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2nd grand jury refuses to indict New York AG Letitia James:

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17 minutes ago, Tug said:

Lmao 🤣 you are on a roll today!!love it when I see good people just fed up with this abomination……oh but wait there’s more a republican state house just refused to gerrymandering for poor Donald lmao 🤣 I’d bet money the crockery is flying at the White House tonight!!

Five to one Trump has called Hegseth and asked him to put together an attack plan for invading Indiana.

 

Of course the Hoosiers will be able to prepare when Hegseth boasts about it on Signal.

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  • SunnyinBangrak
    SunnyinBangrak

    She may have escaped justice this time round but we have totally harrassed, stressed and humiliated her for a year now - with all that set to ratchet up for the next 3. We learned this from the lawfar

  • This is a truly remarkable achievement considering that only the prosecution gets to speak to the grand jury and present evidence. And it only requires a bare majority of jurors to return an indictmen

  • "we"?   Now there's some delusions of grandeur!   Also, willful ignorance, which is a hallmark of MAGAs.   The (lack of) subtlety might escape fascist MAGAs, but she was

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As has been noted, a grand jury is kind of a softball pitch. The govt gets to present its case, and there is no defense or lawyer offering a counterargument or refutation of what the govt presents.

 

On top of that, an indictment doesn't even require a unanimous jury opinion.

 

Rarely is an indictment NOT returned, and I don't think any AI, searching all court records going back to Hammurabi, could find 2 failures for the same case. Unprecedented level of failure!

 

Halligan and Trump are in a class of their own, or as Trump himself might say..........

 

"Many people are saying nobody can fail as often and embarrassingly as us. Nobody knows more about Grand Jury failure than me."

 

I bet lawyers are lining up to represent James in a malicious prosecution lawsuit. Trump made E Jean Carroll rich by running off his mouth, and he'll likely make James uber rich with his childish crybaby vindictiveness and incompetent political appointments.

 

 

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Trump tried to brand Letitia James a criminal — two grand juries laughed him out of the room.
And now we learn he signed two Florida mortgages claiming both homes were his ‘primary residence’ while living in neither.

He’s not exposing fraud — he’s projecting it.

https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-mortgage-fraud-florida-principal-residences

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5 minutes ago, Wingate said:

I bet lawyers are lining up to represent James in a malicious prosecution lawsuit. Trump made E Jean Carroll rich by running off his mouth, and he'll likely make James uber rich with his childish crybaby vindictiveness and incompetent political appointments.

Just to note, Donald Trump was sued in his personal capacity in the Carroll case.

 

The James case, if there is one, would be against AG Bondi and the DoJ.

2 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

Trump tried to brand Letitia James a criminal — two grand juries laughed him out of the room.
And now we learn he signed two Florida mortgages claiming both homes were his ‘primary residence’ while living in neither.

He’s not exposing fraud — he’s projecting it.

https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-mortgage-fraud-florida-principal-residences

Was that for the $18 million home? 🤣

1 hour ago, impulse said:

 

You realize, of course, that there are a couple of different ways to interpret that snippet?

 

Kind of like the way that they only sent 77 of the 16,000+ arrestees during BLM to prison, while they sent the majority of Jan6 arrestees to custodial sentences.  Does that mean burning and looting were less serious than walking into the Capitol, or does that mean there was a dual standard of justice?

 

"walking into the capitol"?   

 

The live TV that I and millions of others have seen over and over also included attacking cops threatening to hang the VP and hunt down and harm many others along with general mayhem.

 

But sure just a few tourists walking into the capitol in maga world where see no evil hear no evil is dear leader instructions that must be obeyed,

1 minute ago, pomchop said:

But sure just a few tourists walking into the capitol in maga world where see no evil hear no evil is dear leader instructions that must be obeyed,


Republican loyal to Trump claims Capitol riot looked more like 'normal tourist visit'
The comments by Rep. Andrew Clyde, R-Ga., during a House Oversight Committee marked the latest attempt by some Republicans to revise the narrative around the deadly Capitol riot.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/republican-loyal-trump-claims-capitol-riot-looked-more-normal-tourist-n1267163

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3 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

She may have escaped justice this time round but we have totally harrassed, stressed and humiliated her for a year now - with all that set to ratchet up for the next 3. We learned this from the lawfaring left, that the process IS the punishment. Essentially her life is ruined. Mwahahaha love it🤣

What a loser you actually are.

55 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Was that for the $18 million home? 🤣


Translation: I have no argument, so I’m defaulting to the Kool-Aid script and praying it passes for a point.

