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So you take the girl out of the bar. Now what?

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1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

 

I have nothing against children. I have two. I love my two daughters and am happy they were born. I quite like having children.

 

What I don't like is the effect children have on women. Have you seen what happens to the looks of a woman after she has children? And it goes way beyond looks. The mother will substitute the children for the husband in terms of affection and importance, as a husband you will always take a distant second place behind a woman's children. 

 

And children have the effect of making women harsh, bossy, self-centred, short tempered and much else besides.

 

So whilst I love children dearly, and very much enjoy having my beautiful children, the effect they had on the mother was overwhelmingly negative and detrimental.  It's the older, harsh, short tempered and self-centred older woman I don't like. Children, I love very much.

 

Oh, I think your comment speaks for itself, but still you didn’t answer my question ! 🙋 

 

or questions, do you expect your new gf to not have kids, even she is able to have because you do not want a gf/wife who has kids, and will change you as nr 1 in her life? 

 

I never wanted kids, and have managed a life without kids, and I hit the needle in the haystack when I met a woman who claimed she could not have kids, and very much because of that we continued to keep in contact and today married. But I would never Deny a future gf kids, if she did not have any from before. That is pur egoistic 

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12 minutes ago, Hummin said:

 

Oh, I think your comment speaks for itself, but still you didn’t answer my question ! 🙋 

 

or questions, do you expect your new gf to not have kids, even she is able to have because you do not want a gf/wife who has kids, and will change you as nr 1 in her life? 

 

I never wanted kids, and have managed a life without kids, and I hit the needle in the haystack when I met a woman who claimed she could not have kids, and very much because of that we continued to keep in contact and today married. But I would never Deny a future gf kids, if she did not have any from before. That is pur egoistic 

 

Sometimes I wonder if I speak English or if people try to misunderstand me on purpose.

 

I clearly said I have no issue with kids and like having kids. If a girl came along and she was loyal, trustworthy, fun to be with, an asset for my life, and wanted children I would be happy to have children, albeit, I would be very apprehensive of what it would mean in terms of chaning her looks, her character and of course our relationship.

 

Again, I love children and would have no issue to have children.

17 minutes ago, jvs said:

You are in great shape and not overweight?

 

I'm in good shape and muscular, but putting my rapidly wrinkling, sun-damaged skin next to my babe's perfect, velvet, unblemished skin can be a bit embarrassing. It makes me more aware of my age. You can build the muscles and lose the fat, but there's not much you can do about the skin.

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On 9/30/2025 at 5:49 PM, JakeC said:

@save the frogs In real life, it's not just black and white. I had a young Thai girl 'stalk' me. Gave up bar life to work in a restaurant as she knew that I would not accept a bar girl. Didn't give her any money. She worked to regain her self respect and now runs a farm and other businesses upcountry, not ever to return to those old ways.

 

 

I nearly pi55ed myself at that one 😄

22 minutes ago, Hummin said:

 

Oh, I think your comment speaks for itself, but still you didn’t answer my question ! 🙋 

 

or questions, do you expect your new gf to not have kids, even she is able to have because you do not want a gf/wife who has kids, and will change you as nr 1 in her life? 

 

I never wanted kids, and have managed a life without kids, and I hit the needle in the haystack when I met a woman who claimed she could not have kids, and very much because of that we continued to keep in contact and today married. But I would never Deny a future gf kids, if she did not have any from before. That is pur egoistic 

I hit the needle in a haystack, too, regarding kids. Originally, I was looking around for women in their early 40s who had kids of adult age already, until I found a 33-year-old who doesn't want them. It must be in the family, as her younger sister doesn't want any either. When you date women with young children, you're almost invisible other than providing support. As Cameroni mentioned above, you're a distant 2nd or 3rd place, depending on how many she has.

@hotandsticky You should get that problem with incontinence looked at.

 

I tell the truth. Once she left, didn't ever go back. We first met when she was seventeen. I know her story.

1 minute ago, JakeC said:

@hotandsticky You should get that problem with incontinence looked at.

 

I tell the truth. Once she left, didn't ever go back. We first met when she was seventeen. I know her story.

