2 minutes ago, Celsius said:

 

So do other guys, that's the problem.

 

A few weeks ago "michellefromchina" showed up on my Facebook feed. Decided to google her and she does some porn with the older dude. I stumbled on some reddit posts and found out she has been doing this porn thing only since last month. Before that she was on YouTube and Instagram building up audiences with her "innocent" posts. Reddit in flames as a lot of guys started playing a white knight saying she's being manipulated.

 

Anyhoo, I decided to give it a w@nk. While watching one of her livestreams, some guy says "how much would it cost to f you since the old guy does it for free". 

 

You should see her face and confusion. Her reply...."who said it's free?".

 

I loled and got instant limpy, but returned to the video the next day. 

 

Yah, well maybe I don't have a chance. Looking at her Insta, the Conrad Hotel, the rooftop bars, the pool villas, yes maybe she'll go for someone with real cash. It's possible.

 

Some women are smart enough to understand though that the riches a man has are not key, rather it's his loyalty to her, since a very rich man can withdraw his resources. Many women know this. So they are happy to settle for someone with less resources.

 

Like my Filipina of 6 years, the guy she picked is much poorer than I am. But she knows she will always count on his loyalty, because she's way hotter than him.

6 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Yah, well maybe I don't have a chance. Looking at her Insta, the Conrad Hotel, the rooftop bars, the pool villas, yes maybe she'll go for someone with real cash. It's possible.

How much of this is real?  

1 minute ago, TedG said:

How much of this is real?  

 

What do you mean?

 

All of it.

Just now, Cameroni said:

 

What do you mean?

 

All of it.

Not all is true in the social media universe.

4 minutes ago, TedG said:

Not all is true in the social media universe.

 

Well, she has a pic of her holding a key card to a room in the Conrad Hotel. Whilst standing in a pool villa at the Conrad. With video.

 

It's the quantity of the pics, Ted, that's how you know it's not fake. There is a large amount of photos like this, her in a very expensive resort, an expensive restaurant. And I know some of the pics are real, because they are partly from my date. And I was there. I know I took her to 137 Pillars.

 

I'm not saying skepticism doesn't have it's place. It does. But there are times when things are just true as well.

 

I have no doubt the Taiwanese Ex and possibly others, have taken her on extremely expensive holidays. So she's had a taste of the very expensive luxury life money can buy.

So I'm on here, defending her like an idiot. And meanwhile she's on Insta posting a photo of a bundle of cash with the caption "Don't wait for her to ask" "We can work for ourselves but this would be appreciated".

 

God is laughing at me. You can't make it up. 

 

 

I knew she's Chinese. I knew she had tasted the ultra luxury life. But this is shameless. No matter if it was directed at another guy, or at me. Either way. This is shameless. She knows I can see it.

 

What happened to women? What has become of women? It wasn't like this not so long ago. 

 

Do they have no dignity anymore at all? Who goes on social media to declare they are a material girl? How is this not censured by society? Is this acceptable behaviour in Thailand? Wtf.

I meet a kindred spirit, a girl that is completely on my frequency, who dresses like Audrey Hepburn, looks better than Audrey did, seems perfect in every way...then she discloses she's on sale. Like shrimp in Big C.

 

This can only happen to me.

 

God why do you punish me like this?

I have half a mind to text her "Send me your QR code. How much do I have to transfer to you for you love and loyalty? How much are the other guys paying you"?

 

Hahahahaha.

 

What a world. It's funny really.

You know what's the worst? They are ALL like this. 

 

Filipina virgin made clear how important material things are. Okay, she's giving me presents and nowhere near the mercenary hardcore universe CM girl is in, but still.

 

BKK girl the same, she wants money. Not as much as CM girl will ask for, but also, the same in principle.

 

Phuket Girl? Negotiates like Trump.

 

CM girl is only different in how smart she goes about it, and probably the amounts she'll request. But in essence, they are all the same.

 

It's sobering.

I thought she had a pure heart. She was a good person.

