October 30, 2025Oct 30 Popular Post 1 minute ago, fredwiggy said: Take away the money here and how many foreigners would have their women? The reason they're with foreigners isn't all because Thai men cheat and leave after babies are born. It's the better chance at a good life, which means money. Everyone wants money. Most don't care about being rich but comfortable. Some will be greedy no matter how much they have. Stupid women leave money for more money. Smart women don't leave a good decent provider. Thailand is not a normal place to base relationships on, like the west. When there's equality in income, or even close, then relationships are based more on love, care and trust. Ask yourself about all the girls you talk to here. When is money not involved, and I'm not talking about hookers?. They all want cash. Some more than others. You don't pay, they won't play. Some might at first but not for long. They're with you because of a promise, a dream, of a future, so they'll give you their bodies, thinking you'll stay. "I want a foreign man like my girlfriend has. He bought her a house, car, scooter, paid for a farm, buffaloes and chickens". I have to agree with you, but think it's lack of welfare that really creates the female availability in SEA.
October 30, 2025Oct 30 Author 5 minutes ago, fredwiggy said: Take away the money here and how many foreigners would have their women? I'm not so sure about this. Thai girls genuinely find foreigners more attractive in most cases. And the same applies in Sweden, Norway, etc, women like the exotic, the different, so blondes like dark Arab guys, Thai girls like fair Western types. I think even without money foreigners would score here.
October 30, 2025Oct 30 Popular Post 7 minutes ago, Cameroni said: What kind of baggage are you thinking of? The mix is usually her family, painful past relationships, lacking emotional maturity, pressing financial worries, ingrained bad habits, and the worst: "unknown problems" to bite you in the arse when you least expect it. It is just a lottery wheel, what will be found in the backpack she carries around with her... because -- don't kid yourself -- else she already would be in a stable relationship with a Thai man. I just say it as it is, not denigrating those women. Everybody has the right to look for happiness, but the grass is rarely greener for us, or them, if one looks more closely. And mind you, I am happily married. Just extrapolating what I would "get", if I just wanted to move on to another person.
October 30, 2025Oct 30 Just now, Cameroni said: I'm not so sure about this. Thai girls genuinel find foreigners more attractive in most cases. And the same applies in Sweden, Norway, etc, women like the exotic, the different, so blondes like dark Arab guys, Thai girls like fair Western types. I think even without money foreigners would score here. Thai women prefer their own kind. Yes, we're attractive to some because we're different, just as we look at them. Look at how many want to be white skinned, because they see brown as poor country girls. Yes, like I said, at first we will score because of that difference, at least with the lower class women. The rich are with the locals, the hi-so's. Unless you're well off, in a circle with hi-so women and men, where attraction will happen because they know you're wealthy, most of the time they'll still be with their own. Communication is a huge part of this. If you can't speak like a Thai, they'll more readily relate to men that can, other Thais. Some blondes go with black men, thinking they're more virile with bigger dicks, until they find out it's no different, that they all aren't big, and many are dominating, but too late. Still, you take away money, and you would likely never be looked at. A good Thai woman doesn't usually maintain eye contact with a man. Those that have been around a lot of men will. Attraction is always there, but the culture isn't the same as the west, or at least not yet.
October 30, 2025Oct 30 19 minutes ago, save the frogs said: Yeah, the secret that doesn't get discussed much. Stay single altogether. Or just rent.
October 30, 2025Oct 30 29 minutes ago, fredwiggy said: Maybe but ask the women how they feel about it. Well it's not all bad for them.According to the book he has to treat them all 100% equally. Wouldn't fancy that myself
October 30, 2025Oct 30 Just now, Jim Blue said: Well it's not all bad for them.According to the book he has to treat them all 100% equally. Wouldn't fancy that myself If you have that many women, it's impossible to treat them equally. If they followed the book, it might be better for their women, but from what we hear, many don't. I feel bad for them, as they would have a much better life in the west.
