1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

Sure give us the titles. Dick and Jane Go to Thailand?

So you are saying a Wikipedia article on Trump is less "interpretive" than an article on Cat Behavior?

I'll send you a list of the titles in a message. I've been warned about posting them here on Asean Now Forums.

I think the Wikipedia articles on Trump and Cat Behavior are the same article. 😉

1 hour ago, WDSmart said:

I'll send you a list of the titles in a message. I've been warned about posting them here on Asean Now Forums.

I think the Wikipedia articles on Trump and Cat Behavior are the same article. 😉

Your list of titles isnt very impressive, and your last sentence demonstrates it.

14 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Your list of titles isnt very impressive, and your last sentence demonstrates it.

Vanity Press no doubt

19 hours ago, liddelljohn said:

Wikepedia is wrong , British madate data , UN records and israeli records say otherwise,, Have you ever been to israel or gaza or any where in ME ,, I have lived in Egypt and Israel, worked in GAZA , jordan and lebanon and most of ME ,, what one reads in Western media is often wildly inaccurate ,, The Jordanians, Egyptians and Lebanese hate the Palestinians ... Saudi and Iraq also hate them they are only welcome in QATAR or as cheap labour in the Gulf emirates but they are despised ....I havealso worked with a lot of great Palestinian techs in the offshore industry ,, they hate the PLO nand HAMAS but are terrified of them ,,, many used to work in Israel too until HAMAS broke the peace ,, what many people dont know is that 25% of palestinian Arabs used to be Christian but were forcably converted or had to flee,,

Did you live in Gaza before 1948? Please provide a link for your population claims. As for other Arabs hating Palestinians, it was in 1964 that I learned about the Nakba when I went to visit friends in Saudi Arabia. They were seriously concerned about the situation in Palestine. Before that I grew up reading letters to the editor, really propaganda, in our local paper about the the new arrivals making desert bloom, etc, etc, plus the Exodus movie: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exodus_(1960_film).

1 minute ago, placnx said:

Before that I grew up reading letters to the editor, really propaganda, in our local paper about the the new arrivals making desert bloom, etc, etc, plus the Exodus movie: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exodus_(1960_film).

Yeah, Israel is a vast economic wasteland compared to the Arab world.

I have always tried to avoid movies as a source for history, otherwise I would have thought Jim Garrison was a hero.

4 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Off topic. Start one and Ill be happy to again, as always, prove that you have nothing.

4 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Off topic.

What is "off topic"?

I have responded to your post and stated ""Wikipedia" and "science stuff" is an oxymoron!" which you have only responded to with yet another of your deflection, pointless and asinine posts!

29 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

What is "off topic"?

I have responded to your post and stated ""Wikipedia" and "science stuff" is an oxymoron!" which you have only responded to with yet another of your deflection, pointless and asinine posts!

You mean the posts that expose your antisemitism and hatred of America, besides your inability to frame a cogent argument.

Ill rise to your bait: Tell us how Wikipedia and science stuff is an oxymoron?

2 hours ago, placnx said:

Did you live in Gaza before 1948? Please provide a link for your population claims. As for other Arabs hating Palestinians, it was in 1964 that I learned about the Nakba when I went to visit friends in Saudi Arabia. They were seriously concerned about the situation in Palestine. Before that I grew up reading letters to the editor, really propaganda, in our local paper about the the new arrivals making desert bloom, etc, etc, plus the Exodus movie: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exodus_(1960_film).

My Uncle from lived in Gaza from 1935 when he left Germany because of Hitler until 1987 he ran a farm he had built from nothing but dry desert using irrigation before that the Land was wasteland .which the local sold him as they thougfht he was a fool ..all his employees were local gazans and they came to love and respect him ....The population records can be seen in The British Library, the UN historical data archive i have seen them I have met and talked to the people I have seen it all with my own eyes and experience .. All your experience is 3rd hand ,,and clearly you have an agenda ...Im not a jew either im a confirmed atheist .... .