 

In reality she's more shameless than all the others. 

 

Just smarter about it.

 

 

So Phuket girl is Chinese girl with exquisite manners?

32 minutes ago, Celsius said:

So Phuket girl is Chinese girl with exquisite manners?

 

You mean Chinese girl is Phuket girl but with exquisite manners? Yes, but also Chinese girl has a more refined beauty. Phuket girl is beautiful too, but in a more coarse and animal way. CM girl's beauty is very civilized. It's hard to explain. She's a bit slimmer, a bit taller, her face is a touch more intelligent.

 

CM girl may not be as promiscuous, but that's just a guess. Perhaps Phuket girl is just more honest. She is definitely way more honest than CM girl. Phuket girl also sticks to her principles, very stubborn. CM girl seems more pliable, but not clear if that's just a facade.

 

Obviously, the key difference is CM girl's superb English, by Thai standards, and Phuket girl's total lack of English almost. So she can't weave the spell CM girl can.

 

Funnily enough, they both send photos and videos in disappearing mode. Both like to hide things. Keep secrets.

 

I guess there is no perfect human being. I should just pick CM girl, if I get the chance,  even if she's obsessed with money.  Something one can't change. At least I can talk to her and appreciate her charms. Even if they're on sale. 

6 hours ago, Cameroni said:

I meet a kindred spirit, a girl that is completely on my frequency, who dresses like Audrey Hepburn, looks better than Audrey did, seems perfect in every way...then she discloses she's on sale. Like shrimp in Big C.

 

This can only happen to me.

 

God why do you punish me like this?

 

"I thought she had a pure heart. She was a good person."

 

Ah yes........ and i remember the time you said  "Rumak, you are a cynic "   😄

9 hours ago, Cameroni said:

It's normal for interest to go up and down.

Perfectly normal. Coming on too strong is a turn off. You need to play it cool, but you're all over this girl, even thinking about proposing to someone you hardly know.

 

Are you rich enough to get seriously involved with a girl who posts photos of wads of cash, saying that's what she wants from a man?

 

Revisit your pipeline and take back control. Start posting exciting things you're doing online. Women are competitive, so she might start running after you then. 

2 hours ago, rumak said:

 

"I thought she had a pure heart. She was a good person."

 

Ah yes........ and i remember the time you said  "Rumak, you are a cynic "   😄

 

You are rumak, you are. It's too early to say. And even if you're right in this instance, if CM girl is not actually genuine and does not have real feelings for me, it does happen. There are 25 girls who fall for guys in their 50s. i know because my father is one. Okay, as the director of Europe's biggest nightclub at the time he was the embodiment of the contextual Alpha, before that he was a professional musician with so many women he lost count, he told me the stories, how they'd come up to him in his break and tell him they want to give him in a BJ. I've heard all the stories. i practically grew up in a nightclub from the age of 15. I've worked in the nightclub. I've seen Class A game first hand. It's possible.

 

You know what he told me yesterday about this Insta photo? Don't overthink this sh!t, it's just a photo, you don't know the story behind it, it's pointless to think about it. Just focus on her. He still believes. 

 

Okay, I was hasty. It's normal, men fall much faster than women. I was deceived by her agreeing to come on 3 dates, smiling, laughing, walking hand in hand, asking about my intentions, ambitions, I started to fill in gaps with my burning desire. Ok, I admit that. Was I deceived though? Is she really not genuine? It's really too early to say.

 

Yes, it looks like you were right at the moment, she didnt' jump to agree to a 4th date, but things can still develop. The game is not over.

 

 

2 hours ago, Lightyear said:

Perfectly normal. Coming on too strong is a turn off. You need to play it cool, but you're all over this girl, even thinking about proposing to someone you hardly know.

 

Are you rich enough to get seriously involved with a girl who posts photos of wads of cash, saying that's what she wants from a man?

 

Revisit your pipeline and take back control. Start posting exciting things you're doing online. Women are competitive, so she might start running after you then. 

