5 minutes ago, marin said:

and look what you got!!!🤣🤣🤣

Satisfying isn't it??🤣

Well, I could sit in a mansion in my home country, in the best residence of the village, and have dinner as my highlight, with the fabulous sex a memory of the past, her exquisite joy and beauty a thing of the past.

Some guys think that's acceptable.

I don't. I knew there was better out there for me. And the last 40 days proved that beyond a doubt.

Now, is it coupled with some pain? Sure. But life is all about experiences. The dour existence is not for me.

2 minutes ago, FrankieGoesToHolly said:

An example...I remember walking down a street, seeing a Thai girl whom I knew. I didn't actually physically touch her, not even once. She was with her husband and child. She told me, on the spot, that she loved me. He was too drunk to notice. This is not the only time this has happened.

Hahahahahahahaha....

Priceless. Thanks. I needed a good laugh.

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

Well, I could sit in a mansion in my home country, in the best residence of the village, and have dinner as my highlight, with the fabulous sex a memory of the past, her exquisite joy and beauty a thing of the past.

Some guys think that's acceptable.

I don't. I knew there was better out there for me. And the last 40 days proved that beyond a doubt.

Now, is it coupled with some pain? Sure. But life is all about experiences. The dour existence is not for me.

No argument with that, but your girls are P4P fodder. Enjoy.

3 minutes ago, marin said:

You are a very gullible man, especially for being a lawyer.

Not at all. What gives you that idea?

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Well, I could sit in a mansion in my home country, in the best residence of the village,

Stop trying to come off as wealthy. I would bet that my wife and both of my daughters who are not yet 28 all make more money than you based on what you have posted in the last 2 days. They have the class to not brag about wealth, but to just enjoy what it brings.

1 minute ago, FrankieGoesToHolly said:

but your girls are P4P fodder.

No, far from it. You're confusing an allowance with a payment for a one-off sex act. Not the same thing.

1 minute ago, marin said:

Stop trying to come off as wealthy

I'm not. Just stating facts. I owned the best mansion in the village. Treated like Lord of the manor.

2 minutes ago, marin said:

I would bet that my wife and both of my daughters who are not yet 28 all make more money than you

Maybe, that of course would make them very wealthy. Lol.

2 minutes ago, marin said:

They have the class to not post about wealth, but to just enjoy what it brings.

I'm sure they're just as classy as you are.

42 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Indeed I did check her phone. In detail. I saw all her Whatsapp, Line and Messenger convos, her photos. There was nothing of concern at all. Whenever guys proposed money to her, she never carried on the conversation, these were older convos of course. So there was that as well. Her phone checked out, nothing of concern at all, TF and Tinder still deleted.

You must realize all conversations can be deleted, especially if she's allowing you access to her phone. People can keep copies of numbers to re-install them into a phone within seconds. Many also have more than one phone. My own ex wife, married again, has at least 5 other men she talks with and meets while her husband, unaware, lives in Germany and sends her money. When you have a daughter who really understands what her mother is, secrets are revealed.

What many don't realize about Thailand is that lying is accepted, which means it means little to them, that in the west lying is frowned upon because trust is a necessity. Here, that doesn't mean as much, as real friends here, especially within women, are very hard to find. Gossiping here is a national sport, more so it seems than in the west. "Friends" talk about friends behind their backs and it's always the latest news. They care little about each other besides what they can get. That also goes for many women here, as they have their own local men as teachers, as well as their own fathers.

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

You must realize all conversations can be deleted,

No, you don't say? I would never have thought of that. Listen, don't tell me the blindingly obvious. I saw her convos she did not delete a lot of them, there were plenty. Of course she could have deleted convos, and she did delete those with her ex. I checked twice. What was deleted first was still deleted the second time around.

You're definitely right that lying and cheating is massively prevalent in Thailand, my experience as well.

4 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

No, far from it. You're confusing an allowance with a payment for a one-off sex act. Not the same thing.

No. You are confusing it with that. I know what prostitution is. I also know that I was given an allowance by the woman who I lived with as a teenager. But I didn't ever lie nor need to lie to her. I told her that I could not ever accept a prostitute as my girlfriend. Her answer to me was who is going to pay for the Mayfair apartment if she didn't work. I was perhaps fifteen or sixteen at the time, so it wasn't going to be me.

In fact, my girlfriend would stay over in the second bedroom and she would give me money to spend on my girlfriend. She asked me what it would take to make me love her. She bought me everything that I needed and even things that I didn't want. I don't think I ever actually asked her for any money.

