7 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

Oh look, elderly white western males opining on how females bodies should be managed/controlled. Let's see how they respond when women exert control over their reproductive organs. 🤗

Not tonight hunny I have a headache.

11 hours ago, Yagoda said:

More questions you cannot answer. Flee from hard truths LOL. I didnt report your low value post because its a prime example of how you and your ilk roll. Flame and run when confronted with anything that disrupts the propaganda machine.

Speaking of that, where is @josephbloggs. He asked for this topic. I have more coming to take away your oxygen. Maybe Israel next LOL

Not sure what's with your repeated baiting. I have never mentioned an opinion on abortion or a desire to discuss it with you. Also I have a life outside of the forum - an 800km drive today and now a week on Samui with my wife and kids so I am not paying attention to things here, I just popped in to see why I have two baiting notifications.

Get over me, move on. And enjoy your thread. However your desire to control the decision of women and their bodies is noted.

2 hours ago, NoDisplayName said:

Yep, they had a memo which made it legal.

It was T4 sorry and the memo was pursuant to national socialist law.

Tell us about the torture memo so I can probe your knowledge.

first, can you show us where abortion was lawful under common law?

6 hours ago, Roadsternut said:

Despite your mealy mouthed reasoning, my statement still stands correct. Not sure why then contention.

If men took responsibility for their actions there would be at least a 60% reduction in abortions, and gimps like Fuentes wouldn't be tweeting about creating gulags for women to act as baby machines (he's one of these racist cn uts motivated by declining birth rates and so-called "Great Replacement Theory").

Who is Fuentes and what does that have to do with chopping a viable baby up inside the womb?

6 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

Oh look, elderly white western males opining on how females bodies should be managed/controlled. Let's see how they respond when women exert control over their reproductive organs. 🤗

They do exert control over their reproductive organs. Some responsibly, many, not so responsibly. Pretty easy to avoid becoming pregnant.

I never wanted to father children, so I never dated (had intercourse) with anyone that wasn't on the pill. Simple enough, and think if falls in the responsible sex category.

Troll post removed @Roadsternut discuss the topic and not other posters.

5 hours ago, KhunLA said:

They do exert control over their reproductive organs. Some responsibly, many, not so responsibly. Pretty easy to avoid becoming pregnant.

I never wanted to father children, so I never dated (had intercourse) with anyone that wasn't on the pill. Simple enough, and think if falls in the responsible sex category.

No it is not "pretty easy" to avoid becoming pregnant.

Victims of rape and sexual manipulation don't find it easy.

Impoverished people who cannot afford prevention don't find it easy.

Women from communities where birth control is discouraged, or access to it is impeded don't find it easy.

Women who are blocked from having reproductive sex education don't find it easy.

The intellectually and physically impaired don't find it easy.

Women do not wake up one day and say, I will get pregnant for fun and then interrupt the gestation period.

No woman wants to have an abortion for the thrill of it.

9 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

No it is not "pretty easy" to avoid becoming pregnant.

Victims of rape and sexual manipulation don't find it easy.

Impoverished people who cannot afford prevention don't find it easy.

Women from communities where birth control is discouraged, or access to it is impeded don't find it easy.

Women who are blocked from having reproductive sex education don't find it easy.

The intellectually and physically impaired don't find it easy.

Women do not wake up one day and say, I will get pregnant for fun and then interrupt the gestation period.

No woman wants to have an abortion for the thrill of it.

obviously rape wouldn't be a choice, and haven't a clue what sexual manipulation is. Everyone can afford the pill, in TH, and developed countries.

You're being silly. If not using protection, don't have intercourse, or is that too complicated for you.

... "Women do not wake up one day and say, I will get pregnant for fun and then interrupt the gestation period." ...

Apparently they do, as 10s of millions of abortions in the USA alone have been performed.

USA birth control cost ... can't afford, really ???

Thailand the pill cost 200-300 THB a month.

9 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Who is Fuentes and what does that have to do with chopping a viable baby up inside the womb?

Babies are not chopped up in the womb. In much of the western world, 95% of terminations are done prior to 16 weeks. The fetus is approx. 120 millimeters in length from top of fetus to rump and has a weight of approx. 110 grams. It is neither viable, nor sentient.

When a late stage procedure is undertaken, it is almost always because the fetus is unable to continue to develop, i.e. "dead" or is severely deformed or diseased. The groups trying to block late stage procedures want women to deliver significantly deformed humanoids, e.g. without brains or fully formed organs or to carry calcifying, decaying tissue that puts the woman's health risk. Intrauterine fetal death is not uncommon, and it is horribly cruel to demand that a woman be forced to carry the dead tissue for 9 months. A fetus is already without any viability by the time it is removed in a late stage procedure.

