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So Why did Trump Start this War?

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So why did Trump decide to start a war with Iran? Does he even know? Does anyone in his Administration know?

 

Why he is now trying to declare victory and call it off is readily apparent: oil and the stock market. Trump saw oil approaching $120/bbl and Dow futures down 1200 pts pre-market on Monday and decided to make up a definition for “victory”, claim he had achieved it, and do it WHILE the markets were open (I’ll also guess his buddies and sons went long equity futures and short oil before Trump’s CBS interview.) . Taco was just being taco again. That is abundantly clear.

 

Still, the question remains: why did he start a war?

 

Was it to carry out regime change? I guess technically he achieved that last week, as Ayatollah Khamenei was killed in an early strike. On the other hand, Khamenei’s son seems to have taken over, and he is more hardline than his father, and the regime is at least as popular in Iran as Trump is in the US, though neither is anything to brag about. Iran doesn’t even need to change the official letterhead of the President’s office, as it will still read “From the Desk of Ayatollah Khamenei”.

 

Was it because, as his WH mouthpiece Leavitt said, he “had a hunch” Iran was going to attack the US? Well, unless Trump also had a hunch a major and massive tectonic plate shift was about to occur on Earth, moving Iran a few thousand miles closer to the US, Iran was incapable of directing any sort of attack against the US.

 

How about the slaughter of protesters carried out by the regime recently? I doubt anyone on this planet thinks Trump gives a flying eff for any brown person, especially a Moslem one. That would be crocodile tears at best, if Trump claimed that. Besides, Trump’s penpal Loverboy in North Korea has killed far more of his subjects. In fact, recently Kim Jong-un executed schoolchildren for the “crime” of watching pirated copies of The Squid Game. Kim even made other schoolchildren watch the executions, in order to send a message. The DPRK has between 65,000 and 100,000 people in “re-education camps”, sentenced for what are essentially “thought crimes”. Also during Kim Jong-un’s reign of terror, at least 1 million North Koreans have died of starvation, all while Kim enjoys as lavish a lifestyle as a miscreant like him can create in a hermit kingdom. The DPRK, however, gets a pass, because Kim already has workable nukes, even miniaturized nukes that can be loaded on to a Hwasong 20 rocket capable of reaching the US. If only the Ayatollah had sent love letters praising Trump.

 

Trump announced early on that he was starting a war in order to eliminate Iran’s nuclear program, something he boasted already about doing back in July 2025. If Iran was able to restart the program and already enrich U235 to weapons’ grade level of 93%, after never having been able to get above 50%, that is astonishing manufacturing ability, from which the rest of the world could learn a lesson. Of course Trump is lying, likely lying twice. He probably did not destroy Iran’s ability to get to 50% enrichment back in July, and no way Iran could have reached 93% by February 2026. One cannot just go down to the local HomePro and buy high speed centrifuges.

 

As the possibilities for the justification are eliminated, what’s left?

 

Maybe SecState Rubio spoke the truth on Day One of the war when he said Israel was going to strike, and despite the US not being ready, the US had no choice but to join in. That’s hardly “America First”, but then again, Trump campaigned on “no foreign wars” and “no regime change”. I guess if Trump was going to break two promises, he might as well go for the Trifecta.

 

There is another possible excuse, which might be summed up partly with the old saying, “To a man with a hammer, everything looks like a nail.” Trump presides over an incredible military with capabilities that are simply astonishing. As a power hungry miscreant, Trump is wont to use it. He seems to take great joy in his ability to blow up stuff simply by ordering that it be done. That is as god-like as any human can be, and we all know Trump like to consider himself a messiah, if not semi-divine. He probably got bored just blowing up little boats in the Caribbean, even if some belonged to drug cartels, though some were just fishing boats from Trinidad in the wrong place at the wrong time. He wanted big explosions, so Iran was his canvass. Too bad it seems the US struck an elementary school killing upwards of 180 pre teen girls, though Trump is trying to claim it wasn’t the US. Privately, I would be willing to bet not only does he know the US did it, but it probably thrills him that he blew up 180 little brown Moslem girls.

 

Finally, it may be that in some oddball way, Trump thought he could steal Iran’s oil, trying to play an 18th or 19th Century European monarch living the Kipling-esque dream of Colonialism and The White Man’s Burden. Certainly Lindsey Graham thought that, as over the weekend Graham hit the Sunday talk show exclaiming “how much money we’re going to make selling Iran’s oil”, sounding like a little kid on Christmas.

 

Whatever Trump’s excuse, both the tumbling stock market and what Trump calls the “affordability hoax” got him to play taco yet again. As far as Trump is concerned, the war---whoops! Now he wants it just called an “excursion”, kind of like when one takes a weekend trip down to Hua Hin---is over. Iran may have other plans, though that remains to be seen.

 

One thing is certain: every developing nation on the planet sees “Iran attacked” and “North Korea ignored”. The primary difference is nukes. The world is going to see an arms race the likes of which it has never seen, and with nuke scientists similar to the late for-hire nuke guy AQ Khan, plus lots of 93% U235 and lots of plutonium floating around on the Black Market from the former Soviet Union, that race is going to move into top gear.

 

 

 

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That Jewish elder statesman was asked how

able to contain the Generals over some

crisis involving the Arabs .

