1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

I've never had a passport, so I can't show any pages.

I live in the UK and have never left it in the past 17 years.

That is good for you, but for someone who lets say has renewed their passport in Vietnam or abroad and will have provided proof that they live abroad, that information is stored AND can be used in data sharing with UK agencies. the world is getting smaller. there is no escape in a digital age

2 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

simply grow a beard and feign "dumbness", having destroyed your passport and disposed of your mobile phone , then engage the services of a human rights/ immigration lawyer, occasionally shouting Ali Akbar works for all the illegals who despise us

lol best you go check out how much a human right lawyer costs......would be cheaper to pay the invoice 😁

16 hours ago, 3NUMBAS said:

Be ware they can now snoop on your bank and BSaccounts with ease so they know from debits where you are and where you live..

Much misinformation about this. For the past 2 years HMRC have given me higher new tax codes and stopping far too much tax on interest earned. Last year complaints got nowhere this year I got an answer. Yes they do use an Ai system to work out your tax, but it's little more than guesswork, no they cannot or are not looking at bank accounts, they said they could not. I had to give them account details and how much interest I would be earning last April to this. They accepted it and gave a large rebate and far lower monthly tax bill

I expect the hysteria about tracking you in and ut of the country is a similar situation

6 minutes ago, visalady said:

Much misinformation about this. For the past 2 years HMRC have given me higher new tax codes and stopping far too much tax on interest earned. Last year complaints got nowhere this year I got an answer. Yes they do use an Ai system to work out your tax, but it's little more than guesswork, no they cannot or are not looking at bank accounts, they said they could not. I had to give them account details and how much interest I would be earning last April to this. They accepted it and gave a large rebate and far lower monthly tax bill

I expect the hysteria about tracking you in and ut of the country is a similar situation

This is not true, the very first post was from someone in hospital who was visited in hospital by the NHS recovery team looking for money, they had his records either from immigration or airline, and presented him with a bill

and last year thousands of child benifits were stopped as, their records did not show the children entering the UK after holidays, again not known if this info came from immigration or airline records https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cge5nl4qxdno

If interested look up at the Public Authorities (Fraud, Error and Recovery) Act 2025,

passed in 2025, rolled out in2026

Yes, if you are suspected of benefit fraud, the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) has powers to see specific bank details, including your balance. Under the Public Authorities (Fraud, Error and Recovery) Act 2025, these powers have been significantly expanded.

UK Parliament - +4

2 hours ago, howerde said:

That is good for you, but for someone who lets say has renewed their passport in Vietnam or abroad and will have provided proof that they live abroad, that information is stored AND can be used in data sharing with UK agencies. the world is getting smaller. there is no escape in a digital age

Not sure they have any way to connect your 'renewed in Vietnam passport' to your UK Bank or NHS or UK address. Unless you paid with your UK card registered at your UK address, and even then, it's only a maybe.

Quite a few pay for their passports with an agents card, or a UK relatives card.

31 minutes ago, howerde said:

This is not true, the very first post was from someone in hospital who was visited in hospital by the NHS recovery team looking for money, they had his records either from immigration or airline, and presented him with a bill

OP told them he had been out of the country for months.

there is a lot of scaremongering going on these days, but , without exception, in my experience of everything from visas and extensions, to yellow books, to banks, to tax , and everything else in between nothing is ever as bad as is stated on this forum.

14 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

OP told them he had been out of the country for months.

After they turned up at hospital with a bill, and he had not been out the country for 90 days, was it not 77 days he had been out the country thus not the 90 day cut off, and the OP got is MP involved, and the bill was cancelled. they had his travel records, so either the NHS checked with immigration or used airline records and they brough these with them.

14 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

OP told them he had been out of the country for months.

he had also been suffering on the flight, and was picked up by ambulance at heathrow , That may well have also caused some bureaucrats to look a little deeper,, But he clearly did not help himself

The whole charade is an absolute disgrace when illegal immigrants who have contributed and will contribute nothing to the system get treated better than those of us who have contributed for years, being economical with the truth is always the best policy they don't know as much as some would have us believe.and as another member has pointed out most people talk themselves into trouble,, Remember you have the right to remain silent, and should do so

What's the 90 day rule all about? people can go on holiday for more than 90 days if they so wish and it should have no bearing on their right to receive free NHS treatment

If they tried to issue me with a £15,000 invoice I would stick it in an envelope and send it straight back to them having wiped my arse with it first .

