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Cheating on Your Partner: Does it Lead to Better Sex?

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9 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Older vows has this, until people found out it was the women being too subservient to their men. That doesn't mean the man loses his place as the family leader, but the woman isn't as much a slave as a real partner. Misogyny happens because some men think women are beneath them in all ways.

I remember my first wife (devout Methodist) insisting we had a church wedding, but not wanting the word OBEY in the ceremony. I said I was OK with following her religion, but not if she was going to pick and choose the bits she liked out of her religion.

We could do the church wedding according to her faith, or marry as a government contract, or just live together.

PS. I believe almost every person I've ever encountered is beneath me, no misogyny here!

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  • blaze master
    blaze master

    Sex with a long term partner. Hahaha good one. Not tonight hunny I have a headache.

  • BritManToo
    BritManToo

    How did you get to judge the value of other cultures? Judge not, lest ye be judged. As for Rome, it fell when it allowed barbarians to join as citizens, a little like the process our home countries a

  • Harrisfan
    Harrisfan

    You need to see a therapist. What strangers do in their private lives has nothing to do with you.

8 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Hmmmmm,

My Christian upbringing among Catholics, Baptists and Anglicans all said men were in charge and women were to be subservient. I can't remember any Priest, Vicar or Minister telling me women were equals.

Even Christian wedding vows tell them to OBEY us.

This is AI but sums it up well...........Religious/Traditional Views: In some Christian interpretations, Ephesians 5:22-24 and similar verses call for wives to submit to their husbands' leadership, comparing it to the church's submission to Christ, though this is often framed as a voluntary, respectful, and mutual relationship rather than forced subservience.

  1. Modern/Egalitarian Views: The prevailing modern view, supported by human rights principles, emphasizes that both men and women deserve equal status, autonomy, and partnership in relationships.

  2. Contextual Nuances: Some perspectives argue that submission, in a healthy context, is a, "race to the bottom" in serving one another, while others strictly reject the notion, viewing it as harmful and archaic. .

2 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I remember my first wife (devout Methodist) insisting we had a church wedding, but not wanting the word OBEY in the ceremony. I said I was OK with following her religion, but not if she was going to pick and choose the bits she liked out of her religion.

We could do the church wedding according to her faith, or marry as a government contract, or just live together.

PS. I believe almost every person I've ever encountered is beneath me, no misogyny here!

Here, this explains a little why you think that way.............https://www.healthline.com/health/mental-health/superiority-complex.

32 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

None of you business really.

None of my business either, I don't stalk my wife, she can do what she likes with whom she likes.

I do reserve the right to withdraw her funding though.

14 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Here, this explains a little why you think that way.............https://www.healthline.com/health/mental-health/superiority-complex.

No I really was superior, in the top 0.01% of the world population.

17 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

This is AI but sums it up well...........Religious/Traditional Views: In some Christian interpretations, Ephesians 5:22-24 and similar verses call for wives to submit to their husbands' leadership, comparing it to the church's submission to Christ, though this is often framed as a voluntary, respectful, and mutual relationship rather than forced subservience.

  1. Modern/Egalitarian Views: The prevailing modern view, supported by human rights principles, emphasizes that both men and women deserve equal status, autonomy, and partnership in relationships.

  2. Contextual Nuances: Some perspectives argue that submission, in a healthy context, is a, "race to the bottom" in serving one another, while others strictly reject the notion, viewing it as harmful and archaic. .

Nuns are 'wives of Christ', if your religion considered women equals why aren't monks called 'husbands of Christ'?

According to the latest Epstein releases, Bill got a dose that he passed onto Melinda. Jeffery suggested ways to slip her some antibiotics on the sly.

And now she's got her own charity...

So it appears to be rather hit and miss whether a side piece improves performance, not to mention finances.

3 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Nuns are 'wives of Christ', if your religion considered women equals why aren't monks called 'husbands of Christ'?

Throughout time there have been many people, some of them using religion as a tool, to degrade and kill others. Psychology has shown this to be the various ways humans think, all because of their upbringing as children. Some older practices are medieval, and some are solid. Some come from the word of God, and some are misinterpreted.

16 hours ago, blaze master said:

Sex with a long term partner. Hahaha good one.

Not tonight hunny I have a headache.

