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Trump, Clinton in Epstein Photos

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1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

Not a good look for the con man grifter. A statutory sort of guy also? Very possible. 

 

 

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Oh.....you missed these on purpose???

 

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    why would woody allen need to partake in this nonsense when he is already married to a much younger woman?   

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18 minutes ago, mikeymike100 said:

 

Hah, "answered by his former fixer Cohen ages ago"?

 

You mean the convicted felon, disbarred lawyer, and admitted perjurer who flipped on Trump for a plea deal and now hawks anti-Trump books like a carnival barker?

Cohen's 2024 hush-money trial ramblings – claiming the 2004 Mar-a-Lago ban was "solely over a real estate spat," not Epstein's creepiness – are as credible as his "I lied to Congress" confession (2018 guilty plea for tax evasion, bank fraud, campaign violations).

Cohen's a walking contradiction: He swore under oath Trump "knew nothing" about Epstein's crimes in 2019 depositions, then flipped the script for revenge post-firing. "Knew full well"? Zero proof – no docs, witnesses, or evidence link Trump to the island or victims, unlike Clinton's 26 Lolita rides.

If Cohen's your "ages ago" oracle, surprise: He's a bitter has-been whose "testimony" got shredded in cross-exam (jury instructions called him "unreliable").

Trump's ban in 2004? Pre-Epstein's 2005 exposure – he cut ties early over rumors, not "full knowledge." Your "gotcha" is a dud from a dud witness. Keep grasping at Cohen straws; the rest of us see the vendetta.


You’re confused about what Cohen represents.

Cohen isn’t the case against Trump — he’s the proof of how Trump operates.
He went to prison for crimes that benefited Trump. That’s why Trump was named ‘Individual-1’.

Calling Cohen a liar doesn’t help you.
It explains why Trump hired him — and why Trump abandoned him once the heat landed.

Cohen didn’t flip for a deal.
He pleaded guilty, did time, then stopped protecting a man who disowned him and offered no pardon.

As for Epstein: Cohen isn’t the source.
Trump’s own words, photos, and long social record exist independently of him.

The Clinton detour is irrelevant. Prosecute Clinton too — it’s not a defence of Trump.

This isn’t about trusting a witness.
It’s about recognising the pattern: the fixer does the time, the boss claims ignorance.

25 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

That's splitting hairs. 

 

No it is not. You wrote that she was  his step daughter and she was not.

There was no familial relationship and there was no social relationship with Soon Yi Previn prior to their coupling. 

 

4 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

No it is not. You wrote that she was  his step daughter and she was not.

There was no familial relationship and there was no social relationship with Soon Yi Previn prior to their coupling. 

 

Yes it is

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2 minutes ago, LosLobo said:


You’re confused about what Cohen represents.

Cohen isn’t the case against Trump — he’s the proof of how Trump operates.
He went to prison for crimes that benefited Trump. That’s why Trump was named ‘Individual-1’.

Calling Cohen a liar doesn’t help you.
It explains why Trump hired him — and why Trump abandoned him once the heat landed.

Cohen didn’t flip for a deal.
He pleaded guilty, did time, then stopped protecting a man who disowned him and offered no pardon.

As for Epstein: Cohen isn’t the source.
Trump’s own words, photos, and long social record exist independently of him.

The Clinton detour is irrelevant. Prosecute Clinton too — it’s not a defence of Trump.

This isn’t about trusting a witness.
It’s about recognising the pattern: the fixer does the time, the boss claims ignorance.

 

😅You're the one confused

 

– Cohen's not "proof" of anything except how a disgraced fixer turns revenge porn into a career after getting caught in his own web of lies. "Went to prison for crimes benefiting Trump"?

 

Selective memory – Cohen pleaded guilty in 2018 to his own tax evasion, bank fraud, and campaign violations (unrelated to Trump), then named "Individual-1" in a desperate bid for leniency.

