2 minutes ago, radiochaser said:

Have you ever shot a tire? I have. Damned bullet bounced back and nearly hit me!!

It's interesting how people who have never handled firearms assume they are so magical.

"Shoot out the tyres!"

"Shoot the gun out of the bad guy's hand!"

"Shoot him in the leg!"

Sorry, the world isn't an episode of The A-Team. Handguns are not that accurate and not that powerful. In the heat of the moment, aiming so well is impossible.

1 minute ago, Hanaguma said:

It's interesting how people who have never handled firearms assume they are so magical.

"Shoot out the tyres!"

"Shoot the gun out of the bad guy's hand!"

"Shoot him in the leg!"

Sorry, the world isn't an episode of The A-Team. Handguns are not that accurate and not that powerful. In the heat of the moment, aiming so well is impossible.

Hey, don't bring the "A-Team" into this. They couldn't hit a criminal with a bullet if their lives depended on it. In all the shows that aired, they never shot any one! .. Of course, that could be a good thing for someone. LOL

2 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

It's interesting how people who have never handled firearms assume they are so magical.

"Shoot out the tyres!"

"Shoot the gun out of the bad guy's hand!"

"Shoot him in the leg!"

Sorry, the world isn't an episode of The A-Team. Handguns are not that accurate and not that powerful. In the heat of the moment, aiming so well is impossible.

Like in this case.

3 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

It's interesting how people who have never handled firearms assume they are so magical.

"Shoot out the tyres!"

"Shoot the gun out of the bad guy's hand!"

"Shoot him in the leg!"

Sorry, the world isn't an episode of The A-Team. Handguns are not that accurate and not that powerful. In the heat of the moment, aiming so well is impossible.

As to shooting someone ... I read a story years ago (before the www) of two old men in a New York apartment building that hated each other. One day they got into an argument in the hallway of the building and each one of them started shooting at the other with revolvers, from a distance of 6 feet! They both emptied their 6 shot revolvers and reloaded two more times, emptying their revolvers after each reload.

Neither one manage to shoot the other, from 6 feet away after shooting 18 rounds each!!!

4 minutes ago, riclag said:

Fox News, teams up on the Minnesota Democrats , Walz and Frey.

Local officials are prematurely disputing the federal narrative without full facts.

Minnesota Dem leaders ,Gov. Walz and Mayor Frey are overreacting and irresponsible.

The ICE agent's shooting was justified self defense.

born raised and worked in the Minneapolis area most of my life, these two idiots are doing everything they can to further destroy what was once a great state. Frey is a wanabee Somalian, does everything he can to kiss up to them. Can't wait for these two idiots to figure out where the billions of dollars of fraud money went.

12 minutes ago, radiochaser said:

Have you ever shot a tire? I have. Damned bullet bounced back and nearly hit me!!

Should have used a .357, then............😂

And what do you think was happening to all those shots being fired.....🤫

If she successfully ran over the ICE Agent (like she was trying to do) they would all be celebrating his death.

4 minutes ago, transam said:

Should have used a .357, then............😂

And what do you think was happening to all those shots being fired.....🤫

Yeah, that might work. 9mm FMJ being a puny little boolit.

I might try it later (not really) after I pick up a Ruger SP101 .357 from the local gun store that is being held for me.

The shooting is being investigated by the FBI and the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension. News

https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/live-updates/minneapolis-federal-agents-protesters-clash-portland-avenue/

33 minutes ago, FinChin67 said:

If she successfully ran over the ICE Agent (like she was trying to do) they would all be celebrating his death.

Some people, those with empathy for our fellow humans, are saddened by unnecessary deaths. Unfortunately it looks like the MAGA's here are thinking: own fault, I don't care.

2 hours ago, novacova said:

Any normal law abiding person would stop and got out of the car when law enforcement approached and try to open their door, this assailant obviously had an adverse left political mental dysfunction in a confused state of reality, and resisted the police and chose to accelerate the vehicle in the direction of a cop who didn’t have the time and luxury to second guess the intention of the assailant.