5 minutes ago, liddelljohn said:

My Uncle from lived in Gaza from 1935 when he left Germany because of Hitler until 1987 he ran a farm he had built from nothing but dry desert using irrigation before that the Land was wasteland .which the local sold him as they thougfht he was a fool ..all his employees were local gazans and they came to love and respect him ....The population records can be seen in The British Library, the UN historical data archive i have seen them I have met and talked to the people I have seen it all with my own eyes and experience .. All your experience is 3rd hand ,,and clearly you have an agenda ...Im not a jew either im a confirmed atheist .... .

He still has the keys too!

Great news from the UK at alst I can say I support Palestine Action. Free the prisoners of conscience.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/feb/13/uk-ban-palestine-action-unlawful-high-court-judges-rule

On 2/10/2026 at 10:23 PM, Chomper Higgot said:

You need to read my post again.

Nothing in it even suggests that Israel were responsible for [the heinous terrorist attack] of October 7th.

Except perhaps retaliation from Hmas for extemely poor poor treatment (steal large amounts of land / serious planned disruption of medical / survival supplies by the israelies). Much violence and death poured onto many palestinians.

9 minutes ago, scorecard said:

Except perhaps retaliation from Hmas for extemely poor poor treatment (steal large amounts of land / serious planned disruption of medical / survival supplies by the israelies). Much violence and death poured onto many palestinians.

Its a war, what do you expect in war ?

12 hours ago, liddelljohn said:

Im not a jew either im a confirmed atheist

You can be both. Many Jews are atheists. Which begs the question: How can Jews consider themselves to be "god's chosen people" when they don't believe in God?

P.S. - I am also an atheist. But I'm a non-Jewish atheist.

Nothing new. Queen Elizabeth never visited Israel for a reason.

Remember the King David hotel bombing by the terrorist Irgun, whose leader Menchem Begin was prime minister from 1977-1983.

For the past 30 years Netanyahu, another evil man has mostly been PM. Many forget he became PM after Rabin was assassinated because he agreed to a two stare solution.

Netanyahu, Smotrich and Ben Gvir are evil men supported by the majority of Jews in Israel.

Israel are powerful but this Genocide ain't going to end well for them.

2 hours ago, BangkokHank said:

You can be both. Many Jews are atheists. Which begs the question: How can Jews consider themselves to be "god's chosen people" when they don't believe in God?

Jews will tell you that their God considers all people to be equal.

QED, he cannot have a chosen people.

Post promoting antisemitic ideas removed @BangkokHank

15 hours ago, WDSmart said:

The Palestinians didn’t start this war.

Yes, they did. It's unclear what you mean with "this war," i.e., whether you are referring only to the current war in Gaza that started on Oct. 7, 2023, or the entire conflict stretching back to 1947-48. In either case, Palestinians initiated the military action.

15 hours ago, WDSmart said:

The UN actually set up the conditions of the war by giving about half of Palestine to the Jews in 1947. The Jews (now called "Israelis”) then started the war by increasing their claim on the land from about 50% to now about 95% over the past 70 years.

Palestinian gangs began attacking Jews immediately after the U.N. General Assembly on Nov. 29, 1947, approved the Parition Plan for Mandatory Palestine. Jewish gangs and groups retaliated and small-scale attacks grew into military engagements between Palestinian and Zionist militias.

The real action began after the annoucement of the creation of the state of Israel on May 14, 1948. "The day after Israel declared independence, it was attacked and surrounded by the armies of five Arab nations. ... By the time the fighting ended with an armistice in 1949, Israel controlled most of the territory." https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckgr71z0jp4o

Jews were given 56% of the area of Mandatory Palestine for twp reasons: 1) much of this "excess" land was in the Negrev Desert and at the time useless for crop cultivation; and 2) Israel needed more space for what was thought to be a sudden inlux of Jewish refugees from Europe and the Middle East.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckgr71z0jp4o

6 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

Jews will tell you that their God considers all people to be equal.

QED, he cannot have a chosen people.

Great comment, god (nor jesus) ever existed so they didn't actually say anything.

However I think we can assume that god (if he spoke) or any representation of god would be a strong advocate of equality and no discrimation for any reason. Plus a strong advocate of a 100% moral balanced society.

Netanyahu and his supporters are not moral, not balanced, don't practice equality and do strongly discrimae in many ways.

They are examples of evil.

And I'm not therefore suggestig that Hamas are lilly white / perfect, they ain't.