1 hour ago, Tug said:

Lmao 🤣 you are on a roll today!!love it when I see good people just fed up with this abomination……oh but wait there’s more a republican state house just refused to gerrymandering for poor Donald lmao 🤣 I’d bet money the crockery is flying at the White House tonight!!

I would really appreciate if you would be a little nicer to my good friend Sunny,after all his world is tumbling down.

The guy is hurting!  I feel so sorry for him.

(sarcasm alert)

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1 hour ago, impulse said:

 

You realize, of course, that there are a couple of different ways to interpret that snippet?

 

Kind of like the way that they only sent 77 of the 16,000+ arrestees during BLM to prison, while they sent the majority of Jan6 arrestees to custodial sentences.  Does that mean burning and looting were less serious than walking into the Capitol, or does that mean there was a dual standard of justice?

 


You’re stapling two unrelated things together and hoping no one notices.

BLM arrests were mostly for misdemeanors — curfew, trespass, failure to disperse. Those get dropped in every city, every year, because they’re not felonies and prosecutors don’t waste grand jury time on them.

Jan 6 wasn’t that.
It was forced entry into the Capitol, assaults on police, coordinated obstruction of Congress, all on video. That’s why those cases led to custodial sentences — the evidence is overwhelming and the crimes are federal felonies.

Pretending these are equivalent isn’t analysis.
It’s a false equivalence dressed up as outrage, and it collapses the moment you put the facts side by side.

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4 hours ago, Alan Zweibel said:

This is a truly remarkable achievement considering that only the prosecution gets to speak to the grand jury and present evidence. And it only requires a bare majority of jurors to return an indictment. 

 

I am eagerly awaiting President Trump's sober and scholarly critique of this second failure. 

"Fake news, radical jurors, Chaiina..."

 

Personally I suspect that they (the grand jury) were nobbled by an unholy alliance of Canada, Greenland/Denmark and Zelenski's Ukraine.  The ghost of Hugo Chavez was probably in the mix somewhere; oh and that Jasmine Crockett woman - very low IQ you know!

22 minutes ago, jvs said:

I would really appreciate if you would be a little nicer to my good friend Sunny,after all his world is tumbling down.

The guy is hurting!  I feel so sorry for him.

(sarcasm alert)

Hurting, hurting? I believe that the correct term in his favoured political circles is "butthurting"!

31 minutes ago, jvs said:

I would really appreciate if you would be a little nicer to my good friend Sunny,after all his world is tumbling down.

The guy is hurting!  I feel so sorry for him.

(sarcasm alert)

My choice for POTUS has 3 years left to serve. Thanks to him my Nasdaq and S&P etf's are through the roof setting all time high after all time highs. Kamala and Biden are somewhere between irrelevance and obscurity. Comey, Willis, James, Smith and the lawfare brigade are in a whole world of suffering. The Biden open border got slammed shut. The global warming hoax is looked at as a joke pretty much everywhere even by top leftie scientist mr Gates. Gas prices are down. The world knows what a women is again. Tom Homan and Steven Miller are magnificent. Trumps big beautiful tariffs are bringing back the jobs Obama falsely said could never come back. Were about to get $2,000 to fritter away. The Biden autopen pardons got cancelled. The top 17/17 threads are utterly deranged leftie tantrums over Trump.....

And you say my world is tumbling down? Hilarious🤣 

13 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Tom Homan and Steven Miller are magnificent.

Idly scrolling along as one does when I came across this phrase. Coffee all over the kitchen table, please stop, it hurts!

Glad to see at least there are a few people still have some sense in USA...Newsom for President!!!

Impeach and convict Trump NOW !!!

2 hours ago, impulse said:

Kind of like the way that they only sent 77 of the 16,000+ arrestees during BLM to prison,

Of course, you have a source to prove it?

30 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

My choice for POTUS has 3 years left to serve. Thanks to him my Nasdaq and S&P etf's are through the roof setting all time high after all time highs. Kamala and Biden are somewhere between irrelevance and obscurity. Comey, Willis, James, Smith and the lawfare brigade are in a whole world of suffering. The Biden open border got slammed shut. The global warming hoax is looked at as a joke pretty much everywhere even by top leftie scientist mr Gates. Gas prices are down. The world knows what a women is again. Tom Homan and Steven Miller are magnificent. Trumps big beautiful tariffs are bringing back the jobs Obama falsely said could never come back. Were about to get $2,000 to fritter away. The Biden autopen pardons got cancelled. The top 17/17 threads are utterly deranged leftie tantrums over Trump.....

