Very sad ending for such a wonderful man.  RIP Barry.   

As far as where the accident actually occurred, it is not conclusive to say it was near the Rung Ruang Company which is the Jomtien airport bus office.

It raises questions actually.

If crossing very near there, almost everyone would cross at the light because it's very close.

So was he trying to cross at the light?

Maybe so. There was talk of a median strip. There is a media strip at the light crossing area too.

Or did the press in conventional convenience and/or lost in translation merely mention the nearest intersection which would include a very large area where very few pedestrians would cross at the light?

For example, if crossing further up the hill to get to Marcos you could accurately say it was near that intersection as there is none closer, but almost everyone would not walk to the light to cross at that location. 

So we still don't really know. 

Why does it matter?

Well it might as far as any culpability of the driver (speeding was probably enough to suggest guilt though) and also as Barry Kenyon was such an important local figure, I think the ACTUAL details if ever determined about his tragic accident will be of wide interest to the public.

Another tribute:

 

6 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Apparently not in this case.  See the update posted before your comment.

 

My statement was in response to the generalized comment Another victim of Plod's laissez-faire policy on the roads.   

A driver is responsible for his own driving. Blaming the police for collisions is a deflection of the responsibility of the driver.

5 hours ago, Jingthing said:

as Barry Kenyon was such an important local figure, I think the ACTUAL details if ever determined about his tragic accident will be of wide interest to the public.

I agree. 

Very often we only hear of an initial incident, but never get any follow-up news. However, the OP of this topic @Georgealbert seems to have many informants within the police/fire service here. I'm hoping he will keep us informed.

All comments and absolute nonsense

 

A very decent man was awarded an MBE for his services in helping Brits find the right way out of deep trouble.

 

And clowns want to talk about traffic lights.

 

Goodbye, Barry, I will miss you, and I will ALWAYS RESPECT AND REMEMBER YOU

18 hours ago, mikebell said:

I blamed those who are responsible for safety on the roads; the invisible, ineffectual Pattaya police who permit speeding; red-light running and most other offences by never being seen on the roads.

Absolutely 

14 hours ago, BatteringRam said:

 

What should happen to him? Not drunk and the lights were turning green, according to witnesses. What do you want to happen to the rider?

I would like to think video evidence is reviewed to see who was at fault and his licence verified, along with the motorcycle insurance. If there is a possible charge of causing death by dangerous driving it should be made. 

21 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

 

The responsibility rests with the motorbike driver.  It is a shifting of  responsibility to claim otherwise.

So you are saying traffic police have no jobs?  Every law breaker is responsible for his own safety?  No need for speed cameras?  No need to enforce helmet wearing? 

The invisible Pattaya police do little enough now; do not encourage them further.

R.I.P.

Government really need to look at these incidents as Manslaughter regardless of race and admitting guilt doesn't mean your sentence is cut in half and then reduced to be sent home.

If these bikes are rented need to trace back to owners if it was done legally. 

7 hours ago, jacko45k said:

I would like to think video evidence is reviewed to see who was at fault and his licence verified, along with the motorcycle insurance. If there is a possible charge of causing death by dangerous driving it should be made. 

 

...and if it shows Barry jaywalking whilst the lights are turning green, are you okay with the motorcycle rider suing his estate?

There is nothing to indicate that the rider was at fault, thus far. 

A good guy..

Hope they get the guy who caused the accident.

6 minutes ago, p414 said:

A good guy..

Hope they get the guy who caused the accident.

 

Yeah he is a foreigner from Bangladesh and was sober.

 

Reports read that Bazza was on the road.... jaywalking perhaps?

I corresponded with Barry twice over the years regarding visa issues - he was most helpful, courteous and efficient.

I also met him once at a party given by a mutual friend where he also turned out to be a "damn good sort".

 

I only mention that to show appropriate respect, but I suppose it's possible that his eyesight and/or reactions had deteriorated due to his age.

Doesn't make the incident any less sad of course, but just a thought.

R.I.P.

Government really need to look at these incidents as Manslaughter regardless of race and admitting guilt doesn't mean your sentence is cut in half and then reduced to be sent home.

If these bikes are rented need to trace back to owners if it was done legally. 

What I do know although the rules don't specify Pedestrian always have the right of way and there are plenty of crosswalk in Thailand without lights when I approach one I always slowdown and proceed with caution. As a pedestrian crosswalk or not I cross walking horizontal never turn my back with the intent to clothes line any MF to save myself. I make it a point to stop always for pedestrian whether they have the right because I have one advantage over them KILOS of steel on the human flesh basically a weapon the reason I slow down. I don't run a person down take off or even think I have the right to sue!

16 hours ago, BatteringRam said:

 

...and if it shows Barry jaywalking whilst the lights are turning green, are you okay with the motorcycle rider suing his estate?

There is nothing to indicate that the rider was at fault, thus far. 

Don't be obtuse, most of the reports I have read use the term  'speeding motorbike', which most certainly suggests fault. The OP here says it too!

No such thing as 'turning green', they are either green or not' and there should be no speeding on approach to lights that were not green, nor speeding when there is a pedestrian in the road..

