8 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

That was because he was clearly senile😅

I think we warned you about that. Did you listen? Er....nope

It's a distortion about what Hurr wrote.

 

And here's what he wrote about Trump: 🤣🤣🤣

 

"Most notably, after being given multiple chances to return classified 
documents and avoid prosecution, Mr. Trump allegedly did the opposite. According 
to the indictment, he not only refused to return the documents for many months, but 
he also obstructed justice by enlisting others to destroy evidence and then to lie about 
it. In contrast, Mr. Biden turned in classified documents to the National Archives and 
the Department of Justice, consented to the search of multiple locations including his 
homes, sat for a voluntary interview. and in other ways cooperated with the 
investigation."

1 hour ago, illisdean said:

You sure SC Hur didn't report Biden shared classified documents with his ghostwriter? Have you read the report, maybe even the first few pages. Probably not. 

 

Maybe take a look at p. 3 of the Executive Summary (see attached below)

 

• Report of the Special Counsel on the Investigation Into Unauthorized Removal, Retention, and Disclosure of Classified Documents Discovered at Locations Including the Penn Biden Center and the Delaware Private Residence of President Joseph R. Biden, Jr.

 

SC Hur even said *"there’s ‘evidence’ Biden kept classified documents for $8 million book deal"   

 

https://www.justice.gov/storage/report-from-special-counsel-robert-k-hur-february-2024.pdf

* https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/2916089/robert-hur-says-evidence-biden-kept-classified-documents-book-deal/

I Don't think Kash should  Stop with Bolton.

Just now, riclag said:

I Don't think Kash should  Stop with Bolton.

That's right, buddy. He should go to the very smelly top!

 

 

50 minutes ago, candide said:

No. According to the Hurr report, Biden read parts of his note book (a kind of diary), which included mixed personal and professional information (some of it classified), in order to provide context. No classified information was published in the book (which was about Beau).

 

Coming back to the origin of the discussion, contrary to a popular MAGA lie, no one gave money to Biden to get classified information! Biden did not sell classified information or documents! 🤣🤣🤣

 

Concerning your conclusion, according to the PRA, Presidents are not allowed to keep Presidential records after the end of their mandate, they must all give them to NARA. 

 

The big difference between the two cases, according  to Hurr, is that Trump has shown clear intent, by refusing to give them back, by hiding them, and by lying about it! 🤣

 

From the Hurr report:

Most notably, after being given multiple chances to return classified 
documents and avoid prosecution, Mr. Trump allegedly did the opposite. According 
to the indictment, he not only refused to return the documents for many months, but 
he also obstructed justice by enlisting others to destroy evidence and then to lie about 
it. In contrast, Mr. Biden turned in classified documents to the National Archives and 
the Department of Justice, consented to the search of multiple locations including his 
homes, sat for a voluntary interview. and in other ways cooperated with the 
investigation.

 

That's one opinion, and a likely result of tuning into CNN and MSDNC.

 

If, like me, you listen to Turley, Jarrett, the Dersch and other conservative legal experts, you may form a different opinion.

 

BTW, Biden's interaction with the ghostwriter was in 2017 and he finally came clean about having the documents about 5 years later.  So don't give us that crap about how he cooperated.  He only came clean when he knew he was outed because of the Trump case.

1 minute ago, impulse said:

 

That's one opinion, and a likely result of tuning into CNN and MSDNC.

 

If, like me, you listen to Turley, Jarrett, the Dersch and other conservative legal experts, you may form a different opinion.

 

BTW, Biden's interaction with the ghostwriter was in 2017 and he finally came clean about having the documents about 5 years later.  So don't give us that crap about how he cooperated.  He only came clean when he knew he was outed because of the Trump case.

 The Biden's were as dirty as they come, Hence the Biden crime family. As VP & Senator,Biden  abused the power of his office.  

https://www.axios.com/2024/05/25/biden-family-justice-department-hunter-trials

33 minutes ago, riclag said:

I Don't think Kash should  Stop with Bolton.

He won’t and hasn’t. There’s much more to come. These investigations will take some time and each investigation will be done thoroughly and exhaustively even on those who may have or believe they have immunity so civil suits can be pursued.

32 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

That's one opinion, and a likely result of tuning into CNN and MSDNC.

 

If, like me, you listen to Turley, Jarrett, the Dersch and other conservative legal experts, you may form a different opinion.

 

BTW, Biden's interaction with the ghostwriter was in 2017 and he finally came clean about having the documents about 5 years later.  So don't give us that crap about how he cooperated.  He only came clean when he knew he was outed because of the Trump case.

Irrelevant deflection about MSM. 🤣

 

I only cited the Hurr report, not CNN, and it was very clear about the main difference between the two cases. In one case, it was not possible to establish intent beyond reasonnable doubt (Biden), in Trump 's case there was ample evidence to prove intent.

