4 hours ago, Hummin said:

Who knows, AI reconized their language to be intelligent the last time, and they had the same structures, and flawless grammars, but again, who knows whats true or not in this tread.

I think he constructed the whole plot, with or without prubang, who conviently came along. I still cant believe anyone would make treads like this about their personal life, and if, god please help them

They are both real. I have their pictures. I'll just leave it at that

10 minutes ago, Celsius said:

They are both real. I have their pictures. I'll just leave it at that

Okay, interesting 🤔

Still unbelievable

2 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Okay, interesting 🤔

Still unbelievable

Nothing unbelievable. More like sad. Trust me on this one

31 minutes ago, Celsius said:

Nothing unbelievable. More like sad. Trust me on this one

It's somewhat ironic that @Hummin is continually pulling @Cameroni up about trust issues, when he clearly has HUGE issues with trust himself.

33 minutes ago, Celsius said:

Nothing unbelievable. More like sad. Trust me on this one

It's been sad from the get go. Even before this thread, the writing was on the wall. Notwithstanding, it's instructive, even educational, to read the about other people's lives and experiences and to observe the accompanying comments and behaviours.

4 hours ago, Cameroni said:

…if Pigman had checked her phone he would have seen her arranging to meet up with me. He could have stopped the whole thing. …

How ? Tying her to the bed? Begging? Bargaining?

Why? There are thousands of other similar disloyal p4p girls available.

Which sane man would claim ownership and prevent them to be on their merry way?

1 hour ago, IsmeUno said:

It's somewhat ironic that @Hummin is continually pulling @Cameroni up about trust issues, when he clearly has HUGE issues with trust himself.

Talking about trowing out a bait, that was a good one, one of your best so far!

9 hours ago, Cameroni said:

Let trust exist.

And let control verify it.

All else is blind folly.

Verification is not required in the normal healthy relationships which seem completely alien to you.

8 hours ago, Cameroni said:

Yes, but whilst you cannot control a woman, you can control some aspects. For instance, you can view conversations on phones and get an insight into what is going on. the mere fact that she knows I will constantly view activity already discourages texting other guys.

You cannot have full control, but you can minimize risk.

I'd never dream of looking at the messages on my Wife's phone... nor her mine.

There is no risk to minimise and no control necessary whatsoever in a normal healthy relationship.

8 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

I'd never dream of looking at the messages on my Wife's phone... nor her mine.

There is no risk to minimise and no control necessary whatsoever in a normal healthy relationship.

True but let has have a hypothetical. You divorce and you meet a girl in her 20's. She's been a bit naughty but is heaps of fun and you want to give it a go. Then how do you guide her towards not getting the rush of instant gratification of social media - where men tell her she's all that and offer money - and towards a more normal relationship that she is not used to.

Obviously watching the girl and her phone 24 7 is doomed to failure and she'll soon hate you or simply get bored. But is there a middle ground where you treat her well and set down rules but without being controlling - to get her to learn to appreciate this form of normal relationship. It's not easy.

Of course in this case the girl - based on available evidence - appears to be happy with a business relationship so she may endure the control in the short term to meet short term ends - cash, a birthday iphone, and a lazy life playing on tik tok.

10 hours ago, Hummin said:

Talking about trowing out a bait, that was a good one, one of your best so far!

Quod erat demonstrandum.

27 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

Quod erat demonstrandum.

English only forum.

3 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

English only forum.

It's okay, I'm English 😊

1 minute ago, IsmeUno said:

It's okay, I'm English 😊

My condolences.

12 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

My condolences.

It's working out okay 👍😊

On 10/27/2025 at 10:39 AM, Cameroni said:

I ain't not Grandpa, I'm 54.  But not so clever, because she talked herself right out of an all expenses paid trip to CM. She's still asking me to come to Phuket. But I can't muster any enthusiasm now she's put her cards on the table and disclosed she's nothing but a common serial dater.

EDIT: ugh - didn't realize this is such an old thread. Why is it still going on?

Original: Assuming you're not trolling (good chance), it's hilarious that you think a hot insta-hoe less than half your age who never met you would be excited about an "all expenses paid trip to CM". She's asking you to come to Phuket because she wants to save herself the trip. She could care less about your "johnson" or CM - she's after MONEY. At least she's honest about not wanting to date you - it's you who didn't take the hint that she's looking for a customer, not a boyfriend.

I was browsing Facebook and this feed showed up. Funny how guys back home are able to pull much better looking girls than Cameroni

4 minutes ago, Celsius said:

I was browsing Facebook and this feed showed up. Funny how guys back home are able to pull much better looking girls than Cameroni

I'm dating a sex worker. Some people should not post about their lives on social media. It's amazing what lengths these older guys will go to for a young trophy girlfriend.

4 hours ago, Celsius said:

I was browsing Facebook and this feed showed up. Funny how guys back home are able to pull much better looking girls than Cameroni

No matter how subtle(or straightforward) you are in telling them, they will often convince themselves that their situation is different. Especially the ones who think their sex is on fire 😊

All you sad sacks stuck in LTRs with over 45s and therefore obsessed with sex workers go away! This thread is not about sex workers.

Live out your prostitute obsession somewhere else.

I realize your lives are shockingly boring, hence you see prostitutes everywhere and are obsessed with them. But this thread has nothing to do with prostitutes. Go away.

