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Leaked ICE Memo Says Forget 4th Amdt.

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23 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

i don't think so somehow , but dream on

never say never

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  • If they have to get a warrant for every one of the millions of illegals that they arrest, they'll never get finished. Some might claim that this IS an emergency situation requiring emergency powers. T

  • As usual, OP didn't read or understand what he's posting. Must have missed this part ... ... "Should the alien refuse admittance, ICE officers and agents should use only a necessary and reasonable amo

  • "If they have to get a warrant for every one of the millions of illegals that they arrest, they'll never get finished." The warrant is for entering private property, not for making an arrest. Hope thi

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25 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

And the Trumpeters seem to be infested with something either the same or similar!

Now Trump supporters are infested with lice ? What a profound and mature comment ,

23 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

Now Trump supporters are infested with lice ? What a profound and mature comment ,

I am so lad that you agree!

🥳partytime2

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Powerful.

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3 hours ago, BLMFem said:

hahaha, no, I never said that, hahaha

Great I'm finally glad you agree that all illegal aliens are criminals under the section quoted.

2 hours ago, BLMFem said:

That's right, Governor.

Fake news

2 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

Now Trump supporters are infested with lice ? What a profound and mature comment ,

You should just report crap like that instead of responding to their bait

2 hours ago, BLMFem said:

Powerful.

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Exactly what nationality is the alien kid supposed to be ? doesn't look very mexican and its obviously not meant to be Caucasian ( not racist enough of course)

where are we supposed to assume the parents are? Its not a black either ( that would be racist of course) so it probably has a father too , my guess is they're both out begging or selling crack Detain and deport all of them

24 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

Exactly what nationality is the alien kid supposed to be ? doesn't look very mexican and its obviously not meant to be Caucasian ( not racist enough of course)

where are we supposed to assume the parents are? Its not a black either ( that would be racist of course) so it probably has a father too , my guess is they're both out begging or selling crack Detain and deport all of them

What a stupid meme eh. Over 40 percent of ice officers are Latino or black.

Over half of border patrol is Latino.

ice got their warrants Nov 5 2024, so cry a little harder losers and take it up with open borders autopen Biden.

3 hours ago, blaze master said:

What a stupid meme eh. Over 40 percent of ice officers are Latino or black.

Over half of border patrol is Latino.

just lookin again , I suspect the kid might be "non binary" do you know what that means ?

All the more reason to deport it clap2

1 hour ago, Bday Prang said:

just lookin again , I suspect the kid might be "non binary" do you know what that means ?

All the more reason to deport it clap2

How is it that the Gestapo....which hates anyone or anything not white....allow almost half of their members to be non white.

On 1/22/2026 at 3:30 PM, BLMFem said:

The heroes of ICE continuing their stellar work. They're now arresting the children before they grow up to be gangbangers. Genius!

'5-year-old boy among four students detained by ICE, according to school leaders'

https://www.kare11.com/article/news/local/5-year-old-boy-among-four-students-detained-by-ice-according-to-school-leaders-mn/89-113e2490-282c-4e5d-a472-f5cf8f18a94b

"“ICE agents have been roaming our neighborhoods, circling our schools, following our buses, coming into our parking lots and taking our children. The sense of safety in our community and around our schools is shaken and our hearts are shattered," said Stenvik.

School officials say Tuesday afternoon 5-year-old preschool student, Liam Ramos, was detained by federal agents alongside his father as they were driving home from school.

“Why detain a 5-year-old? You can’t tell me this child is going to be classified as a violent criminal,” Stenvik says."

Alas you once again simply sprout the leftist line. Fact is the father who is in the US illegally fled ICE agents on foot abandoning his 5 yr. old son. ICE agents cared for the child in well below sub-zero temperatures.

12 hours ago, BLMFem said:

Being an illegal alien isn't a crime, so you're wrong. Maybe you should study the case laws.😆

Grok (AI):

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It's a civil offence which by law can result in deportation. You once again show just how disingenuous you are by truncating the full answer from Grok. Here it is.

No, simply being an "illegal alien" (more precisely, being unlawfully present in the United States without authorization) is not a crime under federal law. It is a civil violation, not a criminal one.

