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I am in desperate need of a T-1000 online UPS…!!!

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Is there no way to have a fuse protection in the mains lines fuse box that could be some kind of a differential 30 mAmp switch or similar ??

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    You are really not thinking OUTSIDE the BOX, it seems.... YOLO!!!!!

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18 minutes ago, SingAPorn said:

Is there no way to have a fuse protection in the mains lines fuse box that could be some kind of a differential 30 mAmp switch or similar ??

There is a way....and...

Someday, i will TOTALLY rewire this house where I live....but....

MEANWHILE, I will continue to enjoy the TINGLE....and I DO often feel this tingle, when barefoot.

In order to rewire this house, the way it should be....I might require about Bt.20,000, or a little bit more.

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PLUS: 30 Amperes is nowhere near enough for me. I need at least 70 amps, incoming...for my daily energy use...at times, during peak usage.

This is NOT Tokyo.

This is Thailand.

So, we will feel the tingle, and consider ourselves lucky to feel the stimulation.

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23 minutes ago, SingAPorn said:

Is there no way to have a fuse protection in the mains lines fuse box that could be some kind of a differential 30 mAmp switch or similar ??

Even with the 30mA breaker, at the mains, as you suggest..still...the incoming power is dirty, and not pure sine-wave...so...

You would still require an ONLINE UPS, of this nature, in order to isolate your electronics from the dirty grid.

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Anyway...as stated above: I am very satisfied with the Cyber UPS....especially for the very low cost and high quality, and good engineering, especially support for LINUX...

2 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

There is a way....and...

Someday, i will TOTALLY rewire this house where I live....but....

MEANWHILE, I will continue to enjoy the TINGLE....and I DO often feel this tingle, when barefoot.

In order to rewire this house, the way it should be....I might require about Bt.20,000, or a little bit more.

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PLUS: 30 Amperes is nowhere near enough for me. I need at least 70 amps, incoming...for my daily energy use...at times, during peak usage.

This is NOT Tokyo.

This is Thailand.

So, we will feel the tingle, and consider ourselves lucky to feel the stimulation.

30 mili amps is the resistance for the differential switch that put's the lines off in case of a surge. Nothing to do with the load used per line and per appliance. Do change your lines fuse box asap as if it's old, and you use gear that drains heavy current loads, it may not be safe. If you have induction cooking range, do change the wires as the draw of these cooking ranges is around 7000 W and the older generation of electrical wiring just cannot handle it for ever.

But I am no specialist. Just repeating here what my electrician told me recently. All the best.

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1 minute ago, SingAPorn said:

30 mili amps is the resistance for the differential switch that put's the lines off in case of a surge.

Yes.

This is a known known.

We use them, for example, with water heaters for showers, etc.

They are a must.

Just now, GammaGlobulin said:

Yes.

This is a known known.

We use them, for example, with water heaters for showers, etc.

They are a must.

Do you have one differential per line ?!! That's great if so. Or do you have only one differential for the entire line of fuses ?

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36 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

I wouldn't let you into any bar as you would bore the @rse of all the customers

I do not find your comments, in any way, boring.

I enjoy your comments.

But, you already know this.

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4 minutes ago, SingAPorn said:

Do you have one differential per line ?!! That's great if so. Or do you have only one differential for the entire line of fuses ?

Garbage in...Garbage out

I know that this is what you are talking about.

But, you might have thought that I did not know.

Right?

Just count the electrons.

1 minute ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Garbage in...Garbage out

I know that this is what you are talking about.

But, you might have thought that I did not know.

Right?

Not really. Was just wondering how you did your future grid, as to get some ideas, as it's always good to check out with others on their considerations and make good use of their experience. As I have seen places with fuse boxes having an individual differential for the direct lines that go to the heavy appliances. Was wondering if it's necessary to have so many.

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6 minutes ago, SingAPorn said:

Not really. Was just wondering how you did your grid, as to get some ideas, as it's always good to check out with others how they do such things and make good use of their experience.

Sorry.

Thank you for your clarification.

Please understand that this is a fairly old house. As such, there is probably about 25-years of ancient wiring above the ceiling, up in the "attic".

This wiring has never been planned, as a whole, to work in concert.

Instead, if you were to look up there, then you would see nothing but a COBWEB of random wires.

Therefore, as I think I stated above: Really, the only way would be to remove the old wiring, and then start again, from scratch.

This might cost about Bt.25,000.00, presumably.

This must be done.

The wiring of the entire house is not properly grounded.

There are up to THREE separate ground points...(that I know of).

This is not the optimal circumstance...haha....

In the house where I lived, previously, there were two separate power sources, one from the street grid, and another from some other outside transformer.

Total mishmash.

The ONLY solution is to remove all wiring and begin from the beginning.