Oh <deleted> me - now we have got an amateur psychiatric diagnosis to throw into the mix!

Riclag's damage control thread... 🤣

6 hours ago, bannork said:

If you can blow up boats on the open seas, if you can invade sovereign countries and kidnap their leaders, then its a piece of cake to murder a US citizens.

Recipe:
1. Claim you've seen the video
2. Claim that the ICE agent was "run over by a terrorist" and required hospitalization
3. Call the shooting victim a "Terrorist."
4. Claim her vehicle was a "terrorist weapon."
5. Ignore actual video evidence that no ICE agent was "run over" or even in danger from the driver who was trying to drive away.
6. Roll out DHS "barbie" to verify all of the government "facts" listed above.

or
Acknowledge the the US has become a fully functioning Fascist state, dictator and all.

I'm going for the latter.

2 hours ago, novacova said:

Any normal law abiding person would stop and got out of the car when law enforcement approached and try to open their door, this assailant obviously had an adverse left political mental dysfunction in a confused state of reality, and resisted the police and chose to accelerate the vehicle in the direction of a cop who didn’t have the time and luxury to second guess the intention of the assailant.

And I thought you were a Putin supporter...........😂

7 minutes ago, candide said:

Riclag's damage control thread... 🤣

Well, he's blocked every single poster who's not MAGA, so from his perspective this thread is a "tug" fest.😂

Vile.

3 hours ago, DonniePeverley said:

You've made your point. Why are you allowed to takeover a thread ?

I think he suffers from Leftyitus............🤕

Trump’s thugs slaughter their first American citizen in cold blood.

It will not be the last time ICE guns down an American.

ICE is very clearly set up as a paramilitary group answerable only to Trump and with a directive to intimidate Trump’s opponents.

There are numerous historical examples of authoritarian thugs employing these exact tactics.

5 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

Well, he's blocked every single poster who's not MAGA, so from his perspective this thread is a "tug" fest.😂

It’s resulted in him opening rant threads in which he engages himself in discussions.

2 hours ago, riclag said:

I saw the agent get struck by a car

You are referring to seeing the agent in your video in the op who remained standing normally after the driver sped off to his right. The agent who could pump off several bullets into the driver as she tried to escape the use of unnecessary lethal force? The agent who was then able to walk immediately down the street after his prey and help pull her body out the car like a sack of potatoes? Can you see this agent behind bars in a civilized normal society?

14 minutes ago, connda said:

If you can blow up boats on the open seas, if you can invade sovereign countries and kidnap their leaders, then its a piece of cake to murder a US citizens.

Recipe:
1. Claim you've seen the video
2. Claim that the ICE agent was "run over by a terrorist" and required hospitalization
3. Call the shooting victim a "Terrorist."
4. Claim her vehicle was a "terrorist weapon."
5. Ignore actual video evidence that no ICE agent was "run over" or even in danger from the driver who was trying to drive away.
6. Roll out DHS "barbie" to verify all of the government "facts" listed above.

or
Acknowledge the the US has become a fully functioning Fascist state, dictator and all.

I'm going for the latter.

It's disgusting how they lied about it. (Just like nearly anything else).

35 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Some people, those with empathy for our fellow humans, are saddened by unnecessary deaths. Unfortunately it looks like the MAGA's here are thinking: own fault, I don't care.

You would be wrong about that. I have empathy especially for her kids, who will grow up without one of their parents. It was tragic, unnecessary, and wasteful.

That killing — and the doubling down and absence of de-escalation from Trump — is the backdrop to a larger point that gets lost in the noise.
Trump’s response — defending the shooting — reflects an escalation he has no interest in stopping.
The stage is set for a repeat of BLM-era tensions.

Obama deported over 3 million illegals without this culture-war chaos of ICE and troops on U.S. streets.
He did it through courts and paperwork, mostly out of sight.