U.S. immigration law distinguishes between:

  • Unlawful presence (being in the country without legal status, such as overstaying a visa or remaining after an unauthorized entry in many cases) — This is a civil infraction under the Immigration and Nationality Act. It can lead to deportation (removal) proceedings, bars on future entry (e.g., 3- or 10-year bars), and other civil penalties, but it does not constitute a criminal offense on its own. Sources like the ACLU, American Immigration Council, USCIS, and legal analyses consistently confirm that mere undocumented presence is civil, not criminal.

  • Improper/illegal entry — Entering the U.S. without inspection at a port of entry, evading examination, or using false statements/documents is a federal misdemeanor under 8 U.S.C. § 1325 (first offense: up to 6 months imprisonment and/or fine; subsequent offenses can be felonies with up to 2 years). This criminalizes the act of entry, not ongoing presence.

  • Illegal reentry — Reentering or being found in the U.S. after a prior deportation/removal is a felony under 8 U.S.C. § 1326 (up to 2 years base, with much higher penalties—up to 20 years—if there are prior serious criminal convictions).

Many people who are unlawfully present entered legally (e.g., on a visa) but overstayed or violated terms, so they never committed the criminal act of improper entry. Even for those who did enter improperly, once inside and not prosecuted for entry, the ongoing unlawful presence itself remains civil.

In short: The term "illegal alien" is often used colloquially, but federal law does not make the status of being undocumented a crime in itself. Enforcement primarily occurs through civil immigration proceedings, not criminal courts (though certain related acts, like entry/reentry or working without authorization in some contexts, can trigger criminal charges). This distinction has been upheld in legal analyses and court interpretations for decades.

59 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Alas you once again simply sprout the leftist line. Fact is the father who is in the US illegally fled ICE agents on foot abandoning his 5 yr. old son. ICE agents cared for the child in well below sub-zero temperatures.

Shhh that kind of info is not needed. A 5 year old was kidnapped.

16 hours ago, Yagoda said:

But hey are you saying the courts have never spoke to administrative warrants?

AI Gemini:

In the eyes of the U.S. Supreme Court, an administrative warrant is a legal tool that allows government agencies to conduct inspections or searches for regulatory purposes (like health, safety, or environmental codes) rather than for criminal evidence.

While the Fourth Amendment still protects you from "unreasonable" administrative searches, the Supreme Court has created a unique set of rules for them that differ significantly from typical criminal warrants.

1. The "Administrative Probable Cause" Standard

The biggest distinction is the level of proof required. For a criminal warrant, the police need "probable cause" that a crime was committed. For an administrative warrant, the Supreme Court established a "flexible" or "lesser" standard in the landmark case Camara v. Municipal Court (1967).

NB the new ruling is solely a decision of how to interpret the use of administrative warrants by the DHS Office of the General Counsel -- and they ain't saying on just how or what they base this new determination only that it comes from Executive Order 14159. The new opinion says that, as of now, administrative warrant CAN serve as sole warrant for arrest

NB2 An administrative warrant is a warrant obtained from a judge by an administrative body to search for violations of administrative rules and regulations. https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/administrative_warrant

Sample Form I-205 https://www.ice.gov/sites/default/files/documents/Document/2017/I-205_SAMPLE.PDF

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On 1/21/2026 at 9:25 PM, KhunLA said:

As usual, OP didn't read or understand what he's posting. Must have missed this part ...

... "Should the alien refuse admittance, ICE officers and agents should use only a necessary and reasonable amount of forceto enter the alien's residence," ...

If the illegal alien is in site, answers the door, then it doesn't violate the '4th Amendment" as no search is necessary, and not different if they 'know' a criminal, or crime is being committed. They have probably cause to enter.

They can not search the property, looking for alien, but if the see them, that's probable cause. If they see the alien, then there is nothing unreasonable about entering to arrest.

From AI ... "The Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution protects people from unreasonable searches and seizures by the government, requiring law enforcement to have warrants based on probable cause, supported by oath, and specifically describing the place to be searched and items to be seized, safeguarding privacy in homes, papers, and effects, ...

...though it doesn't forbid all searches, only unreasonable ones....

It's a cornerstone of American privacy law, applying to physical spaces, personal interactions like stops, and increasingly, digital data." ...

As stated, 'alien refuse admittance' ... kind of means, there is no need to search, no 4th Amendment violation.

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ICE agents will lie just like their boss lied about pepper spray being used. The only reason she backed down is because of a video contradicting her. ICE goons have already seized phones that with evidence that exposes their lies. The phones mysteriously disappear.

