2 hours ago, cdemundo said:

We could probably say about most murder victims (as my dad used to say about crime victims) "if they had stayed at home they would be alright".

True enough. Still murdered though.

Your father may have been stating the obvious but was certainly not wrong, people are safer in their homes than out on "the streets"

As to whether or not it was murder, you are entitled to your opinion, but that is all it is, just your opinion, The final decision on whether it was "murder" will be made by the court

2 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

The fact is that people in cars only pose a threat in smaller than 1 in 10000 of cases.

The fact is , statistics like the one you quoted are meaningless, and certainly should not be used to reassure any law enforcement officers of their safety. The odds of a jackpot win on the UK lotto is 1 in 14 million, yet somebody wins it nearly every week

1 hour ago, Smokey and the Bandit said:

No she wasn't!

Manslaughter, (woman slaughter), loose cannon, he should have remembered that he was not back in Afghanistan................

On 1/9/2026 at 9:16 AM, Schoggibueb said:

On her Instagram account, Good describes herself as a "poet and writer, wife, mother, and terrible guitar player from Colorado, currently exploring Minneapolis." Good was in a partnership and was previously married to Timmy Ray Macklin Jr., a comedian who died in 2023 at the age of 36. Their six-year-old son is now an orphan.

The Old Dominion University, where Good graduated, writes: "It is with deep sadness that we say goodbye to Renée Nicole Good, a proud graduate who completed her English studies at the College of Arts and Letters in December 2020. Following Renée's tragic death this morning in Minneapolis, our thoughts and prayers are with her family, friends, loved ones, and the entire university community."

She was shot and killed by an ICE agent in Minneapolis on Wednesday, January 7, 2026. She was sitting in her car and the officer was trying to prevent her from driving away.

The usual course of action for police officers trying to stop people in cars is to shoot out their tires. The ICE officer, however, deviated from this standard procedure and shot the driver in the head. Three times.

He was standing beside the car for two of the shots, well out of the car's path. After killing her, he called her a "fakng birch," which was recorded on video. State of mind was rage, not fear.

Just now, Ebumbu said:

He was standing beside the car for two of the shots, well out of the car's path. After killing her, he called her a "fakng birch," which was recorded on video. State of mind was rage, not fear.

Absolutely, the guy has a serious issue, too much time spent shooting at folk......🤔

On 1/9/2026 at 3:11 AM, Effective altruism said:

She was a brave woman fighting ICE to keep the illegal aliens in the USA. A few years ago the left was pro law enforcement. Something changed.

Law enforcement includes arresting violators, next a fair trial.
NOT execution on the spot.

2 hours ago, Smokey and the Bandit said:

No she wasn't!

2 hours ago, Smokey and the Bandit said:

No she wasn't!

That depends, if the first round fired killed her then possibly it's not murder, however, if the second or 3rd shot did it becomes premeditated murder and there is already a precedent in law on this action.

51 minutes ago, Ebumbu said:

He was standing beside the car for two of the shots, well out of the car's path. After killing her, he called her a "fakng birch," which was recorded on video. State of mind was rage, not fear.

There is no evidence of the shooter calling her a "fu*king bit*h" after he shot her, this is a lie that all the Trump-obsessed haters are regurgitating.

There is evidence that one of the officers (not the shooter) said this.

1 hour ago, Artisi said:

That depends, if the first round fired killed her then possibly it's not murder, however, if the second or 3rd shot did it becomes premeditated murder and there is already a precedent in law on this action.

The claim that later shots automatically make it premeditated murder lacks support in the reported facts or legal commentary on this case!

2 hours ago, transam said:

Manslaughter, (woman slaughter), loose cannon, he should have remembered that he was not back in Afghanistan................

I see jurisprudence is not your strong point!

On 1/11/2026 at 7:38 PM, spidermike007 said:

He was not injured by the car, there's a small chance that the car bumped into him as he was trying to get out of his way, he had no business standing in front of the car, and Trump lied about him ending up in the hospital, so the majority of the story is pure nonsense and the man is a murderer.

Absolute nonsense as usual! Ross is not a murderer and he was injured and went to hospital!!

Just now, Smokey and the Bandit said:

Absolute nonsense as usual! Ross is not a murderer and he was injured and went to hospital!!

