16 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

Your a realist the only problem with that is ....

If things go south relationship wise .....they can kick you out !

 

I asked my late mother to sign the house over to me before she died ....she went to see a bloodsucking lawyer who advised her NOT to 

 

He actually told me to wait outside the room until he spoke to her !

And you do question that from a professional lawyer? 😄 

 

He works on behalf of your mother not you 😉 

 

Most who lived with their family 20 years kind of have a feeling how rooted their marriage or relationship is. Most do not experience being screwed over by their family. 

 

I dear to say as many being screwed over by their family, there is equally same amount of men who abuse their position with their thai families. Not necessarily the same who being screwed over, but often vulnerable people choosing the abusive ones for some reasons, and they do it not only one time but keep being stuck to the same pattern throughout life

35 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

Sadly ,you can do all the exercise you want and it may ward off certain diseases , i have no idea what the common death for 80-85 but I believe cancer doesn't discriminate whether you exercise or not 

 

True...look at all the ultra fit athletes....not immune to the diseases us common irks contract. 

1 hour ago, georgegeorgia said:

Do you wish your organs to be donated ?

Do you need something?

I can name you in my last will.

11 hours ago, Hummin said:

But I hope I will hit the gym like Arnold do

his steroids may be catching up with him though.

he's had several heart surgeries. 

 

2 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

True...look at all the ultra fit athletes....not immune to the diseases us common irks contract. 

Bodybuilders especially 

1 minute ago, Will B Good said:

 

True...look at all the ultra fit athletes....not immune to the diseases us common irks contract. 

And should it be an excuse? For not trying to improve life quality by living a Tod healthier?

 

Never stop surprising me how many believes living to the fullest means drinking, smoking, partying and doing unhealthy things, it could also mean living healthy, reading books, educate your self on interesting themes and be productive and not just being retired under an umbrella at the beach drinking beer for breakfast 

9 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

his steroids may be catching up with him though.

he's had several heart surgeries. 

 

I saw the former champion of bodybuilding King of leg Squats Tom Platz recently, he was 75yo and looked over 80 !

 

Maybe it was the steroids but does exercise make you live past 85 , not that I can see !

1 hour ago, georgegeorgia said:

Your thinking may become different if your sick k at this age

eg you probably will refuse  chemo treatment more than likely 

I’d refuse it in 50s. Same as photoguy, if it’s my time, so be it. Had already done more up to my 30s than certainly most folks ‘back home’ will have done in their lifetime. When the time comes, accept it wholly and try not to go with angst or regret. 

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

And should it be an excuse? For not trying to improve life quality by living a Tod healthier?

 

Never stop surprising me how many believes living to the fullest means drinking, smoking, partying and doing unhealthy things, it could also mean living healthy, reading books, educate your self on interesting themes and be productive and not just being retired under an umbrella at the beach drinking beer for breakfast 

Would it matter though if  your over 80?

 

Will you be doing a bar chart or graph for us on this topic ?  I think age of an member and nationality vs when think think they will kick off. 

Just now, Hummin said:

And should it be an excuse? For not trying to improve life quality by living a Tod healthier?

 

Never stop surprising me how many believes living to the fullest means drinking, smoking, partying and doing unhealthy things, it could also mean living healthy, reading books, educate your self on interesting themes and be productive and not just being retired under an umbrella at the beach drinking beer for breakfast 

 

Absolutely not....no excuse......not sure who Tod is....but whatever.

 

No....I agree.............Everything in moderation....including moderation.

10 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

his steroids may be catching up with him though.

he's had several heart surgeries. 

 

He is 77 and many at his age, even in their 50ies have experienced the same without touching steroids at all. 

