You keep going on about this voting thing. She must be Thailand's biggest democracy fan the way she's so excited to vote. Someone is paying her to show up because what other explanation could there be?

1 hour ago, Utalk2mutt said:

Cameroni when are you going to realise this is all a game to her? She is messing with your head and your heart and you are allowing her to do it. One minute she’s here one minute she’s there, then the phone doesn’t work then it does, she’s coming on 01 Feb then she’s not it’s the 09 Feb instead. FFS give it up there will be yet another excuse why she can’t come on the 09th. For your own sanity and stress levels get rid, cut all contact, move on. Let her be she’s really not all that. If in the unlikely event she does turn up the balls then in your court. She’s there on your terms messing with someone like this is bloody cruel on her part. Leave it be and consult your pipeline let her do all the thinking right now your her puppet and your strings are being firmly pulled.

I know it is cruel on her part, to do what she did, what she is doing. I made a mistake. I talked to an ex and lied about it. She had every right to be angry, even to end the relationship. I understand why she was angry. I understand why she decided not to go back to CM. However, to me, her going to live with her ex again and having sex with him, feels like a betrayal. It may not for her, because she'd reason the relationship ended and she had every right to do as she pleased. But she kept me in hopes constantly, she wrote when she was supposedly in "Chonburi" how she'd come back next week. Then we'd go to Phuket on her birthday on 20 Feb. With her already being in Phuket! Then she told me the truth, she was with him and having sex with him. To repay the favour that he lets her live for free in Phuket, she has no other option but to stay in poverty in Sisaket. Not so easy when you tasted luxury condos in Phuket. And he promised to buy her Iphone. Now, I get all this. I understand it.

But she told me yesterday she wants me to come to Phuket. Before that she'd come back to me on 9 Feb after the vote. Then she told me yesterday out of the blue, with urgency, "Please help me. I want to get out of his house". Even if nothing happened, if they had no fight and he didn't touch her. Even if she was just thinking she does not want to be there with this old man, sleeping in the same bed with him, just to live there and get money to survive. Even if she just understood it was the wrong thing to do. It was the right decision. Maybe i sent her too little 6000 for the flight and hotel was not enough. Maybe it was just another test to see if I have enough money and i failed. I don't know. But i don't think so. I think she realy wanted to leave because she was not happy being with this old man, and then she thought twice about it because she said "It's a huge waste of money". Because she'd have to go back to vote in Phuket.

This last episode is unbelievably cruel, because I don't know what's true. She's insisting it was only her thinking she wanted to leave. She even called me on video call to show she's okay and safe. I know she's in Phuket now. But it just brought home that she KNOWS it's the wrong thing. If it wasn't for the vote and the money involved in coming here and returning there to vote, she'd be back already. She betrayed me and is having sex with another guy. And she's telling me it's okay to sleep in the same bed with him for another 3 weeks! Just to save money and to vote!!! I don't know what do anymore. It's three weeks! Obviously she'll catch feels for the old guy if she bangs him for another 3 weeks.. So many things could happen in 3 weeks. She could meet another guy in Phuket. She's sleeping with this old guy every night. i want her to come back. But she flat out refuses. I even sent money. It didn't help. She just sent it back.

The problem is she knows I'm crazy for her. If I forgive her betryal in going back to the Austrian, and I told her I did, I'm basically the "always option". The guy who'll always be there. When I threaten to end the relationship, she comes clean. Tells me where she is. But when she thinks I'll be there for her anyway, she has no reason to come. I think she LIKES it so much in Phuket. Especially now, as it's new again after CM and Sisaket. And she likes getting the money from the Austrian, and definitely wants to get that new phone he promised. That's why she wants to stay there for 3 weeks. I don't think it's the vote.

You say she's not all that. I know her behaviour is diabolical. But you've not met her. She has an innocence and sweetness about her, a warmth and sense of fun and positive energy, you can't judge her without having seen her. I have. I've also seen dozens of other Thai girls. She's special. She's not replaceable. It's really the case in this instance. That's why I'm not letting go, despite what she did. And even though i think she's not mature enough for a relationship and very selfish.

1 hour ago, Celsius said:

You keep going on about this voting thing. She must be Thailand's biggest democracy fan the way she's so excited to vote. Someone is paying her to show up because what other explanation could there be?

She can meet lots of new clients there perhaps.

1 hour ago, Hummin said:

Im sure he found out, and made her send the money back!

