7 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

You are deliberately lying. The statue speaks for itself. Keep embarrassing yourself LOL. Please explain subsection (a) to the Forum, and tell us why you left out the qualifying language (which I bolded for you):

Civil penalties under this subsection are in addition to, and not in lieu of, any criminal or other civil penalties that may be imposed.

Then tell us why you deliberately sought to mislead this Forum.

You wont answer though, except maybe with a flame.

"Mislead the forum"...........🤣

27 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

If I have to spell it out for you I'm afraid it's time you should consider asking your doctor for one of Trump's "IQ tests".

Good luck!

i'm not asking you to spell anything out, No matter what my IQ, i am unable to read your mind, If you don't wish to tell me why you think the immigration authorities are active in Minnesota then simply don't tell me, Why waste your time attempting to insult me for asking a perfectly reasonable question

I personally think that they are in minnesota to detain and deport illegal immigrants, I'm assuming you "know" of a much more sinister reason

27 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

Whether he himself was involved is VERY debatable but he absolutely knew his big pal Epstein “liked them young” as he is quoted as saying and still kept contact with him knowing this.

The British ambassador to the US, Peter Mendleson also kept in contact with Epstein after he was charged and was forced to resign because of this.

Obviously too much for you lot to put a moral equivalent on Trump for the same thing. The least he should be doing is resigning as well.

I went to school with a guy who got banged up for shooting somebody, I kept in touch and went to visit him in prison several times, he's out now and I still speak with him occasionally Should I be punished for what one of my friends did

Anyway liking young women is not a crime and is perfectly natural , even when placed within "inverted commas"

You have nothing but tired rumours and insinuations

2 hours ago, johnnybangkok said:

But the vast majority of Somalis in Minneapolis are American citizens, he says,

They are also involved in industrial scale fraud , Its not just the illegal ones that are up to no good so why take the chance , one out all out , you know it makes sense , you just can't admit it in front of the other lefties

23 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

i'm not asking you to spell anything out, No matter what my IQ, i am unable to read your mind, If you don't wish to tell me why you think the immigration authorities are active in Minnesota then simply don't tell me, Why waste your time attempting to insult me for asking a perfectly reasonable question

I personally think that they are in minnesota to detain and deport illegal immigrants, I'm assuming you "know" of a much more sinister reason

Weeeell, one ICE bloke had execution on his mind, after a few seconds of innocent banter with an unarmed American, fired 3 shots to make sure she wouldn't get to pick her kids up from school..........😬

I wonder if he can sleep at night, or was it his hobby in Afghanistan.......

Now Trump's lot are trying to cover it up, but I am sure nobody is surprised about that.........

2 hours ago, johnnybangkok said:

From the article:

'Yet when Mark Bruley, the chief of police in Brooklyn Park, a suburb of Minneapolis, stepped up to the microphone at a press conference on January 20th, his distress was clear. He did not want to criticise all federal police, he stressed. But he then came to the point. Residents of his city, including American citizens, are being stopped and hassled on the street “for no cause” by federal agents. He called this a civil-rights violation; all of those who have complained are not white. It “has to stop”, he said.

According to his account, one of his own police officers was stopped while off-duty. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents boxed her car in. With their weapons drawn they then demanded her immigration paperwork (though she is a citizen). When she tried to record the incident, an agent knocked her phone out of her hand. The situation was only defused when they discovered she was a cop. They then left, although without apologising. “I wish I could tell you this was an isolated incident,” said Mr Bruley. “But in fact, many of the chiefs standing behind me have had similar incidents with their off-duty officers.”

Also from the same article:

'Jacob Frey, the mayor of Minneapolis, has his own theory for what is going on. “I speculate that what happened is that somebody high up in the Trump administration said ‘go to Minneapolis and arrest and deport a bunch of Somalis’.” But the vast majority of Somalis in Minneapolis are American citizens, he says, and so they are coming up empty. As a result federal agents are running around picking on protesters and people who look a bit foreign, many of whom turn out to be citizens.'

never has being stopped and asked questions by law enforcement officers been such a reason to whinge, Who cares what percentage of blacks or hispanics are questioned compared to whites, it does not matter If they were specifically looking for an illegal immigrant called , for example "pedro gonzalez" or "ling pong wing" It would be pretty stupid to be picking out white albinos or red heads for further questioning,

Just now, transam said:

Weeeell, one ICE bloke had execution on his mind, after a few seconds of innocent banter with an unarmed American, fired 3 shots to make sure she wouldn't get to pick her kids up from school..........😬

I wonder if he can sleep at night, or was it his hobby in Afghanistan.......

