Quite a good anti-vaccine rant from RFK.

Nutrition and clean water was what stopped death from disease

“Vaccines played almost no part, in the 20th Century, in the decline in mortality from infectious diseases”!!!

Higher mortality with more vaccines

https://www.facebook.com/reel/814779671468703

Vaccines don't cause autism, but the CDC has no evidence to support their claim.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1182434586691978

And now the CDC have been forced to retract their claim

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccine-safety/about/autism.html

From the revised CDC website.

The claim "vaccines do not cause autism" is not an evidence-based claim because studies have not ruled out the possibility that infant vaccines cause autism.

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36 minutes ago, CharlieH said:

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It's actually the forum software trying to embed the videos that is causing the 'failed display' problems. The links work fine when just text links.

3 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Vaccines don't cause autism, but the CDC has no evidence to support their claim.

And now the CDC have been forced to retract their claim

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccine-safety/about/autism.html

From the revised CDC website.

The claim "vaccines do not cause autism" is not an evidence-based claim because studies have not ruled out the possibility that infant vaccines cause autism.

Been lots of debate on the worth of vaccines on AN.

All of them. None been safe, effective or necessary. They were often promoted as 'life-savers' when the 'disease' they are said to be for had long since diminished as a common complaint. Resulting in more illness.

Two books well worth a butchers. Dissolving illusions & Can You Catch a Cold.

www.dissolvingillusions.com

www.humanley.com

Is Kennedy the guy to change the thinking of Americans?

3 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Can You Catch a Cold.

I am working on a book called "Can You Catch a Migraine on AN?"

1 minute ago, save the frogs said:

I am working on a book called "Can You Catch a Migraine on AN?"

There are reasons why one gets a migraine.

Nature has the answers we seek.

7 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

All of them. None been safe, effective or necessary. T

Lol. The mind boggles at the workings inside yours? Improved sanitation didn't stop the spread of things like Polio or Measles; the vaccines did. When a vaccine is introduced, the "case rate" (the number of people getting sick) usually drops off a cliff. Maybe someone’s child close to you had a health issue shortly after a vaccine, no amount of statistics will convince you it was a coincidence - we get that. Humans are wired to find patterns, even where they don't exist. The battle between standardized data and personal anecdotes. When someone feels the system has failed them, the "hidden history" version of events starts to look a lot more like the truth.

8 minutes ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

Lol. The mind boggles at the workings inside yours? Improved sanitation didn't stop the spread of things like Polio or Measles; the vaccines did. When a vaccine is introduced, the "case rate" (the number of people getting sick) usually drops off a cliff. Maybe someone’s child close to you had a health issue shortly after a vaccine, no amount of statistics will convince you it was a coincidence - we get that. Humans are wired to find patterns, even where they don't exist. The battle between standardized data and personal anecdotes. When someone feels the system has failed them, the "hidden history" version of events starts to look a lot more like the truth.

Before early child vaccinations autism affected 1 in 10,000 children.

Today autism affects 1 in 31 children.

2 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Before early child vaccinations autism affected 1 in 10,000 children.

Today autism affects 1 in 31 children.

Seems like autism started to rise later than vaccines.

For some reasons mentioned by AI.

Maybe also people started eating unhealthy .... more processed foods, and more metabolic disorder.

I think the first recorded heart attack in the US was in 1912. Heart attacks were rare / unheard of before then. Has to do with dietary changes.

1 minute ago, save the frogs said:

Seems like autism started to rise later than vaccines.

For some reasons mentioned by AI.

Maybe also people started eating unhealthy .... more processed foods, and more metabolic disorder.

I think the first recorded heart attack in the US was in 1912. Heart attacks were rare / unheard of before then. Has to do with dietary changes.

Improved screening ........

So where are all the autistic people over 60 years old hiding?

I mean, i can spot an autistic person in about 10 seconds.

42 minutes ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

Improved sanitation didn't stop the spread of things like Polio or Measles; the vaccines did.

Polio is caused by toxins. It is not a disease. The vaccines are/were a fraudulent rip-off.

Measles is a member of the 'pox' family of symptoms. Simply the body cleansing itself. The complaint is not infectious, and any vaccine for it, as with Polio, is worthless, damaging and totally unnecessary.

Nature has the answers we seek.

46 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Polio is caused by toxins. It is not a disease. The vaccines are/were a fraudulent rip-off.

Measles is a member of the 'pox' family of symptoms. Simply the body cleansing itself. The complaint is not infectious, and any vaccine for it, as with Polio, is worthless, damaging and totally unnecessary.

Nature has the answers we seek.

So no comment on the bit where I said "Humans are wired to find patterns, even where they don't exist." ?

22 minutes ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

So no comment on the bit where I said "Humans are wired to find patterns, even where they don't exist." ?

Could you be more specific Sir? What particularly are you alluding to?

2 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Before early child vaccinations autism affected 1 in 10,000 children.

Today autism affects 1 in 31 children.

