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Physical Gold

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I was watching a YouTube video last night of a discussion between a couple of conspiracy theorists (future tellers) one guy was a gold expert who actually is working for a UK physical gold company. In the comments a particular physical gold seller was mentioned and is not a million miles away from where I live. Looked it up and you can buy £25,000 gold ingots that appeared to be the size of a small chocolate bar. It got me thinking. About some worry about how we can carry and move our accrued wealth around with us. I have actually personally got very ittle actual cash around me at the moment it’s all in US stock which I hope will be rising soon and making me a couple of £3000 by flipping them. These £25,000 golden ingots are Vat free. If anybody would like to spread the knowledge on gold and their thoughts. I’m sure there’s someone here who’s got something to say about it all., I personally I’m interested in the fact that I can put one or two of these ingots in my pocket and travel out of the country walking into a gold shop in another country and realise something. Are their rules against this? I can’t take too much cash on a plane but I can have gold chains on my neck or a couple of gold ingots in my  carry on luggage, or can I? Any thoughts on this subject gratefully received?

You'll be ok with the jewelry but if customs find the ingots and you haven't declared them there will be consequences.

 

Not telling you to buy Bitcoin but it is a solution. This is one of the aspects of owning BTC that people overlook constantly. You can go anywhere you desire on the planet with a tiny cold storage wallet in your back pocket. It could contain £1000 or £10 million worth. Absolutely nothing anyone can do about it. Even if someone does see it and confiscates the device, still absolutely nothing they can do about it. All you need to remember is your unique seed phrase, buy another cold storage wallet at your destination and restore your seed. Ta Daa all your wealth will still be there and intact.

 

As I said not advising you to do this but just giving you an alternative solution. Gold is a great store of value and I hold both Gold and Silver, but concealing precious metals when travelling is mega risky, don't try it unless you are prepared to lose it.

 

 

20 hours ago, Stevey said:

I was watching a YouTube video last night of a discussion between a couple of conspiracy theorists (future tellers) one guy was a gold expert who actually is working for a UK physical gold company. In the comments a particular physical gold seller was mentioned and is not a million miles away from where I live. Looked it up and you can buy £25,000 gold ingots that appeared to be the size of a small chocolate bar. It got me thinking. About some worry about how we can carry and move our accrued wealth around with us. I have actually personally got very ittle actual cash around me at the moment it’s all in US stock which I hope will be rising soon and making me a couple of £3000 by flipping them. These £25,000 golden ingots are Vat free. If anybody would like to spread the knowledge on gold and their thoughts. I’m sure there’s someone here who’s got something to say about it all., I personally I’m interested in the fact that I can put one or two of these ingots in my pocket and travel out of the country walking into a gold shop in another country and realise something. Are their rules against this? I can’t take too much cash on a plane but I can have gold chains on my neck or a couple of gold ingots in my  carry on luggage, or can I? Any thoughts on this subject gratefully received?

Like another poster here mentioned, Gold jewelry dangling from your neck is not likely to be a problem. It's another story concerning Gold bars/coins. You will be entering the djungle of international import/export taxes on precious metals. Before "traffiking" Gold I suggest you study this matter beforehand carefully.

 

There is a reason "Gold smuggling" is still taking place. 

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On 10/28/2025 at 11:28 AM, swissie said:

Like another poster here mentioned, Gold jewelry dangling from your neck is not likely to be a problem. It's another story concerning Gold bars/coins. You will be entering the djungle of international import/export taxes on precious metals. Before "traffiking" Gold I suggest you study this matter beforehand carefully.

 

There is a reason "Gold smuggling" is still taking place. 


Thanks for the insight 👍

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On 10/27/2025 at 9:44 PM, Conno said:

You'll be ok with the jewelry but if customs find the ingots and you haven't declared them there will be consequences.

 

Not telling you to buy Bitcoin but it is a solution. This is one of the aspects of owning BTC that people overlook constantly. You can go anywhere you desire on the planet with a tiny cold storage wallet in your back pocket. It could contain £1000 or £10 million worth. Absolutely nothing anyone can do about it. Even if someone does see it and confiscates the device, still absolutely nothing they can do about it. All you need to remember is your unique seed phrase, buy another cold storage wallet at your destination and restore your seed. Ta Daa all your wealth will still be there and intact.

 

As I said not advising you to do this but just giving you an alternative solution. Gold is a great store of value and I hold both Gold and Silver, but concealing precious metals when travelling is mega risky, don't try it unless you are prepared to lose it.