And you say my world is tumbling down? Hilarious🤣 

You made up a lot of stuff in your post again! :laugh:

1 hour ago, pomchop said:

"walking into the capitol"?   

 

The live TV that I and millions of others have seen over and over also included attacking cops threatening to hang the VP and hunt down and harm many others along with general mayhem.

 

That's true and some of them needed to go to jail.

 

But they also arrested people who did nothing violent and forced them to plead guilty in order to keep from being sentenced to decades in prison.  That's after the cops actually held the doors open for them.

 

 

1 hour ago, LosLobo said:

You’re stapling two unrelated things together and hoping no one notices.

BLM arrests were mostly for misdemeanors — curfew, trespass, failure to disperse. Those get dropped in every city, every year, because they’re not felonies and prosecutors don’t waste grand jury time on them.

 

Misdemeanors???  I'll just respond with this from the Major Cities (Police) Chiefs Assoc (MCCA) report after the summer of love and mostly peaceful arson and looting.

 

BLMnumbers.jpg.9ab3ffaf4be7d33bb68d621ed1eddf5c.jpg

 

There was no arson on Jan 6.  No cop cars burned up.  Virtually no looting (except a few idiots stealing souvenirs), and less than 1/10 the number of injured cops.  And the only people killed were protestors, at the hand of the cops.

 

Yet 10x as many Jan6'ers got sentenced to prison for one afternoon as BLM'ers, for all those months and months of mayhem.

 

 

 

Is the DoJ allowed to try again? 

31 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Misdemeanors???  I'll just respond with this from the Major Cities (Police) Chiefs Assoc (MCCA) report after the summer of love and mostly peaceful arson and looting.

 

BLMnumbers.jpg.9ab3ffaf4be7d33bb68d621ed1eddf5c.jpg

 

There was no arson on Jan 6.  No cop cars burned up.  Virtually no looting (except a few idiots stealing souvenirs), and less than 1/10 the number of injured cops.  And the only people killed were protestors, at the hand of the cops.

 

Yet 10x as many Jan6'ers got sentenced to prison for one afternoon as BLM'ers, for all those months and months of mayhem.

 

 

You’ve moved the goalposts from arrests to nationwide unrest stats because your original point collapsed. And now you’re arguing against a strawman by pretending someone claimed the 2020 unrest had no crimes.

Different conduct, different laws, different courts — and you’re conflating them to avoid admitting your OP never made sense in the first place.

5 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

You’ve moved the goalposts from arrests to nationwide unrest stats because your original point collapsed. And now you’re arguing against a strawman by pretending someone claimed the 2020 unrest had no crimes.

Different conduct, different laws, different courts — and you’re conflating them to avoid admitting your OP never made sense in the first place.

 

If you say so.  But I disagree.

 

Seems like all charges dropped by a jury of her peers. Trying again would look like Trump wants vengeance, not justice.

5 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

If you say so.

 


Translation: I can’t refute it, so I’ll pretend you just made it up and hope no one notices.

4 hours ago, impulse said:

With the specific intent to deprive American citizens of the right to vote for the candidate they voted for.

Which is ironic because what it more likely did, regardless of Judge Engoron's decision against Trump, was in some manner help him get re-elected. 

7 hours ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Federal prosecutors on Thursday failed to convince a majority of grand jurors to approve charges that James misled a bank to obtain favorable loan terms on a home mortgage, according to sources.

I bet the same grand jury would indict Trump for just about anything.  I case no no has notice, but the judiciary is as politically bent as the rest of the US.  Depending on which jurisdiction you are in that is. So James is in a jurisdiction where she will never be indicted but Trump would be indicted for eating a ham sandwich.

Imho, can you hear the flushing sound?  That's the United States going down the s**tter.  

1 hour ago, impulse said:

 

That's true and some of them needed to go to jail.

 

But they also arrested people who did nothing violent and forced them to plead guilty in order to keep from being sentenced to decades in prison.  That's after the cops actually held the doors open for them.

 

 

What really happened:
A few overwhelmed officers pulled back to avoid being crushed — a tactical retreat, not an invitation.

 

The actual footage shows:

  • barricades smashed
  • windows broken
  • officers beaten and sprayed
  • the mob overrunning police lines
  • Congress being evacuated as the building was breached
     

Once the Capitol is locked down, anyone entering is committing a federal crime — violence or not.
No one was forced to plead guilty — they did so because the video, GPS data, and their own posts made the cases undeniable.
No one ‘held the doors open’ — officers were being pushed back, not ushering anyone inside.
And the outer doors weren’t opened for anyone — the mob had already smashed their way through.

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