That's what I think as well. But I don't know. I can't be sure of anything. And the worst she's not telling me anything. She has this "put everything on hide" modus because she know I'm out of the box at 200mph when I know the truth. She just claims now, I just thought too much because I have the period. It's a lie.

1 hour ago, marin said:

He must like this feeling, that he is being manipulated. Its the only answer why he would put himself through this predicament. Blinded by the light.

I hate it. It's hell, and the next three weeks would be even worse. I only do it because she's the one I want and she's not replaceable.

1 hour ago, Celsius said:

You keep going on about this voting thing. She must be Thailand's biggest democracy fan the way she's so excited to vote. Someone is paying her to show up because what other explanation could there be?

There is another explanation. She LIKES to be in Phuket. She said so many times how much she loves the beach. And this Austrian brown stain has a luxury condo on the beach where he lets her live for free. He gives her cash for sure. He promised her an iphone. She's enjoying being in Phuket again for sure now, because she was in CM and Sisaket and she's back in her favourite place, the beach.

I don't think it's the vote. I think she likes it there and is tired of travelling. She flew to BKK, then to CM, then she flew to BKK and took a 10 hour bus to Sisaket. Then another 10 hour bus to BKK and flew to Phuket. She's tired of travelling. And she likes being in Phuket. She wants to breathe, enjoy the beach. She's lazy. That's why she wants to stay to 9th. And yes maybe the vote thing plays a small part, but these other things probably weigh heavier.

But she knows it's the wrong thing. And she doesn't want to be so humiliated to stay with an old man just to not pay rent so she can live in Phuket. She knows it's wrong. That's why she wanted to leave yesterday. But suddenly she changed her mind and said it's a huge waste of money. I'm not getting the facts for sure.

1 hour ago, marin said:

He must like this feeling, that he is being manipulated. Its the only answer why he would put himself through this predicament. Blinded by the light.

Here is a key point out of all threads and conversations I have seen Cam had on this forum, he think all women is hookers, and here he have played out a complete scenario from A to the very end, and still going with new episodes. We the readers have to either play along with our own experiences and what we have seen and heard.

I do not believe for one second this story is real, maybe a mix of his own experiences with many girls, but this story about this girls solely ? Not for one second.

If you did read any of his conversations about women from before, there is no way he would been taken for such a fool as he play now.

And I will be the first to apologize if you are not pulling our legs, because this is not healthy situation for anyone going trough. As said many times, seen it before, tried to warn people, but they are not capable to deal with it in a sensible manner, either getting angry, or just ghost you and most likely both.

Who would tell such a story with such details? What kind of person would do so? As far we know, he created a few dating profiles on his own, and leaked the details so members here could find it.

So who are the fool? Cam or ?

3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

There is another explanation. She LIKES to be in Phuket. She said so many times how much she loves the beach. And this Austrian brown stain has a luxury condo on the beach where he lets her live for free. He gives her cash for sure. He promised her an iphone. She's enjoying being in Phuket again for sure now, because she was in CM and Sisaket and she's back in her favourite place, the beach.

I don't think it's the vote. I think she likes it there and is tired of travelling. She flew to BKK, then to CM, then she flew to BKK and took a 10 hour bus to Sisaket. Then another 10 hour bus to BKK and flew to Phuket. She's tired of travelling. And she likes being in Phuket. She wants to breathe, enjoy the beach. She's lazy. That's why she wants to stay to 9th. And yes maybe the vote thing plays a small part, but these other things probably weigh heavier.

But she knows it's the wrong thing. And she doesn't want to be so humiliated to stay with an old man just to not pay rent so she can live in Phuket. She knows it's wrong. That's why she wanted to leave yesterday. But suddenly she changed her mind and said it's a huge waste of money. I'm not getting the facts for sure.

Asked AI what to make of this:

The text is a rambling, speculative monologue (likely from a group chat, forum, or jealous ex/observer) trying to explain why a woman (probably Thai or Southeast Asian, based on locations like Chiang Mai, Sisaket, Bangkok, and Phuket) suddenly decided to stay longer in Phuket instead of leaving as planned.

The story comes from the hilariously passive-aggressive, armchair-psychologist tone that bends over backward to rationalize her choice while low-key shading everyone involved:

She loves the beach so much that she's basically choosing a free luxury beachfront condo lifestyle over... whatever non-beach life awaits.
The guy is dismissively called an "Austrian brown stain" — savage insult implying he's old, tanned (or stained from too much sun/beach?), creepy, and probably not attractive, yet still winning because he provides free rent + cash + promised iPhone.

