11 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

The woman was shot in cold blood not arrested. Does the federal law allow an enforcement agent to intentionally draw fire?

Yes.

3 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Why would I cheer on any boxing event, I don’t regard boxing to be a sport, I don’t agree with it and I don’t watch it.

A simpler explanation of your accusation is you made it up.

There is absolutely nothing in any statement I have made that can be rationally construed as ‘inciting violence‘ while unlike you I certainly don’t have a love of seeing violence against women.

As I stated above, the local DA and Minnesota AG have opened a murder investigation, whatever made you think I’m made to see the law being applied - Renee Good’s killer is about to get some of it.

The rest of your mouth froth isn’t worth responding to.

You are calling it murder before a trial and conviction.

You are asking for his name to be made public.

You are stoking up tensions amongst your unhinged antifa mates.

We all know what you are doing.

Be careful.

10 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

You are calling it murder before a trial and conviction.

You are asking for his name to be made public.

You are stoking up tensions amongst your unhinged antifa mates.

We all know what you are doing.

Be careful.

Hes just a screecher on the net, its the Politicians stirring up civil war thats the problem.

1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

Hes just a screecher on the net, its the Politicians stirring up civil war thats the problem.

He is inciting violence.

Of course Walz is doing it on a grander scale.

11 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

You are calling it murder before a trial and conviction.

You are asking for his name to be made public.

You are stoking up tensions amongst your unhinged antifa mates.

We all know what you are doing.

Be careful.

Anti-fascists? The vile and insidious organisation that FBI focuses on, and that has no organisation, HQ, members or stated goals?

Those monsters??🤣

5 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

He is inciting violence.

Of course Walz is doing it on a grander scale.

Every death of a useful idiot advances the revolution

3 hours ago, JonnyF said:

He leaned over the hood because she smashed him in the stomach with the bonnet/hood of her car.

Her wheels were pointed left when she started accelerating. They span. The ice saved him.

She tried to kill him. At least maim him. I guess it would get clout with her antifa mates while her whiney wife filmed it.

Unhinged. You see things normal people don't see.

26 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

You are calling it murder before a trial and conviction.

You are asking for his name to be made public.

You are stoking up tensions amongst your unhinged antifa mates.

We all know what you are doing.

Be careful.

There is no presumption of innocence requirement outside of the trial process.

The killer’s name has been made public.

You allege, without evidence, that I’m stoking up tension with, you allege, my ‘ANTIFA mates’ who you imagine to exist - they don’t.

Though to be fair to you I do except the tension you are referring to might be you yourself stressing out.

‘We all know what you are doing

Be careful’

I’ll be charitable and put that down to you being stressed out.

22 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

He is inciting violence.

Of course Walz is doing it on a grander scale.

If you believe I’m inciting violence, take it up with the moderators.

Don’t forget to provide them with your evidence.

20 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Every death of a useful idiot advances the revolution

"Squeeze, clutch".

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

ICE have the power to make arrests for violations of Federal Law. This woman was violating Federal law.

Check the law before you make claims that arent supported. What federal law did the woman violate? Ice cannt do traffic control . You dont apparently know the regs ICE operates under do you?

Execution. US style.

The people on here defending this obvious murder, I can only quote John McEnroe from his glorious days:

-YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS!!!

3 hours ago, blaze master said:

Rammed hit whatever you want to call it. The woman driving in the car came in contact with the man. She hit him with her car. There is no debate about that fact. The severity of the contact can be debated and talked about as well.

Saying lack of training is just your own bias. As posted already on AN the man has extensive training and experience.

Saying he should have stepped aside is great hindsight. It all happened so fast.

You are delusional

The killer’s ‘vehicle’ problems have only just begun.

He needs to beware the bus Trump and his administration will toss him under as this turns sour on them.

They’ve already released an incriminating video from the killer’s phone, very likely robbing him of the opportunity to assert his 5th Amendment rights.

They didn’t do that for his good.

Vile as his actions he has the right to a legal defense, if he has not done so already he should engage a lawyer who represents himself and only himself.

11 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The killer’s ‘vehicle’ problems have only just begun.

He needs to beware the bus Trump and his administration will toss him under as this turns sour on them.

They’ve already released an incriminating video from the killer’s phone, very likely robbing him of the opportunity to assert his 5th Amendment rights.

They didn’t do that for his good.

Vile as his actions he has the right to a legal defense, if he has not done so already he should engage a lawyer who represents himself and only himself.

It would be wise. Trump and his buffoons won't hesitate to turn against him, when and if the heat becomes too much for the republicans to carry.

