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Zelenskyy and Trump Move Toward Historic Ukraine Security Deal

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President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and Donald Trump are nearing a landmark agreement that could redefine the future of Eastern Europe. In a recent shift, the focus of negotiations has moved from immediate NATO membership toward a robust bilateral security pact between Ukraine and the United States.

 

A New Framework for Peace

While Ukraine has long sought the protective umbrella of NATO, the current political climate in Washington has prompted a more direct approach. The proposed deal aims to provide Ukraine with "ironclad" security guarantees, ensuring long-term military support and economic cooperation. This strategy is seen as a way to bolster Ukraine’s defenses while navigating the complexities of European alliances.

 

For Zelenskyy, the priority is clear: securing a future where Ukraine can deter Russian aggression without being left in a geopolitical "gray zone." Trump, meanwhile, has signaled a preference for deals that emphasize American interests and burden-sharing, suggesting that any security arrangement must also benefit U.S. industry and regional stability.

 

Navigating Diplomatic Hurdles

The path to this agreement is not without challenges. Critics worry that a bilateral deal might undermine the unity of NATO, while others question the sustainability of such a commitment across different U.S. administrations. However, proponents argue that a direct U.S.-Ukraine partnership provides the most immediate and credible deterrent against further escalations.

 

As the 2025 diplomatic calendar unfolds, the world is watching closely. The outcome of these talks will not only determine the sovereignty of Ukraine but will also set the tone for American foreign policy in the years to come.

 

Key Takeaways

 

Shift in Strategy: Ukraine is prioritizing a bilateral security pact with the U.S. as a more immediate alternative to full NATO membership.

 

Security Guarantees: The deal focuses on long-term military aid and deterrence to prevent future Russian incursions.

 

Geopolitical Impact: This agreement represents a pivot in U.S. foreign policy, emphasizing direct strategic partnerships under the Trump administration.

 

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/dec/29/volodymyr-zelenskyy-donald-trump-us-security-guarantees-ukraineprove

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  • Trump ha s  no idea what he is doing. He has the rain of a gnat and the morals of a rat. He will do a taco on the ukraine president as soon as he signs anything.

  • Putin hasn't agreed to any of this!

  • Trumps a moron, he’s after a Nobel Peace prize that’s all. He’ll sell out Ukraine to get it. You’ve must be living under a rock if you haven’t worked out everything he does is for his personal glory!

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Putin hasn't agreed to any of this!

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27 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Putin hasn't agreed to any of this!

So Trump should just give up peace efforts?

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18 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

So Trump should just give up peace efforts?

Trump ha s  no idea what he is doing. He has the rain of a gnat and the morals of a rat. He will do a taco on the ukraine president as soon as he signs anything.

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1 hour ago, Bacon1 said:

provide Ukraine with "ironclad" security guarantees

 

Wasn't there already an "ironclad" security agreement in place for the concession of the Ukraine agreeing to surrender it's nuclear arsenal?

No mention of whether or not Ukraine has to give up any land.

Not passing the smell test.

43 minutes ago, theshu25 said:

Trump ha s  no idea what he is doing. He has the rain of a gnat and the morals of a rat. He will do a taco on the ukraine president as soon as he signs anything.

Which of the 8 wars he ended(which the democrats could even dream of ending) was the most triggering for the liberal hivemind? If he ends the Thai/Khymer war again that will be NINE

 

🤣😂

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1 hour ago, Bacon1 said:

While Ukraine has long sought the protective umbrella of NATO, the current political climate in Washington has prompted a more direct approach. The proposed deal aims to provide Ukraine with "ironclad" security guarantees, ensuring long-term military support

 

So what is the difference between military security from NATO or from the US?

 

Oh wait, the answer is in the OP.

 

1 hour ago, Bacon1 said:

Trump, meanwhile, has signaled a preference for deals that emphasize American interests and burden-sharing, suggesting that any security arrangement must also benefit U.S. industry

 

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1 hour ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

So Trump should just give up peace efforts?

Trumps a moron, he’s after a Nobel Peace prize that’s all. He’ll sell out Ukraine to get it. You’ve must be living under a rock if you haven’t worked out everything he does is for his personal glory! The world would better if he stepped back and let the sane Europeans deal with it!