 

Yes, I certainly put my cards on the table with her. Rushing to buy her a case for her phone and delivering it to her house, saying I was serious about her. In the short term that raised her interest. But only for two days, yesterday it was cold in CM and even colder in CM girl's heart. 

 

Clearly I do need to play it cooler now. But it's easier to do by far, seeing these Insta photos and how she's not jumping to agree to date 4. That kind of opens your eyes.

 

But maybe I'm overthinking this Insta photo of a wad of cash. It's just a photo on Insta, a bit like if a guy posts a photo of a rapper saying "if she doesn't give you a 2 hour BJ after the second date, drop that ho"..We may post thinking it's funny, but it need not be our whole life philosophy. I have to give her the benefit of the doubt. Sometimes Insta photos are just for fun and don't have a deep meaning.

 

Am I rich enough? Seriously? This girl HAS NO JOB. The neighbourhood she lives in, her hourse, it's not exactly a palace. She has to ask me to buy her a case for her phone. I'm not saying I'm Elon Musk, but I sure would improve this girl's economic situation. She can post of wads of cash all day long, that's just a fantasy. Sure, it's fuelled by her being taken on holidays to the Conrad Hotel, dinners in 5 star hotel restaurants, so she thinks she has some real evidence that she can command men with wealth.

 

But we know how hard it is to obtain real wealth, how hard it is to lock down real money men who have tons of options.  This may just be a pipe dream for her, even if she got a taste of the real thing. Maybe she's smart enough to know this.

 

Don't worry, I've already reactivated a promising girl from my Insta list where contact was lost. Phuket girl texted me first, after our little argument and is still talking about coming to CM. BKK girl called me yesterday, she's still in the running. The Filipina virgin said she'll wait for me in December. Nakhon Phanom virgin is still writing. It's not like I: don't have options. If CM girl does turn out to be disingenous, and just focused on money, it will be a sad L, but it won't be the end of the world. Yes, all these girls are flawed, mostly due to their focus on money, but I may just have to accept there are no perfect people in the world.

5 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

But maybe I'm overthinking this Insta photo of a wad of cash. It's just a photo on Insta, a bit like if a guy posts a photo of a rapper saying "if she doesn't give you a 2 hour BJ after the second date, drop that ho"..We may post thinking it's funny, but it need not be our whole life philosophy. I have to give her the benefit of the doubt. Sometimes Insta photos are just for fun and don't have a deep meaning.

 

Am I rich enough? Seriously? This girl HAS NO JOB. The neighbourhood she lives in, her hourse, it's not exactly a palace. She has to ask me to buy her a case for her phone. I'm not saying I'm Elon Musk, but I sure would improve this girl's economic situation. She can post of wads of cash all day long, that's just a fantasy. Sure, it's fuelled by her being taken on holidays to the Conrad Hotel, dinners in 5 star hotel restaurants, so she thinks she has some real evidence that she can command men with wealth.

 

But we know how hard it is to obtain real wealth, how hard it is to lock down real money men who have tons of options.  This may just be a pipe dream for her, even if she got a taste of the real thing. Maybe she's smart enough to know this.

 

Don't worry, I've already reactivated a promising girl from my Insta list where contact was lost. Phuket girl texted me first, after our little argument and is still talking about coming to CM. BKK girl called me yesterday, she's still in the running. The Filipina virgin said she'll wait for me in December. Nakhon Phanom virgin is still writing. It's not like I: don't have options. If CM girl does turn out to be disingenous, and just focused, it will be a sad L, but it won't be the end of the world.

The best of Thai Lakorn!!

 

Just as convoluted and crazy as the real deal!!

26 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

You are rumak,

 

Nope.  I am an optimist .   But have witnessed enough to be a realist . 

 

9 hours ago, Cameroni said:

CM girl is only different in how smart she goes about it, and probably the amounts she'll request. But in essence, they are all the same.

 

sounds like you are having some cynical thoughts .   hey,  i'm just watching the twists and turns .    carry on .