 

AI-oversikt

 

Arnold Schwarzenegger's heart problems stem from a congenital condition, a bicuspid aortic valve, which is not a lifestyle-related issue and has required multiple surgeries.His heart issues are not a result of natural aging but a congenital defect that has necessitated medical interventions like valve replacement and the recent installation of a pacemaker for an irregular heartbeat

 

edit note 78 years old 

3 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

Bodybuilders especially 

Bodybuilders aren't getting any more diseases than the regular public. They shorten their lives through steroid use, which puts a strain on the heart

4 minutes ago, daveAustin said:

I’d refuse it in 50s. Same as photoguy, if it’s my time, so be it. Had already done more up to my 30s than certainly most folks ‘back home’ will have done in their lifetime. When the time comes, accept it wholly and try not to go with angst or regret. 

My dad ended up refusing anymore chemo at 80, he ended up looking like a prisoner of war

i believed that killed him with the  pneumonia not the cancer !

His death was actually pneumonia not lung cancer caused by the chemo 

 

You have to know when to get it and when to not 

 

 

5 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

Your a realist the only problem with that is ....

If things go south relationship wise .....they can kick you out !

 

I asked my late mother to sign the house over to me before she died ....she went to see a bloodsucking lawyer who advised her NOT to 

 

He actually told me to wait outside the room until he spoke to her !

She's 50 years old, busy with her 100 acres of rice fields, sells fried chicken at the local market and sells skin creams on the side, we get along great, my Thai/British son is unlikely to disown his own father. My spiritual studies of 40 years have convinced me that we are not in control, we don't 'have' a life, life lives us, we are the flow of life playing out in the field of conscious awareness...the source of all things. My body is a manifested avatar of the cosmos, all the heavy elements of my body were produced by stars that exploded billions of years ago, I breath in oxygen and exhale carbon dioxide, the food that nourishes my body came from minerals and sunlight, my body didn't come into the world, it came out of it. In the opinion of eastern spiritual traditions, 'I am that', I am both the universe observing itself and the universe is within me, how trivial then are earthly possessions.

5 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

Would it matter though if  your over 80?

 

People who try to live life to its fullest the unhealthy way, might become a mess and a problem for their close relatives. So I would say it matter to me personally for not being the best of myself I can be. Especially if I do not have an excuse. 

 

Living in Pattaya or visiting Pattaya regulary you have seen it all I guess. 

4 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

I saw the former champion of bodybuilding squats Tom Platz recently, he was 75yo and looked over 80 !

Maybe it was the steroids but does exercise make you live past 85 , not that I can see 

Exercise and a healthy diet helps lower the chances of a few diseases. It doesn't have to be extreme but movement. j. The reason the Blue Zones live longer is diet and exercise.

5 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Bodybuilders aren't getting any more diseases than the regular public. They shorten their lives through steroid use, which puts a strain on the heart

You got healthy bodybuilders and unhealthy bodybuilders, so? Same as everywhere else

 

Extreme sports do takes a toll on people one way or another. Arnold is 78 years old, and part of the early generation bodybuilders who started to experiment with enhancing drugs to build more muscles. 

Please tell me ,you guys OVER 80 do you eat healthy 

 

Are you doing anything different health wise diet etc OR is it a case of more enjoying life and drinking and smoking partying dancing rooting smoking etc 

 

I mean when your over 80 does it matter if you drink smoke and have the Wine Wonen & Song ???

Wouldn't that be the best way to "go out "

 

3 minutes ago, Hummin said:

You got healthy bodybuilders and unhealthy bodybuilders, so? Same as everywhere else

 

Extreme sports do takes a toll on people one way or another. Arnold is 78 years old, and part of the early generation bodybuilders who started to experiment with enhancing drugs to build more muscles. 

Some who use steroids are lucky, and some aren't. The sooner you get off them the better, especially if you aren't competing.All of the top bodybuilders did and still do them. You can't compete otherwise.Arnold's heart was hurt more by the steroid use.

4 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

Please tell me ,you guys OVER 80 do you eat healthy 

 

Are you doing anything different health wise diet etc OR is it a case of more enjoying life and drinking and smoking partying dancing rooting 

 

I mean when your over 80 does it matter if you drink smoke and have the Wine Wonen & Song 

Some people live their lifestyle because it's what they do. You don't start abusing yourself just because you made 80. Even those who believe in God and an afterlife still want to enjoy what they've done all their years, and many still have a bucket list.

