20 hours ago, Captain Flack said:

Comment on moderation removed.

 

Please read the introduction to this section “off the beaten track” below, which explains why this post is allowed only in this sub section.

 

 

 

But it's in the "Covid vaccine and other studies" section...

 

(edit) Nevermind this seems to be a sub section of "off the beaten track". 

2 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

 

A phrase centuries older than any of us is appropriate here.... the proof is in the pudding.

1 hour ago, JayClay said:

 

But it's in the "Covid vaccine and other studies" section...

 

(edit) Nevermind this seems to be a sub section of "off the beaten track". 

Please also note the introduction in this sub section.

 

https://aseannow.com/topic/1373828-reader-notice-content-accuracycredibility-is-not-moderated-here/

 

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For your information, AseanNow also has a separate COVID-19 Coronavirus News subforum under the Health and Medicine section of the forum where posted content IS moderated for the accuracy of the information presented and the credibility of sources, consistent with the forum's normal rules.

 

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9 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

 

Denial.

 

McCullough nails it in the below clip. He's talking about doctors, but I think it applies to the broader public too.

 

 

What do you think the percentages would be for…..?

 

1.  People who regret not taking the clot shot.

 

2.  People who regret taking it, but aren’t saying anything because they don’t want to draw any attention to how they treated the unvaxxed during the scamdemic.

 

 

3 hours ago, impulse said:

   

Sorry.  I'm a little more jaded. 

 

Big Pharma (and insurance companies) are responsible for a huge chunk of advertising dollars and funding the vast majority of "the science", and donating $billions to politicians.

 

I trust neither the MSM, nor the studies when Pharma has such a powerful sway over what studies get funded, which get published, and which get squelched.  Don't get me started about politicians...

 

It’s amazing how jab fanatics will back absolutely anything and everything pharma.

 

• Pfizer's latest twelve months advertising expense is 36.511 billion
• Pfizer's advertising expense for fiscal years ending December 2020 to 2024 averaged 27.187 billion.

https://finbox.com/OM:PFE/explorer/am/

 

nope….no influence there 😅

 

 

This is the catastrophic result of a successful brainwashing.

 

The definition of brainwashing is to make someone adopt radically different beliefs by using systemic and often forcible pressure.  Then repeatedly telling them it is true while preventing other information from reaching them.

 

The Holy Bible details how these brainwashings play out and how to successfully counteract the religion of poison and the catastrophic beliefs they peddle.

 

A common theme throughout the Holy Bible is that the degree to which the poisonous beliefs and brainwashings flows grows and grows and grows.  Each generation gets worse and worse and worse.  So applying that to this scenario, each generation of  "vaccine"  will get more and more and more dangerous, deadly and poisonous, until it is stopped.

 

Some of the most intriguing chapters of the Holy Bible detail how the criminals were rooted out and eradicated.  If past history plays out in the future, it will keep getting worse and worse and worse.  The Holy Bible has been envaluable in identifying what is happening and why.  These vermin have many years of practice perfecting their poison.  And the best part is how health and vitality really functions.

 

 

1 hour ago, Airalee said:

It’s amazing how jab fanatics will back absolutely anything and everything pharma.

 

• Pfizer's latest twelve months advertising expense is 36.511 billion
• Pfizer's advertising expense for fiscal years ending December 2020 to 2024 averaged 27.187 billion.

https://finbox.com/OM:PFE/explorer/am/

 

nope….no influence there 😅

 

 

 

Maimed or killed .........by pfizer

On 9/23/2025 at 11:33 AM, Red Phoenix said:

 

Several reports are reporting on prof Murakami's findings.  

Here a screenshot of some of them: 

When you cant' argue the message, shoot the messenger.  

 

I don't Mr Covd is ever going to see or believe the truth, even if it hits the MSM.  He'll start saying that's fake news news.

 

That they died 90-120 days of the shot credibility to the cause, though probably just a coincidence, repeated 600k times 

3 hours ago, Airalee said:

What do you think the percentages would be for…..?

 

1.  People who regret not taking the clot shot.

 

2.  People who regret taking it, but aren’t saying anything because they don’t want to draw any attention to how they treated the unvaxxed during the scamdemic.

 

 

 

Number 1 definitely 0.

4 hours ago, Airalee said:

What do you think the percentages would be for…..?