I have seen it to. Could be easier to find a decent man working at any other place then a bar,.but seen any possibility possible, so, I wouldn't comdem any approach or place. Most decent girls I have met in Thailand was working in bars or as a freelance, and most of them I was in touch with, or "friends" have married solid and moved on

59 minutes ago, jvs said:

You are in great shape and not overweight?

 

 

I have unusually good genes, one might say I was blessed in this regard. I have the face, I still have all my hair, no diabetes, no heart issues, I cycle one hour every day, I do weight training every day, I take NMN, Resveratrol, Zinc, Omega 3, almost no wrinkles. 

 

Still, at 54, it wouild be churlish to pretend I have the competitive athleticism of my teen or twen years, it is a struggle to maintain the 15% bodyfat, even with carb cycling and protein cycling, not gonna lie.

 

But I'm scheduled for full blood tests to monitor testosterone and other levels next month and will give you a fuller update then.

On 9/29/2025 at 1:04 PM, BritManToo said:

Even worse, when she was breast feeding, she used to take baby with her to high school.

They used to pass him around the class in the lessons. During her finals, the teacher looked after him in the exam room.

Then when she had stopped breast feeding and started university, I used to take him into town with me on the scooter. We'd go around the bars, and the bar girls would snatch him off me the moment I entered, and fight each other to hold and cuddle him, he's probably squeezed more Thai girls tits than I have.

 

@emptypockets

   Here , openly stating he got a schoolgirl pregnant .

Completely different rection to the Rochdale grooming gangs behaving similarly 

51 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

@emptypockets

   Here , openly stating he got a schoolgirl pregnant .

Completely different rection to the Rochdale grooming gangs behaving similarly 

No @Britman is not. Somebody got her pregnant but I don't think it was Britman. Could be wrong.

33 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

No @Britman is not. Somebody got her pregnant but I don't think it was Britman. Could be wrong.

 

 Yes, you are wrong about the latter 

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

 Yes, you are wrong about the latter 

You are accusing Britman of underage/paedophelia sexual relations?

Be interesting to see his response or the response from the moderators.

Quite a claim you are making.

6 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

You are accusing Britman of underage/paedophelia sexual relations?

Be interesting to see his response or the response from the moderators.

Quite a claim you are making.

 

   He has stated it himself , I am just repeating  what he has posted .

His sons mother was still in school when she gave birth 

He posted that himself 

2 hours ago, JakeC said:

@hotandsticky You should get that problem with incontinence looked at.

 

I tell the truth. Once she left, didn't ever go back. We first met when she was seventeen. I know her story.

 

 

No need to be defensive.

 

 

But only a fool would believe that Thais were not fully capable of returning to any former trade. I have seen it many times over the last 20 years  (before incontinence set in).

36 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   He has stated it himself , I am just repeating  what he has posted .

His sons mother was still in school when she gave birth 

He posted that himself 

Ok

You can take the virloutofthe bar but you cannot take the bar out of the girl in 20 years I’ve known many who did but within months the bar won !

To much idle time will allow problems.  Most girls have dreams. Owning a business, etc.  Maybe she needs to finish schooling.  Work with her, find out what she wants. And ensure she works towards that. 

 

I had a girl, good artist, wanted to do tattoos.  School and license was less then I paid her a month, but I didn't push.  Instead, flush with cash. She spent it on Parties and a guy.  So she lost it all. No more allowance 😅🤣🤣.

 

Sad thing is, I really enjoyed her company. You almost need to be the "father figure". Require they improve, track their progress.  In time they will learn to care about themselves, just don't expect it right away. Also dont expect honesty, they have a very different perspective.

On 9/29/2025 at 9:51 AM, save the frogs said:

If you get hitched up with a bar girl, you can ask her if she wants to get training in sth, like hairdresser.

Then you can support her in that. Training is not even that expensive. 

But some may be very ambitious ... ie want to open a restaurant. Then it's risky. 

 

I would say that many want to open a business, be it a restaurant or something similar. If you invest money in that business on her behalf the chances of you ever getting that money back are remote. More likely the business will not only fail, but will go heavily into debt.

 

5 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

I would say that many want to open a business, be it a restaurant or something similar. If you invest money in that business on her behalf the chances of you ever getting that money back are remote. More likely the business will not only fail, but will go heavily into debt.

 

 

 

Business acumen rarely matches the enthusiasm at the outset.

 

Understanding profitability (or otherwise) is not a common skill.