October 30, 2025Oct 30 40 minutes ago, jts-khorat said: Not speaking for women what they might or might not believe, or whom they will listen to. Trying to understand this will make a man's head explode. But have you been to Isaan lately? Not that many lithe forms out there any more. The trend goes only in one clear direction and it is the opposite of pretty. Looking at my own massively increased self, I am not sure I have much right to lament this, but here we are! The new world order has a new media BLITZ planned . something about "making everyone feel good about themselves" . The hype is gonna be : Being Fat is where its At ! shouldn't be too long before anyone who looks fit will be made fun of .......... "Hey, man..... are you sick or something? "
October 30, 2025Oct 30 5 hours ago, ezzra said: Way of the new world now where loyalty, devotion and faithfulness are out of the window and it's a me, me, me and only me now. Woof of Wall Street 🙂
October 30, 2025Oct 30 Author 2 hours ago, jts-khorat said: The mix is usually her family, painful past relationships, lacking emotional maturity, pressing financial worries, ingrained bad habits, and the worst: "unknown problems" to bite you in the arse when you least expect it. Spot on, you only forgot the dentist visit, they all seem to have that issue.
October 30, 2025Oct 30 Women get bored with emotionally stable men. The happiest girl in the group is the one who is sporting Irish sunglasses and walking with a limp from the make-up sex. Married women are the easiest ones to bang. You've just got to pay attention to them. Women can never get enough attention. And they're devious creatures when it comes to adultery. They'll do things for that new guy that they'd never do for their husband- unless he treats her like the dirt she knows she is.
October 31, 2025Oct 31 16 hours ago, Cameroni said: That's so true. What is the most important thing in your life? That you ARE alive. Everything else only has importance because of that fact. Yesterday 389,000 people died. Yet you are still alive. A blessed set of facts for you. Well said https://www.facebook.com/share/r/16bgPBDZ7j/
October 31, 2025Oct 31 21 hours ago, Cameroni said: I don't think any woman wants a 50/50 partner, or they'd be paying at the restaurant, what they want is a companion, yes, but like you say, trusted, fulfilling all her needs. But her sexual need, at that age, has to be next to zero, after menopause. We on the other hand never stop wanting sex, and so we need women, which we can get true. So maybe this trend is a blessing for us men, we get set free to live another day with younger more attractive women? Great point - my last 10 years have been the happiest of my life - since my 'glory days' when a young boy/man.
October 31, 2025Oct 31 21 hours ago, fredwiggy said: Marriage and divorce laws are similar, as the justice system in Thailand mirrors that in the west, but mainly European and French. Women usually get the children in the west, but in Thailand they always do, although joint custody is given if a man wants it. As far as property, Thais will split the property and in the case of foreign/Thai, it will usually spluit 50/50 of the things accrued after the marriage. Anything before belongs to who had it before. The same as the west, although the woman can get the house if it was bought during the marriage. If before, whoever bought the house gets it. I've never seen or heard of anyone mistreated in a divorce proceeding in the US, as the courts have to treat each party fairly. Mate - I dont know where you got that from - but I can assure you in the West the vast majority of divorce cases are not 'fair' - the man inevitably loses when there is a legal fight - that is why in USA Prenup Agreements are a must. However, in places like Australia, NZ, UK and much of Europe, a prenup is not binding when it comes to a Court case. Likewise, access by Fathers who want to see and raise their children is rarely 50/50 - and there is often SFA enforcement done on the Mothers - but if a Father misses a payment he is in deep poo poo. Perhaps in USA it is different - particularly in some States. In Thailand what a western Expat brings into a marriage stays his property in a divorce, as you said. But that is not the case in most western countries - a second marriage gives the women (after about 2-3 years) the rights to some of the property both parties own - nothing is excluded during settlement (maybe different in some States of USA). In Australia and NZ (not aware of same elsewhere) if you live with a woman for 12+ months, you are technically married - Yep - and they have rights to some of your property and wealth if there is a break up. I have seen it happen many times - they will stay with a bloke for 2-3 years and then sue for divorce and demand settlement money. Actually happened to my Ex's Father and he drank himself to death after losing his house (had to sell it to pay her off) - that was why my Ex was 'reasonable' when we got divorced.