A late stage termination procedure is high risk. It is therefore a conservative, methodical procedure best decided upon between the patient and her medical care provider(s). The procedure removes the diseased or deficient tissue in portions so as to protect a woman's life. A live baby is not chopped up.

10 hours ago, Yagoda said:

It was T4 sorry and the memo was pursuant to national socialist law.

Tell us about the torture memo so I can probe your knowledge.

first, can you show us where abortion was lawful under common law?

Bush's torture memo allowed us to probe our victims' knowledge.

A set of legal memoranda known as the "Torture Memos" were drafted by John Yoo as Deputy Assistant Attorney General of the United States and signed in August 2002 by Assistant Attorney General Jay S. Bybee, head of the Office of Legal Counsel of the United States Department of Justice. They advised the Central Intelligence Agency, the United States Department of Defense, and the president on the use of enhanced interrogation techniques—mental and physical torment and coercion such as prolonged sleep deprivation, binding in stress positions, and waterboarding—and stated that such acts, widely regarded as torture, might be legally permissible under an expansive interpretation of presidential authority during the "war on terror"

28 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

obviously rape wouldn't be a choice, and haven't a clue what sexual manipulation is. Everyone can afford the pill, in TH, and developed countries.

You're being silly. If not using protection, don't have intercourse, or is that too complicated for you.

... "Women do not wake up one day and say, I will get pregnant for fun and then interrupt the gestation period." ...

Apparently they do, as 10s of millions of abortions in the USA alone have been performed.

USA birth control cost ... can't afford, really ???

Thailand the pill cost 200-300 THB a month.

The pill is a combination of hormones. Some women cannot take these hormones. Nor is the birth control pill effectiveness guaranteed.

You don't know what sexual manipulation is? Have a look at the UK grooming gang scandal. How many of the children used by the gangs had access to proper birth control, let alone treatment for their STIs. The Rotherham inquiry identified 1400 victims in that district alone. The 2023 UK Grooming Gangs Taskforce helped police forces identify and over 4,000 victims in a 12-month period. A survey published by the ONS in 2020 found that about 7.5% of adults in England and Wales had experienced some form of sexual abuse before the age of 16, including about 3.5% of men and 11.5% of women, equivalent to around 3.1 million people.

In the USA, it is not uncommon for rural pharmacies to refuse to provide birth control to young people or to allow for privacy.

Just now, Patong2021 said:

The pill is a combination of hormones. Some women cannot take these hormones. Nor is the birth control pill effectiveness guaranteed.

You don't know what sexual manipulation is? Have a look at the UK grooming gang scandal. How many of the children used by the gangs had access to proper birth control, let alone treatment for their STIs. The Rotherham inquiry identified 1400 victims in that district alone. The 2023 UK Grooming Gangs Taskforce helped police forces identify and over 4,000 victims in a 12-month period. A survey published by the ONS in 2020 found that about 7.5% of adults in England and Wales had experienced some form of sexual abuse before the age of 16, including about 3.5% of men and 11.5% of women, equivalent to around 3.1 million people.

In the USA, it is not uncommon for rural pharmacies to refuse to provide birth control to young people or to allow for privacy.

Too funny. Pretty sure every gal knows if they have unprotected sex, they'll get pregnant. Being irresponsible, is a choice. Live with your choices. Or kill the baby, rinse & repeat. Up to them.

All the other silliness you mention comes down to the breakdown of the family unit & parenting, along with of course, the easy availability of abortions.

Don't want to get pregnant, don't have intercourse ... not exactly rocket science.

I didn't become a father, a drug addict, an Alky, a felon, unemployed, homeless, as I chose not to be. Women choose to be pregnant, the moment they open their legs, without protection.

There is no need to have intercourse to enjoy sex.

You have a nice day.

7 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Too funny. Pretty sure every gal knows if they have unprotected sex, they'll get pregnant. Being irresponsible, is a choice. Live with your choices. Or kill the baby, rinse & repeat. Up to them.

All the other silliness you mention comes down to the breakdown of the family unit & parenting, along with of course, the easy availability of abortions.

Don't want to get pregnant, don't have intercourse ... not exactly rocket science.

I didn't become a father, a drug addict, an Alky, a felon, unemployed, homeless, as I chose not to be. Women choose to be pregnant, the moment they open their legs, without protection.

There is no need to have intercourse to enjoy sex.

