4 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Just imagine the fun you could have ripping a page out of a passport from a fellow traveller that annoyed you, before you got off the flight.

You might just end up leaving the flight in a body bag!

25 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

You might just end up leaving the flight in a body bag!

Be rather stupid to let another passenger get hold your passport. Have to fight to get it. And that would be hell for anyone so crazy to try .

5 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Yet when you get a physical 90-day reporting notification the immigration office does not staple it in your passport, it is provided as a sheet of paper for you to do with as you choose, is it not?

Another lie. Keep it up you're on a roll

5 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

That is not a normal option for most travellers unless they have very specific reasons for needing multiple passports (or they have dual citizenships).

Or different identities. lol

7 hours ago, shackleton said:

Your passport is your life line when travelling so best you keep it in good condition or in a secure place when not travelling

Wise words indeed- I am paranoid about damage to mine

I feel for this person- what a long flight just to go straight back - not quite the trip he was looking forward to I am sure

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6 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Paper Passports are a complete nonense in the modern world.

Definitely worth a discussion.

Passports as we know them are a relatively recent item. Late 1800's perhaps

Twelve years ago I returned to Australia to sell my appartment, of course her indoors tagged along as I was going for 3 months. I fixed everything up for her visa wise, then the s**t hit the fan when we arrived at Melbourne Airport. The immigration took her into a room and I demanded to be with her as she was my legal wife. I was told that her Thai passport was invalid as it had an unacceptable date of birth. When I checked her passport I noticed there was only the month and year she was born, no day. I told the officer that if he checked the data base he would see that she was accepted on two other occasions with me using the same passport. After an hour or so I requested to speak to the person in charge. At last commonsense prevailed and I was told to make sure that the DOB is corrected before any future trips. So back in Thailand we went to all the appropiate offices. Even the office in Korat where she was registered. Typical Thais no one would bite the bullet and type in a new day number. It doesn't really matter now as my travelling days are over. It's just another warning that people should check all their documents or do a very expensive U turn cutting short their holidays.

12 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

Being thick and stupid is no excuse, entry denied

I don’t know about that. Take a walk around Pattaya the amount of stupid people walking around will astound you. 🙈

On the other hand, with that horrific habbit with Thai immigration to staple all small documents on the passport, it has also lead to troubles leaving or entering. Thai immigration needs to be banned from using staples. Yes, you can tell the person behind the counter not to staple, but will they listen to a foreigner with a minimum of respect ?

A page removed from a PP invalidates it. Immigration did the correct thing in refusing entry. You need a valid document to enter almost any country. The airline must return him.

For those who believe he didn't know, the dog ate it or a child tore it out is naive. The reason people remove pages from their travel document is to hide something such as an overstay or deportation. All lie about it.

I dealt with a number of such cases in my former career.

15 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

The big deal is that the page not being available means that no one will know what was on it or whether it was totally blank!

Does it matter ? no one knows what was in my passport last year, as I have a new one this year.

It does seem rather petty to deny him entry due to such a minor matter - a warning about the damage and to renew the passport would have not gone amiss here.

18 minutes ago, Old Croc said:

A page removed from a PP invalidates it. Immigration did the correct thing in refusing entry. You need a valid document to enter almost any country. The airline must return him.

For those who believe he didn't know, the dog ate it or a child tore it out is naive. The reason people remove pages from their travel document is to hide something such as an overstay or deportation. All lie about it.

I dealt with a number of such cases in my former career.

If he wanted to get rid of 'stamp evidence' that there was an overstay etc - renewing his passport does the job.

Damage happens - though I'm not sure how he'd not notice a page missing - but if someone else did....

After one of the other 'rip-in-page' thread - I had to check my passports as they get heavy use, and yes, some of the pages have minor damage.

Considering this is the most important document we carry and the rules are so strict - they are not very robust.

6 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Does it matter ? no one knows what was in my passport last year, as I have a new one this year.

It does seem rather petty to deny him entry due to such a minor matter - a warning about the damage and to renew the passport would have not gone amiss here.

A page being torn out of your passport is hardly "minor".

He would be refused entry in just about every country.

Thai Immigration office used to staple my 90-Day report slip on a page in my Belgian passport.

They stopped doing that some time ago as stapling a page is materially defacing the passport.

Very minor damage, indeed, but I understand the rationale that the passport must be intact 100%.

Now the 90-D paper slip is just attached with a simple paper clip.

6 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Does it matter ? no one knows what was in my passport last year, as I have a new one this year.

It does seem rather petty to deny him entry due to such a minor matter - a warning about the damage and to renew the passport would have not gone amiss here.

To lock him up in a holding cell .. now you know what Thai immigration really think of farang

Had a very cheap American friend who didn't want to pay for new US passport, so he steamed off an old Thai visa, one that takes up an entire page so he could squeeze one more trip in. He got a good stiff talking to from immigration but they still let him in.

I think it was 30-40 years ago I heard that some mid east countries wouldn't let you in if your passport indicated you'd been to Israel, so Israel would give separate paper visas. Or so I was told...

21 minutes ago, Emdog said:

I think it was 30-40 years ago I heard that some mid east countries wouldn't let you in if your passport indicated you'd been to Israel, so Israel would give separate paper visas. Or so I was told...

That's still true today. Tourists entering Israel at Ben Gurion Airport get a paper "visa slip" to carry with their passport instead of a stamp. The slip is returned when they leave Israel.

People who want an Israeli visa stamp in their passports for sentimental reasons and figure they will never visit an Arab country can ask for a visa stamp, but visa slips are given by default.