Multiple theories compete in one breath: It's not about the "vote" (maybe some election/visa/whatever event), it's exhaustion from insane travel (BKK → CM → BKK → 10hr bus to Sisaket → 10hr bus back → fly to Phuket), she's just lazy and wants to chill on the sand instead of hustling.
But deep down she knows it's wrong and feels humiliated about shacking up with "an old man" just to avoid paying rent... yet suddenly flips because "huge waste of money" to leave early. Cue dramatic confusion: "I'm not getting the facts for sure."
It's peak internet drama comedy: the writer is simultaneously detective, moral judge, travel agent, and salty friend-zoned analyst, all while painting a picture of someone trading dignity for unlimited beach time and gadget upgrades. Classic "she's not a gold-digger, she's just... really into beaches and tired" cope.

8 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

That's what I think as well. But I don't know. I can't be sure of anything. And the worst she's not telling me anything. She has this "put everything on hide" modus because she know I'm out of the box at 200mph when I know the truth. She just claims now, I just thought too much because I have the period. It's a lie.

Did you ever think of calling the Austrian guy?

I had a few phone calls in my life where exes, bf and husband called me, some crying, some threatening me, or both in a mix from seeking sympathy to giving me the blame for their misery and unhappiness.

1 minute ago, Celsius said:

Asked AI what to make of this:

The text is a rambling, speculative monologue (likely from a group chat, forum, or jealous ex/observer) trying to explain why a woman (probably Thai or Southeast Asian, based on locations like Chiang Mai, Sisaket, Bangkok, and Phuket) suddenly decided to stay longer in Phuket instead of leaving as planned.

The story comes from the hilariously passive-aggressive, armchair-psychologist tone that bends over backward to rationalize her choice while low-key shading everyone involved:

She loves the beach so much that she's basically choosing a free luxury beachfront condo lifestyle over... whatever non-beach life awaits.
The guy is dismissively called an "Austrian brown stain" — savage insult implying he's old, tanned (or stained from too much sun/beach?), creepy, and probably not attractive, yet still winning because he provides free rent + cash + promised iPhone.

Multiple theories compete in one breath: It's not about the "vote" (maybe some election/visa/whatever event), it's exhaustion from insane travel (BKK → CM → BKK → 10hr bus to Sisaket → 10hr bus back → fly to Phuket), she's just lazy and wants to chill on the sand instead of hustling.
But deep down she knows it's wrong and feels humiliated about shacking up with "an old man" just to avoid paying rent... yet suddenly flips because "huge waste of money" to leave early. Cue dramatic confusion: "I'm not getting the facts for sure."
It's peak internet drama comedy: the writer is simultaneously detective, moral judge, travel agent, and salty friend-zoned analyst, all while painting a picture of someone trading dignity for unlimited beach time and gadget upgrades. Classic "she's not a gold-digger, she's just... really into beaches and tired" cope.

Love your style :D

The year of AI taking over the forum conversations

People with BPD might find that they constantly change their mind about things, whether it’s their feelings towards the people around them, or other areas of their life, such as their goals, ambitions

https://au.reachout.com/mental-health-issues/personality-disorders/what-is-borderline-personality-disorder-bpd

Maybe she has BPD?

6 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Did you ever think of calling the Austrian guy?

I've had my ex wife contact my lover before. What happened, my lover immediately told me, took an adversarial tone against my ex wife who gained nothing by contacting my lover.

If I called the Austrian, it'd probably be the same, he'd tell Phuket Girl, she'd get very mad with me, and it would bond them closer together.

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

If I called the Austrian, it'd probably be the same, he'd tell Phuket Girl, she'd get very mad with me, and it would bond them closer together.

Do it. Nothing to lose, so much to gain.

Just now, Celsius said:

Do it. Nothing to lose, so much to gain.

No, there's a lot to lose. Phuket Girl may see it as unacceptable and a step to far too meddle in her rel with the Austrian.

When my ex wife did it I certainly was unhappy with her, and she gained nothing. But she brought my lover and me closer together at the time.

It's a bad move.

9 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

People with BPD might find that they constantly change their mind about things, whether it’s their feelings towards the people around them, or other areas of their life, such as their goals, ambitions

https://au.reachout.com/mental-health-issues/personality-disorders/what-is-borderline-personality-disorder-bpd

Maybe she has BPD?