1.  People who regret not taking the clot shot.

2.  People who regret taking it, but aren’t saying anything because they don’t want to draw any attention to how they treated the unvaxxed during the scamdemic.

 

Question 1 > I know nobody that regretted NOT taking the poison-shots.  On the contrary, those that refused to roll up their sleeve often mention it as one of the best decisions they ever took.  

There were at the start of the roll-out of course some propaganda-clips of actors hospitalized with COVID  and a voice-over of 'see what happens when you don't take the shots'.  

So that actual percentage should be close to ZERO. 

Question 2 > We are looking here at NOT the whole population that took the shots, but only those that are now ashamed of how they treated the unvaxxed and deliberately keep silent now about the issue.  I estimate that's approx 20 % of the vaxxed. 

From the remainder, the large majority have already forgotten about COVID (that is until they start having health issues and are linking them to the shots).  And there is a small but very vocal minority that are in denial (or on Pharma's payroll), and consider the jabs as the best thing since sliced bread, and are still treating the unvaxxed as 'dangerous' lunatics.     

3 hours ago, rumak said:

 

Maimed or killed .........by pfizer

But not if it happened within the first two weeks, right?  Because weren’t people considered unvaccinated for the first two weeks after the injection?

 

And when was it that they stopped including vaccination status in the statistics when it came to “Covid 19” hospitalizations and deaths?  
 

Odd that they’d do that.  🤔

 

Surely that data must be out there…. and just needs some good statisticians (or actuaries) to plow through it.   Really nerdy ones.

8 minutes ago, Airalee said:

But not if it happened within the first two weeks, right?  Because weren’t people considered unvaccinated for the first two weeks after the injection?

 

And when was it that they stopped including vaccination status in the statistics when it came to “Covid 19” hospitalizations and deaths?  
 

Odd that they’d do that.  🤔

 

Surely that data must be out there…. and just needs some good statisticians (or actuaries) to plow through it.   Really nerdy ones.

 

link failed .......

3 minutes ago, Airalee said:

But not if it happened within the first two weeks, right?  Because weren’t people considered unvaccinated for the first two weeks after the injection?

And when was it that they stopped including vaccination status in the statistics when it came to “Covid 19” hospitalizations and deaths?  
Odd that they’d do that.  🤔

Surely that data must be out there…. and just needs some good statisticians (or actuaries) to plow through it.   Really nerdy ones.

 

Yes, those data are there.  One of the main people that provided insights in how the data were manipulated and what the REAL figures look like is Professor Norman Fenton (Queen Mary University of London) — he co-hosts a Substack called “Where are the numbers?” with Martin Neil, which critiques how stats and data were used during COVID.  

9 minutes ago, rumak said:

 

link failed .......

This should give a clue :

 

VAERS COVID Vaccine Adverse Event Reports” default data reflects all VAERS data including "nondomestic" reports. VAERS HHS data underreported by 10x – 100x (phpstack-630326-2751601…).

Summary

• 38,773 COVID Vaccine Reported Deaths  / 49,840 Total Reported Deaths

• 221,257 Total COVID Vaccine Reported Hospitalizations / 316,440 Total Reported Hospitalizations

• 1,666,646 COVID Vaccine Adverse Event Reports / 2,682,925 REPORTS OF VACCINE ADVERSE EVENTS IN VAERS

Details

1,666,646 Reports COVID Vaccine Adverse Event Reports Through August 29, 2025

• 38,773 Deaths

• 221,257 Hospitalizations

• 156,907 Urgent Care

• 248,414 Doctor Office Visits

• 10,976 Anaphylaxis

• 17,941 Bell's Palsy

• 5,194 Miscarriages

• 22,362 Heart Attacks

• 29,012 Myocarditis/Pericarditis

• 73,866 Permanently Disabled

• 9,434 Thrombocytopenia/Low Platelet

• 41,255 Life Threatening

• 47,439 Severe Allergic Reaction

• 16,404 Shingles

•  

This sums it up..... till NOW,  that is .    

11 minutes ago, rumak said:

This should give a clue :

VAERS COVID Vaccine Adverse Event Reports” default data reflects all VAERS data including "nondomestic" reports. VAERS HHS data underreported by 10x – 100x (phpstack-630326-2751601…).