But I doubt it will happen. This administration will hang on to their neverending lies. You Americans better wake up at the mid-election this year, and stop most of his/their nonsense and lies. America has turned into a third world country in less than a year, and has been a laughing stock for the rest of the world. You are better than this.

37 minutes ago, Dan O said:

What federal law did the woman violate?

Obstruction of a Federal Officer doing his duties. Want the statute?

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

ICE have the power to make arrests for violations of Federal Law. This woman was violating Federal law.

Wrong. Right from the get-go, the ICE agents had NO authority whatsoever. None. They did not have a warrant for Ms. Good for an immigration issue. They had no reasonable belief when they came upon the car that any of the occupants of the stopped car had an immigration issue requiring and authorizing ICE intervention. So, absolutely not their jurisdiction. The ICE agents were the ones breaking Federal law, specifically the 4th Amendment, by confronting the occcupants of the car with no warrant, and, of course, absolutely no justification for confrontation since they had come upon them randomly.

Back to the scene. There was, indeed, a stopped car on the street, partially blocking traffic. But, traffic, including the ICE agency car, could get around the car. Now, why is the car stopped? The driver might have had a medical emergency. The car might be stuck in the snow. The car might have had a mechanical problem. Any of these breaking 'Federal law'? I don't know. But, none of these issues pertain to immigration. Again, not ICE jurisdiction.

The ICE agents coming on the scene should have reported the stopped car to the LOCAL TRAFFIC POLICE, to have TRAINED traffic police deal with this local traffic issue. When all is said and done, this is all this initially was, a LOCAL TRAFFIC PROBLEM, which local traffic police resolve thousands of times a day all over America. MAGA is welcome to prance and dance and try to portray it otherwise but it started as a local traffic problem, nothing else. Nothing to legally involve ICE.

The ICE agents stuck their noses where they had no legal right to be and the result is an American citizen gunned down and killed. Americans in general, and ICE agents in particular, need to be reminded of the limited scope ICE agents are required to be operating under, but have way too often overstepped, as they certainly did in this case. You might want to take a look at my earlier post that re-posted an excellent summary I saw on Facebook regarding ICE agents and the legal limitations they are supposed to be following.

4 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

So the car wasn’t ‘accelerating’ to ‘ram’ anyone.

The agent had plenty of time to step to the side, he used it draw his weapon and shoot his victim in the face three times.

Yes, and with two of those shots from the side of the car, when he was clearly in no danger at all. Those two shots make it murder.

10 minutes ago, newnative said:

Wrong. Right from the get-go, the ICE agents had NO authority whatsoever. None. They did not have a warrant for Ms. Good for an immigration issue. They had no reasonable belief when they came upon the car that any of the occupants of the stopped car had an immigration issue requiring and authorizing ICE intervention. So, absolutely not their jurisdiction. The ICE agents were the ones breaking Federal law, specifically the 4th Amendment, by confronting the occcupants of the car with no warrant, and, of course, absolutely no justification for confrontation since they had come upon them randomly.

Back to the scene. There was, indeed, a stopped car on the street, partially blocking traffic. But, traffic, including the ICE agency car, could get around the car. Now, why is the car stopped? The driver might have had a medical emergency. The car might be stuck in the snow. The car might have had a mechanical problem. Any of these breaking 'Federal law'? I don't know. But, none of these issues pertain to immigration. Again, not ICE jurisdiction.

The ICE agents coming on the scene should have reported the stopped car to the LOCAL TRAFFIC POLICE, to have TRAINED traffic police deal with this local traffic issue. When all is said and done, this is all this initially was, a LOCAL TRAFFIC PROBLEM, which local traffic police resolve thousands of times a day all over America. MAGA is welcome to prance and dance and try to portray it otherwise but it started as a local traffic problem, nothing else. Nothing to legally involve ICE.

The ICE agents stuck their noses where they had no legal right to be and the result is an American citizen gunned down and killed. Americans in general, and ICE agents in particular, need to be reminded of the limited scope ICE agents are required to be operating under, but have way too often overstepped, as they certainly did in this case. You might want to take a look at my earlier post that re-posted an excellent summary I saw on Facebook regarding ICE agents and the legal limitations they are supposed to be following.

Obstruction of Federal officers. Look it up.

3 minutes ago, newnative said:

Yes, and with two of those shots from the side of the car, when he was clearly in no danger at all. Those two shots make it murder.

Absolutely so. If he was "rammed", how could he still be standing, aiming and hitting the woman in her head, even from the side window..