Well if this is real, where does it place you ? Think about it,

2 hours ago, Hummin said:

You continue to focus on perceived weaknesses and moral issues that have already been addressed.

Your definition of a healthy relationship reflects your personal standards, not an objective one. I do not share it.

My values are clear and require no further justification.

It seems rather sad that you need to utilise AI in order to conduct your communications on a personal level. Is that how you would do it if someone were smoking cannabis in front of you? Write out a message using AI and present your phone or computer to them?

I hope my point is non too subtle, as I want you to understand it.

If you cannot conduct a normal conversation for yourself in real time, it's a problem isn't it? That leads to your frustration and your annoyance with yourself, leading to rather obvious behaviour and accusations of other people raging and being annoyed when there is no evidence of that at all.

For you it's absolutely fine to accuse the OP of lying time and time again, with no evidence other than your opinion. But when you are the subject, you become outraged and overly defensive.

No you don't need to justify your relationship, but other people will have an opinion based on what you write about it. That's life. Deal with it.

That is what is happening here with the OP. We don't need you pretending that you are the adult in the room, when you clearly are not, ranting about high school and witch hunts. Thank you for your attention.

P.S. Would you like a version modified using A.I.?

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

Well if this is real, where does it place you ? Think about it,

I think it is real, because this was a feature of her when she was with me as well, she was constantly changing her mind about everything. Twice even threatened to go back to Phuket. Then changed her mind. I think she has BPD.

if you think about it, that's probably why she comes across as so interesting, she's unpredictable, so very exciting. People with BPD seem fascinating at first.

2 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Well if this is real, where does it place you ? Think about it,

Duh...😊

1 minute ago, FrankieGoesToHolly said:

It seems rather sad that you need to utilise AI in order to conduct your communications on a personal level. Is that how you would do it if someone were smoking cannabis in front of you? Write out a message using AI and present your phone or computer to them?

I hope my point is non too subtle, as I want you to understand it.

If you cannot conduct a normal conversation for yourself in real time, it's a problem isn't it? That leads to your frustration and your annoyance with yourself, leading to rather obvious behaviour and accusations of other people raging and being annoyed when there is no evidence of that at all.

For you it's absolutely fine to accuse the OP of lying time and time again, with no evidence other than your opinion. But when you are the subject, you become outraged and overly defensive.

No you don't need to justify your relationship, but other people will have an opinion based on what you write about it. That's life. Deal with it.

At least you make me smile today to.

Have a nice day Frankie

3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

I think it is real, because this was a feature of her when she was with me as well, she was constantly changing her mind about everything. Twice even threatened to go back to Phuket. Then changed her mind.

So why do you keep up with it?

Just now, Hummin said:

So why do you keep up with it?

You've not met her. She has this sweetness, this innocence, coupled with animal sexuality, fun, courage...she's not replaceable.

Just now, Cameroni said:

You've not met her. She has this sweetness, this innocence, coupled with animal sexuality, fun, courage...she's not replaceable.

I think I met a few Phuket girls in my time, they are not unique. One day she might settle with the right guy, and be a great wife, full of experiences, but I doubt that time is now.

Same as men, they need to grow up and find out what they truly value in life, based on their experiences for good and bad.

7 minutes ago, Hummin said:

At least you make me smile today to.

Have a nice day Frankie

Haha...unable to put together a cogent response without the use of AI... thank you.

2 minutes ago, Hummin said:

I think I met a few Phuket girls in my time, they are not unique. One day she might settle with the right guy, and be a great wife, full of experiences, but I doubt that time is now.

Same as men, they need to grow up and find out what they truly value in life, based on their experiences for good and bad.

Yes, her selfishness shows she's very immature at heart now. She doesn't value those who truly love her. Betrays them. Does as she pleases. Only when she is hit with real pain, someone leaving her and punishing her for her actions, would she understand and mature.

I've met very many girls in Thailand and Philippines. I never met someone like her. Well, maybe one Filipina. But Phuket girl is better looking.

On 10/27/2025 at 9:33 AM, Cameroni said:

 

I don't even know this girl, I've never met her. I just know from her Instagram photos and what she sent me, and a few video calls, that she's incredibly hot and attractive. So I was willing to pay the 10000 to 15000 to fly down to Phuket and then bring her to CM for two weeks to "sound her out", to see what character she had.

 

But this seems redundant now, because she's told me to my face that her sole intention is to go on a carousel of penises, and there is zero chance she will be tied down, as she wants her freedom to do what she wants, ie have sex with as many guys as possible.