 

Note :  the MAIN  take-away for me from this TV series (The life and loves of Cameroni )  is that I feel happy, not envious at all of those who choose to play in the pond where money is such huge factor .   

 

Still, my experiences were quite varied ,  the games and lies did exist,  but all in all i believe that the "simple"  girls were more authentic than higher up the ladder of society or those who would always be looking at material things to be happy.

 

No matter what you say....... those type IMO never actually FALL IN LOVE  with the man .   

3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Am I rich enough? Seriously? This girl HAS NO JOB. The neighbourhood she lives in, her hourse, it's not exactly a palace. She has to ask me to buy her a case for her phone.

By that I mean are you limitlessly rich? There's no limit to the amount of money that a mercenary girl and her family will ask for, regardless of their humble origins. They clean prople out, then move on to the next mark. This girl may be decent,  but you've seen some red flags, so try to keep your head together and judge her character objectively, despite those raging hormones. Proposing marriage is something that should still be a long way down the track.

 

7 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Don't worry, I've already reactivated a promising girl from my Insta list where contact was lost.

It's good to see that you're working on your pipeline again. Well done, and it will keep your primary target guessing. There's nothing wrong with chasing a big risky win, but even the best salesman needs a balanced approach with a fallback position. 

6 minutes ago, rumak said:

 

Nope.  I am an optimist .   But have witnessed enough to be a realist . 

 

 

sounds like you are having some cynical thoughts .   hey,  i'm just watching the twists and turns .    carry on .

 

I must admit I did. But I have thought about this cash wad picture. It's just an Insta pic, it need not be her life philosophy. Here's why I think CM girl is still a high quality woman:

 

1) She showed me high interest - She came straight on date 1, even when I did not spend a dime on her, she agreed to date 2 and then date 3. Her demeanour on all dates was indicative of high interest for the most part. She showed up on time, she took care to look ver y good. All signs of high interest

 

2) CM girl was in her feminine essence, more than any other girl I ever met. She asked me to order for her from the menu. She did the dishes on the first date in my house, she agrees to be led, when I put my hand out she takes it.

 

3) Her morality is on point. She's a Christian girl, she does not appear to have a high body count

 

4) She supported my life already - When she saw me drink Coke, she told me it's better if I drink water, she really seemed to care about my health.

 

Of course, it's possible these are all faked, but I don't think so. Yes, there are signs she's not perfect, and maybe has too much of a focus on money, but who's perfect really?

14 minutes ago, Lightyear said:

By that I mean are you limitlessly rich? There's no limit to the amount of money that a mercenary girl and her family will ask for, regardless of their humble origins. They clean prople out, then move on to the next mark. This girl may be decent,  but you've seen some red flags, so try to keep your head together and judge her character objectively, despite those raging hormones. Proposing marriage is something that should still be a long way down the track.

 

It's good to see that you're working on your pipeline again. Well done, and it will keep your primary target guessing. There's nothing wrong with chasing a big risky win, but even the best salesman needs a balanced approach with a fallback position. 

 

No, I'm not a billionaire. And yes, if this girl is truly mercenary, and her family too, of cousre that would be a major problem. But she just posted a couple of photos about money. Sometimes Insta is just for fun. Maybe I overthought this. I have to give her the benefit of the doubt.

 

You're right, she may still be decent. Yes, there was a red flag, related to these money pics, but I will try to be more objective about her, but you know love is blind, once you re in the land of Vie en Rose, it's hard to be objective.

 

But yeah, I will not close the pipeline just yet.

 

 

Let her know you’re not wealthy and watch how she reacts.

 

It sounds like she enjoyed the comfortable lifestyle her ex could offer and may be hoping for something similar again.

 

Have you heard from her this morning?

If not, send a simple “hello” around 11 and see how she responds.

 

Take some time to figure out what you truly want and need.

 

Keep your options open.