I guess you lack experience.

22 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

You're the one, from all your actions here, which I'm sure correlate with how you treat people in the outside world. Of course what strangers do in their private lives isn't what I see, but that behavior continues until more see it for what it is.

Disrespect, just like you did just now, thinking someone who's obviously far more educated than you on psychology needs a therapist. I could recommend one for you, but the fact remains, this is how you've been all your life, and there is no cure.

Your education is below mine. You are a year 12 boy.

5 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Throughout time there have been many people, some of them using religion as a tool, to degrade and kill others. Psychology has shown this to be the various ways humans think, all because of their upbringing as children. Some older practices are medieval, and some are solid. Some come from the word of God, and some are misinterpreted.

55 failed relationships. 3 failed marriages. You have no business lecturing others.

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32 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Hmmmmm,

My Christian upbringing among Catholics, Baptists and Anglicans all said men were in charge and women were to be subservient. I can't remember any Priest, Vicar or Minister telling me women were equals.

Real men don´t need priests, vicar or Ministers to tell them such thing. They understand all by themselves.

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2 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Your education is below mine. You are a year 12 boy.

It seems everyone here sees you the same way as i do. A troll who's education is severely lacking and only here to argue to make yourself feel better. You assume everything while I point out the obvious from your actions. You came here, and have all along, just to troll and bait others. Take a quick glance at your reputation here. You are not only lacking that education and common sense, but have absolutely no restraint, even while being proven wrong 100% of the time. It might be best if you found another forum to bother others, as you aren't welcome here.

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4 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

55 failed relationships. 3 failed marriages. You have no business lecturing others.

Getting old posting the same lame false exaggerations. I already explained this where someone in their teens would understand. That you keep coming back further feeds this narrative. Ended doesn't mean failed, so educate yourself on relationship dynamics before you reply, as you look more the fool daily. Better yet, actually have a relationship you aren't paying cash for, so you could have some experience.

3 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

It seems everyone here sees you the same way as i do. A troll who's education is severely lacking and only here to argue to make yourself feel better. You assume everything while I point out the obvious from your actions. You came here, and have all along, just to troll and bait others. Take a quick glance at your reputation here. You are not only lacking that education and common sense, but have absolutely no restraint, even while being proven wrong 100% of the time. It might be best if you found another forum to bother others, as you aren't welcome here.

You are very strange.

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

Getting old posting the same lame false exaggerations. I already explained this where someone in their teens would understand. That you keep coming back further feeds this narrative. Ended doesn't mean failed, so educate yourself on relationship dynamics before you reply, as you look more the fool daily. Better yet, actually have a relationship you aren't paying cash for, so you could have some experience.

You are talking to strangers. They don't need your advice. Your advice is a proven loser anyway. 55 mistakes. Guys with a 45 year marriage should be giving advice not you.

7 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

Real men don´t need priests, vicar or Ministers to tell them such thing. They understand all by themselves.

Real men make their own decisions.

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Just now, Harrisfan said:

You are talking to strangers. They don't need your advice. Your advice is a proven loser anyway. 55 mistakes. Guys with a 45 year marriage should be giving advice not you.

People who educate themselves on relationships because of some mistakes, read constantly on it, and also look at their partner as equals instead of objects are qualified to give advice, the same as most counselors and psychologists who have been divorced at least one time.

People like you, that assume they know what others do in their lives they've never met, are not qualified and should keep their opinions to themselves. You obviously have very little experience with women, and likely are exactly how you appear here in real life. A misogynist that hasn't the slightest idea how to listen to women but prefers younger ones they can manipulate easier.

4 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

You are talking to strangers. They don't need your advice. Your advice is a proven loser anyway. 55 mistakes. Guys with a 45 year marriage should be giving advice not you.

Ended doesn't mean failed, so educate yourself on relationship dynamics before you reply, as you look more the fool daily.

2 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Who cares. Go back to Texas. You hate Thailand.

I'll post your line, the usual 5 or less words, "None of you business really" And it's "your" .

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Open marriages, a form of consensual nonmonogamy, involve partners agreeing to engage in sexual or romantic relationships outside their primary partnership without it being considered infidelity. Research indicates that such arrangements can be successful and even beneficial for some couples, provided they are built on mutual consent, open communication, and clear boundaries.