1 hour ago, HappyExpat57 said:

 

Wasn't there already an "ironclad" security agreement in place for the concession of the Ukraine agreeing to surrender it's nuclear arsenal?

No mention of whether or not Ukraine has to give up any land.

Not passing the smell test.

 

If you're thinking of the Budapest Memo, no.  That provided security "assurances," not "guarantees."

 

Guarantees are legal obligations, whereas assurances are aspirational virtue signalling.

 

Guess which delegation demanded that the wording of the final text be changed!

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Putin hasn't agreed to any of this!

Nothing to do with Putin. This, however, is interesting as the divide between the EU and the US widens. Trump wants a level of security for Ukraine, Trump also wants to draw Russia away from China and wants to trade with both Russia and Ukraine. I think this is another indicator of Trump wanting to pull right back from NATO. Putin will never agree to any backdoor article 5 arrangement for Ukraine so this maybe a more favourable solution. 

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3 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

This, however, is interesting as the divide between the EU and the US widens. Trump wants a level of security for Ukraine,

 

Trump wants to profit from the peace agreement, nothing else, nothing more

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10 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

Trump wants to profit from the peace agreement, nothing else, nothing more

To think this has nothing to do with Putin is delusional. Putin is using 47 as the useful idiot he is, and 47 is going to make as much money money as he can from the deaths of too many people, both Ukrainian and Russian.

3 hours ago, Bacon1 said:

For Zelenskyy

sorry, but this spelling seems silly to me.

that 2nd y is superfluous. 

 

1 hour ago, HappyExpat57 said:

To think this has nothing to do with Putin is delusional. Putin is using 47 as the useful idiot he is, and 47 is going to make as much money money as he can from the deaths of too many people, both Ukrainian and Russian.

Please elucidate. What does it have to do with Putin. How would a security agreement between the US and Ukraine benefit Putin?

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7 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Please elucidate. What does it have to do with Putin. How would a security agreement between the US and Ukraine benefit Putin?

Read my second sentence again for elucidation. That poor excuse for a president takes his marching orders from Putin. Always has, and to deny it is delusional.

2 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Which of the 8 wars he ended(which the democrats could even dream of ending) was the most triggering for the liberal hivemind? If he ends the Thai/Khymer war again that will be NINE

 

🤣😂

 

The 8 you claim he has ended already includes the Thai/Khmer conflict, which is on it's second ceasefire which means it hasn't ended so the magical.... mythical number remains 8.

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Anyway, Trump's sudden rapport with Zelenskyy at the gilded palace appears to have gotten Putin all squeaky bum. He has conjured up an overnight Ukrainian attack on one of his stately homes, and has said this action, denied by Ukraine, as grounds for Russia to totally re-examine what they have previously demanded or agreed. The man will keep moving the goalposts but unfortunately Trump knows farkall about any sort of football. 

54 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

sorry, but this spelling seems silly to me.

that 2nd y is superfluous. 

 

 

Actually it's Zelenskiyy which I believe is the Ukrainian way of spelling it. Like Kiev becomes Kyiv, Vladimir becomes Volodymyr, etc..

It may take two to tango, but Zelensky and Trump can make up peace agreements until the cows come home, but until those "peace agreements" align with Russian "red line" demands that Putin outlined in May 2024 (Ukraine demilitarization, respect for the ethnic Russian population including language and religion, neutrality of Ukraine as a nation, and acceptance that Crimea, Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson, and Zaporizhzhia are now part of Russia) then Russia will just continue the Special Military Operation. In April 2022 if Zelinsky had accepted the Istanbul Accords, then Ukraine would have given up a small section of the Donbass.  Now, as has been reiterated by the Russian President, if Ukraine wants to continue the fight, they will keep losing territory (Yeah I know - the Ukraine military is winning. Feel free to believe that fantasy - up to you). 
In 2022 Ukraine would have given up on part of the Donesk.  Now they will have to give up Crimea, Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson, and Zaporizhzhia as the citizens of those oblasts voted to join the Russian Federation.  If this continues Russia will no doubt gain Dnipropetrovsk, Sumy, Mykolaiv, and Odessa and then hold referendums to offer citizens in those oblasts the opportunity to join the Russian Federation. 