🤣..........What was it, powder burns..........🤣

You are another one that is easily fooled.........🤫

3 minutes ago, transam said:

🤣..........What was it, powder burns..........🤣

You are another one that is easily fooled.........🤫

The agent (later identified as Ross) "went to the hospital," was treated by a doctor, and was released that afternoon. he was described as injured from being "hit by the vehicle" and recovering at home with family. This was reported widely, including in CBS News, USA Today, Newsweek, Fox News.

I take it you can read??

4 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Everyone in a crowd of protestors is a threat, and thousands are "known".

Do you have anything that supports your claim that every ICE agent should be aware every person that is a known threat as part of their work assignment?

Their workdays are supposed to be spent apprehending illegal aliens, not dealing with "protestors" illegally interfering.

So with 255 million drivers and 300 millions registered vehicles in the US, 1 in 10,000 is over 25,000

But you do not support ICE doing it?

Donnie, figures like Yellowtail, but also ICE are making the U.S. ICE-cold, but not MAGA.
Do these sad figures really believe: 'A lot of enemy makes a lot of honor'?

Ask the world....

2 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

The fact is , statistics like the one you quoted are meaningless, and certainly should not be used to reassure any law enforcement officers of their safety. The odds of a jackpot win on the UK lotto is 1 in 14 million, yet somebody wins it nearly every week

Yeah dude! That might be because there are more people buying lotteries than people who are dangerous in a car.

5 minutes ago, Smokey and the Bandit said:

The agent (later identified as Ross) "went to the hospital," was treated by a doctor, and was released that afternoon. he was described as injured from being "hit by the vehicle" and recovering at home with family. This was reported widely, including in CBS News, USA Today, Newsweek, Fox News.

I take it you can read??

Smells just as <deleted>ty as the usual Donnie lies....

2 hours ago, Steven55 said:

Law enforcement includes arresting violators, next a fair trial.
NOT execution on the spot.

Protesting includes peacefully making your issue heard and seen.

NOT blocking traffic, assaulting people, damaging public and or private property or interfering with federal law enforcement.

4 minutes ago, Smokey and the Bandit said:

The agent (later identified as Ross) "went to the hospital," was treated by a doctor, and was released that afternoon. he was described as injured from being "hit by the vehicle" and recovering at home with family. This was reported widely, including in CBS News, USA Today, Newsweek, Fox News.

I take it you can read??

The bloke run out in front of her car to fire a shot through the screen................🤣

Then he moved to the side to finish her off with 2 shots.............🤣

Talk about being gullible, but you're definitely in line for Trump's Golden Long Nose Trophy ......🤣.................

Now if I were the shooter, I would definitely have developed a limp and demanded an ambulance, but he should have done that before walking with a skip in his step to look at the damage he caused from his kill.............🤫

4 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Everyone in a crowd of protestors is a threat, and thousands are "known".

Do you have anything that supports your claim that every ICE agent should be aware every person that is a known threat as part of their work assignment?

Their workdays are supposed to be spent apprehending illegal aliens, not dealing with "protestors" illegally interfering.

So with 255 million drivers and 300 millions registered vehicles in the US, 1 in 10,000 is over 25,000

But you do not support ICE doing it?

1. Then they should align with other law enforcement that with the job description to handle protesters. Not kill an unarmed person.

2. No need. Referring to number 1.

3. Are all 300 million at the same place at the same time?

4. Nothing wrong with ICE doing it. What´s wrong is the way they are doing it.

7 minutes ago, BerndD said:

Donnie, figures like Yellowtail, but also ICE are making the U.S. ICE-cold, but not MAGA.
Do these sad figures really believe: 'A lot of enemy makes a lot of honor'?

Ask the world....

And yet another well thought out response from the high IQ left.

Just now, Yellowtail said:

Protesting includes peacefully making your issue heard and seen.

NOT blocking traffic, assaulting people, damaging public and or private property or interfering with federal law enforcement.

Change the record, chap..................😂

6 minutes ago, transam said:

The bloke run out in front of her car to fire a shot through the screen................🤣

Then he moved to the side to finish her off with 2 shots.............🤣

Talk about being gullible, but you're definitely in line for Trump's Golden Long Nose Trophy ......🤣.................