7 hours ago, BangkokHank said:

Many Jews are atheists. Which begs the question: How can Jews consider themselves to be "god's chosen people" when they don't believe in God?

5 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

Jews will tell you that their God considers all people to be equal.

QED, he cannot have a chosen people.

The concept of Jews as a chosen peop[le is based on the belief God chose the ancient Isaelites for a special religious covenant, usually called the Mosaic covenant. The covenant went beyond the Ten Commandments and included numerous religious requirements and restrictions described in the first five books of the Torah. It covered many aspects of Judaism still practiced today, such as circumcision, kosher diet, observing the Sabbath, rules for marriage, etc.

The idea of a chosen people had nothing to do with superiority based on race, ethnicity or even religion but instead reflected a commitment to obey God's laws.

On 2/12/2026 at 2:11 PM, Chomper Higgot said:

And yet, as stated above.

There was no plan.

The need for a full and open inquiry is clear.

In world history. has there ever been an enquiry about a countries response to being attacked ?

Was there an enquiry about the UKs response time when it was attacked by Argentina ?

Why just Israel should have an enquiry ?

Do you realise that treating Israel differently to every other Country in the World is regarded as anti semitic ?

12 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

The concept of Jews as a chosen peop[le is based on the belief God chose the ancient Isaelites for a special religious covenant, usually called the Mosaic covenant. The covenant went beyond the Ten Commandments and included numerous religious requirements and restrictions described in the first five books of the Torah. It covered many aspects of Judaism still practiced today, such as circumcision, kosher diet, observing the Sabbath, rules for marriage, etc.

The idea of a chosen people had nothing to do with superiority based on race, ethnicity or even religion but instead reflected a commitment to obey God's laws.

Can you see the flaw in your statement?

If all people are equal before god, he would not choose any group of people for anything different from any other peoples.

I see circumcision as male genital mutilation, it should not be performed until the subject reaches legal age of majority, but that's another thing entirely.

21 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

On 2/13/2026 at 9:36 AM, WDSmart said:

The Palestinians didn’t start this war.

Yes, they did. It's unclear what you mean with "this war," i.e., whether you are referring only to the current war in Gaza that started on Oct. 7, 2023, or the entire conflict stretching back to 1947-48. In either case, Palestinians initiated the military action.

Yes, I consider the admittedly horrible Palestinian attack on Oct 7, 2023, killing 1,200 people, as just another chapter in a continuing war (conflict), which started back in 1947-48. Since then, in this chapter, there has been an admittedly horrible bombing of Gaza by the Israelis, killing 69,000 people and injuring many more.

Israel needs to relinquish all the land it has seized since 1948.

58 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

Yes, I consider the admittedly horrible Palestinian attack on Oct 7, 2023, killing 1,200 people, as just another chapter in a continuing war (conflict), which started back in 1947-48. Since then, in this chapter, there has been an admittedly horrible bombing of Gaza by the Israelis, killing 69,000 people and injuring many more.

Why only go back to 1947-1948?

22 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

Israel needs to relinquish all the land it has seized since 1948.

Why only go back to 1947-1948?

15 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Why only go back to 1947-1948?

Because that was the last quasi-legal agreement. None of the land taken since then is legal according to international law.

7 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

Because that was the last quasi-legal agreement. None of the land taken since then is legal according to international law.

That agreement was before Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon, and Syria all tried to eradicate Israel in 1948, yes?

Why should the territories gained by Israel as a result of a war inflicted on them be returned?

1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

That agreement was before Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon, and Syria all tried to eradicate Israel in 1948, yes?

Why should the territories gained by Israel as a result of a war inflicted on them be returned?

Under International Law, borders cannot be changed through violence.

9 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

Under International Law, borders cannot be changed through violence.

Exactly how does the "international law" read in that regard?

When was that law ratified?

1 hour ago, WDSmart said:

Since then, in this chapter, there has been an admittedly horrible bombing of Gaza by the Israelis, killing 69,000 people and injuring many more.

last I heard it was 80,000 + and every one of them was of course , an" innocent starving child " which probably explains why the hamas supporting, pro gaza brigade's placards only ever feature the same 3 or 4 sickly looking kids, presumably there must be no other surviving kids to photograph ? pull the other one , its got bells on it