October 31, 2025Oct 31 20 hours ago, impulse said: Who'da thought you were a romantic? I dont really like cats (or cat people) - dogs dont eat their master when they die (Man's best friend etc.).
October 31, 2025Oct 31 17 hours ago, jts-khorat said: Not speaking for women what they might or might not believe, or whom they will listen to. Trying to understand this will make a man's head explode. But have you been to Isaan lately? Not that many lithe forms out there any more. The trend goes only in one clear direction and it is the opposite of pretty. Looking at my own massively increased self, I am not sure I have much right to lament this, but here we are! I hear you - keeping the weight down gets harder as we get older. But I disagree about the amount of the fat trend in Isan. Yes there are more - but when I walk around the Malls and other places here in Isan, the vast majority of the girls are still very slim - and still beautiful and feminine.
October 31, 2025Oct 31 15 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said: Mate - I dont know where you got that from - but I can assure you in the West the vast majority of divorce cases are not 'fair' - the man inevitably loses when there is a legal fight - that is why in USA Prenup Agreements are a must. However, in places like Australia, NZ, UK and much of Europe, a prenup is not binding when it comes to a Court case. Likewise, access by Fathers who want to see and raise their children is rarely 50/50 - and there is often SFA enforcement done on the Mothers - but if a Father misses a payment he is in deep poo poo. Perhaps in USA it is different - particularly in some States. In Thailand what a western Expat brings into a marriage stays his property in a divorce, as you said. But that is not the case in most western countries - a second marriage gives the women (after about 2-3 years) the rights to some of the property both parties own - nothing is excluded during settlement (maybe different in some States of USA). In Australia and NZ (not aware of same elsewhere) if you live with a woman for 12+ months, you are technically married - Yep - and they have rights to some of your property and wealth if there is a break up. I have seen it happen many times - they will stay with a bloke for 2-3 years and then sue for divorce and demand settlement money. Actually happened to my Ex's Father and he drank himself to death after losing his house (had to sell it to pay her off) - that was why my Ex was 'reasonable' when we got divorced. First, what I'm referring to is for the USA. Every case is different of course, but everyone is usually treated fairly and within the law. Whatever one brings into the marriage is theirs, and whatever's accrued during the marriage is split. The judge, if there's a house involved, will usually give the house to the person who gets primary custody of the children, unless one bought the house before the marriage, and then it is theirs. Most everything is split 50/50 when it's accrued during the marriage. Whoever gets primary custody usually has the children on the weekdays, and the visitation parent gets them every other weekend, every Wednesday night for 2 hours, and school holidays, unless another arrangement is agreed upon by both parties. That goes for everything. If both sides agree, a judge isn't needed except to sign the papers. Child support is ordered to whoever isn't the primary care parent, unless again another arrangement is made. This is the USA I'm talking about, but many other countries abide by the same laws. Not all though. Thailand mirrors the west in design, with the exception of the woman usually getting the children, as they are a little backwards in thinking about that, and also because most men in Thailand aren't going to fight for the children anyway. The USA has laws regarding property if the couple is together a certain amount of time also, common law, again things accrued during the relationship after a certain amount of time. I got my house because I bought it a week before we married in the US. Joint custody but she got primary until she took the children out of state illegally. Then the judge gave them back to me until they left the house at 19. Every couple I knew in the US had the same things happen, along with many I heard and read about. Men aren't treated fairly if they show a lackadaisical attitude towards the children, and some don't choose to fight.