 

 

And summarized it here: 

 

4 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

And summarized it here: 

 

What are you going to dig up tomorrow, a corpse..........🤣

On 9/23/2025 at 5:15 AM, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Wow... you've really outdone yourself this time.... Normally, your posted sources are just low-quality, bottom tier anti-vax misinformation peddlers... But this time, you've managed to hit absolute rock bottom with Slay News... Because of course, garbage sources like that are the only ones that would report on the false, nonsense  claims being reported by nonsense anti-vaxers in Japan.Congratulations!

 

The lowest of the low!

 

"

• Overall, we rate Slay News Far-Right Biased and Questionable based on the promotion of conspiracy theories, pseudoscience, right-wing propaganda, poor sourcing, lack of transparency, failed fact checks, and blatant plagiarism.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/slay-news-bias-and-credibility/

 

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Then as to the absurd false claims being made:

 

Inadequate analysis of Japan data used to spread false claim about COVID-19 vaccine mortality

2025-08-06

 

"Multiple published studies have shown that COVID-19 vaccination isn’t associated with a higher risk of mortality.

...

 

"the data was presented by Yasufumi Murakami, a professor emeritus at Tokyo University of Science. Murakami is also a member of the International Medical Alliance, formerly the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance, a group that spread misinformation about COVID-19 treatments and vaccines"

 

"It’s also worth noting the Japanese database itself cautions that the data doesn’t indicate the cause of death or allow one to establish a connection between death and the vaccine." [emphasis added]

 

https://science.feedback.org/review/inadequate-analysis-japan-data-false-covid-vaccine-mortality/

 

 

 

The guy is obviously completely off his trolley.

 

He deserves nothing but a smirk and turning away from by anyone who takes notice of what he posts.

 

He needs a concerned family to persuade him to get counselling.

 

 

 

 

5 minutes ago, Enoon said:

The guy is obviously completely off his trolley.

 

Who are you referring to ?

4 minutes ago, johng said:

Who are you referring to ?

Folk who take any notice of the OP.........

39 minutes ago, rumak said:

VAERS COVID Vaccine Adverse Event Reports” default data reflects all VAERS data including "nondomestic" reports. VAERS HHS data underreported by 10x – 100x (phpstack-630326-2751601…).

Summary

• 38,773 COVID Vaccine Reported Deaths  / 49,840 Total Reported Deaths

• 221,257 Total COVID Vaccine Reported Hospitalizations / 316,440 Total Reported Hospitalizations

• 1,666,646 COVID Vaccine Adverse Event Reports / 2,682,925 REPORTS OF VACCINE ADVERSE EVENTS IN VAERS

Details

1,666,646 Reports COVID Vaccine Adverse Event Reports Through August 29, 2025

• 38,773 Deaths

• 221,257 Hospitalizations

• 156,907 Urgent Care

• 248,414 Doctor Office Visits

• 10,976 Anaphylaxis

• 17,941 Bell's Palsy

• 5,194 Miscarriages

• 22,362 Heart Attacks

• 29,012 Myocarditis/Pericarditis

• 73,866 Permanently Disabled

• 9,434 Thrombocytopenia/Low Platelet

• 41,255 Life Threatening

• 47,439 Severe Allergic Reaction

• 16,404 Shingles

•  

 

And of course, all that above means NOTHING because as the U.S. government's VAERS website explains, it allows ANYONE to report ANYTHING with absolutely NO PROOF or confirmation by anyone that what got reported really was due to a vaccination.

 

A few years back, one researcher type guy reported to VAERS -- as an illustrative prank -- that the vaccine he had received had turned him into the Incredible Hulk, and that report was dutifully recorded and processed in the VAERS reporting system.

 

Reported Vaccine Side Effect, Incredible Hulk, 1

 

"VAERS has even received a report from an individual claiming a vaccine had turned him into the Incredible Hulk. Of course, this report was not a legitimate account of a vaccine side effect rather to prove a point that anything can be reported to VAERS. It serves as a reminder of the importance of critical analysis when interpreting data from open self-reporting systems."

 

 

https://www.globalvaccinedatanetwork.org/news/VAERS_misuse_The_zombie_practice_that_keeps_coming_back

 

Sadly, it's just an ongoing parade of disingenuous anti-vaxers who constantly are misusing and misrepresenting what VAERS is and is not.  What it's NOT is any kind of confirmation that any reported case or cases were in fact really related to a vaccination instead of anything else.