Trump isn’t chasing bigger numbers — he’s chasing spectacle.
Raids, uniforms, and troops are there to make force feel normal in everyday life.

The end game is power.
Once an armed federal presence is routine and unquestioned, it becomes easy to repurpose.
Immigration is just the excuse.

Once that’s accepted, the question is what he’ll use it for.

Trump has always admired authoritarian strongmen — especially those who rule by force, loyalty, and fear.

Looks like the Trumpster' will have his 9th Venezuela' 10th' war to stop very soon 🤔

1 minute ago, LosLobo said:

That killing — and the doubling down and absence of de-escalation from Trump — is the backdrop to a larger point that gets lost in the noise.
Trump’s response — defending the shooting — reflects an escalation he has no interest in stopping.
The stage is set for a repeat of BLM-era tensions.

Obama deported over 3 million illegals without this culture-war chaos of ICE and troops on U.S. streets.
He did it through courts and paperwork, mostly out of sight.

Trump isn’t chasing bigger numbers — he’s chasing spectacle.
Raids, uniforms, and troops are there to make force feel normal in everyday life.

The end game is power.
Once an armed federal presence is routine and unquestioned, it becomes easy to repurpose.
Immigration is just the excuse.

Once that’s accepted, the question is what he’ll use it for.

Trump has always admired authoritarian strongmen — especially those who rule by force, loyalty, and fear.

In November 11 months from now, we will know the true Americans and true USA.

If not something unfortunate happens in the meantime and there will be no elections

2 hours ago, riclag said:

I saw the agent get struck by a car

It's not what the videos available are showing. You're just an echo chamber of the current administration's lies...😄

Just now, Hanaguma said:

You would be wrong about that. I have empathy especially for her kids, who will grow up without one of their parents. It was tragic, unnecessary, and wasteful.

A direct result of a government thug needlessly slaughtering their mother.

It’s not so much tragic as the predicted outcome of putting an armed paramilitary organization answerable only to an authoritarian President onto American streets.

There will be more killings by ICE

and more glee wrapped in ‘Its the kids I feel sorry for’ from Trump’s supporters, foreign and domestic.

It was only a matter of time before someone was killed with activists and busybodies deciding that they should interfere with lawful immigration enforcement. I see this as an unfortunate event. Although I do not believe that the woman was trying to run the agent down, and was instead fleeing, because the video shows the vehicle wheels would take the vehicle away from the agent, the ICE agent was the one at risk and reacted based on what he experienced.

9 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Trump’s thugs slaughter their first American citizen in cold blood.

It will not be the last time ICE guns down an American.

ICE is very clearly set up as a paramilitary group answerable only to Trump and with a directive to intimidate Trump’s opponents.

There are numerous historical examples of authoritarian thugs employing these exact tactics.

What slaughter? Give your hysterical claims a rest. The agent reacted based upon what the thought was a vehicle coming at him. His line of sight did not show the direction of the vehicle wheels. This was preventable. Had the woman not engaged in an unlawful interference with an immigration enforcement action and had the ICE agent followed his guidelines, this death would not have occurred.

Has Trump issued the killer a pardon yet?

Just now, Patong2021 said:

It was only a matter of time before someone was killed with activists and busybodies deciding that they should interfere with lawful immigration enforcement. I see this as an unfortunate event. Although I do not believe that the woman was trying to run the agent down, and was instead fleeing, because the video shows the vehicle wheels would take the vehicle away from the agent, the ICE agent was the one at risk and reacted based on what he experienced.

What slaughter? Give your hysterical claims a rest. The agent reacted based upon what the thought was a vehicle coming at him. His line of sight did not show the direction of the vehicle wheels. This was preventable. Had the woman not engaged in an unlawful interference with an immigration enforcement action and had the ICE agent followed his guidelines, this death would not have occurred.

The slaughter of an American citizen in her car, obviously not interfering in anything other than the illegal attempt to detain her.