 

 


Sorry for my late reply , been away. 
 

Yeah I’ve learned a little bit more since I posted this. It seems if you wanna have physical gold buying those £25,000 ingots is convenient but when it hopefully rises in price when you wanna realise it back to money you have to pay CGT. It seems Britannia coins. That £3000 ish a piece can be sold back into the system as legal tender. But if I was selling that same gold coin in Thailand, would I still be £3000 for it? I’m assuming I would.  Then also if you have got a £25,000 lump of gold in the bottom of your bag. Can you just take that into your local Thai gold dealer and they’ll pay you out? No questions asked so you’ve been able to carry round the value of 25 grand and then realise it at the other end but this time without CGT, because you’re in different country ? 
 

On the subject of bitcoin obviously everyone wishes they bought £1000 of bitcoin at the start. Apparently, Tim Pool had a computer. With some bitcoin on that would’ve been worth a major sum of money today, but he lost a computer somewhere.  
 

Would you mind giving me a ready throw down of bitcoin. Where do I buy it from, I’ve got Trading 212. How do I realise it back into money? When I want to buy something, what do you do?
 

On 10/27/2025 at 10:14 PM, Stevey said:

I can’t take too much cash on a plane

There are no limits on the amount of declared cash that can be taken out of the country on a plane.

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6 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

There are no limits on the amount of declared cash that can be taken out of the country on a plane.

No, Limit’s on cash that can be taken out of which country?

On 10/28/2025 at 6:28 PM, swissie said:

Gold jewelry dangling from your neck is not likely to be a problem. It's another story concerning Gold bars/coins. You will be entering the djungle of international import/export taxes on precious metals.

There are no "international export taxes" on gold bars/bullion when leaving the UK, neither are there any restrictions on taking that gold out of the country.  A customs declaration may be required over a certain value (£10k?) but, if you're legitimate, that's not an issue.

7 minutes ago, Stevey said:
14 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

There are no limits on the amount of declared cash that can be taken out of the country on a plane.

No, Limit’s on cash that can be taken out of which country?

Well, your OP is about the UK, so, the UK.

Bringing in or out of Thailand  monetary Gold needs a import/export liscence ....., OR you could report the Gold and  leave it at Suvharnabum Customs airport untill you'r return and take it again when leaving Thailand

21 hours ago, david555 said:

Bringing in or out of Thailand  monetary Gold needs a import/export liscence ....., OR you could report the Gold and  leave it at Suvharnabum Customs airport untill you'r return and take it again when leaving Thailand

Individuals, such as the OP, would not be importing "monetary gold" into Thailand but personal commercial gold that they may be carrying would have to be declared on entry to comply with the law and does not require a licence.  It would not have to be left with Customs and there are no restrictions on the quantity as long as the quantity is reasonable and clearly for personal use.

38 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Individuals, such as the OP, would not be importing "monetary gold" into Thailand but personal commercial gold that they may be carrying would have to be declared on entry to comply with the law and does not require a licence.  It would not have to be left with Customs and there are no restrictions on the quantity as long as the quantity is reasonable and clearly for personal use.

any gold bullion is monetary gold , only jewels not , i know nobody like to hear this , but each at their own risk ....jewel gold is not under monetary gold but bullion small or big is

 

5 minutes ago, david555 said:
43 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Individuals, such as the OP, would not be importing "monetary gold" into Thailand but personal commercial gold that they may be carrying would have to be declared on entry to comply with the law and does not require a licence.  It would not have to be left with Customs and there are no restrictions on the quantity as long as the quantity is reasonable and clearly for personal use.

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any gold bullion is monetary gold , only jewels not ,

That is incorrect, monetary gold is owned by monetary authorities and held as a reserve asset.

 

Non-monetary gold covers all gold other than monetary gold.

 

Not sure what you mean by "jewels" (which are precious stones) in relation to the OP reference to gold.   

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 Importing Gold Bullion into Thailand
    Import License Required: You must obtain an import license issued by the Ministry of Finance (Economic Affairs Division) before bringing gold bullion into Thailand.
     Controlled Commodity: Gold bullion (bars, nuggets, sheets, etc.) is considered a controlled item. This excludes regular gold jewelry worn on the body.
    Customs Clearance: You’ll need to declare the gold at customs and provide documentation such as invoices, packing lists, and possibly a bill of lading. This is done via Thailand’s e-Customs system.
Taxes and Duties: While there may be no import duties on gold bullion, VAT may apply unless exempted under specific conditions.