October 31, 2025Oct 31 17 minutes ago, fredwiggy said: First, what I'm referring to is for the USA. Every case is different of course, but everyone is usually treated fairly and within the law. Whatever one brings into the marriage is theirs, and whatever's accrued during the marriage is split. The judge, if there's a house involved, will usually give the house to the person who gets primary custody of the children, unless one bought the house before the marriage, and then it is theirs. Most everything is split 50/50 when it's accrued during the marriage. Whoever gets primary custody usually has the children on the weekdays, and the visitation parent gets them every other weekend, every Wednesday night for 2 hours, and school holidays, unless another arrangement is agreed upon by both parties. That goes for everything. If both sides agree, a judge isn't needed except to sign the papers. Child support is ordered to whoever isn't the primary care parent, unless again another arrangement is made. This is the USA I'm talking about, but many other countries abide by the same laws. Not all though. Thailand mirrors the west in design, with the exception of the woman usually getting the children, as they are a little backwards in thinking about that, and also because most men in Thailand aren't going to fight for the children anyway. The USA has laws regarding property if the couple is together a certain amount of time also, common law, again things accrued during the relationship after a certain amount of time. I got my house because I bought it a week before we married in the US. Joint custody but she got primary until she took the children out of state illegally. Then the judge gave them back to me until they left the house at 19. Every couple I knew in the US had the same things happen, along with many I heard and read about. Men aren't treated fairly if they show a lackadaisical attitude towards the children, and some don't choose to fight. I hear you - in USA it is different - but the subject matter being discussed was both the study results (from USA) and the general impacts and issues regarding this matter here in Thailand. I was talking about then issue on a broader level - in Australia and Europe - where many of us come from. Thailand is nothing like the West in both its application and enforcement of marriage Laws - the rules may be similar - but like all Laws and Rules here, they are not applied or enforced in many situations.
October 31, 2025Oct 31 11 hours ago, TroubleandGrumpy said: Thailand is nothing like the West in both its application and enforcement of marriage Laws - the rules may be similar - but like all Laws and Rules here, they are not applied or enforced in many situations. guy made a vide on youtube. he said if a thai girl lives with you and then you boot her out, she may have some legal recourse? there may be some sort of "common law" here?
October 31, 2025Oct 31 12 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said: I hear you - in USA it is different - but the subject matter being discussed was both the study results (from USA) and the general impacts and issues regarding this matter here in Thailand. I was talking about then issue on a broader level - in Australia and Europe - where many of us come from. Thailand is nothing like the West in both its application and enforcement of marriage Laws - the rules may be similar - but like all Laws and Rules here, they are not applied or enforced in many situations. Thailand follows the European codes, mainly French guidelines as far as what marriage laws are on their books. But like you said, they aren't enforced correctly, and many suffer because of it. Child support is rarely enforced here , so the boys get away with creating babies that aren't supported, and more than 35% end up with grandma because of this, and into criminal behavior and promiscuity afterwards. I have heard from a few they weren't treated fairly in the UK in their divorces, but without knowing their situations, there's no way to guess what went on.
October 31, 2025Oct 31 4 minutes ago, save the frogs said: guy made a vide on youtube. he said if a thai girl lives with you and then you boot her out, she may have some legal recourse? there may be some sort of "common law" here? Mo mate - Thailand's Laws do not recognize common-law or de facto marriages. You have to be legally married to a Thai for any Thai divorce laws to come into effect. I also believe that the local 'Monk Marriage' is not legal - until it is registered with the local Amphur Office and a Certificate Khor2 is issued. For an Expat what means going to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs to register the Foreigner as 'approved' to get married (long process) and then taking that document and registering the Marriage in the Amphur Office. It is only when a couple is officially 'married' by the Designated Officer in the Amphur Office that they are officially married.
October 31, 2025Oct 31 3 minutes ago, fredwiggy said: Thailand follows the European codes, mainly French guidelines as far as what marriage laws are on their books. But like you said, they aren't enforced correctly, and many suffer because of it. Child support is rarely enforced here , so the boys get away with creating babies that aren't supported, and more than 35% end up with grandma because of this, and into criminal behavior and promiscuity afterwards. I have heard from a few they weren't treated fairly in the UK in their divorces, but without knowing their situations, there's no way to guess what went on. Yes - that is true - Thai men often walk away from the responsibilities of a child - different world here. There are many single Thai girls have 1 kid here - sometimes 2 - not something that IMO is the right choice for a wife - but that is just me. I can assure you that in UK, Aust, NZ and many western countries, blokes are financially rap** in a divorce - it is one of the major reasons why so many get a Passport and move in the 40s-60s to a country where the marriage laws are not so anti-male - including but not limited to Thailand. 6 out of the 10 best mates I knew for over 20 years in Australia were divorced by their wives - one bloke deserved it (screw*** around) but the rest did not deserve it - and they all 'lost' in the Marriage Court. Yes - in Australia/NZ there is a Marriage Court that deals only with Marriages and Divorces - 80% of the people working there are women - go figure.