11 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Some who use steroids are lucky, and some aren't. The sooner you get off them the better, especially if you aren't competing.All of the top bodybuilders did and still do them. You can't compete otherwise.Arnold's heart was hurt more by the steroid use.

He might had been in worse shape and condition if he did not exercise and living healthy. So living an normal life with beer and partying like normal people who exercise little or no exercise could be the same for his condition. As said normal men in their 50ies start dying of hearth condition or do have surgeries for not only extreme lifestyle problems. Even football player who exercise hard without enhancing drugs, dies on the field at their prime. Extreme exercises do take a toll on peoples hearth drugs or not 

 

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/arnold-schwarzenegger-surgery-pacemaker#Bradycardia-and-abnormal-heart-rhythms

 

 

10 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Some people live their lifestyle because it's what they do. You don't start abusing yourself just because you made 80. Even those who believe in God and an afterlife still want to enjoy what they've done all their years, and many still have a bucket list.

It is a lifestyle thing and it comes down to discipline and education as well motivation. 

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

It is a lifestyle thing and it comes down to discipline and education as well motivation. 

Interesting to see statistics yesterday I was reading the new HIV infection age group in Australia to see several new infections were over the age of 75 and one 80

Does that tell me people in the last few years of their life are nowadays taking more risks 

And I'm talking about THIS generation of old people in that age group 

5 minutes ago, Hummin said:

He might had been in worse shape and condition if he did not exercise and living healthy. So living an normal life with beer and partying like normal people who exercise little or no exercise could be the same for his condition. As said normal men in their 50ies start dying of hearth condition or do have surgeries for not only extreme lifestyle problems. Even football player who exercise hard without enhancing drugs, dies on the field at their prime. Extreme exercises do take a toll on peoples hearth drugs or not 

 

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/arnold-schwarzenegger-surgery-pacemaker#Bradycardia-and-abnormal-heart-rhythms

 

 

Yes, he was competitive, so he took to the steroids even though he trained very hard. If he never competed or did drugs, he likely wouldn't have had so many heart problems, but then he wouldn't be the governor of California either, or an action star. 

3 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

Interesting to see statistics yesterday I was reading the new HIV infection age group in Australia to see several new infections were over the age of 75 and one 80

Does that tell me people in the last few years of their life are nowadays taking more risks 

And I'm talking about THIS generation of old people in that age group 

The older they are, the more likely, if they aren't married or in a normal relationship,  might turn to hookers, who are the major STD carriers 

4 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

9 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

I was reading the new HIV infection age group

The older they are, the more likely, if they aren't married or in a normal relationship,  might turn to hookers, who are the major STD carriers

Have you got the stat's or a link on your comment?

 

I read it was school age students, not hookers 

 

1 hour ago, georgegeorgia said:

Sadly ,you can do all the exercise you want and it may ward off certain diseases , i have no idea what the common death for 80-85 but I believe cancer doesn't discriminate whether you exercise or not 

From your perspective on life I would not expect you to be around too much longer. Add to that you are a hypochondriac I would say its pretty sure. 

7 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

Interesting to see statistics yesterday I was reading the new HIV infection age group in Australia to see several new infections were over the age of 75 and one 80

Does that tell me people in the last few years of their life are nowadays taking more risks 

And I'm talking about THIS generation of old people in that age group 

 

Living the life to its fullest 

 

https://fb.watch/CNKLXmR1Oa/?fs=e

 

 

 

8 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Have you got the stat's or a link on your comment?

 

I read it was school age students, not hookers 

 

It's actually the gay, bisexual and drug users who spread HIV the most, and adolescents are the highest spreaders of STI's, but hookers are right up there also   GG mentioned 75-80 getting HIV and that's why I mentioned hookers, as they're not likely getting it from regular girls. .....https://www.infectioncontroltoday.com/view/infection-prevalence-prevention-among-sex-workers-information-health-care-workers