 

From the Hurr report linked before: "However, for the reasons summarized below, we conclude that the evidence does not establish Mr. Biden's guilt beyond a reasonable doubt." 🙂

31 minutes ago, candide said:

Irrelevant deflection about MSM. 🤣

 

I only cited the Hurr report, not CNN, and it was very clear about the main difference between the two cases. In one case, it was not possible to establish intent beyond reasonnable doubt (Biden), in Trump 's case there was ample evidence to prove intent.

 

From the Hurr report linked before: "However, for the reasons summarized below, we conclude that the evidence does not establish Mr. Biden's guilt beyond a reasonable doubt." 🙂

 

You lose a lot of your credibility when you claim to be quoting a guy's report and you repeatedly mis spell his name.  If you had the report open in front of you, you'd see that it's the Hur Report.

 

Trump's intent was to challenge his right to have those documents, as just about every modern President has.  He made no secret of it.  Biden's intent was to hide the fact that he had documents which he was never entitled to have, since he wasn't the President or former President in 2017.

22 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

You lose a lot of your credibility when you claim to be quoting a guy's report and you repeatedly mis spell his name.  If you had the report open in front of you, you'd see that it's the Hur Report.

 

Trump's intent was to challenge his right to have those documents, as just about every modern President has.  He made no secret of it.  Biden's intent was to hide the fact that he had documents which he was never entitled to have, since he wasn't the President or former President in 2017.

More irrelevant blah blah!

 

And I prove you wrong again! 🤣🤣🤣

 

From the Hur report:

"Both when he served as vice president and when the Afghanistan documents were found in Mr. Biden's Delaware garage in 2022, his possession of them in his Delaware home was not a 
basis for prosecution because as vice president and president, he had authority to 
keep classified documents in his home."

 

Concerning Trump, the PRA clearly states that no President is allowed to keep Presidential records after the end of his mandate! And there was clear evidence of intent in his case!

 

“The PRA requires that all records created by Presidents (and Vice-Presidents) be turned over to the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) at the end of their administrations.”  

https://www.archives.gov/press/press-releases/2023/nr23-016

 

Also from the Hur report:

"Most notably, after being given multiple chances to return classified 
documents and avoid prosecution, Mr. Trump allegedly did the opposite. According 
to the indictment, he not only refused to return the documents for many months, but 
he also obstructed justice by enlisting others to destroy evidence and then to lie about 
it. In contrast, Mr. Biden turned in classified documents to the National Archives and 
the Department of Justice, consented to the search of multiple locations including his 
homes, sat for a voluntary interview. and in other ways cooperated with the 
investigation." 🙂

 

1 hour ago, 0james0 said:

He won’t and hasn’t. There’s much more to come. These investigations will take some time and each investigation will be done thoroughly and exhaustively even on those who may have or believe they have immunity so civil suits can be pursued.

This DOJ doesn't have the luxury of the Dems MSM propaganda  machine ,that spins  narratives, like a baby spins a toy top. VP Biden acted in the same manner as Bolton except far worse.

That being said,Hur painted him as  untouchable while claiming his culpability . Given the fact that he is battling Cancer ,the forces of spin will crucify any reasonable prosecutor for going after their darling.

 

Tread lightly.

They'll drop the charges and go after Michael Bolton instead. 

 

Release the files ! 

On 10/17/2025 at 7:25 AM, Yagoda said:

Lucky for Bolton, the Dems arent in Power, otherwise he would be taken out and shot like the Dems say should be done to all Republicans.

Well, you've topped yourself in ridiculousness. From 2021 to 2025 the Democrats were in control of the Executive Branch of government which includes the Justice Dept and the Armed Forcds. Exactly how many Republicans did they execute?

John Bolton has not really denied that he did what he is accused of. 

 

 

16 hours ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Well, you've topped yourself in ridiculousness. From 2021 to 2025 the Democrats were in control of the Executive Branch of government which includes the Justice Dept and the Armed Forcds. Exactly how many Republicans did they execute?

Your Democrat party dude. 

 

Ready to disavow members of your party?

On 10/19/2025 at 12:49 PM, Yagoda said:

Your Democrat party dude. 

 

Ready to disavow members of your party?

Name for me the Democrats who have taken out their opponents and shot them. Only that will I be able to disavow them.

On 10/18/2025 at 3:11 PM, impulse said:

 

You lose a lot of your credibility when you claim to be quoting a guy's report and you repeatedly mis spell his name.  If you had the report open in front of you, you'd see that it's the Hur Report.

 

 

Just what a political debate needs: a schoolmarm.