October 31, 2025Oct 31 1 minute ago, TroubleandGrumpy said: Yes - that is true - Thai men often walk away from the responsibilities of a child - different world here. There are many single Thai girls have 1 kid here - sometimes 2 - not something that IMO is the right choice for a wife - but that is just me. I can assure you that in UK, Aust, NZ and many western countries, blokes are financially rap** in a divorce - it is one of the major reasons why so many get a Passport and move in the 40s-60s to a country where the marriage laws are not so anti-male - including but not limited to Thailand. 6 out of the 10 best mates I knew for over 20 years in Australia were divorced by their wives - one bloke deserved it (screw*** around) but the rest did not deserve it - and they all 'lost' in the Marriage Court. Yes - in Australia/NZ there is a Marriage Court that deals only with Marriages and Divorces - 80% of the people working there are women - go figure. The same happens in the child support division in the San Antonio area, along with the Child protection Services. Mostly female, and many hardcore against men from their past history. My ex girlfriend gave me our child to take care of, and the court had her paying child support I didn't ask for. She got behind and ended up in jail for a month. They don't play around in the US regarding children.
October 31, 2025Oct 31 15 minutes ago, fredwiggy said: The same happens in the child support division in the San Antonio area, along with the Child protection Services. Mostly female, and many hardcore against men from their past history. My ex girlfriend gave me our child to take care of, and the court had her paying child support I didn't ask for. She got behind and ended up in jail for a month. They don't play around in the US regarding children. Sorry to hear that - never easy for a bloke when their ex-wife behaves like that. I was lucky and my Ex was fairly reasonable through it all. In fact she was once talked into 'appealing' (by a feminist bitch) against the amount of child support I was paying under our own private agreement, The Child Support Agency ruled that I was paying too much and told her in writing (and me later - I never knew about it). I was happy to keep paying the amount I was paying, and the Ex agreed to never again do any such thing.
October 31, 2025Oct 31 1 minute ago, TroubleandGrumpy said: Sorry to hear that - never easy for a bloke when their ex-wife behaves like that. I was lucky and my Ex was fairly reasonable through it all. In fact she was once talked into 'appealing' (by a feminist bitch) against the amount of child support I was paying under our own private agreement, The Child Support Agency ruled that I was paying too much and told her in writing (and me later - I never knew about it). I was happy to keep paying the amount I was paying, and the Ex agreed to never again do any such thing. Yep, sadly they gang up on the man, especially if a man screwed them over in their life. Get him for everything, not thinking about what's best for the children or fair but revenge. My ex girlfriend knew my daughter was better off with me, which is why I never asked for the support, but the agency always goes after the non custodial parent in the US.
October 31, 2025Oct 31 11 hours ago, fredwiggy said: They don't play around in the US regarding children. For one thing, they understand that kids that are not looked after are highly likely to become criminals and not integrate into the normal working society.
October 31, 2025Oct 31 9 minutes ago, save the frogs said: For one thing, they understand that kids that are not looked after are highly likely to become criminals and not integrate into the normal working society. Divorce is hard enough. Not having a father around hurts both girls and boys in their development and how they react to others as adults. Some pay but rarely see the kids. You're a parent until you leave the planet.
October 31, 2025Oct 31 14 minutes ago, fredwiggy said: Divorce is hard enough. Not having a father around hurts both girls and boys in their development and how they react to others as adults. Some pay but rarely see the kids. You're a parent until you leave the planet. Not seen mine for 16 years. You're a parent until you leave the country IMHO.
October 31, 2025Oct 31 1 minute ago, BritManToo said: Not seen mine for 16 years. You're a parent until you leave the country IMHO. Adult kids always need their dad's for advice. You're their main role model. Never too late. Especially if you were close to them from age 0-10
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