Now Trump's lot are trying to cover it up, but I am sure nobody is surprised about that.........

Thank you for you opinion, but to be honest I'm not in the least bit interested in your views, I was specifically asking somebody else for their opinion. I thought that was pretty clear, I was also hoping to avoid comments from those who feel the need to say something despite having nothing to say,

Massive fraud uncovered in Maine. Time to bring out the "ICE OUT" activists for distraction.

3 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

Thank you for you opinion, but to be honest I'm not in the least bit interested in your views, I was specifically asking somebody else for their opinion. I thought that was pretty clear, I was also hoping to avoid comments from those who feel the need to say something despite having nothing to say,

I did have something to say, go back and read it..........🙄

On 1/22/2026 at 10:42 PM, Alan Zweibel said:

Maybe soon you'll come to recognize that illegal aliens have a lower crime rate than do native Americans.

it that's true then prior to deportation, instead of detaining them first, send them to the nearest reservation ,where they can,be put to work , setting an example to those lawless redskins you mention, assuming the redskins can be persuaded to sober up for long enough

3 minutes ago, transam said:

I did have something to say, go back and read it..........🙄

nothing relevant to my request which was directed at another member specifically asking for their opinion, your opinion has nothing to do with it ,, Is that difficult for you to understand?

22 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

I went to school with a guy who got banged up for shooting somebody, I kept in touch and went to visit him in prison several times, he's out now and I still speak with him occasionally Should I be punished for what one of my friends did

Anyway liking young women is not a crime and is perfectly natural , even when placed within "inverted commas"

You have nothing but tired rumours and insinuations

Silly analogy that falls down immediately.

Are you running for POTUS, PM or some high government office? I’m guessing not, so obviously you hanging out with a murderer or attempted murderer doesn’t become an issue. However if you were trying to be POTUS then the standards go up (or should go up) as you are supposed to be setting an example to the population. Obviously I’m talking about morality and standards which most of you Trump fans don’t seem to care about probably because you don’t have any yourselves so I don’t expect you to understand what I’m talking about.

Our leaders SHOULD be held to a higher standard - and still hanging out with a peodo when you know he’s a peodo AND you’re now POTUS, shouldn’t be so easily forgiven as you lot are so very happy to do.

8 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Massive fraud uncovered in Maine. Time to bring out the "ICE OUT" activists for distraction.

And a couple of photos of some unwashed illegal urchins ( younger the better) to play for sympathy with, I think the hamas lovers have a large amount of stock doing nothing they could borrow their pictures, Will anybody notice , of course they will but its of no importance to them

2 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

Silly analogy that falls down immediately.

Are you running for POTUS, PM or some high government office? I’m guessing not, so obviously you hanging out with a murderer or attempted murderer doesn’t become an issue. However if you were trying to be POTUS then the standards go up (or should go up) as you are supposed to be setting an example to the population. Obviously I’m talking about morality and standards which most of you Trump fans don’t seem to care about probably because you don’t have any yourselves so I don’t expect you to understand what I’m talking about.

Our leaders SHOULD be held to a higher standard - and still hanging out with a peodo when you know he’s a peodo AND you’re now POTUS, shouldn’t be so easily forgiven as you lot are so very happy to do.

I care little for your morality or your standards, you need to understand that

3 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

I care little for your morality or your standards, you need to understand that

At least I have them.

9 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

At least I have them.

Game, set, match!

11 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

At least I have them.

Then you should be supporting ICE who are out arresting criminal illegal aliens, illegal aliens like kiddie fiddlers for example. Having said that so should the governors and mayors of the blue states and cities rather than releasing them back into the community.

19 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Then you should be supporting ICE who are out arresting criminal illegal aliens, illegal aliens like kiddie fiddlers for example. Having said that so should the governors and mayors of the blue states and cities rather than releasing them back into the community.