23 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

ICE agents will lie just like their boss lied about pepper spray being used. The only reason she backed down is because of a video contradicting her. ICE goons have already seized phones that with evidence that exposes their lies. The phones mysteriously disappear.

And your evidence for this is?

'Horrific smear': ICE did not arrest 5-year-old or use child as 'bait,' McLaughlin says

McLaughlin identified the child's father as Adrian Alexander Conejo Arias, an illegal immigrant from Ecuador who was released into the U.S. by the Biden administration.

She said he ran from the scene as as agents approached him -- abandoning his child.

https://13wham.com/news/nation-world/horrific-smear-ice-did-not-arrest-5-year-old-or-use-child-as-bait-mclaughlin-says-minneapolis-minnesota-immigration-and-customs-enforcement-raid-illegal-immigration-governor-tim-walz-mayor-jacob-frey-investigation-probe

14 hours ago, Yagoda said:

So you are claiming not only that there are no cases about administrative warrants ever decided by a Court, but that unless the facts match any case would be irrelevant? Got it. Keep going, I haven't humiliated a Trump hater today.

You know how to use the Federal Reporter right?

If you want to know about other cases and outcomes then you read up on them. Stop trying to twist what Ive said so you dont appear a fool by reframing it to fit a feeble mentality.

The only one humiliated is the idiot that believes his own lies.

13 hours ago, BLMFem said:

hahaha, no, I never said that, hahaha

He loves to rewrite what someone says to fit his misguided ideas and ignorance.

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On 1/22/2026 at 2:15 PM, cooked said:

If they have to get a warrant for every one of the millions of illegals that they arrest, they'll never get finished. Some might claim that this IS an emergency situation requiring emergency powers. The Dems unlawful importation of illegals for political purposes can be classed as an invasion by foreign terrorists and criminals. What do you want? More executive orders?

Just cancel the whole Constitution because it’s an inconvenience to Trump’s masked paramilitary goons.

33 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

And your evidence for this is?

AI Gemini:

Expansion of Phone Seizures: Under the Border Security Act (2025) and new DHS guidelines, agents have expanded their authority to seize mobile phones even from "non-suspects" at border crossings and during raids. These devices are often processed using AI tools like "ELITE" or "Mobile Fortify" to map social and financial connections.

13 hours ago, BLMFem said:

OUT.OF.CONTROL.

The actual incident is at 0:40 seconds. Blink and you'll miss it. Paid activist resisting arrest. Sure doesn't seem like peaceful protest IMHO.

3 minutes ago, JerryM said:

AI Gemini:

Expansion of Phone Seizures: Under the Border Security Act (2025) and new DHS guidelines, agents have expanded their authority to seize mobile phones even from "non-suspects" at border crossings and during raids. These devices are often processed using AI tools like "ELITE" or "Mobile Fortify" to map social and financial connections.

Fair enough. Phones can be used in evidential proceedings. Would you now like to show evidence of phones "mysteriously disappear[ing]".

13 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Fair enough. Phones can be used in evidential proceedings. Would you now like to show evidence of phones "mysteriously disappear[ing]".

AI Gemini:

The Receipt (Form 6051-D): ICE is legally required to provide a Property Receipt. If you did not receive one, this is a violation of their internal protocol. This receipt is your primary "ticket" to getting the device back.

Data Extraction: If they have imaged the data, they may keep the physical device for months if it is part of an ongoing criminal investigation.

Transfer Issues: If a detainee is moved from one facility to another, property often gets lost or lags behind.

2 minutes ago, JerryM said:

AI Gemini:

The Receipt (Form 6051-D): ICE is legally required to provide a Property Receipt. If you did not receive one, this is a violation of their internal protocol. This receipt is your primary "ticket" to getting the device back.

Data Extraction: If they have imaged the data, they may keep the physical device for months if it is part of an ongoing criminal investigation.

Transfer Issues: If a detainee is moved from one facility to another, property often gets lost or lags behind.

Fair enough. Now provide evidence of this NOT happening and phones "mysteriously disappearing".

46 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

And your evidence for this is?

One such incident occurred a hundred miles away from where I live. One of my friends who was there told me what she saw. I am quite sure this is happening in other communities and witnesses are too frightened to speak up lest they or their loved ones are retaliated against.

11 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Fair enough. Now

Now time for breakfast. (Actually already had breakfast but that answer avoids the use of an expletive).

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