 

Trump as unindicted co-conspirator? A legal nothingburger – no charges, no conviction, just Cohen's word, which flipped like a pancake after Trump refused to bail him out.

 

"Calling Cohen a liar doesn’t help"? It destroys your case – the guy admitted lying to Congress (perjury guilty plea), lied about Prague (Mueller hoax), and his 2024 hush-money testimony got eviscerated on cross (judge called it "unreliable," jury instructions warned "accomplice testimony needs corroboration").

 

Trump hired him for shady real estate deals, sure – but abandoned him? Cohen was fired in 2018 for incompetence and theft (billing fraud); no "pardon" because Cohen's a rat who sold out for a book deal ($1M advance) and MSNBC gigs.

 

Epstein? Your "independent words/photos" spin is weak sauce – a handful of 1990s party pics and a 2002 "terrific guy" quote (pre-crimes exposure) prove zilch beyond Palm Beach schmoozing.

 

Trump banned him from Mar-a-Lago in 2004 over creep rumors, no island visits, one plane ride (1997, not to Lolita). "Long social record"? Show receipts – no witnesses, logs, or victims link Trump; unlike Clinton's 26 flights or Gates' dinners. "Irrelevant detour"? Nah – it's hypocrisy:

If association damns, why the selective outrage?

The "pattern: fixer does time, boss claims ignorance"? That's conspiracy fanfic – Cohen's the outlier, a self-admitted crook who flipped for revenge. Trump's circle?

Loyalists like Navarro did time for principle, not "abandonment." Your narrative's the real spin: Desperate to tie Trump to Epstein's sins without a shred of proof. Keep grasping; the facts don't bend to your bias.

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The real question is: how many times are we going to forgive that Trump plays by his own rules and cover it up? 

We already know that he's a sex offender. That's been proven in court.

... but his followers just don't care. And THAT is the biggest problem of all for America, not Trump himself.

Hey, if it walks like a duck, and it talks like a duck...

4 minutes ago, FolkGuitar said:

The real question is: how many times are we going to forgive that Trump plays by his own rules and cover it up? 

We already know that he's a sex offender. That's been proven in court.

... but his followers just don't care. And THAT is the biggest problem of all for America, not Trump himself.

Hey, if it walks like a duck, and it talks like a duck...

 

Yah, I still don't buy that he fingered a 52 year old woman in a department store. 

 

That's insane. 

 

Obviously a political stunt.

3 hours ago, Oliver Holzerfilled said:

"The first batch of 19 photos was made public by Democrats on the House Oversight Committee after the panel received nearly 100,000 images from Epstein’s estate."

 

100,000 images and these nothingburgers are all they've got?

 

https://youtu.be/eANcbFSPHyA?si=HAjo-O1L5gG5G5r0

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

These will be drip fed into the public domain......presumably the most damning towards the end of the campaign.....this is just a taster.

 

 

 

Just now, Cameroni said:

 

Yah, I still don't buy that he fingered a 52 year old woman in a department store. 

 

That's insane. 

 

Obviously a political stunt.

Even more excuses................:saai:....................:coffee1:

Trump is lucky to get his paws on anything, you seen the state of the bloke...........😬

1 minute ago, transam said:

Even more excuses................:saai:....................:coffee1:

Trump is lucky to get his paws on anything, you seen the state of the bloke...........😬

 

You seen his supermodel wife?

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4 minutes ago, FolkGuitar said:

We already know that he's a sex offender. That's been proven in court.

 

 

Proven?   

 

By a 50+ year old "victim" who doesn't even remember what year it happened, with no witnesses, no police report, no CCTV, no complaint filed against the store where she says it happened, and only 30 years later when Trump's running for office and she's selling a book.

 

Right.

 

If you really want a chuckle, read about all the other times she's been sexually assaulted by other guys.  It's in her book.  She's apparently a rapist magnet.

 

5 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

You seen his supermodel wife?

Purely a cash arrangement, I would have thought.......🤑

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2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Not a good look for the con man grifter. A statutory sort of guy also? Very possible. 