Now if I were the shooter, I would definitely have developed a limp and demanded an ambulance, but he should have done that before walking with a skip in his step to look at the damage he caused from his kill.............🤫

Gee you sure like making stuff up!

Your claim that ICE agent Jonathan Ross "ran out in front of her car to fire a shot through the screen" and then "moved to the side to finish her off with 2 shots" is directly contradicted by multiple independent video analyses from major outlets, not supported by any footage.

4 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

1. Then they should align with other law enforcement that with the job description to handle protesters. Not kill an unarmed person.

2. No need. Referring to number 1.

A job description you made up.

Per you, law enforcement officers should spend all day memorizing the names and faces of every "known" person that CAN pose a threat. Do you have any idea how ridiculous that is? three million people on probation and 700,000 on parol.

Law informant should assume that virtually everyone is a threat until they know otherwise,

4 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

3. Are all 300 million at the same place at the same time?

Why do they all have to be in the same place at the same time?

Over 125 million people drive back and forth work each day. That's 250 million trips each day, just for work. One woman, interfering with federal law enforcing is shot and ICE is the Gestapo.

4 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

4. Nothing wrong with ICE doing it. What´s wrong is the way they are doing it.

What is wrong with the way they are doing it?

9 minutes ago, Smokey and the Bandit said:

Gee you sure like making stuff up!

Your claim that ICE agent Jonathan Ross "ran out in front of her car to fire a shot through the screen" and then "moved to the side to finish her off with 2 shots" is directly contradicted by multiple independent video analyses from major outlets, not supported by any footage.

He's not even able to make up his own lies. As a Trump-obsessed hater, all he can do is regurgitatewhat others say.

It's now clear that the killer (Jonathan Ross) murdered Renee Good by shooting her four times, not three. And then he called her a "f**king b***h", of course.

' Minneapolis FD incident report indicates that Good had four gunshot wounds, and paramedics found her pulse “inconsistent”'

https://www.ems1.com/patient-assessment/minneapolis-fd-incident-report-documents-renee-goods-condition-upon-paramedics-arrival

'Renee Good had four gunshot wounds, fire department report reveals'

https://www.startribune.com/renee-nicole-good-ice-shooting-injuries-incident-report-details/601565066

There is no evidence of the shooter calling her a "fu*king bit*h" after he shot her, this is a lie that all the Trump-obsessed haters are regurgitating.

There is evidence that one of the officers (not the shooter) said this.

1 hour ago, Smokey and the Bandit said:

Absolute nonsense as usual! Ross is not a murderer and he was injured and went to hospital!!

That has been completely debunked. It was a delusional Trump fabrication.

10 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

That has been completely debunked. It was a delusional Trump fabrication.

Of course, the only people that can be believed are Trump-obsessed haters.

How convenient

33 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

It's now clear that the killer (Jonathan Ross) murdered Renee Good by shooting her four times, not three. And then he called her a "f**king b***h", of course.

' Minneapolis FD incident report indicates that Good had four gunshot wounds, and paramedics found her pulse “inconsistent”'

https://www.ems1.com/patient-assessment/minneapolis-fd-incident-report-documents-renee-goods-condition-upon-paramedics-arrival

'Renee Good had four gunshot wounds, fire department report reveals'

https://www.startribune.com/renee-nicole-good-ice-shooting-injuries-incident-report-details/601565066

Through his hate-filled speeches, Trump has dehumanized protesters/Democrats, lowering the threshold for people to resort to shooting.

We saw the same pattern in Nazi Germany, where Hitler dehumanized Jewish people, removing any restraints among the Brownshirts.

A true president brings people together. Trump pits groups of citizens against one another.

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

Protesting includes peacefully making your issue heard and seen.

NOT blocking traffic, assaulting people, damaging public and or private property or interfering with federal law enforcement.

Blocking traffic is peaceful (there is no death penalty on blocking traffic). And she followed orders when she was summoned to move away. She was turning her wheel away from the officers (her car went the other way, as can be seen).
How do you feel about the security guard who shot Ashli Babbit, who was breaching into the Capitol? When you say Ross cannot be blamed, then you agree that this guard can also not be blamed (when a burglar breaches into your house, you have the right to shoot him, when you feel threatened).