This will be a good project for a rainy day...but...maybe...

Not during this coming Rainy Season, this April.

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Here is a review from Australia re this Cyber thing:

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He says: NON-STOP Noise

Well, it's possible.

Must wait until things calm down a bit, maybe.

There must be a way to control the fan through the data cable when connected to the computer.

Who knows.
IDK....

However, yes, it is noisy at the start, probably about 55dB, as I mentioned above, earlier....

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8 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

However, yes, it is noisy at the start, probably about 55dB, as I mentioned above, earlier....

I am not the only one who thinks so....and....

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YES, very good idea.
I will probably replace the fan.

The fan is NOISY as all get-out!!!!

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Me thinks:

The bloom is off the rose, now.....

Perhaps time to think of, say... Eaton

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On 1/30/2026 at 7:28 PM, GammaGlobulin said:

FINAL FINAL NOTE: When I save up enough money....I will buy this SAME CYBER unit to connect to one of my other computers, and i5 desktop. But, I will not be able to afford this for about six more months, I predict. I like the fact that this company cares about Linux, and they seem to support Linux. This is very important to me, of course....

No I will not.

I will buy an EATON, instead.

I will not even use the Cyberpower in my house at the moment.

The batteries will not hold a charge under no load conditions.

Hopefully, a good resolution is in the offing.

Check out Zircon UPS work fine and battery replacements are easy to do.

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You need an "online - double conversion" UPS. They are the most expensive type of UPS out of the three types of UPS available, but still affordable if you only need a small one for quick controlled shutdown.

Thailand has two pin plug power outlets, thus, no earth. If you are serious about protecting your UPS and computer, an earth wire to earth rod should be added, which can not be done if you are living in a condo.

The UPS should be able to clamp a reasonable surge without an earth, but it may sacrifice itself to protect the computer.

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2 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

You need an "online - double conversion" UPS. They are the most expensive type of UPS out of the three types of UPS available, but still affordable if you only need a small one for quick controlled shutdown.

Thailand has two pin plug power outlets, thus, no earth. If you are serious about protecting your UPS and computer, an earth wire to earth rod should be added, which can not be done if you are living in a condo.

The UPS should be able to clamp a reasonable surge without an earth, but it may sacrifice itself to protect the computer.

I will drill throught he wall in the house, then add a ground wire to earth, using a copper stake in the ground outside.

But, the first task will be to return the CyberPower unit, and then try to by an EATON, which I have read is not bad.

a 1000VA unit can be had for about Bt.10000.00, if I am not mistaken.

But, returning the CyberPower unit is not going to be fun.

Shopee is such a hassle, it seems.

3 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

I will drill throught he wall in the house, then add a ground wire to earth, using a copper stake in the ground outside.

But, the first task will be to return the CyberPower unit, and then try to by an EATON, which I have read is not bad.

a 1000VA unit can be had for about Bt.10000.00, if I am not mistaken.

But, returning the CyberPower unit is not going to be fun.

Shopee is such a hassle, it seems.

What's so bad about the CyberPower UPS?

They are cheap, so why not just keep it for some blackout protection? Eg. charge phone, run a laptop for a movie, some lighting, music through blue tooth speaker etc.

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20 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

What's so bad about the CyberPower UPS?

They are cheap, so why not just keep it for some blackout protection? Eg. charge phone, run a laptop for a movie, some lighting, music through blue tooth speaker etc.

I am not returning it due to any inherent factory design problem.

I am ONLY returning it due to an apparent batter problem with a completely new unit.

IF there were not battery problem, then I would, of course, not return it.

Returning something like this is FAR MORE PROBLEM than it is worth.

I would keep the unit, as you say.

My guess is that the battery is not holding a charge for one of several reasons, perhaps due to storage uncharged in a hot warehouse, or something.

I have tested it by checking how long it takes to lose charge from a fully charged state under NO LOAD conditions.

I am very unhappy that I am now in this postion of having to return something to one of these online stores, for sure.

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9 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

I have tested it by checking how long it takes to lose charge from a fully charged state under NO LOAD conditions.

In point of fact: The battery of this unit has lost 40-percent of its charge, going from showing 100-percent level to showing 60-percent BAT level, in exactly 12 hours...and while the unit was NOT PLUGGED into the mains, and while there was NO LOAD, and while the machine was COMPLETELY POWERED OFF.

My assumption is that this battery will not take a charge, and it required about 12 hours of charging, just to get the display to read 100%.

However, is this battery really fully charged? No.

A lead-acid battery does not go from 100% to 60% in 12 hours, with no load, and the unit completely powered off.

What a disaster.

And, I don't think much of this unit or the supplier, just from a safety and reliability perspective.

Sounds to me like they need to re-think their system to focus on RELIABILITY, and soon.