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

Live out your prostitute obsession somewhere else.

😂 says the one living out his prostitute obsession to the extreme, filling 246 pages so far.

On 2/16/2026 at 4:15 PM, richard_smith237 said:

You fail to recognise that falling in love with a p4p floozy is not a win, it’s self-delusion dressed up as triumph.

In a display of extreme naivety you’ve convinced yourself you’re the exception, the chosen one, the man who broke the pattern.

Wolfgang will be with someone else - perhaps better-looking than a 3 this time, and without the takoyaki lips and a face for radio - while you’ll be living in permanent low-grade paranoia looking over PG’s shoulder checking she’s not prowling for new customers every spare moment she has.

Every time you leave her alone, you’ll have that sinking feeling in your stomach - the one that reminds you the mercenary brass you’ve fallen for is moments away from spotting someone she considers a better option.

Yours is far from the victory you claim. It’s a face-plant into the depths of desperation and depravity - one that has turned you from someone mildly sympathetic - a man out of his depth into something defensive and bitter, lashing out to protect a narrative that’s visibly cracking. Your online persona has shifted from misguided to resentful, from hopeful to hostile.

You are very very far from a win.

He is blind and has a strange attitude and understanding of women as he said in a later reply ,"Yes, she asks for money, as girlfriends do....."

I have never been asked for money by a girlfriend and if that had ever happened I would have decided, 'Bye, Bye, I won't bee seeing you later"

It shows he has no clue of women other than p4p women, some of those p4p women work the long game instead of pay as you go sex.

Has he never been with a woman who has her own money and jobs/careers.

Plus his description of the last guy who had his way with her is he is super ugly, a cripple (his words not mine), that just shows she goes with anyone of any age who is willing to pay for her, it is not a thing to be bragging about.

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

All you sad sacks stuck in LTRs with over 45s and therefore obsessed with sex workers go away! This thread is not about sex workers.

Live out your prostitute obsession somewhere else.

I realize your lives are shockingly boring, hence you see prostitutes everywhere and are obsessed with them. But this thread has nothing to do with prostitutes. Go away.

I think this thread has everything to do with prostitution. From the very first page, she stated the criteria; sex and money. Not interested in being tied down.

You aren't going to be able to 'train' those browsing the forum, in performing the same mental gymnastics that you seem to have perfected. You are going to have to live with the fact that everyone knows that your girl is a Sugar Baby, sex for sale.

6 hours ago, IsmeUno said:

I think this thread has everything to do with prostitution. From the very first page, she stated the criteria; sex and money. Not interested in being tied down.

You aren't going to be able to 'train' those browsing the forum, in performing the same mental gymnastics that you seem to have perfected. You are going to have to live with the fact that everyone knows that your girl is a Sugar Baby, sex for sale.

This thread has nothing to do with prostitution, p4play, or all the other fantasies you people are obsessed with.

Go away and live out your prostitute obession somewhere else.

8 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

This thread has nothing to do with prostitution, p4play, or all the other fantasies you people are obsessed with.

Go away and live out your prostitute obession somewhere else.

You have to admit you have contributed to p4p treads before, and I had and still have the feeling you have quite a general view on women? Remember you have a long history on this forum with many different treads about women of the night, and also some women deserved being abused because of their personality. Tina Turner is one that comes to mind.

What is different with this girl?

You have my support that not every women or Thai women is prostitutes, but you have a long way to prove to your general fans on this tread. Flies attracted to ,,,, ,,, you know

15 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

This thread has nothing to do with prostitution, p4play, or all the other fantasies you people are obsessed with.

Go away and live out your prostitute obession somewhere else.

Trying to control your readers now like Phuket girl. You created this picture of a Frankenstein monster - who gave favours to old men for financial gain - with your own words. You built up a horrific picture too of Helmut who she chose freely to be with - and by your own admission - did so as she benefitted financially.

You might have to be more careful with your words then so you present her as a free spirited fun lovin' girl - or however you think she should be perceived - rather than by names you feel are unfair and repugnant.

54 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

This thread has nothing to do with prostitution, p4play, or all the other fantasies you people are obsessed with.

Go away and live out your prostitute obession somewhere else.

Hmmmm....so love IS blind 😊

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

This thread has nothing to do with prostitution, p4play, or all the other fantasies you people are obsessed with.

Go away and live out your prostitute obession somewhere else.

Life is not fair, but you are "dating" a prostitute.

The good news is you are getting what you paid for.

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

This thread has nothing to do with prostitution, p4play, or all the other fantasies you people are obsessed with.

Go away and live out your prostitute obession somewhere else.

Did you give her cash?

2 hours ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

Trying to control your readers now like Phuket girl. You created this picture of a Frankenstein monster - who gave favours to old men for financial gain - with your own words. You built up a horrific picture too of Helmut who she chose freely to be with - and by your own admission - did so as she benefitted financially.

You might have to be more careful with your words then so you present her as a free spirited fun lovin' girl - or however you think she should be perceived - rather than by names you feel are unfair and repugnant.

I'm sick and tired reading about this prostitution fantasy <deleted>e, and pay4play and alll the other nonsense.

She didn't go to the Austrian for money. He played on her pity, and claimed nobody was helping him with his two broken hands. That he needed her. That's why she went there. Not money. She went for pity.

This girl is not a prostitute.