 

 

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I sense some jealousy. 

28 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Proven?   

 

By a 50+ year old "victim" who doesn't even remember what year it happened, with no witnesses, no police report, no CCTV, no complaint filed against the store where she says it happened, and only 30 years later when Trump's running for office and she's selling a book.

 

Right.

 

If you really want a chuckle, read about all the other times she's been sexually assaulted by other guys.  It's in her book.  She's apparently a rapist magnet.

 

So the fact (note that word, ‘fact,’) he has been PROVEN GUILTY by a jury of his peers, in a U.S. Court of law has no meaning for you?  You must be one heck of a Patriot to so blithely ignore our legal system. 
Oh… wait! So does your master. Perhaps that explains it. 

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49 minutes ago, mikeymike100 said:

 

😅You're the one confused

 

– Cohen's not "proof" of anything except how a disgraced fixer turns revenge porn into a career after getting caught in his own web of lies. "Went to prison for crimes benefiting Trump"?

 

Selective memory – Cohen pleaded guilty in 2018 to his own tax evasion, bank fraud, and campaign violations (unrelated to Trump), then named "Individual-1" in a desperate bid for leniency.

 

Trump as unindicted co-conspirator? A legal nothingburger – no charges, no conviction, just Cohen's word, which flipped like a pancake after Trump refused to bail him out.

 

"Calling Cohen a liar doesn’t help"? It destroys your case – the guy admitted lying to Congress (perjury guilty plea), lied about Prague (Mueller hoax), and his 2024 hush-money testimony got eviscerated on cross (judge called it "unreliable," jury instructions warned "accomplice testimony needs corroboration").

 

Trump hired him for shady real estate deals, sure – but abandoned him? Cohen was fired in 2018 for incompetence and theft (billing fraud); no "pardon" because Cohen's a rat who sold out for a book deal ($1M advance) and MSNBC gigs.

 

Epstein? Your "independent words/photos" spin is weak sauce – a handful of 1990s party pics and a 2002 "terrific guy" quote (pre-crimes exposure) prove zilch beyond Palm Beach schmoozing.

 

Trump banned him from Mar-a-Lago in 2004 over creep rumors, no island visits, one plane ride (1997, not to Lolita). "Long social record"? Show receipts – no witnesses, logs, or victims link Trump; unlike Clinton's 26 flights or Gates' dinners. "Irrelevant detour"? Nah – it's hypocrisy:

If association damns, why the selective outrage?

The "pattern: fixer does time, boss claims ignorance"? That's conspiracy fanfic – Cohen's the outlier, a self-admitted crook who flipped for revenge. Trump's circle?

Loyalists like Navarro did time for principle, not "abandonment." Your narrative's the real spin: Desperate to tie Trump to Epstein's sins without a shred of proof. Keep grasping; the facts don't bend to your bias.


Nice salad of classic ad hominem, false dichotomy, argument from non-indictment, selective skepticism, whataboutism, straw man, non sequitur, false equivalence, and procedural-exoneration fallacies.
 

You’re still arguing the wrong thing.
 

No one says Cohen is a saint or a stand-alone witness. Cohen is evidence of how Trump operates, not proof by himself.
 

Cohen’s crimes were not ‘unrelated’. The campaign-finance violations were for Trump’s benefit, which is why prosecutors named Trump as ‘Individual-1’. That’s not leniency-seeking spin; it’s a legal designation.
 

‘No charges’ does not mean ‘no wrongdoing’. Trump wasn’t charged in large part because DOJ policy shields a sitting president. That policy — not exoneration — is why the boss didn’t join the bagman in court.
 

Calling Cohen a liar proves the point. Trump hired a liar, a fixer, and a criminal — then disowned him once the risk landed. That doesn’t clear Trump; it indicts his judgment and his method.
 

Cross-examination didn’t erase facts. Juries are always warned about accomplice testimony. That’s standard law, not a finding that Cohen fabricated everything.
 