HIV clinic Hep tests 

Wash her in mild Dettol and take her to meet your kids 

On 9/29/2025 at 7:26 AM, MalcolmB said:

It is very common in Thailand for customers to fall for the Ladies of the Night much like in the Hollywood hit Pretty Woman.

 

So then jealousy kicks in and you don’t want her out there plying her trade every night being soiled by hundreds of men.

 

So you pay her monthly not to work in the sex industry.

 

So now what? Should she get a normal job? Or can she just have a life of pleasure living it up?

It is only common with a small male demographic that are looking for that type of girl. You get what you pay for.

On 9/29/2025 at 7:26 AM, MalcolmB said:

It is very common in Thailand for customers to fall for the Ladies of the Night much like in the Hollywood hit Pretty Woman.

 

So then jealousy kicks in and you don’t want her out there plying her trade every night being soiled by hundreds of men.

 

So you pay her monthly not to work in the sex industry.

 

So now what? Should she get a normal job? Or can she just have a life of pleasure living it up?

What happens?  Even more time to look at Facebook, social media ads, shopping on the internet, scheming to work you over. I know, she if different.  You can save and change her.  You might want to check the success rate, probably below 5%.  

 

You need to understand these women understand they are like a product with a Best Before Date.  They want to earn as much money as possible so they can have land, a house, car and easy life in the future.

On 9/29/2025 at 7:44 AM, save the frogs said:

 

Most women work nowadays.

 

This setup is going back in time. 

 

Only problem is if the man gets abusive, then the woman has to extricate herself and go back to the bars.

 

Or in one case, the bar girl said her farang bf/husband was going on a downward spiral with drugs, so back in the bar she went. 

 

 

 

Most women work nowadays......I Agree My Mrs Does but doesn't get Paid.....Much !!

Simple - don't start with a bar girl. Start with a normally living girlfriend  (or boyfriend).

@hotandsticky Is your every post going to be nonsense? Thais? I wrote about one girl and her story, which you attempted to mock. 

 

@Cameroni How much time are you spending with the two children whom you purport to love?

On 9/29/2025 at 7:26 AM, MalcolmB said:

It is very common in Thailand for customers to fall for the Ladies of the Night much like in the Hollywood hit Pretty Woman.

 

So then jealousy kicks in and you don’t want her out there plying her trade every night being soiled by hundreds of men.

 

So you pay her monthly not to work in the sex industry.

 

So now what? Should she get a normal job? Or can she just have a life of pleasure living it up?

You have no need to worry about this, your ladyboy friends will be with you till death or penniless 

On 9/29/2025 at 9:42 AM, fredwiggy said:

Taking her out of that environment and putting her into a stable one, with money to use instead of having to do the horizontal mambo for it with countless (possibly) men who have all done a number on her psyche, might last years or weeks, depending on how long she's been in the trade and how it affected her thinking.

 

You will always be another john to her, even though you took her out, and that thinking might have her actually miss that lifestyle, which will be a shambles with your relationship with her now. If she has been abused by men, which many have, she will take that fear into your relationship and it will cause anxiety, with her looking at you also as a potential abuser. Any sign of control will exacerbate that thinking. 

 

Some have done it for just a short time, and are dying to get out and be taken care of, just like any other women, but you'll only know in time. If she never had a legitimate job before, can she adapt to that or even want to work? If she just wants to stay home, expect her to be bored in time and even if she doesn't return to the bars, she might return to other men behind your back, which will also ruin what you have.

 

You can have troubles with women who have never worked in bars, so there's no guarantee either way, but the odds of that relationship being normal are far less than with a woman that hasn't been with so many men, especially for pay.  If you're capable of finding a woman who hasn't been working in bars, there's a much better likelihood of it lasting longer without those things on her, and your mind.

very good, READ this!!

6 hours ago, hotandsticky said:

Business acumen rarely matches the enthusiasm at the outset.

Understanding profitability (or otherwise) is not a common skill.

If you can't afford to support a woman with your own money, they probably best to only take one short-time. It doesn't matter what her past employment way, they're all much the same.

33 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

If you can't afford to support a woman with your own money, they probably best to only take one short-time. It doesn't matter what her past employment way, they're all much the same.

 

 

I do both......it creates a sense of balance.

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