 

 

 

17 minutes ago, Enoon said:

The guy is obviously completely off his trolley.

 

11 minutes ago, johng said:

Who are you referring to ?

"VAERS is not designed to detect if a vaccine caused an adverse event, but it can identify unusual or unexpected patterns of reporting that might indicate possible safety problems requiring a closer look. [emphasis added]

...

For licensed COVID-19 vaccines (Moderna and Pfizer-BioNTech in people ages 12 years and older), healthcare providers are strongly encouraged to report to VAERS:

Any adverse event that occurs after the administration of a vaccine licensed in the United States, whether or not it is clear that a vaccine caused the adverse event [emphasis added]
...

One of the main limitations of VAERS data is that it cannot determine if the vaccine caused the reported adverse event. This limitation has caused confusion in the publicly available data from VAERS WONDER, specifically regarding the number of reported deaths. There have been instances where people have misinterpreted reports of deaths following vaccination as deaths caused by the vaccines; that is not accurate. VAERS accepts all reports of adverse health events following vaccinations without judging whether the vaccine caused the adverse health event. Some reports to VAERS represent true vaccine reactions and others are coincidental adverse health events and not related to vaccination. Overall, a causal relationship cannot be established using information from VAERS report alone." [emphasis added]

 

https://vaers.hhs.gov/faq.html

 

BTW, it's the same basic issue with the Japanese statistics reported in this thread -- yes, there were reports of deaths, but nothing in the reported data that in any way established the deaths were caused by people having been vaccinated.

 

 

On 9/23/2025 at 11:44 AM, Captain Flack said:

Comment on moderation removed.

 

Please read the introduction to this section “off the beaten track” below, which explains why this post is allowed only in this sub section.

 

 

 

 

I know the mods have their policy but allow me to offer a different perspective.

 

In the right column of the webpage, some posts have tags like "Thailand News" "Report"

 

A constant stream of posts like the OP, without a tag, that appears in the right column can be mistaken for news, which it isn't.

 

May I suggest AN tags similar posts with something like "Alternative Posts" or "Alternative Opinion" so AN doesn't give a wrong impression. 

 

 

 

 

21 minutes ago, bg53 said:

May I suggest AN tags similar posts with something like "Alternative Posts" or "Alternative Opinion" so AN doesn't give a wrong impression. 

 

such a laughable post ...... oh, sorry..... according to you i must say "in my alternative opinion"  to everything that YOU would say is the FACTS .

 

Well,  Facts change over time ....... and whether you know it, or believe it,  sometimes you are not the one who is proven correct .   Most sensible people who are not on a forum to have constant debates, realize that others are expressing their views (with sources ) just as they are.    Where does the "wrong impression"  come in ?    Weird .

2 minutes ago, rumak said:

according to you i must say "in my alternative opinion"  to everything that YOU would say is the FACTS

 

 

Not what I said at all.

 

My suggestion relates to posts under "Off the beaten track"

1 minute ago, bg53 said:

 

 

Not what I said at all.

 

ok...... can you explain what you mean ?     

7 minutes ago, bg53 said:

 

 

Not what I said at all.

 

My suggestion relates to posts under "Off the beaten track"

 

captain Flack already addressed that .     everyone reading and posting here understand that there is great leeway as to topics and opinions and sources .  

Being civil to each other is really what is most important,  and required,  though not always adhered to .

 

so....... what don't you understand ?

 

2 minutes ago, rumak said:

what don't you understand ?

 

Thank you for your condescension.

 

My comment relates to headline summaries in the right column that drive traffic here, because it appears to be the news.

5 minutes ago, rumak said:

 

captain Flack already addressed that .     everyone reading and posting here understand that there is great leeway as to topics and opinions and sources .  

Being civil to each other is really what is most important,  and required,  though not always adhered to .

 

so....... what don't you understand ?

 

This section is just a free-for-all for haters to fling poo at each other.

3 minutes ago, bg53 said:

 

Thank you for your condescension.

 

My comment relates to headline summaries in the right column that drive traffic here, because it appears to be the news.

excuse me for some more condescension ,  since you seem pretty strange .   What don't you get ?   

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