 Important Notes
    Personal Transport Risks: Carrying gold bullion personally (e.g., in luggage) without proper licensing and declaration can result in confiscation or legal penalties.
    Jewelry Exception: Personal gold jewelry worn on the body is generally exempt from these regulations, but excessive quantities may still raise flags at customs.

 

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4 hours ago, david555 said:

 Importing Gold Bullion into Thailand
    Import License Required: You must obtain an import license issued by the Ministry of Finance (Economic Affairs Division) before bringing gold bullion into Thailand.
     Controlled Commodity: Gold bullion (bars, nuggets, sheets, etc.) is considered a controlled item. This excludes regular gold jewelry worn on the body.
    Customs Clearance: You’ll need to declare the gold at customs and provide documentation such as invoices, packing lists, and possibly a bill of lading. This is done via Thailand’s e-Customs system.
Taxes and Duties: While there may be no import duties on gold bullion, VAT may apply unless exempted under specific conditions.


 Important Notes
    Personal Transport Risks: Carrying gold bullion personally (e.g., in luggage) without proper licensing and declaration can result in confiscation or legal penalties.
    Jewelry Exception: Personal gold jewelry worn on the body is generally exempt from these regulations, but excessive quantities may still raise flags at customs.

 


My interest in Gold is coming from the idea of storing value. I turned 50 this year and I’m soon gonna turn 51. When I was about 40 I did not think about the future and there were times where I actually spent all my money and was waiting for paycheck to land with no thought of future. 
 

As I say when I turned 50 I suddenly realised if I’m lucky I’ve got a good 10 years to make some money so I can actually retire. I’ve managed to save some money by working really hard. A lot of that money is out of the bank now and he stored as stock on the New York Stock Exchange. As I’ve been investing in things over the last year and flipping stocks making £1000 sometimes even £2000 in a couple of months flipping Apple shares et cetera I’ve always seen gold there but it doesn’t pay dividend and it’s not volatile enough to make any money out of. 
 

As I say last week, I saw this video talking about how gold could double in the future in value as the Fiat currency declines at the same time. I thought about how would I buy gold? Researching it it does appear that buying £3500 or so Britannia coins avoid CGT if you make a game while you own them and also they’re easy to carry. You can literally hold 10 of them in your hand and have £35,000 of your. Savings with you.  I’m not trying to do anything dodgy I’m just trying to learn the rules, and I’m earning a lot in this thread. 
 

As I walked past the gold shop in Big C in town I sort of realised now why they have these big five bar gold necklaces you really can carry your money around with you around the world, can’t you. 
 

Owning on the Royal mint ticker on trading 212 does look a lot less hassle though  

20 hours ago, Stevey said:


My interest in Gold is coming from the idea of storing value. I turned 50 this year and I’m soon gonna turn 51. When I was about 40 I did not think about the future and there were times where I actually spent all my money and was waiting for paycheck to land with no thought of future. 
 

As I say when I turned 50 I suddenly realised if I’m lucky I’ve got a good 10 years to make some money so I can actually retire. I’ve managed to save some money by working really hard. A lot of that money is out of the bank now and he stored as stock on the New York Stock Exchange. As I’ve been investing in things over the last year and flipping stocks making £1000 sometimes even £2000 in a couple of months flipping Apple shares et cetera I’ve always seen gold there but it doesn’t pay dividend and it’s not volatile enough to make any money out of. 
 

As I say last week, I saw this video talking about how gold could double in the future in value as the Fiat currency declines at the same time. I thought about how would I buy gold? Researching it it does appear that buying £3500 or so Britannia coins avoid CGT if you make a game while you own them and also they’re easy to carry. You can literally hold 10 of them in your hand and have £35,000 of your. Savings with you.  I’m not trying to do anything dodgy I’m just trying to learn the rules, and I’m earning a lot in this thread. 
 

As I walked past the gold shop in Big C in town I sort of realised now why they have these big five bar gold necklaces you really can carry your money around with you around the world, can’t you. 
 

Owning on the Royal mint ticker on trading 212 does look a lot less hassle though  

Next to owning physical Gold there is an alternative. Invest in a Gold ETF (exchange traded fund) but only in one, that is actually backed by physical Gold. (Avoid all others).