24 minutes ago, rumak said:

Note :  the MAIN  take-away for me from this TV series (The life and loves of Cameroni )  is that I feel happy, not envious at all of those who choose to play in the pond where money is such huge factor .   

 

Still, my experiences were quite varied ,  the games and lies did exist,  but all in all i believe that the "simple"  girls were more authentic than higher up the ladder of society or those who would always be looking at material things to be happy.

 

No matter what you say....... those type IMO never actually FALL IN LOVE  with the man .   (especially with a LARGE age difference .  (yes, your dad was different , but so are the circumstances and times ) 

 

I added this above ............ repeated here 

Looking forward to her next insta post that will make you flip.

 

She tasted the best. She's not falling for the rest. Just like a western lady

 

SHE KNOWS HER WORTH

 

 

Just now, Bacon1 said:

 

 

Let her know you’re not wealthy and watch how she reacts.

 

It sounds like she enjoyed the comfortable lifestyle her ex could offer and may be hoping for something similar again.

 

Have you heard from her this morning?

If not, send a simple “hello” around 11 and see how she responds.

 

Take some time to figure out what you truly want and need.

 

Keep your options open.

 

You know, whilst these Insta photos are a small red flag, if I think about it, I took her on a first date where I spent NOTHING. Not one baht. And she still agreed to date 2. Maybe we're being too harsh on her.

 

Of course she enjoyed the trips to the Conrad Hotel, Hong Kong, KL, Singapore, Osaka Kyoto, who wouldn't? Does this raise expectations? Yes, for sure. But this is my life too, I stay in 5 star hotels, I like to travel. Okay, not Conrad Hotel or Four Seasons necessarily, but good enough for her for sure.

 

She hasn't written yet, but she said she gets up at 11 am. Typical girl.

 

I know what I want and need. I need her and I want her.But yah, I will keep my options open. Her not agreeing to date 4 right away is a clear sign of low interest, which surprises me.

25 minutes ago, Celsius said:

Looking forward to her next insta post that will make you flip.

 

She tasted the best. She's not falling for the rest.

 

SHE KNOWS HER WORTH

 

 

 

Could be, Celsius, could be. Or she realises that all the tastes of the best she had were taken away, because they did not commit. And she wants someone who commits fully. Could also be.

 

Like with that Filipina of 6 years, I flew her with British Airways from Manila to London, London to Grand Cayman. The very best restaurants in the Caribbean. Swimming with Sting rays, diving tours, Chanel shops, plus staying in London, best restaurants in London, allowance of 60000 pesos some months. What do you think she did? Hold out for the same? No after it ended she shacked with a sailor who makes 2000 USD. Why? Because it's good enough for her and at least she can count on that for sure. On me, she never could.

 

I still believe.

34 minutes ago, rumak said:

Still, my experiences were quite varied ,  the games and lies did exist,  but all in all i believe that the "simple"  girls were more authentic than higher up the ladder of society or those who would always be looking at material things to be happy.

 

No matter what you say....... those type IMO never actually FALL IN LOVE  with the man .   

 

I have to say, it did trouble me that CM girl did not text in the warm and loving way in which she showed up on the dates. I mean she did warn me at dinner that she is usually considered a "cold" person and is not likely to write sweet loving things, but it's odd. Whenever other girls have shown high interest they would always write on insta in very effusive loving ways. Not CM girl. She didn't even bother to friend me on Insta, to look at my pics there, which again is highly unusual.

 

You always get the sense that she is guarded, withholding her love, except when she's with you. Then she makes you feel like the world could not be a better place. It's odd.

 

She told me her first boyfriend cheated on her 3 times. He cheated, she took him back. He did it again, she took him back. Then he did it a third time and she left. So maybe her own experience informs this behaviour. I know from my own experience how badly cheating can affect your trust generally.

You want shame?  Go to church.

You want the poo-see?  You go to Thailand.

Going to church for the Thailand thing just doesn't cut it.

 

 

This topic is like the days of our lives.   If this woman actually turns up for dinner on saturday night then i may  start beleiving half of this crap.