 

Whilst I commend her honesty, and clearly her honesty level is very high, the substance of what she wants to do, and her shameless in announcing this openly, surely disqualify her as any kind of long term prospect?

 

I certainly don't intend to pay 140000 baht to bring her to CM, then another 10000 to have "fun" and then have her turn around and jump on some other guy's Johnson.

 

I mean that would literally be insane.

And what exactly is the problem? I think this was very honest and fair of her. Not everyone is as honest. Besides, 25 is way too young to tie yourself down. Let the youth enjoy themselves."

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Yes, her selfishness shows she's very immature at heart now. She doesn't value those who truly love her. Betrays them. Does as she pleases. Only when she is hit with real pain, someone leaving her and punishing her for her actions, would she understand and mature.

You chose her, so stop complaining. Learn from your mistakes, instead of compounding them, with what seems like sheer vanity.

Why would you choose someone who could be your daughter and not treat her like your daughter? i.e. not try to have sex with her, but to pass on your knowledge and wisdom as you would with the people whom you love?

Of course it's because you don't love her, you simply lust after her. You are in love with yourself.

7 minutes ago, Jan Tore said:

And what exactly is the problem? I think this was very honest and fair of her. Not everyone is as honest. Besides, 25 is way too young to tie yourself down. Let the youth enjoy themselves."

He met his match and through that, realises that he doesn't like himself. So he thinks he can change himself for the better by capturing her.

But he is old and she is young, she does not want to be captured, as there she would loose her essence. She has her own conundrum to solve. She doesn't want to be captured by either of them, but currently the Austrian is offering the better deal.

Remember...I have actually been in this situation. I've told that here many times....so I KNOW.

9 minutes ago, FrankieGoesToHolly said:

Haha...unable to put together a cogent response without the use of AI... thank you.

You do not contribute anything else than your own ego, think about that. You talking about being honest all the time, and pick apart other members, find weaknesses, and that says a lot about you.

You have been given the credit to long to be young, reckless, stupid and immature, and thats not going to change in near future. You need a few more rounds on the rollercoaster to learn reall life experiments, and learn form them. The last only if you are willing to learn, if not, it will be status Q and continue to look for flaws everywhere else than at your self.

This is quite common for people who are insecure and despise those who claim they are happy with their life as it is, but it is not said they are not willing to change view in near future if new experiences either teaches them or you actually is forced to change view and action when it comes to personal gain and health

So good luck with a few more turns around the sun, you need it.

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

You do not contribute anything else than your own ego, think about that. You talking about being honest all the time, and pick apart other members, find weaknesses, and that says a lot about you.

You have been given the credit to long to be young, reckless, stupid and immature, and thats not going to change in near future. You need a few more rounds on the rollercoaster to learn reall life experiments, and learn form them. The last only if you are willing to learn, if not, it will be status Q and continue to look for flaws everywhere else than at your self.

This is quite common for people who are insecure and despise those who claim they are happy with their life as it is, but it is not said they are not willing to change view in near future if new experiences either teaches them or you actually is forced to change view and action when it comes to personal gain and health

So good luck with a few more turns around the sun, you need it.

Haha...so here you are, without the fakeness. The real @Hummin 😊

When will you learn, what you think of me is not my concern... especially because you have been so consistently wrong in your assumptions about me. It's all your own.

But I'm not wrong about you, am I?

1 minute ago, FrankieGoesToHolly said:

Haha...so here you are, without the fakeness. The real @Hummin 😊

When will you learn, what you think of me is not my concern...

All of my posts is me, so you take what you want from it, and I can not change that, and seriously why should I bother. You and me are truly nobodies here at this forum, nagging at each other with our perspetives on our lives, and how we want to be seen or read. I have my weaknesses as anybody else on here, and have said many times, being so much on the forum as you and me, is not healthy and says something about us. And it doesnt look good at all. We have accept that, we are stuck here for the moment, and who knows for how long.

It doesnt mean we have poor life, or anything else, but it means our priorities is somewhere it is not productive. That’s the core truth

So who do you want to be when you grow up ? I miss working, I truly miss working, and what I do now, is not working, even I do get 4-5 hours everyday doing something, but for one who is used to work 12 - 16 hours a day when working, this is not enough to stimulate my better side and be productive. But I know when I again settle here for good, and no more travelling, then I will be back in business.

So in the meantime, you and me just have to cope along as good we can without pissing off the moderators to much.

Have a great day