5 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Isaan girls are great.

 

Oh I know, BKK girl and Phuket girl are the two prettiest ones, and interesting characters too. The loyalty factor seems a bit low though.

 

The thing is, now I've been been with an urbane Chinese woman that speaks perfect English and has exquisite manners, is femininity incarnate, I'm not sure I can go back to the rougher Isaan girls.

I also used to think that education doesn't matter at all.

 

But seeing sophistication, perfect English, graceful manners first hand, I am starting to think actually it matters.

 

 

19 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

I also used to think that education doesn't matter at all.

 

But seeing sophistication, perfect English, graceful manners first hand, I am starting to think actually it matters.

 

 

It may matter, but it appears to be unobtainable at present.

2 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

It may matter, but it appears to be unobtainable at present.

 

It's very hard to obtain. Particularly if you want it to appear in an attractive physical package.

 

I suppose it's a bit like with English, it matters, it's a nice to have, but you can't make either KO criteria.

 

If you just went for girls with education and perfect English,  you'd narrow your pool of potential girls dramatically. And you can obtain education and English skills.

 

But not gonna lie, going back from this Chinese girl that spoke perfect English, had exquisite manners, could lead an intelligent conversation to say, the 18 year old waitress, who speaks no English at all, it feels like going from eating steak to eating dry bread.

 

It's not the same.

 

 

4 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

It's very hard to obtain. Particularly if you want it to appear in an attractive physical package.

 

I suppose it's a bit like with English, it matters, it's a nice to have, but you can't make either KO criteria.

 

If you just went for girls with education and perfect English,  you'd narrow your pool of potential girls dramatically. And you can obtain education and English skills.

 

But not gonna lie, going back from this Chinese girl that spoke perfect English, had exquisite manners, could lead an intelligent conversation to say, the 18 year old waitress, who speaks no English at all, it feels like going from eating steak to eating dry bread.

 

It's not the same.

 

 

Are you still in contact? Or has she ghosted you completely?

If she hasn't, don't give up. Look at it as a challenge, you have fallback positions and nothing to lose.

3 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

Are you still in contact? Or has she ghosted you completely?

If she hasn't, don't give up. Look at it as a challenge, you have fallback positions and nothing to lose.

 

She hasn't unfollowed me on Insta or blocked me or anything, but so far no reply to a meeting this week. I may write again in a day or two. But I honestly don't have high hopes.

 

Maybe her ex is back. She looked so happy on those excursion pics, whoever took her there, won her heart for sure. Then again, feelings can change. 

 

Let's see.

On 10/27/2025 at 3:44 PM, Cameroni said:

 

I don't. I certainly dont' have to pay for her. A man has standards. Not just about looks, but about ethical behaviour.

 

This girl, though honest, is totally unethical.

It's incredible how naive you are. This hot young lady knows her worth and is going to use it while it lasts. It's not about jumping on penises... that's stupid talk. It's the bank accounts connected to the penises she's interested in, not the sex. If she wants sex, she can find some very handsome young men to take care of that anytime she likes. Believe it or not, a lot of Thai women prefer Thai men for sex. She's probably already hooked up with a Thai man to take care of that part of her life. She might be in love with a Thai man and fleecing foreigners for him. When Thai ladies fall in love, they are dedicated beyond belief.

 

You're old now, get over it. Do you like having sex with 54-year-old women? Probably not, so why should she be into old men like you? Just because she is Thai and you think they all should be easily exploitable? She missed nothing from you, as there are plenty of men more loaded than you, just as interested in a hot young Thai woman.

 

Shame on you! Your ego has taken a hit.

6 minutes ago, JensenZ said:

Probably not, so why should she be into old men like you? J

 

Because I look like 35 for a start and am above average looks. I got the face. Phuket girl will come, she's actually interested.

 

Not worried about that.

 

If she is as mercenary as you say she is, and she may well be, who'd want to keep her? She'd just be a month or two of fun, maximum.

On 10/27/2025 at 3:02 PM, Cameroni said:

So I'm writing for over 2 months now with this Thai girl, 25 years old, extremely attractive. First she agreed to come stay with me in CM, now she demands I go to Phuket for the weekend and says then she will join me in CM. But guess what she just told me? Just to be clear, she does not want to be "tied down", she only wants to have fun and is not ready to be tied down with anyone. "I am afraid to lose my freedom" (freedom to fornicate at will I suspect).

 

This is the first time a Thai girl has literally told me to my face "I want to ride the carousel, yes I'll come have fun with you, but don't have any hopes that I'll stay with you, because I intend to just have fun and ride the carousel until I'm ready to be tied down".

 

I mean I was well aware that girls do this, ride the carousel just to have fun, but to be so shameless about it and tell you to your face, that kind of took my breath away. Has anyone else had a Thai girl be this completely shameless?