The ICE agent chose to lean into in the side front of the vehicle before he clearly understood that she was driving away. He had every possibility to move away from it, and did so, and he was barely touched by the car when she, as frightened as she was, drove away, with her wheels turned to the right, out of the way.

The agent clearly provoked the whole thing, and triggerhappy as he was, firing 3 shots, 2 through the side window. He was definitely not in any danger.

This will be classified as a murder in every court in the world. There was absolutely no reason to fire shots at all, and they did not even have mandate to do so in the first place.

1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

Obstruction of Federal officers. Look it up.

She's in a stopped car on the side of the road. Yes, it's partially blocking traffic. Is she obstructing Federal officers with her stopped car? No. And, as I said, her car could be stopped for a number of reasons. The ICE agents were returning to their office. They could easily have gone around her stopped car, which they should have done, as it was not their jurisdiction to stop and get involved. As I said, they can only legally confront someone with a warrant or a reasonable justifiction to suspect an immigration issue. Coming upon the stopped car randomly, they had neither.

By confronting Ms. Good with no warrant and no reasonable justification via an immigration issue, they were breaking the law and violating her 4th Amendment rights. This was initially a local traffic police problem, nothing more. ICE got involved illegally and the result was a dead American citizen.

Trolling post removed

@JonnyF Final warning, stop making false accusations about other posters and discuss the topic.

51 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Obstruction of a Federal Officer doing his duties. Want the statute?

Yep statute specifice to ICE agents and their official duties and authority. Not a general statute about a Federal Officer as it does not apply. Look at the regs and duties assigned to Ice agents. Dont post your normal twisted or deflection

59 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Obstruction of a Federal Officer doing his duties. Want the statute?

How old are you? Every adults know you don’t draw your firearm for obstruction.

1 hour ago, Eric Loh said:

How old are you? Every adults know you don’t draw your firearm for obstruction.

Every ones a car is a deadly weapon. Cops draw their weapons on traffic stops regularly.

1 hour ago, Dan O said:

Yep statute specifice to ICE agents and their official duties and authority. Not a general statute about a Federal Officer as it does not apply. Look at the regs and duties assigned to Ice agents. Dont post your normal twisted or deflection

An ICE agent is a Federal Law Enforcement Officer. Look it up.

Why do you post about legal matters you know nothing of.

1 hour ago, newnative said:

She's in a stopped car on the side of the road. Yes, it's partially blocking traffic. Is she obstructing Federal officers with her stopped car? No. And, as I said, her car could be stopped for a number of reasons. The ICE agents were returning to their office. They could easily have gone around her stopped car, which they should have done, as it was not their jurisdiction to stop and get involved. As I said, they can only legally confront someone with a warrant or a reasonable justifiction to suspect an immigration issue. Coming upon the stopped car randomly, they had neither.

By confronting Ms. Good with no warrant and no reasonable justification via an immigration issue, they were breaking the law and violating her 4th Amendment rights. This was initially a local traffic police problem, nothing more. ICE got involved illegally and the result was a dead American citizen.

Nice try. Unfortunately you are wrong on the facts and law.

8 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

An ICE agent is a Federal Law Enforcement Officer. Look it up.

Why do you post about legal matters you know nothing of.

Hahaha

Seems your the one struggling as they have a different duty reg and authority limitations. You cant just say Federal Officer as if the different agencies all have the same reqs and training and authorization. Take your own advice and look it up.

7 minutes ago, Dan O said:

Hahaha

Seems your the one struggling as they have a different duty reg and authority limitations. You cant just say Federal Officer as if the different agencies all have the same reqs and training and authorization. Take your own advice and look it up.

18 USC 111

(a)In General.—Whoever—

(1)

forcibly assaults, resists, opposes, impedes, intimidates, or interferes with any person designated in section 1114 of this title while engaged in or on account of the performance of official duties; or

(2)

forcibly assaults or intimidates any person who formerly served as a person designated in section 1114 on account of the performance of official duties during such person’s term of service,

shall, where the acts in violation of this section constitute only simple assault, be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both, and where such acts involve physical contact with the victim of that assault or the intent to commit another felony, be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 8 years, or both.

(b)Enhanced Penalty.—

Whoever, in the commission of any acts described in subsection (a), uses a deadly or dangerous weapon (including a weapon intended to cause death or danger but that fails to do so by reason of a defective component) or inflicts bodily injury, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.

(c)Extraterritorial Jurisdiction.—

There is extraterritorial jurisdiction over the conduct prohibited by this section.

Guess you are wrong, again. Looks like she was shot while committing a felony.