8 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

The big deal is that the page not being available means that no one will know what was on it or whether it was totally blank!

Does it matter ? no one knows what was in my passport last year, as I have a new one this year

Yes, it does matter when the passport is current and is being used to travel. That torn out page could have detailed information relevant to any immigration authority.

Your reference to your expired (and therefore invalid and unusable passport) is completely irrelevant.

2 hours ago, Will27 said:

A page being torn out of your passport is hardly "minor".

He would be refused entry in just about every country.

Exactly. A page being torn out of a passport is major damage, if not destruction of the passport, because it makes the document invalid and there is no country, anywhere, that (legally) would allow a passport with a ripped-out page to be used to enter that country.

23 hours ago, BritManToo said:

90 day report

registered address

Arrival card

COVID vaccination certificate

Are the 4 stapled in my passport.

And which could easily be kept on a phone or PC.

Does the Arrival Card still exist? No TM30 in your Passport? Address is on your Driving Licence or Pink ID card.

1 hour ago, pixelaoffy said:

To lock him up in a holding cell .. now you know what Thai immigration really think of farang

He was detained in a holding cell because he refused to sign the documentation required to expedite the process that he had involved himself in. The tens of millions of foreign visitors who travel with valid documentation and who experience no problems entering the country already know "what Thai immigration really think of foreigners"...IOs have no issue with them.

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Yes, it does matter when the passport is current and is being used to travel. That torn out page could have detailed information relevant to any immigration authority.

Your reference to your expired (and therefore invalid and unusable passport) is completely irrelevant.

Not at all. The reference to an expired and renewed passport is entirely relevant, because your original argument rests on your / the claim that the missing page could contain information relevant to immigration authorities. If that were truly essential information, then it would logically have to appear in any replacement passport. Yet it does not.

If a traveller renews their passport two weeks before departure, the new passport contains none of the historical information from the previous document - no old stamps, no prior visas, no travel history. By your logic, that absence would equally deprive immigration authorities of supposedly “relevant information”. Yet travellers with newly issued passports are admitted every day without issue. That alone undermines the premise that the missing page materially affects immigration decision-making.

In reality, the only meaningful question is the legal status of the document itself. Many regulations state that a passport must not be damaged or altered, and that is the rule immigration officers rely upon. My point is simply that the rationale behind this rule is increasingly outdated in an era where entry records, visa data, and travel history are held digitally within immigration systems, not inferred from ink stamps on paper pages.

Whether the passport holder previously travelled to other countries is largely irrelevant in this context. A newly issued passport would not contain that information anyway. The only records that matter to the receiving country - in this example, Thailand - are their own electronic immigration records, which already track entries and exits.

For that reason, treating a tear, water stain, or partially damaged page as grounds to refuse entry - rather than issuing a warning - feels disproportionate. The issue is procedural compliance with the “no damage” rule, not the loss of any meaningful immigration intelligence.

4 hours ago, Will27 said:

A page being torn out of your passport is hardly "minor".

He would be refused entry in just about every country.

Legally it is a 'major issue' - but realistically, from any other perspective the missing page is of little relevance to the Norwegians entry to Thailand - the missing page is a legal technicality - In many cases the Immigration Officer would not have even noticed it - It was reported that the Visitor had travelled in and out on two earlier visits with the same passport - the page could have also been missing then.

Perhaps there is more to this story: And the Visitor had 'ripped out' and overstay stamp, and that was registered digitally in the Immigration System - and hence the rejection (just guessing of course).

On 3/6/2026 at 11:33 AM, sqwakvfr said:

Do that as well but was told at IMM at the next 90 day report "where is the form"? Best way might be to keep the actual 90 day report form in a seperate place and only bring it out at the nex 90 day report.

That is what I do. I print out the form and keep it in my passport, but NOT stapled. If I need to take my passport somewhere I put the 90 day form somewhere safe until I get back

3 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

That's still true today. Tourists entering Israel at Ben Gurion Airport get a paper "visa slip" to carry with their passport instead of a stamp. The slip is returned when they leave Israel.

The Cuban government used to do that to American passports. I'm not sure if they still do it. Times have changed.

Off topic troll post removed @flaming dragon this is the news section, not for your fantasy rumours and nonsense.

15 hours ago, pixelaoffy said:

To lock him up in a holding cell .. now you know what Thai immigration really think of farang

It's normal almost anywhere to hold someone, without permission to enter, in custody until their flight departs. Airports often have holding cells the public doesnt know about.

The public have little concept about the numbers of and lengths to which some criminals will go, to gain entry to a country. Not everyone sitting on a plane is a harmless little tourist, even if they share your particular citizenship.

On 3/6/2026 at 9:04 AM, TheFishman1 said:

If the last page of his passport is totally blank and by accident it got torn out I’m not sure what the big deal is they could check their records to see if he was an overstay or once or something I think that to send them home right away seems kind of drastic they have computers to check to see if you ever came into the country TIT

Removing a complete page from a passport is a major red flag. There could be any reason to do so, all dodgy. Pages in a passport are generally doubled up. If one is gone the other half could also be missing or altered.

I've seen passports that have had pages seemingly surgically removed, or with the stitching unpicked and expertly redone. Photo substitution used to be a thing in the days before photo holagrams and similar. I've seen passports that had been torn in half and flushed down the aircraft toilet so the holder could claim to be a stateless refugee.

Maybe a honest mistake if he knew he may have got a new passport before travel.Any damage on passports make it invalid i believe