On 10/21/2025 at 10:01 PM, Patong2021 said:

 

My statement was in response to the generalized comment Another victim of Plod's laissez-faire policy on the roads.   

A driver is responsible for his own driving. Blaming the police for collisions is a deflection of the responsibility of the driver.

 

Yes but the Police do nothing to stop riders using Thappraya Road as a race track which can only result in fatalities like this.

14 hours ago, thailand49 said:

R.I.P.

Government really need to look at these incidents as Manslaughter regardless of race and admitting guilt doesn't mean your sentence is cut in half and then reduced to be sent home.

 

 

Manslaughter...... bwahahahahahahahahahaha.

 

Why was Bazza on the road ?

33 minutes ago, henryford1958 said:

 

Yes but the Police do nothing to stop riders using Thappraya Road as a race track which can only result in fatalities like this.

One can include the running of red lights which is commonplace and police do not address. 

4 minutes ago, henryford1958 said:

 

Yes but the Police do nothing to stop riders using Thappraya Road as a race track which can only result in fatalities like this.

 

yes.

And Jomtien second road is now the F1 track for all.

You need to take great care on that road. 

The dangerous behavior there,  is a bottomless pit of stupidity.

 

 

1 hour ago, quake said:

 

yes.

And Jomtien second road is now the F1 track for all.

You need to take great care on that road. 

The dangerous behavior there,  is a bottomless pit of stupidity.

 

 

Bottomless pit of stupidity 

Beautiful description 

7 hours ago, jacko45k said:

Don't be obtuse, most of the reports I have read use the term  'speeding motorbike', which most certainly suggests fault. The OP here says it too!

No such thing as 'turning green', they are either green or not' and there should be no speeding on approach to lights that were not green, nor speeding when there is a pedestrian in the road..

 

Speeding motorbike could be 40 to 60km per hour. The policeman stated that the lights were turning green. So someone approaching might not need to feel the need to slow down if the light were turning as they were approaching. Then suddenly someone appears from behind/in front of a vehicle as they are crossing the road. Accidents can happen. 

1 hour ago, BatteringRam said:

 

Speeding motorbike could be 40 to 60km per hour. The policeman stated that the lights were turning green. So someone approaching might not need to feel the need to slow down if the light were turning as they were approaching. Then suddenly someone appears from behind/in front of a vehicle as they are crossing the road. Accidents can happen. 

The witnesses  also said 'high speed', so much so the rider lost control.

Usually at that junction there would be a queue of those waiting for the green light. I have nearly been turned to mush myself crossing between stationary traffic, but the vehicle involved then was also speeding, down the wrong side of the road. I think my earlier post said  something about camera evidence needs to be evaluated, and I wished there to be some prosecution if the rider at fault. 

17 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

The witnesses  also said 'high speed', so much so the rider lost control.

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There's also the possibility that the rider was inexperienced and on a rented  bike such that a more experienced rider could have controlled the situation.

 

Does not excuse it of course, but I think most of us know that there are very few (if any) checks done on renters of motor cycles in Thailand. If it was a "big bike" then as someone else has suggested, the Dunning-Kruger effect may offer an explanation.

49 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

The witnesses  also said 'high speed', so much so the rider lost control.

Usually at that junction there would be a queue of those waiting for the green light. I have nearly been turned to mush myself crossing between stationary traffic, but the vehicle involved then was also speeding, down the wrong side of the road. I think my earlier post said  something about camera evidence needs to be evaluated, and I wished there to be some prosecution if the rider at fault. 

 

Would you lose control if you hit someone whilst travelling at 40kmph? Especially someone who might have not been crossing at a traffic light, totally unexpected.

Seems that you are choosing to blame the rider whilst ignoring other salient points.

Sad news indeed.  I had some good conversations with Barry through the years.

 

The Pattaya Mail has posted details of the funeral service.

Schedule of Funeral Rites

23 October 15.00 hrs: Bathing Rites

24-28 October 19.00 hrs: Prayers

29 October 15.00 hrs: Cremation Ceremony

 

Wat Tham Samakkhi Temple South Pattaya
https://maps.app.goo.gl/uZT4HM6hcWbVE5Jx6?g_st=al

On 10/21/2025 at 2:44 PM, Jingthing said:

I'm guessing those two weren't the destination.

Why ? Pan Pan was one of Barry 's favourites. 

14 hours ago, BatteringRam said:

 

Would you lose control if you hit someone whilst travelling at 40kmph? Especially someone who might have not been crossing at a traffic light, totally unexpected.

Seems that you are choosing to blame the rider whilst ignoring other salient points.

Stop wasting my time, go troll elsewhere. 

On 10/21/2025 at 6:26 AM, jacko45k said:

There is no reference to a Thai driver in that post, mainly a complaint of lack of policing, which is true. Thrappaya is not  road I would like to cross at night... along with a few others.

Barry was a character in Pattaya, well known and respected, very very clever. A great loss to the Expat community. 

Not hard to find more details online 

On October 18, 2025, at around 7 pm, in front of Rung Ruang Company near the Pattaya intersection, a motorcycle ridden by Mr Rana Mama, 38, a Bangladeshi national, collided with Barry Kenyon, a British pedestrian.