Epstein isn’t built on Cohen. Trump’s own words, photos, and long social association exist independently. Dismissing Cohen doesn’t delete Trump praising Epstein, partying with him, or keeping him close for years.
 

The Clinton pivot is still a dodge. If Clinton committed crimes, prosecute him. That’s not a defence of Trump — it’s an admission you can’t defend Trump on his own record.
 

Bottom line: this isn’t ‘revenge porn’. It’s a familiar structure — the fixer does the time, the boss pleads ignorance, and supporters confuse lack of indictment with innocence.
 

You’re not correcting the record. You’re defending immunity as if it were proof.

1 hour ago, mikeymike100 said:

Oh.....you missed these on purpose???

 

 

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I don't care about those other guys there are hundreds of guys that are guilty of associating with Epstein and likely using his services, but they're not president of the US are they? 

17 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

I don't care about those other guys there are hundreds of guys that are guilty of associating with Epstein and likely using his services, but they're not president of the US are they? 

At least one was almost King of England!

12 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

I don't care about those other guys there are hundreds of guys that are guilty of associating with Epstein and likely using his services, but they're not president of the US are they? 

 

Oh, the convenient amnesia – "hundreds guilty of associating and using services, but only Trump's president so screw the rest"? Hypocrisy alert:

If mere photos and flights "prove guilt," why the free pass for Clinton's 26 Lolita rides (including to the island),

Gates' cozy dinners post-conviction, or Prince Andrew's $12M settlement?

Trump's one plane hop (1997, not to Pedo Island) and a few '90s party pics = "guilty," but the rest get "I don't care"? That's laser-focused hate for the guy who won twice, not truth-seeking.Trump cut Epstein loose in 2004 over creep rumors – pre-scandal – while your "hundreds" partied on.

"Not president"? Weak – Clinton was president during Epstein ties (1993–2001 flights), yet crickets from you. Association ≠ guilt; no evidence Trump "knew" or participated (zero witnesses, logs, or victims say otherwise). Your "only Trump matters" shtick? It's not justice; it's partisan hackery. If we're torching elites, start with the ones who didn't ban the pedo. :whistling:

7 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

At least one was almost King of England!

 

ALMOST....???😅

16 minutes ago, mikeymike100 said:

ALMOST....???😅

2nd in line for nearly 20 years ...........

I like Woody Allen films.

I hate Annie Hall, the film.

 

I detest mendacity, even more than Big Daddy in the Tennessee Williams play/film.

 

Why were those in power so willing to spend time with Epstein.

 

Epstein seemed, from all outward appearances, with his little trademark smirk, to be such a disgusting jerk.

 

Why do people like this, or how do they, and how are they able, to develop these relationships with so many people.

 

Is it only the powerful people they prefer?

 

Or, do they, people like Epstein, love people?

 

Epstein must have been such a true people person.

 

(And this reminds me why I believe that social relationships are not as important as some might say, unless one is just building relationships for the purpose of reaching some objective, and obtaining what they are after. Epstein seems to have scored high on the machiavellian scale.  This requires plenty of mendacity.)

 

 

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2 hours ago, mikeymike100 said:

Oh.....you missed these on purpose???

 

 

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Right! Don't forget Clinton! 😅

 

 

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33 minutes ago, mikeymike100 said:

 

Oh, the convenient amnesia – "hundreds guilty of associating and using services, but only Trump's president so screw the rest"? Hypocrisy alert:

If mere photos and flights "prove guilt," why the free pass for Clinton's 26 Lolita rides (including to the island),

Gates' cozy dinners post-conviction, or Prince Andrew's $12M settlement?

Trump's one plane hop (1997, not to Pedo Island) and a few '90s party pics = "guilty," but the rest get "I don't care"? That's laser-focused hate for the guy who won twice, not truth-seeking.Trump cut Epstein loose in 2004 over creep rumors – pre-scandal – while your "hundreds" partied on.