She is freelancer, they all say that. Low key

29 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Because I look like 35 for a start and am above average looks. I got the face. Phuket girl will come, she's actually interested.

 

Not worried about that.

 

If she is as mercenary as you say she is, and she may well be, who'd want to keep her? She'd just be a month or two of fun, maximum.

First paragraph, irrelevant - self praise is no recommendation. 

1 minute ago, ChrisKC said:

First paragraph, irrelevant - self praise is no recommendation. 

 

Well, CM girl said I was handsome. 

 

It's what counts.

3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Well, CM girl said I was handsome. 

 

It's what counts.

So you choose to believe the things you like and be suspicious of most other things she said, as quoted by yourself in the previous 60 odd pages

8 minutes ago, ChrisKC said:

So you choose to believe the things you like and be suspicious of most other things she said, as quoted by yourself in the previous 60 odd pages

 

Yes, that I believe, because I know it's true. But of course it's about way more than good looks. That's just part of the entry criteria. I have no problem for the girls to come in. My problem is to find one that is loyal and stays the course.

 

You see what happens, this CM girl has 10 guys, offering her trips to anywhere, even a dinner in a great restaurant won't suffice for these girls. They play their options at will.

 

She acts as if she's interested, goes on 3 dates, agrees to a fourth, holds hands, lets you kiss her, but when some other option comes along, off she goes to Pino Latte.

 

This girl has no job. No money coming in. And she's partying every day of the week, going on holidays, trips, the best restaurants...We can't imagine how these girls live.

39 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Because I look like 35 for a start and am above average looks. I got the face. Phuket girl will come, she's actually interested.

 

Not worried about that.

 

If she is as mercenary as you say she is, and she may well be, who'd want to keep her? She'd just be a month or two of fun, maximum.

The fact that you think you're handsome and look 20 years younger than your biological age underscores your massive ego. That's the only problem here. You can't believe your pretty face and wallet are enough to capture the interest of the young lady you're obsessed with. She can find many men who are actually 35 and under, many of whom are more handsome than you and possibly richer.

 

You can't win 'em all. She's not mercenary just because she's not into you. It also has nothing to do with ethics. She's doing the best she can with the talents she has in a country where getting ahead is not easy. In another 5-10 years, her value will have diminished. Time is of the essence. Did you consider she might be taking care of a large and poor family somewhere in the provinces?

 

 

 

 

 

 

1 minute ago, JensenZ said:

The fact that you think you're handsome and look 20 years younger than your biological age underscores your massive ego. That's the only problem here. You can't believe your pretty face and wallet are enough to capture the interest of the young lady you're obsessed with. She can find many men who are actually 35 and under, many of whom are more handsome than you and possibly richer.

 

You can't win 'em all. She's not mercenary just because she's not into you. It also has nothing to do with ethics. She's doing the best she can with the talents she has in a country where getting ahead is not easy. In another 5-10 years, her value will have diminished. Time is of the essence. Did you consider she might be taking care of a large and poor family somewhere in the provinces?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Good post. 100% correct.

 

I'm sure that's what's happened. I've seen CM girl's Insta, there's ripped very handsome 30 year old Thai musicians, all kinds of guys. She has literally a choice we cannot fathom.

 

But she was at my house. She saw how I lived. Even after I did not spend a dime on a date with her, she still came and showed up for a scond date. A third. Agreed to a fourth. 

 

I guess, out of nowwhere this other guy came along who took her to Pino Latte. Just unfortunate.

23 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Well, CM girl said I was handsome. 

 

It's what counts.

I think your ego got in your way .Pleased you were never my lawyer as you really seem quite nieve and so insecure.

6 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Yes, that I believe, because I know it's true. But of course it's about way more than good looks. That's just part of the entry criteria. I have no problem for the girls to come in. My problem is to find one that is loyal and stays the course.

 

You see what happens, this CM girl has 10 guys, offering her trips to anywhere, even a dinner in a great restaurant won't suffice for these girls. They play their options at will.

 

She acts as if she's interested, goes on 3 dates, agrees to a fourth, holds hands, lets you kiss her, but when some other option comes along, off she goes to Pino Latte.

The difference between you and me can be considered a great distance. I am one of  the extreme few on this forum that has a real photo of myself accompanied by my real name and the truth of my age is 80. I never lie or pretend about anything to anyone. I don't need to, I am man enough to present the truth as it actually is. I say, "better the truth today that hurts than a discovered lie tomorrow that double hurts". Something you apparently know little about. 

Just now, theshu25 said:

I think your ego got in your way .Pleased you were never my lawyer as you really seem quite nieve and so insecure.