I left when I obtained my own apartment at seventeen. She asked if she could visit and I said no, as I had a girlfriend with whom I could see a future. She still decked out my new apartment.

So, I know. You are just creating a fantasy world for your ego. But 'your girl' is for sale. You have to decide as to how you are going to deal with that fact.

1 minute ago, FrankieGoesToHolly said:

No. You are confusing it with that. I know what prostitution is. I also know that I was given an allowance by the woman who I lived with as a teenager. But I didn't ever lie nor need to lie to her. I told her that I could not ever accept a prostitute as my girlfriend. Her answer to me was who is going to pay for the Mayfair apartment if she didn't work. I was perhaps fifteen or sixteen at the time, so it wasn't going to be me.

In fact, my girlfriend would stay over in the second bedroom and she would give me money to spend on my girlfriend. She asked me what it would take to make me love her. She bought me everything that I needed and even things that I didn't want. I don't think I ever actually asked her for any money.

I left when I obtained my own apartment at seventeen. She asked if she could visit and I said no, as I had a girlfriend with whom I could see a future. She still decked out my new apartment.

So, I know. You are just creating a fantasy world for your ego. But 'your girl' is for sale. You have to decide as to how you are going to deal with that fact.

Sounds like a fascinating life. I've always wanted to be a kept man, financed by a prostitute. Must have been awesome.

But anyway, this does not change the fact that Phuket Girl got an allowance, not a payment for a one-off sex act. You say you know what prostitution is. I'm not sure you do. Phuket girl is not "for sale". If she's for sale, go buy her now. Can you? No, you can't.

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

Sounds like a fascinating life. I've always wanted to be a kept man, financed by a prostitute. Must have been awesome.

But anyway, this does not change the fact that Phuket Girl got an allowance, not a payment for a one-off sex act. You say you know what prostitution is. I'm not sure you do. Phuket girl is not "for sale". If she's for sale, go buy her now. Can you? No, you can't.

Give me her details and I will demonstrate it for you 😊

Just now, FrankieGoesToHolly said:

Give me her details and I will demonstrate it for you 😊

I don't even have her details! I've no idea what her real location is!

If she's in Chonburi City, or where.

And if I can't call her, you have zero chance, trust me.

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

1 minute ago, FrankieGoesToHolly said:

Give me her details and I will demonstrate it for you 😊

I don't even have her details! I've no idea what her real location is!

If she's in Chonburi City, or where.

And if I can't call her, you have zero chance, trust me

This is what you are in love with and what to start a future with? Why? You have nothing.

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Sounds like a fascinating life. I've always wanted to be a kept man, financed by a prostitute. Must have been awesome.

But anyway, this does not change the fact that Phuket Girl got an allowance, not a payment for a one-off sex act. You say you know what prostitution is. I'm not sure you do. Phuket girl is not "for sale". If she's for sale, go buy her now. Can you? No, you can't.

It was an experience. I am grateful for it. She didn't hurt me or get me into trouble and she really seemed to like me...but that is because of who I am. I saw who I considered as better looking guys turned away.

She bought me a car, jewellery, clothes...wouldn't even let me go out to get food. Everything was provided.

It was a strange situation for me, I wanted to be loyal to her, even though I had a girlfriend. But she would invite other girls over. Their mantra "we just want to give you pleasure". I would refuse, as I felt that I should stay loyal to just her. She would do the same for me. Would leave parties early, after just thirty minutes, to come back to me, as I refused to go with her.

It was a relationship of sorts, but not sustainable. I needed to be my own person. You cannot buy love. They might cling to you out of necessity.

17 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

I don't even have her details! I've no idea what her real location is!

If she's in Chonburi City, or where.

And if I can't call her, you have zero chance, trust me.

Because she is busy with her next client. For at least three weeks.

One of the saddest f threads i ever read.

20 minutes ago, Celsius said:

One of the saddest f threads i ever read.

Not as sad as the breakfast restaurant I'm in now. Non-existent service, ordering over an app in Thai, questionable menu. You should go to Good morning Saraphi and see for yourself. Oh wait! You can't, you're in Canada, right?

Now that's sad.

Just now, Cameroni said:

Not as sad as the breakfast restaurant I'm in now. Non-existent service, ordering over an app in Thai, questionable menu. You should go to Good morning Saraphi and see for yourself. Oh wait! You can't, you're in Canada, right?

Now that's sad.

It is what it is.

Canada.... where I had no life.