Obviously reading comprehension is not your strong point as I’ve already said that in one of my previous posts.

If it was just criminal illegals (to include kiddy fiddlers) then no one would have an issue but it’s not as is evident by the many, many videos and testimonies that say LEGAL citizens are also being targeted to include one who was fatally shot in the head.

So spare me the pearl clutching and the “will someone please think of the kids” nonsense that you lot all use to defend the indefensible. The job could easily be done with better oversight, better planning and at least some accountability when things go very wrong.

5 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

LEGAL citizens are also being targeted to include one who was fatally shot in the head.

Any LEGAL citizens (not sure what an illegal citizen would be) being arrested by ICE are being arrested because they're breaking federal laws. Two examples of this would be interfering in an active ICE operation and failure to obey a legal directive. As it stands though if I remember correctly it's less than 1% of all arrests and they get released unless of course they have made a very stupid decision.

On 1/22/2026 at 4:03 AM, Yagoda said:

So you have never studied the case law surrounding the fourth amendment and what would constitute reasonableness. Nor have you studied any case law surrounding the fourth amendment and administrative warrants. I guess in your world, case law is ridiculous when it conflicts with your screeching.

Neither have you,give it time it will happen meanwhile trump will follow his lawless playbook until stopped by the courts….its what he does it’s what he is,he’s no statesman or politician he’s just a lucky thug.

1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

Then you should be supporting ICE who are out arresting criminal illegal aliens, illegal aliens like kiddie fiddlers for example.

Yes, get the future criminals and gangbangers, and get them when they're young and scared and don't fight back!

1 hour ago, Tug said:

Neither have you,give it time it will happen meanwhile trump will follow his lawless playbook until stopped by the courts….its what he does it’s what he is,he’s no statesman or politician he’s just a lucky thug.

Translation: you cant answer either. Tell us how his playbook is "lawless".

3 hours ago, BLMFem said:

If you wanna go on and continue to embarrass yourself, be my guest!😆

Got it. You have been owned so you will just double down

18 USC 1325. Simple and clear language too. You lose.

3 hours ago, transam said:

"Mislead the forum"...........🤣

Is he correct? Is illegal entry a crime? Can you answer?

2 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

Thank you for you opinion, but to be honest I'm not in the least bit interested in your views, I was specifically asking somebody else for their opinion. I thought that was pretty clear, I was also hoping to avoid comments from those who feel the need to say something despite having nothing to say,

Someone else who believes that an open forum is a venue for private conversations.

25 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

Yes, get the future criminals and gangbangers, and get them when they're young and scared and don't fight back!

I have pointed out previously that the father of this kid did a runner from ICE abandoning his son in the car they were in. ICE actually attempted to hand over the kid to the mother who refused to take custody of the child. ICE agents even took the kid to a drive-thru for some food.

5 hours ago, Hawaiian said:

Birds of a feather flock together.

Yes politicians. All of them.

Example....remember when the Clinton's invited Trump to their daughters wedding. Ya I do too.

10 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

I have pointed out previously that the father of this kid did a runner from ICE abandoning his son in the car they were in. ICE actually attempted to hand over the kid to the mother who refused to take custody of the child. ICE agents even took the kid to a drive-thru for some food.

They used the kid as bait to try to draw the mother out of the house.

Vermin.

11 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

They used the kid as bait to try to draw the mother out of the house.

Vermin.

Really? I guess you're basing this on what MSM is saying. What they didn't say was the father ran off abandoning his child or that the mother wouldn't take custody of the kid. Using the child as bait has been strongly refuted but I guess those that believe what MSM tell them would believe he was used as bait.

ICE disputed that claim, saying the agency has never “used a child as bait.”

“My officers did everything they could to reunite him with his family,” said Marcos Charles, the acting executive associate director of ICE Enforcement and Removal Operations.

DHS said the father “abandoned” his child when agents tried to apprehend him. The agency also said officers “took care of the child, got him McDonald’s and played him his favorite music to comfort him.”

Agents took the boy with them after his father told officers he wanted Liam to stay with him, according to DHS.

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/01/23/us/liam-conejo-ramos-ice-wwk#:~:text=The%20Department%20of%20Homeland%20Security,father%20legally%20entered%20the%20US.