"Not president"? Weak – Clinton was president during Epstein ties (1993–2001 flights), yet crickets from you. Association ≠ guilt; no evidence Trump "knew" or participated (zero witnesses, logs, or victims say otherwise). Your "only Trump matters" shtick? It's not justice; it's partisan hackery. If we're torching elites, start with the ones who didn't ban the pedo. :whistling:

 

"If mere photos and flights "prove guilt," why the free pass for Clinton's 26 Lolita rides (including to the island),"

 

Of course, it's a lie. There's no flight log of Clinton going to pedo Island! 😆

4 minutes ago, candide said:

 

"If mere photos and flights "prove guilt," why the free pass for Clinton's 26 Lolita rides (including to the island),"

 

Of course, it's a lie. There's no flight log of Clinton going to pedo Island! 😆

Making stuff up again🤣

27 minutes ago, LosLobo said:


Nice salad of classic ad hominem, false dichotomy, argument from non-indictment, selective skepticism, whataboutism, straw man, non sequitur, false equivalence, and procedural-exoneration fallacies.
 

You’re still arguing the wrong thing.
 

No one says Cohen is a saint or a stand-alone witness. Cohen is evidence of how Trump operates, not proof by himself.
 

Cohen’s crimes were not ‘unrelated’. The campaign-finance violations were for Trump’s benefit, which is why prosecutors named Trump as ‘Individual-1’. That’s not leniency-seeking spin; it’s a legal designation.
 

‘No charges’ does not mean ‘no wrongdoing’. Trump wasn’t charged in large part because DOJ policy shields a sitting president. That policy — not exoneration — is why the boss didn’t join the bagman in court.
 

Calling Cohen a liar proves the point. Trump hired a liar, a fixer, and a criminal — then disowned him once the risk landed. That doesn’t clear Trump; it indicts his judgment and his method.
 

Cross-examination didn’t erase facts. Juries are always warned about accomplice testimony. That’s standard law, not a finding that Cohen fabricated everything.
 

Epstein isn’t built on Cohen. Trump’s own words, photos, and long social association exist independently. Dismissing Cohen doesn’t delete Trump praising Epstein, partying with him, or keeping him close for years.
 

The Clinton pivot is still a dodge. If Clinton committed crimes, prosecute him. That’s not a defence of Trump — it’s an admission you can’t defend Trump on his own record.
 

Bottom line: this isn’t ‘revenge porn’. It’s a familiar structure — the fixer does the time, the boss pleads ignorance, and supporters confuse lack of indictment with innocence.
 

You’re not correcting the record. You’re defending immunity as if it were proof.

 

Your "fallacy laundry list"?

Cute deflection – it's the classic tactic of someone dodging substance by playing armchair philosopher.

Ad hominem on Cohen? No, that's facts: The guy's a convicted perjurer who lied to Congress, banks, and courts – his word's worth less than Confederate cash.

False dichotomy? Where – I said Cohen's unreliable, not "saint or liar"; you're the one binary-framing "evidence or nothing." Whataboutism on Clinton? Not a pivot – it's exposing your selective outrage:

If association "indicts judgment," why the pass for 26 flights vs. Trump's one? Straw man?

You're building one by pretending I said "no charges = innocence" – I said lack of evidence means no guilt, policy or not.

 

"Cohen as evidence of Trump's operations"? Laughable – he's evidence of a bitter ex-employee spinning yarns for book sales and MSNBC gigs after getting fired for theft. "Crimes for Trump's benefit"?

Cohen pleaded to his own frauds (tax evasion, lying to banks) – the campaign stuff?

A plea bargain stretch where Trump's "Individual-1" is unindicted because there's no case, not just "DOJ policy" (Mueller cleared him on election interference).

Policy shields sitting presidents? Sure – but post-office, no charges stuck because Cohen's tales crumbled under scrutiny (jury warned he's an "accomplice with motive to lie").

 

"Trump hired a liar, then disowned him"? Pot meet kettle – every politico has fixers; Trump ditched him for incompetence, not "heat" (Cohen's own 2018 texts beg for pardons he didn't get).