As much as pro-Ukraine proponents want to deny it, the reason this is happening is because of Ukraine oppression of ethnic Russians in Ukraine including outlawing the Russian language, Orthodox Russian religion, and ethnic Russia culture - and Russia just isn't going to allow that to happen. Secondly, was NATO's push to put its troops right on Russia's borders with Ukraine as a full member of NATO acting as its proxy spearhead to threaten the Russian Federation - and Russia isn't going to allow that to happen either.  Really, would the United States allow a Chinese, Russian, and Latin American military alliance to push right up the the US Southern border with Mexican troops amassing a military presence to threaten US sovereignty?  No, they would not. 

3 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Which of the 8 wars he ended(which the democrats could even dream of ending) was the most triggering for the liberal hivemind? If he ends the Thai/Khymer war again that will be NINE

 

🤣😂

Lol! It's now China supervising the latest peace negotiations! 🤣

 

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/asia/thailand-cambodia-ceasefire-china-trilateral-talks-yunnan-5740926

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2 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Which of the 8 wars he ended(which the democrats could even dream of ending) was the most triggering for the liberal hivemind? If he ends the Thai/Khymer war again that will be NINE

 

🤣😂

Can you please name the 8 wars the clown has actually stopped. The fool could not stop a runny nose.

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2 minutes ago, theshu25 said:

Can you please name the 8 wars the clown has actually stopped. The fool could not stop a runny nose.

Israel and Hamas.

Israel and Iran

Pakistan and India

Rwanda and the Democratic Republic of Congo

Thailand and Cambodia

Armenia and Azerbaijan

Egypt and Ethiopia

Serbia and Kosovo.

 

An incredible achievement im sure we all (some secretly) agree.

This is why "Peace" will never be allow to happen.  Peace = Loss of Revenues & Profits for Arms Manufacturers. 

So every time it looks like there may be a "peace agreement," "Defense" stock and indexes get hammered.  If Ukraine is resolved, then you can be guaranteed that a hot war will be fabricated somewhere else on the planet.  G-U-A-R-A-N-T-E-E-D 100%

Example:

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4 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

So Trump should just give up peace efforts?

What peace efforts..........🤫

 

Trump's chum Putin is foremost in his ambitions........😒

Unless somehow Ukraine can regain the upper hand and start pushing Russian forces back Putin is not going to stop or agree to any peace deal or ceasefire.

 

Just like any other bully Putin/Russia will only respond to strength which is why Europe must invest heavily and collectively build up its defences with or without NATO. Perhaps even a new European only military alliance excluding the US.

 

Not to threaten Russia but to ensure Russia wouldn’t even begin to consider any future aggression against its neighbours.

 

Russia might be a big country with 145 million people and think its all powerful but compared to Europe with 450 million and a GDP more than 10 times that of Russia its overrated.

 

Typically bully’s only pick on weaker opponents and avoid any conflict where they might end up getting a bloody nose.

 

It could be argued Trump is acting just like that with Venezuela at the moment.

 

If Venezuela were a lot more powerful and could fight back I doubt he would even consider it.

 

46 minutes ago, candide said:

Lol! It's now China supervising the latest peace negotiations! 🤣

 

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/asia/thailand-cambodia-ceasefire-china-trilateral-talks-yunnan-5740926

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Good. China should stop being an aggressive, revanchist power seeking to recapture its position in the world that last existed in medieval times.

Just now, Bannoi said:

Not to threaten Russia but to ensure Russia wouldn’t even begin it consider any future aggression against its neighbours.

Russia may not survive this war, the Russian Bear looming over Europe is a fantasy. They cant even beat the Ukraine.

4 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

So Trump should just give up peace efforts?

He may as well Putin is just playing Trump for the idiot he is.....:coffee1:

4 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Russia may not survive this war, the Russian Bear looming over Europe is a fantasy. They cant even beat the Ukraine.

 

I’m sure Russia will survive this war but its influence and economy will have been greatly diminished.

 

Russia is a very big country with huge natural resources and will survive though perhaps not as it is at the moment.

 

In a way it is too big and could maybe be better off broken up into smaller states or countries or regions with a different form of government.

56 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Israel and Hamas.

Israel and Iran

Pakistan and India

Rwanda and the Democratic Republic of Congo

Thailand and Cambodia

Armenia and Azerbaijan

Egypt and Ethiopia

Serbia and Kosovo.

 

An incredible achievement im sure we all (some secretly) agree.

 

There's something in the water over in Bangrak.

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