 

As was mentioned here, jewellery is not a problem. You could function as a "ginnie pig" for the rest of us. Just wear a 1 kilo Goldbar around your neck and tell the customs guys that this (obviously) classifies as jewellery. = humor humor!

 

Having the choice, I'd go with a Gold backed ETF. Such an ETF will track the price of Gold tick by tick and you can sell it anytime you wish no matter where your geographical location is.

 

On 10/31/2025 at 9:17 PM, Liverpool Lou said:

There are no "international export taxes" on gold bars/bullion when leaving the UK, neither are there any restrictions on taking that gold out of the country.  A customs declaration may be required over a certain value (£10k?) but, if you're legitimate, that's not an issue.

I departed Heathrow with a gold coin, value $56000. 

It was picked up by the xray. 

 

The only obstacle was the chick at security wanting to show her friends. 

 

7 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

I departed Heathrow with a gold coin, value $56000. 

It was picked up by the xray. 

 

The only obstacle was the chick at security wanting to show her friends. 

 

you'r lucky it was only at security and not at customs....:whistling:

Almost every africans in Thailand says they rgold traders..I think they sell more cocaine in the streets.

Ohh..i forgot scamming people and fake marriage with stupid thai ladies.

A little bit off topic but i couldn't let it be unmentioned.

3 hours ago, david555 said:
11 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

I departed Heathrow with a gold coin, value $56000. 

It was picked up by the xray. 

 

The only obstacle was the chick at security wanting to show her friends. 

 

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you'r lucky it was only at security and not at customs

I had to visit Customs prior to departure to claim my VAT refund on the coin. 

 

Customs inspected my coin, it was a two-part process visiting both the Customs office and the VAT Refund office. 

 

2 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

I had to visit Customs prior to departure to claim my VAT refund on the coin. 

 

Customs inspected my coin, it was a two-part process visiting both the Customs office and the VAT Refund office. 

 

so coin was reported by you to customs

27 minutes ago, david555 said:
2 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

I had to visit Customs prior to departure to claim my VAT refund on the coin. 

 

Customs inspected my coin, it was a two-part process visiting both the Customs office and the VAT Refund office. 

 

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so coin was reported by you to customs

I don't understand what you are getting at, have you ever claimed VAT? 

 

It's the same procedure in all the countries I've claimed 

 

 

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13 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

I don't understand what you are getting at, have you ever claimed VAT? 

 

It's the same procedure in all the countries I've claimed 

 

 

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little confused. You had a $56000 coin from somewhere. You had it on you at Heathrow. Then claimed some VAT back somewhere, where were you then?  What coin can you buy that’s $56k ? Aren’t Britannia coins the most valuable ? They are UK legal tender and. An be sold with no Tax implications. 

10 hours ago, Stevey said:


little confused. You had a $56000 coin from somewhere. You had it on you at Heathrow. Then claimed some VAT back somewhere, where were you then?  What coin can you buy that’s $56k ? Aren’t Britannia coins the most valuable ? They are UK legal tender and. An be sold with no Tax implications. 

Half a kilogram, gold coin.

 

Not everyone on planet earth is a Brit. 

I travelled to UK to pick up the coin.

I flew in and out of Heathrow. 

 

 

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13 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Half a kilogram, gold coin.

 

Not everyone on planet earth is a Brit. 

I travelled to UK to pick up the coin.

I flew in and out of Heathrow. 

 

 

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Ok makes more sense now. So you were able to buy that coin and claim UK Vat back as a Non Brit Tax payer ? 
 

Why didn’t you buy Britannia coins with not Vat  and also no CGT on a sale, at least in the uk. It would be interesting to hear about your reasoning in you strategy for the purchase. 

10 hours ago, Stevey said:


Ok makes more sense now. So you were able to buy that coin and claim UK Vat back as a Non Brit Tax payer ? 
 

Why didn’t you buy Britannia coins with not Vat  and also no CGT on a sale, at least in the uk. It would be interesting to hear about your reasoning in you strategy for the purchase. 

I don't specialize in anything in particular, I'll just buy what I like. 

This coin was low mint only 50, it's 2 of 50.

 

I've bought a few Rolex watches over the years that are really nice, they took my fancy so I bought them.

 

Back on topic, I also have several kilograms of gold I bought a few years back in Thailand, these pieces are 10 and 20 baht in weight. 

I purchased when the price was around 17,000 baht. 

 

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