Cross-exam "standard"? It nuked Cohen's credibility – judge called his testimony "questionable," and appeals are shredding the hush-money verdict as political theater.

Epstein? "Independent words/photos"?

A 2002 quote and '90s pics prove schmoozing, not crimes – Trump banned him in 2004 over rumors, no island visits, no victims naming him. "Long association"? Shallow and ended early – your "structure" is fanfic, not fact.

Bottom line: This isn't "immunity as proof" – it's zero evidence beyond a felon's grudge.

Supporters "don't care"?

We care about results: Borders secure, economy booming, peace deals. Your "boss pleads ignorance" trope? That's the Dem playbook for lawfare flops. Keep the fallacy bingo; facts win elections.

2 hours ago, FolkGuitar said:

The real question is: how many times are we going to forgive that Trump plays by his own rules and cover it up? 

We already know that he's a sex offender. That's been proven in court.

... but his followers just don't care. And THAT is the biggest problem of all for America, not Trump himself.

Hey, if it walks like a duck, and it talks like a duck...

Ducks talk? To you?

3 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

Yes it is

 

How can she be his step daughter if the man was not married to Mia Farrow and did not reside with her?

35 minutes ago, mikeymike100 said:

 

Your "fallacy laundry list"?

Cute deflection – it's the classic tactic of someone dodging substance by playing armchair philosopher.

Ad hominem on Cohen? No, that's facts: The guy's a convicted perjurer who lied to Congress, banks, and courts – his word's worth less than Confederate cash.

False dichotomy? Where – I said Cohen's unreliable, not "saint or liar"; you're the one binary-framing "evidence or nothing." Whataboutism on Clinton? Not a pivot – it's exposing your selective outrage:

If association "indicts judgment," why the pass for 26 flights vs. Trump's one? Straw man?

You're building one by pretending I said "no charges = innocence" – I said lack of evidence means no guilt, policy or not.

 

"Cohen as evidence of Trump's operations"? Laughable – he's evidence of a bitter ex-employee spinning yarns for book sales and MSNBC gigs after getting fired for theft. "Crimes for Trump's benefit"?

Cohen pleaded to his own frauds (tax evasion, lying to banks) – the campaign stuff?

A plea bargain stretch where Trump's "Individual-1" is unindicted because there's no case, not just "DOJ policy" (Mueller cleared him on election interference).

Policy shields sitting presidents? Sure – but post-office, no charges stuck because Cohen's tales crumbled under scrutiny (jury warned he's an "accomplice with motive to lie").

 

"Trump hired a liar, then disowned him"? Pot meet kettle – every politico has fixers; Trump ditched him for incompetence, not "heat" (Cohen's own 2018 texts beg for pardons he didn't get).

Cross-exam "standard"? It nuked Cohen's credibility – judge called his testimony "questionable," and appeals are shredding the hush-money verdict as political theater.

Epstein? "Independent words/photos"?

A 2002 quote and '90s pics prove schmoozing, not crimes – Trump banned him in 2004 over rumors, no island visits, no victims naming him. "Long association"? Shallow and ended early – your "structure" is fanfic, not fact.

Bottom line: This isn't "immunity as proof" – it's zero evidence beyond a felon's grudge.

Supporters "don't care"?

We care about results: Borders secure, economy booming, peace deals. Your "boss pleads ignorance" trope? That's the Dem playbook for lawfare flops. Keep the fallacy bingo; facts win elections.

 

"........economy booming..........."

 

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

 

 

3 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

That's splitting hairs. 

How is it splitting hairs? A statement was made that he was a step father. He was not.  Because you and others imagine that he was does not make it so.

7 hours ago, save the frogs said:

why would woody allen need to partake in this nonsense when he is already married to a much younger woman? 

 

His adoptive daughter if I do not remember wrong ? 

 

Edit note after google check: Adopted step daughter was it. That’s a kinky one. 

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