Anti-vaxx post pinpoints wrong factor for autism rates | AAP

A Facebook post claims an increase in childhood vaccinations is responsible for a dramatic rise in the rate of autism¹ since the 1980s.

The claim is false. Experts told AAP FactCheck the rise is due to a broader diagnostic criteria and an improved understanding of the condition.

Numerous studies ²have debunked the claimed link between vaccines and autism.

On 2/5/2026 at 3:28 PM, scottiejohn said:

Anti-vaxx post pinpoints wrong factor for autism rates | AAP

A Facebook post claims an increase in childhood vaccinations is responsible for a dramatic rise in the rate of autism¹ since the 1980s.

The claim is false. Experts told AAP FactCheck the rise is due to a broader diagnostic criteria and an improved understanding of the condition.

Numerous studies ²have debunked the claimed link between vaccines and autism.

The CDC says the studies were all flawed.

Who to believe, AAP leftie woke fact check or the CDC?

On 2/5/2026 at 9:28 AM, scottiejohn said:

Numerous studies ²have debunked the claimed link between vaccines and autism.

Studies funded by…?

RFK is not scared of germs because he used to snort cocaine off toilet seats.

Yes he said this Thursday. Obviously if this is what you did and how you feel, Vaccines don't matter much.

On 2/5/2026 at 3:28 PM, scottiejohn said:

Anti-vaxx post pinpoints wrong factor for autism rates | AAP

A Facebook post claims an increase in childhood vaccinations is responsible for a dramatic rise in the rate of autism¹ since the 1980s.

The claim is false. Experts told AAP FactCheck the rise is due to a broader diagnostic criteria and an improved understanding of the condition.

Numerous studies ²have debunked the claimed link between vaccines and autism.

TBH with yer, I can't understand why anyone would think taking a vaxx of any sort is worth it.

The evidence is out there for all to see.

8 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

TBH with yer, I can't understand why anyone would think taking a vaxx of any sort is worth it.

The evidence is out there for all to see.

Your biased version of the so called dangerous "evidence" is there for all to see and the blinkers/biased antivaxxers to absorb and re-spout to their danger!

Thanks for the reply Sir. Let me put you straight on matters.

There is;;;

No evidence that germs cause illness.

No evidence that any virus has caused disease.

No evidence that we humans have such a thing as an immune system.

No evidence that illness is contagious.

No evidence that any vaccine is safe.

No evidence that shows a vaccine to be effective (therefore necessary).

No evidence that a vaccine lessened, or stopped, anything.

If you take issue with any of the above, please point me to some evidence that shows I've got it wrong. Unlike many, I'm willing to learn.

20 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Unlike many, I'm willing to learn.

From the tin hat written comics I assume!

Try this;

Immune system exists, germs do cause disease – don’t believe misinformation about ‘terrain model’ - Africa Check

16 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

From the tin hat written comics I assume!

Try this;

Immune system exists, germs do cause disease – don’t believe misinformation about ‘terrain model’ - Africa Check

On the whole; utter nonsense. Although they do come close on the immune system.

Quoting:

"As we’ve said previously, there is plenty of proof that viruses exist and cause disease. Flu viruses have been photographed in the process of infecting cells, under powerful microscopes."

The above paragraph is simply a lie. No pathogenic virus has ever been shown to exist.

3 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

On the whole; utter nonsense. Although they do come close on the immune system.

Quoting:

"As we’ve said previously, there is plenty of proof that viruses exist and cause disease. Flu viruses have been photographed in the process of infecting cells, under powerful microscopes."

The above paragraph is simply a lie. No pathogenic virus has ever been shown to exist.

You probably believe that fingerprints are not valid unless the police also

find the fingers at the crime scene.

4 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

The above paragraph is simply a lie

Prove it from a world renowned source!

46 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

Prove it!

To start off with a virus has not been purified.

The word 'virus' has been given to a certain shape of minute cell debris. It is dead, inert and cannot cause harm. In fact it's creation is the body maintenance at work. Aiding the removal of unwanted bits of cells and tissue.

Nature has all the answers.

4 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

To start off with a virus has not been purified.

The word 'virus' has been given to a certain shape of minute cell debris. It is dead, inert and cannot cause harm. In fact it's creation is the body maintenance at work. Aiding the removal of unwanted bits of cells and tissue.

Nature has all the answers.

That is your blinkered opinion and not an answer to my post which was;

Prove it from a world renowned source!

15 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

That is your blinkered opinion and not an answer to my post which was;

Prove it from a world renowned source!

Who do you believe Sir? Me, a truth seeker, or a website running alive with lies and fraudulence?

The onus is on the promoter to prove they have found a virus. Not asking someone who says they are not credible claims or real. Bit like being asked; prove there is no god.

5 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Who do you believe Sir? Me, a truth seeker, or a website running alive with lies and fraudulence?

The onus is on the promoter to prove they have found a virus. Not asking someone who says they are not credible claims or real. Bit like being asked; prove there is no god.

So you have no proof!