You have a nice day.

You really do not know anything about reproductive health or the socio economic factors involved.

And yet you carry on arrogantly under the assumption that you know it all. Its people like you who force women and others to radicalize and to become extremist, because you are so frightfully ignorant and are imposing your elderly white male perspective on others. If you ran the risk of uterine cancer because of HPV or of an unwanted pregnancy you would be singing a different tune.

6 hours ago, KhunLA said:

I never wanted to father children,

I'm not sure I want to compare scars.🤔😉

17 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

You really do not know anything about reproductive health or the socio economic factors involved.

And yet you carry on arrogantly under the assumption that you know it all. Its people like you who force women and others to radicalize and to become extremist, because you are so frightfully ignorant and are imposing your elderly white male perspective on others. If you ran the risk of uterine cancer because of HPV or of an unwanted pregnancy you would be singing a different tune.

You actually went with the 'elderly white male perspective'. Now that is some funny sh!t.

I've had a lot of fun over 55 ish years, and none of the women I've been with, got pregnant. And if we couldn't have intercourse, we still had a whole lot of smiles.

Pregnancy is a choice. Aside from rape, there is a choice, consciously made, to get pregnant, or not avoid getting pregnant.

It's not because of ignorance, or elderly white male perspective. People need to stop blaming their poor decisions on others.

You sound like someone with regret of a few decisions in the past. Forgive yourself, and move on. this conversation is over. You have a nice day.

Elderly white male perspective ... THANKS

1 hour ago, KhunLA said:

You actually went with the 'elderly white male perspective'. Now that is some funny sh!t.

I've had a lot of fun over 55 ish years, and none of the women I've been with, got pregnant. And if we couldn't have intercourse, we still had a whole lot of smiles.

Pregnancy is a choice. Aside from rape, there is a choice, consciously made, to get pregnant, or not avoid getting pregnant.

It's not because of ignorance, or elderly white male perspective. People need to stop blaming their poor decisions on others.

You sound like someone with regret of a few decisions in the past. Forgive yourself, and move on. this conversation is over. You have a nice day.

Elderly white male perspective ... THANKS

As an elderly white male, I've been happy to impregnate any female that was willing to try.

Resulting in 6 pregnancies that I know of, and another 50 (ish) women that I never saw again after the attempt, and didn't tell them my name.

At least 2 Filipinos and 1 Vietnamese ladies said the baby would definitely be mine.

I think the important aspect everyone is missing is this............

................ women need to listen to fat, white, middle-aged, male right wing, racist incels......only they know what's best and only they know what women should do with their bodies.

16 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

As an elderly white male, I've been happy to impregnate any female that was willing to try.

Resulting in 6 pregnancies that I know of, and another 50 (ish) women that I never saw again after the attempt, and didn't tell them my name.

At least 2 Filipinos and 1 Vietnamese ladies said the baby would definitely be mine.

I always wanting for someone to tell me I got them pregnant, after I was near 40 yrs old. Knowing I never wanted, (thought anyway), and was responsibly thinking and got snipped. Maybe subconsciously thinking, didn't want anything interfering with my retirement. Another 20 yrs, hell NO.

5 more yrs to go, and 25 more here in TH, and nobody tried to scam ... damn.

Side note, ins. co paid for that, no copay, as they don't people to have kids either. Basically free birth control in USA, so really no excuses for abortions, besides simply being irresponsible.

2 minutes ago, MIke B Bad said:

I think the important aspect everyone is missing is this............

................ women need to listen to fat, white, middle-aged, male right wing, racist incels......only they know what's best and only they know what women should do with their bodies.

Swallow ... and the whole world will be happier, with less babies killed. Docs & ins. co. taking a hit on profits, but hey, one less thing to blame on old white males

56 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Swallow ... and the whole world will be happier,

Is that what you tell the girls.....555

I can’’t vote Yes or No, I have never been Pregnant, and never will being Male.

The woman makes the decision as she alone carries the baby to term. A rapist is unlikely to call for the baby to be born. Politicians will not take responsibility for it's upbringing.

If a woman requests termination anyone who opposed that should volunteer to adopt and pay for the child's upbringing.

A troll post trolling about Trump has been removed.

14 hours ago, MIke B Bad said:

women need to listen to fat, white, middle-aged, male right wing, racist incels......

What a disgusting example the the murderous hate burning in the breasts of the left....

C'mon have a peek.

4 hours ago, Yagoda said:

What a disgusting example the the murderous hate burning in the breasts of the left....

the the.....calm down dear.