On 10/18/2025 at 3:11 PM, impulse said:

 

Trump's intent was to challenge his right to have those documents, as just about every modern President has.  He made no secret of it.  Biden's intent was to hide the fact that he had documents which he was never entitled to have, since he wasn't the President or former President in 2017.

If Trump's intent was to challlenge the law, why did he try to hide classified documents? Why did his lawyers claim that he had already turned over all the documents?

1 hour ago, Alan Zweibel said:

If Trump's intent was to challlenge the law, why did he try to hide classified documents? Why did his lawyers claim that he had already turned over all the documents?

He also insinuated that the FBI planted classified documents 8n MAL, among other ridiculous claims! 🤣

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/judge-spares-trump-back-claims-planted-evidence-mar-lago-rcna50108

10 hours ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Name for me the Democrats who have taken out their opponents and shot them. Only that will I be able to disavow them.

So threatening to kill their children is OK.

 

Research the Dem AG candidate in Va...and his enabler Spagenburger.

 

Until then......

 

 

On 10/18/2025 at 2:35 PM, 0james0 said:

He won’t and hasn’t. There’s much more to come. These investigations will take some time and each investigation will be done thoroughly and exhaustively even on those who may have or believe they have immunity so civil suits can be pursued.

Up Next: Looks like former CIA boss Brennan is about to get some good news, except it's all bad. He's going to be "scrutinized" for his treasonous involvement in Russia-Gate. Oops

 

The House Judiciary Committee on Tuesday referred former CIA Director John Brennan to the DOJt for criminal prosecution for allegedly lying to Congress about the use of the debunked Steele Dossier in the Russia-gate probe.

 

 

https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/chairman-jordan-refers-john-brennan-doj-criminal-prosecution

 

2 hours ago, darbie-foos said:

Up Next: Looks like former CIA boss Brennan is about to get some good news, except it's all bad. He's going to be "scrutinized" for his treasonous involvement in Russia-Gate. Oops

 

The House Judiciary Committee on Tuesday referred former CIA Director John Brennan to the DOJt for criminal prosecution for allegedly lying to Congress about the use of the debunked Steele Dossier in the Russia-gate probe.

 

 

https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/chairman-jordan-refers-john-brennan-doj-criminal-prosecution

 

What a joke! 🤣

The dossier was not cited as supporting evidence for the conclusion that Russia interfered in the 2016 election to help Donald Trump.

 

That Russia interfered in the election to help Trump has been confirmed by each and every investigation made after the preliminary assessment, and in particular the GOP-led Senate Committee’s investigation. You know, in the report signed by Rubio! 🤣

23 minutes ago, candide said:

The dossier was not cited as supporting evidence for the conclusion that Russia interfered in the 2016 election to help Donald Trump.

Lying to congress is a crime in America. The primary charge referenced in the referral is for making false statements to Congress, a felony under federal law (18 U.S.C. § 1001) good for 5 years behind the pipes AND don't forget perjury (18 U.S.C. § 1621) also 5 years imprisonment

 

 This applies even if the statements weren't under oath (unlike traditional perjury). Jordan explicitly invoked this statute in his letter, arguing Brennan's testimony undermined congressional oversight. In other words Brennan is cooked and will likely start singing a tune and ratting out other deep state rats.

 

You likely flunked high school and never made it to law school, obviously.

 

 

22 minutes ago, darbie-foos said:

Lying to congress is a crime in America. The primary charge referenced in the referral is for making false statements to Congress, a felony under federal law (18 U.S.C. § 1001) good for 5 years behind the pipes AND don't forget perjury (18 U.S.C. § 1621) also 5 years imprisonment

 

 This applies even if the statements weren't under oath (unlike traditional perjury). Jordan explicitly invoked this statute in his letter, arguing Brennan's testimony undermined congressional oversight. In other words Brennan is cooked and will likely start singing a tune and ratting out other deep state rats.

 

You likely flunked high school and never made it to law school, obviously.

 

 

 

But the Steele report wasn't used as evidence to demonstrate that Russia interfered in the election in order to help Trump, in the assessment report! 🙂

 

But don't let facts get in the way of a good MAGA story! 🤣

From the criminal referral letter Jordan to Bondi:

 

We write to refer significant evidence that former Director of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) John Brennan knowingly made false statements during his transcribed interview before the Committee on the Judiciary on May 11, 2023.

 

The 3 instances of false statements referenced all occurred during House testimony which means a grand jury on this matter would likely come from a Washington DC Grand Jury.

 

Unless the DoJ can figure out a way to move it elsewhere.

 

BTW it was former New York Chief Judge Sol Wachtler in 1985 who coined the phrase that a prosecutor can "indict a ham sandwich".

 

In Washington DC, the fed prosecutors were not able to indict a salami hero.