Key Findings from Scientific Research

  • High Relationship Satisfaction: A 2019 study by the University of Rochester found that consensual nonmonogamous (CNM) couples—including those in open marriages—reported similar levels of relationship satisfaction, low loneliness, and minimal psychological distress compared to long-term monogamous couples.

  • Reduced Jealousy and Higher Trust: Open relationships often lead to lower jealousy and greater trust, as partners have explicit permission and understanding about outside connections, reducing the need for secrecy or surveillance.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/talking-apes/202004/are-open-marriages-happier

Reminds me of the joke about a couple at a sex counselor's:

Sex counselor to the husband: "Do you sometimes talk to your wife while having sex?"

Husband: "Yeah, why not, whenever I've got my cell phone with me"

3 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

Of course it is. It's an affront to any man that has respect towards women. The only way things change is enough people complaining about them. I look at women as equals, as they should be, as it's how I was raised and what I saw. I guess I could say it's none of your business thinking it's not my business.

And if you were raised Muslim. Would that be justifiable too?

54 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

And if you were raised Muslim. Would that be justifiable too?

There are Muslims that treat their women well. They've learned to separate their thinking from the norm. The Quran teaches that both men and women are equal to God. Islamic laws has different gender roles for men and women. This is from the following link..................Modernization has changed many aspects of femininity, in the past, and in the present The global market is changing femininity by showcasing and promoting images that are desirable for an ideal Muslim woman and this change has caused certain traditions for women to become outdated and contested...........Although there are no elaborate roles for men and women in the Qur'an, it is strongly implied that each gender provides equally significant contributions to the family realm

Some choose to live their lives different than others, and there is always a right and wrong, no matter the culture practices................https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_roles_in_Islam

In my opinion, if the wife is still open to sex then the study probably works/ valid. If your libido gets a recharge and that transfers to her seems like a good thing. The study apparently validates this, but makes sense to me.

If not, nothing gonna jump start the lump so the theory goes nowhere. My pal in states is married to a Filipino lump. He would have left your years ago except that she pulls in more money than he does now. He brought her and her kid ( yikes) to US. He's miserable no sex in months if not years, stuck in US.

Nothing worse than an incel in Thailand no less not having sex with the wife or not

There are actually foreign men in Thailand married to lumps just as miserable as their pals back in home countries lol. They moralize about it on this forum often.

There are actually men in Thailand that don't know how to get hooked up with a side chick.

There's lots of fun that you can have with a woman and still avoid STIs. Of course if your wife isn't giving you any ass then you really don't even have anything to worry about and insofar as passing it on

Of course, telling your wife she needs to lose XX kg and provide sex twice a week or it's over regardless in tandem works too.

5 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

I guess you lack experience.

18 years of marriage would say otherwise.

Next.

4 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

Open marriages, a form of consensual nonmonogamy, involve partners agreeing to engage in sexual or romantic relationships outside their primary partnership without it being considered infidelity. Research indicates that such arrangements can be successful and even beneficial for some couples, provided they are built on mutual consent, open communication, and clear boundaries.

Key Findings from Scientific Research

  • High Relationship Satisfaction: A 2019 study by the University of Rochester found that consensual nonmonogamous (CNM) couples—including those in open marriages—reported similar levels of relationship satisfaction, low loneliness, and minimal psychological distress compared to long-term monogamous couples.

  • Reduced Jealousy and Higher Trust: Open relationships often lead to lower jealousy and greater trust, as partners have explicit permission and understanding about outside connections, reducing the need for secrecy or surveillance.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/talking-apes/202004/are-open-marriages-happier

The study has small self selecting sample size. Which indicates bias. Most psychology studies are garbage.

6 hours ago, impulse said:

According to the latest Epstein releases, Bill got a dose that he passed onto Melinda. Jeffery suggested ways to slip her some antibiotics on the sly.

And now she's got her own charity...

So it appears to be rather hit and miss whether a side piece improves performance, not to mention finances.

There is a strong possibility Melinda separated from him, not just because of the infidelity, but because Bill was involved with Epstein and with underage girls. This has been well covered in the media as well.

54 minutes ago, blaze master said:

18 years of marriage would say otherwise.

Next.

Ok, then you only sound like it. :-)

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