 

Nonsense, I put my ego on ice, I went and got her the phone case when she asked, delivered it to her door.

 

So, that was just her literally getting someone to buy her stuff, it was not a test of any kind. 

 

This is how these girls operate, even their shopping is done by their Insta list guys.

3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

I guess, out of nowwhere this other guy came along who took her to Pino Latte. Just unfortunate.

I would think he did not come out of nowhere. My guess would be is that she has more wood on the fire than you. You have what 3 girls you are playing now, she has more for sure. 

1 minute ago, ChrisKC said:

The difference between you and me can be considered a great distance. I am one of  the extreme few on this forum that has a real photo of myself accompanied by my real name and the truth of my age is 80. I never lie or pretend about anything to anyone. I don't need to, I am man enough to present the truth as it actually is. I say, "better the truth today that hurts than a discovered lie tomorrow that double hurts". Something you apparently know little about. 

 

Of course, at 80 I wouldn't need to lie either. Who cares then?

 

It's all over.

2 minutes ago, marin said:

I would think he did not come out of nowhere. My guess would be is that she has more wood on the fire than you. You have what 3 girls you are playing now, she has more for sure. 

 

100% correct. I am thinking she has 10 or 20, and I'm not exaggerating.

 

Her Insta is packed. With quality guys. Not just ugly guys.

 

I thought I was plan B, maybe I'm plan E or F.

5 minutes ago, marin said:

I would think he did not come out of nowhere. My guess would be is that she has more wood on the fire than you. You have what 3 girls you are playing now, she has more for sure. 

 

The thing is though, on Friday this guy was not in the picture. Or else she would not have agreed to date 4. He must have proposed the trip on Saturday, spontaneously. 

 

So it was fairly short notice. Extremely unfortunate for me.

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Of course, at 80 I wouldn't need to lie either. Who cares then?

 

It's all over.

Stop being silly. My philosophy of  life does not revolve around my age. You don't NEED to lie either. Your defence is so weak, it should be thrown out of court,

All this effort over one attractive girl!!!

This is SIMP territory.

OP, if you really think there are 54 year olds that look 35 I suggest you Google what handsome and 35 actually looks like.

23 minutes ago, sidjameson said:

All this effort over one attractive girl!!!

 

Yes, it's too much effort for a woman. Absolutely right. If only one could take women far less seriously. That would be much better.

 

But unfortunately at 54 I'm not getting younger. Even for me time will not make an exception. It's five to midnight in my case.

 

23 minutes ago, sidjameson said:

This is SIMP territory.

 

Not really, Simping is only when she does not reciprocate. However, she did go on 3 dates and everything was as it should be. Only now, is she not playing ball. A dastardly rival has appeared on the scene and stolen Cameroni's Bon Bon.

 

23 minutes ago, sidjameson said:

OP, if you really think there are 54 year olds that look 35 I suggest you Google what handsome and 35 actually looks like.

 

Of course there are, I suggest you google Chuando Tan and have him rock your world.

What is interesting is that CM girl has posted only photos of her. There is no guy in these photos. If she chose that tguy and were really sure he's the one she wants, she'd have put him in the pics. If she were really proud of him.

 

Maybe I still have a chance?

16 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

What is interesting is that CM girl has posted only photos of her. There is no guy in these photos. If she chose that tguy and were really sure he's the one she wants, she'd have put him in the pics. If she were really proud of him.

 

Maybe I still have a chance?

She could be a high class escort. They wouldn't post photos of their clients for obvious reasons. 

59 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Of course, at 80 I wouldn't need to lie either. Who cares then?

 

It's all over.

 

hahaha   oh, mr c !    getting a little spunky there. 

 

hmmmm.  but , hey.. maybe you don't need to lie now either.   acting submissive ( which you will deny vehemently... but that's how you come across to me (and i think some others here) .  (please spare me the why you are not defense) .

 

For me , anyway.... i told you , basically,  that i would not play the game the way you do /did with her... or any girl .  No matter how hard my 2 hearts were pounding.   Really, just does the OPPOSITE of what you want .  Makes you much less desirable to the women.

6 minutes ago, Lightyear said:

She could be a high class escort. They wouldn't post photos of their clients for obvious reasons. 

 

Yes, I also considered this. But then why date me in the traditional way? Why not say "Hey, I'm an escort, if you want to go to bed with me it's X amount".?

 

She was very careful not to put a guy in those pics. So she can't be that crazy about him.

2 minutes ago, rumak said:

No matter how hard my 2 hearts were pounding.   Really, just does the OPPOSITE of what you want .  Makes you much less desirable to the women.

 

What's the difference? I wasn't desirable to her in the first place or she would have gone on the date yesterday. So now I might as well text her and ask for a date again, because the desirability train left the station a long time ago.