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I must begin, again, from the beginning:

Anyone here know where I can buy an EATON UPS???

I can do with a 1000VA.

But, a 2000VA would also be good.

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I am on a rather limited budget for this computer power supply unit.

I might even accept a refurbished unit....but only a reliable one.

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If anyone here reading my words knows where to buy the EATON 9e 20001 at some deep discount, or can help me out...

Please PM me. Thank you.

I have already wasted just over Bt.11,000 on the CyberPower, due to a bad battery on delivery.

I will only buy trusted suppliers, from here on in.

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But, I think that I would like to buy EATON, if I can unload CyberPower.

My budget is about Bt.10,000 to Bt.13,000.

Let me know, via PM, if you might be able to help this POOR fool....

Thank you!!!

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Just a few notes concerning why the EATON might be better...but you can decide....

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So, I do agree: I would rather buy a unit made in New Jersey, or the Tri-State Area, if I could.....

And, speaking of this area, the area in the Tri-State, we all know that Bruce is stronger than most....

I love New Jersey.

And, ....

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BUT, the headquarters seem to be in Dublin, Ireland....!!!!

This is a PLUS for me, since I love Irish authors.....and....all books about Ireland.

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Anybody know where I can buy an EATON UPS for a very low price, but completely new, and with low risk of being cheated, again?

Thank you.

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Well: Just besides the above, I was delivered a unit with a batter that could not hold a charge. So....

I will not fool around, again.

I will go with EATON, or some unit which is similar in industrial reliability, and which has a reputation for reliability in the server industry.

Wouldn't you?

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AND, Folks...let us be crystal clear, here....

When we talk about DOUBLE CONVERSION, we are talking, obviously, about....

AC-to-DC-to AC......

Or, as I like to put it:

AC-DC...and you know what I'm talking about......

I'm back, Mama...

I am dumping Cyber....and opting for EATON....

Great Move...IMHO....

Back, Mama.....

If you prefer Eaton, go to their US or Australia websites. Go to support and e-mail them your requirements and ask for their recommendation for a quiet UPS (available in TH) suitable for a home office environment. I get the feeling you are getting caught up looking at units more powerful than you really need, designed for server rooms where quiet operation is not a priority.

For home use, a 650 or 750 does the job of allowing you time to save your work if the power goes out, 1000VA tops, unless you have a ton of gear. If there is an extended local power outage, I just shut down my desktop and go on to my laptop using my wi-fi hotspot. I've used a few different UPS models over the years and never had an issue with noise. For me the must-have feature in Thailand is AVR, to cope with fluctuating local power. Next time you are in a bank, department store or hospital, try to see the brands they are using. Often they will be using common local brands, nothing enormous, nothing expensive.

Years ago the two-storey house we were living in had a water pump that needed replacing. Clever me decided that going a few levels more powerful would improve the water pressure to the top floor. While it did, it was noisy as. Should have kept to a similar spec the builder used. We did eventually solve the problem by upgrading the pipes. In other words, why buy a Mack Truck when all you need is a Toyota Corolla.

On 2/1/2026 at 8:42 PM, GammaGlobulin said:

I am not returning it due to any inherent factory design problem.

I am ONLY returning it due to an apparent batter problem with a completely new unit.

IF there were not battery problem, then I would, of course, not return it.

Returning something like this is FAR MORE PROBLEM than it is worth.

I would keep the unit, as you say.

My guess is that the battery is not holding a charge for one of several reasons, perhaps due to storage uncharged in a hot warehouse, or something.

I have tested it by checking how long it takes to lose charge from a fully charged state under NO LOAD conditions.

I am very unhappy that I am now in this postion of having to return something to one of these online stores, for sure.

Be less hassle by just slotting in a fresh battery.

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2 hours ago, VR333 said:

I get the feeling you are getting caught up looking at units more powerful than you really need, designed for server rooms where quiet operation is not a priority.

For home use, a 650 or 750 does the job of allowing you time to save your work if the power goes out, 1000VA tops, unless you have a ton of gear.

Thank you.

And, yes, you are correct that I worry about this, as well.

I need only enough time to shut-down all computers "gracefully".

Therefore, I do not need much battery storage.

But, also, I will be connecting 2 computers and 4 monitors to one UPS.

The wattage needed to run these 6 is probably around 800 Watts, total.

I will shut all down within 4 or 5 minutes after the first power outage.

As well, I might use up to about 1000 Watts at any given point between the 6 devices connected to this one UPS.

I am not interested in buying more UPS than I need.

But, I also worry that 1000 Watts might not be sufficient, then percent of the time.

So, probably the more expensive UPS unit is warranted.

I do not want to buy, and then learn that I have underestimated.

At present, I am using 2 APC bricks, and these are not online units.

Only true online units are satisfactory for use locally, given the grid conditions.

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