This thread.... where I suddenly found one

4 minutes ago, Celsius said:

It is what it is.

Canada.... where I had no life.

This thread.... where I suddenly found one

It really is terrible. I got some strange ham and cheese toastie with an omlette wrapped around it. It looked good, then you realize they slathered it thick with some sweet mayonnaise. No salt of course. Uneatable.

I'm off to get the excellent Sai oua at the trusty pork belly place to put that on L'Opera baguette. See if I can erase this Saraphi experience.

What are you up to there in Canada, Drazen? Shovelling snow? Playing ice hockey? Making gravy for the Poutine?

10 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

It really is terrible. I got some strange ham and cheese toastie with an omlette wrapped around it. It looked good, then you realize they slathered it thick with some sweet mayonnaise. No salt of course. Uneatable.

I'm off to get the excellent Sai oua at the trusty pork belly place to put that on L'Opera baguette. See if I can erase this Saraphi experience.

What are you up to there in Canada, Drazen? Shovelling snow? Playing ice hockey? Making gravy for the Poutine?

Maybe breathing fresh air?

Can't say the same here where life would had been perfect if the air was clean.

10 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Drazen?

Where did you pull this name from? That's not it, but I bet my Serbian dinar you would love my real name.

14 minutes ago, Celsius said:

Where did you pull this name from? That's not it, but I bet my Serbian dinar you would love my real name.

Drazen Petrovic of course, the only famous Yugoslavian I know.

I'm sure I would love the real one.

5 minutes ago, Celsius said:

Where did you pull this name from? That's not it, but I bet my Serbian dinar you would love my real name.

The only Serbo-Croatian I speak is based in love. Rather than just to say "I love you", we would describe exactly what we loved...which was everything.

Draga moja oko, Draga moja brada, Draga moja uho...

P4P proponents likely don't ever get to that stage...

More likely revolving around "How much..?"

1 hour ago, marin said:

This is what you are in love with and what to start a future with? Why? You have nothing.

Some say love it is a river that drowns the tender reed. Some say love it is a razor that leaves your soul to bleed.

I say love it is flower, and her its only seed.

Furthermore, marin, it's the soul afraid of dying, that never learns to live.

Nothing? I have 40 days of ecstasy that most men will not experience in their lifetime. What's more it's much too early to say it's over. It may be. But it may not be. Let's see.

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Nothing? I have 40 days of ecstasy that most men will not experience in their lifetime.

Here is where you are so wrong. You have had 40 days of being like a YoYo. Up, down, up and down again. If that is ecstasy count me out. Keep telling yourself that though. You need self edification to keep yourself going. You practice it on a daily basis. If you enjoy being played keep it up. Oh by the way, where is your girlfriend, and who is she with?

Here is where you are so wrong. You have had 40 days of being like a YoYo. Up, down, up and down again. If that is ecstasy count me out. Keep telling yourself that though. You need self edification to keep yourself going. You practice it on a daily basis. If you enjoy being played keep it up. Oh by the way, where is your girlfriend, and who is she with?

Why she's in Chonburi City with her aunt trying to work hard in a frozen fruit factory. I already told you. Tssssk.

being like a YoYo. Up, down, up and down again

As Lysander told Hermia "The path of true love never runs smooth", marin, you have to take the rough with the smooth. It was true in 1596 and is still true 430 years later.

9 minutes ago, marin said:

Here is where you are so wrong. You have had 40 days of being like a YoYo. Up, down, up and down again. If that is ecstasy count me out. Keep telling yourself that though. You need self edification to keep yourself going. You practice it on a daily basis. If you enjoy being played keep it up. Oh by the way, where is your girlfriend, and who is she with?

That's the point. His normal life is likely quite dull. She brought him stimulation. Excitement. US$1000 for that, for him, was probably worth it.

3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

11 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Why she's in Chonburi City with her aunt trying to work hard in a frozen fruit factory. I already told you. Tssssk.

5 hours ago, Cameroni said:

The one thing that has me thinking, is that she said she'd work for 3 weeks in the fruit factory in Chonburi City before she comes to Chiang Mai. Now she knows I could come down there in that time and try and see her.

And she also said that she could wait for me in Chonburi and we talked about me coming to live with her in Chonburi. So she must have been aware that I would see whether she in fact works in this fruit factory or not.

But obviously now I have severe doubts about much of what she says. Trust has been broken.

4 minutes ago, FrankieGoesToHolly said:

His normal life is likely quite dull.

Well, you were raised in a brothel as a 15 year old, for you everything must be dull now...