25 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Not sure they have any way to connect your 'renewed in Vietnam passport' to your UK Bank or NHS or UK address. Unless you paid with your UK card registered at your UK address, and even then, it's only a maybe.

Quite a few pay for their passports with an agents card, or a UK relatives card.

Sorry i was not clear if as a Brit applying for a passport from abroad, then you supply details to show you are living abroad(driving license, resident certificate), this info is stored on the home office database, remember when you apply you need to send a photo copy of every page of the old passport, that info WILL be input in the system(all those yearly extensions), my point is they will know if you are living abroad, Home office records can be used if benefit fraud is suspected, it is a long long boring document but that fraud recovery act of 2025, allows agencies to cross check all systems, the DWP did say that their first targets were child benifits and pension credit fraud, the NHS has its own fraud department. none of them are going to publish exactly what or how they check.

9 minutes ago, howerde said:

Sorry i was not clear if as a Brit applying for a passport from abroad, then you supply details to show you are living abroad(driving license, resident certificate), this info is stored on the home office database, remember when you apply you need to send a photo copy of every page of the old passport, that info WILL be input in the system(all those yearly extensions), my point is they will know if you are living abroad, Home office records can be used if benefit fraud is suspected, it is a long long boring document but that fraud recovery act of 2025, allows agencies to cross check all systems, the DWP did say that their first targets were child benifits and pension credit fraud, the NHS has its own fraud department. none of them are going to publish exactly what or how they check.

But there is no way (I can see) to link your Passport to your unique Identity.

My Thai driving license, my Thai bank card and my Thai address have no connection to my UK bank or my UK address in any UK government database.

Only the name is connected, and in my case there are over 100,000 other guys with the same name as me living in the UK (John Smith).

1 hour ago, Bday Prang said:

there is a lot of scaremongering going on these days, but , without exception, in my experience of everything from visas and extensions, to yellow books, to banks, to tax , and everything else in between nothing is ever as bad as is stated on this forum.

Agreed. One particular very well known troll who regularly gets 'expelled' has multiple profiles. Others don't like the thought of anyone 'getting away with it' so suggest things aren't as easy as they used to be etc.

4 hours ago, BritManToo said:

What if you left before immigration kept records?

Yes, good point.

I'd say only recently (last 10 years) been implemented.

5 hours ago, BritManToo said:

2 hours ago, BritManToo said:

OP told them he had been out of the country for months.

lol no I did NOT

2 hours ago, howerde said:

that fraud recovery act of 2025, allows agencies to cross check all systems,

But not for routine searches. They must a get judge to sign off for said searches on a case by case/police etc investigation !

2 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

he had also been suffering on the flight, and was picked up by ambulance at heathrow , That may well have also caused some bureaucrats to look a little deeper,, But he clearly did not help himself

The whole charade is an absolute disgrace when illegal immigrants who have contributed and will contribute nothing to the system get treated better than those of us who have contributed for years, being economical with the truth is always the best policy they don't know as much as some would have us believe.and as another member has pointed out most people talk themselves into trouble,, Remember you have the right to remain silent, and should do so

What's the 90 day rule all about? people can go on holiday for more than 90 days if they so wish and it should have no bearing on their right to receive free NHS treatment

If they tried to issue me with a £15,000 invoice I would stick it in an envelope and send it straight back to them having wiped my arse with it first .

You're quite delibearely being obtuse

Ambulance....try reading I think it was the 2nd post I made (without going back).....I declined the ambulance airside which would have incurred cost and managed to get landside where it was free as always

Talk myself into trouble ?? Lol I virtually ignored the woman in the hospital as was also detailed as I was more than slightly ill......I stuck the requirements she required in my bag where they stayed (do go back and read fella) inotherwards ignored it completely. It was only when the invoice arrived I had to do something about it

They didnt try to issue me with a £15,000 invoice.......they simply did

The MP made it clear they "can" invoke a requalifying period (which I also detailed previously) so whether you like it or not thats the position

Out....

1 hour ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Yes, good point.

I'd say only recently (last 10 years) been implemented.

Same as the UK then, immigration never used to list citizens leaving the country.