He said that was easy, they knew war .

It was the politicians who were the problem !

Think Bush Blair and now this one !

The Jews did it, why are you even questioning it? Are you changing your mind?

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2 hours ago, Yagoda said:

The Jews did it

You accidentally posted some truth instead of your regular, unhinged gibberish.

Just now, t0mt0m said:

You accidentally posted some truth instead of your regular, unhinged gibberish.

Well I know you agree with that. Whats their end game do you think?

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14 hours ago, Wingate said:

So why did Trump decide to start a war with Iran?

Because Kushner and Witkoff told him to.

From ABC News:

The president spoke with his envoys Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner by phone on Thursday, multiple sources said.

In a phone call Saturday, the president told ABC News that talks between the U.S. and Iran had been going "very well." He added, "But in the end, we didn't think they were going to get there. And they would've had in a fairly short period of time some very fairly big nuclear capacity and we were not going to put up with that."

The CIA had been tracking Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei for months, tracking his daily movements, a person familiar with the intelligence told ABC News. When they learned there would be a meeting of top leaders on Saturday with the Supreme Leader, the timing of the attack was moved.

https://abc7chicago.com/live-updates/iran-live-updates-trump-says-major-combat-operations-have-begun/18660347/entry/18665562

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33 minutes ago, gargamon said:

Bibi told him to.

Doesn't sound very MAGA ?

14 minutes ago, Jim Blue said:

Doesn't sound very MAGA ?

Bibi decides what MAGA is. And all this time you thought Putin controlled Trump lol

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15 hours ago, Wingate said:

Finally, it may be that in some oddball way, Trump thought he could steal Iran’s oil, trying to play an 18th or 19th Century European monarch living the Kipling-esque dream of Colonialism and The White Man’s Burden. Certainly Lindsey Graham thought that, as over the weekend Graham hit the Sunday talk show exclaiming “how much money we’re going to make selling Iran’s oil”, sounding like a little kid on Christmas.

There is an awful inevitability about that paragraph. Oddball yes, bizarre even (after all it had that extraordinary fellow Lindsey Graham "onside") but certainly capable of being dreamed up by Trump and his cronies' chaotic and greed driven thought processes.

But, at the end of the day, it was, is, quite simply the biggest yet deflection from the mounting evidence of his past perverted sexual behaviour, evidence which continues to trickle out like the leakage from a badly fitted nappy! Hugely expensive, ruinous to swathes of the world's economies, and claiming the lives of thousands, including the particular evil of rocketing that school.

That last one, the terrible satellite photographs of the rows of graves, the awfull footage of the incoming missile, the callous way in which it has been casually dismissed by so many agencies political and military, will define Donald Trump's war, will taint the world's view of the United States for a long time to come.

I for one when I hear the utterances of Trump on "American exceptionalism" patriotism, service or see the banal posturing of that drunken fool Hegseth will always see those terrible images.

The Iranian theocratic regime is cruel, savage and despicable. But this war was wicked, and the man who unleashed it will be damned for it. What a foul legacy, and he has dragged the US into the filth he wallows in.

15 hours ago, Wingate said:

It probably thrills him that he blew up 180 little brown Moslem girls.

Disagree with you here. He doesn't care about anyone, maybe his family but not sure about that. So he'll be totally indifferent to blowing up 180 brown muslin girls.

15 hours ago, Wingate said:

So why did Trump decide to start a war with Iran? Does he even know? Does anyone in his Administration know?

Terrorist acts against Americans scattered over several decades.

And more to come, probably. They are hostile to US.

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Trump started the war to give the OP something to complain about. No other reason.

20 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Disagree with you here. He doesn't care about anyone, maybe his family but not sure about that. So he'll be totally indifferent to blowing up 180 brown muslin girls.

Iran killed 36,500 in 2 days. Innocent protestors. You Trump haters are so full of hate you can't see the bias.

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10 minutes ago, khaosokman said:

Iran killed 36,500 in 2 days. Innocent protestors. You Trump haters are so full of hate you can't see the bias.

Who says that ?

Western media and/or US/israeli mouthpieces ?

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13 minutes ago, khaosokman said:

Iran killed 36,500 in 2 days. Innocent protestors. You Trump haters are so full of hate you can't see the bias.

Kim Jong-un---you know, the guy with whom Trump exchanges love letters---had schoolchildren executed because they watched pirated copies of The Squid Game. Kim made other schoolchildren watch schoolchildren being shot.

Not a word from Trump on that horror. No military buildup in East Asia; in fact, weapons systems have been pulled from South Korea, because the US was running low in the Middle East.

Kim Jong-un has been starving his people for years, even when Trump was writing love letters. Does it require 36,500 in 2 days (even if you numbers are correct), or if a million die of starvation over a period of years, that's acceptable?

You Trump lovers are so full of worship and adoration, you can't see the bias. And please, suze, you couldn't care less about dead Iranians. Don't pretend.

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In a recent presser, Trump essentially admitted it was Tomahawk missiles that hit the girls elementary school. When asked by a NYT's reporter, Trump claimed that it was likely a "stolen US Tomahawk" Iran used to hit the school itself. He used these "I've been told...." lie.

Nobody told him that. Plus, it was a double tap, so according to Trump 2 US Tomahawks had been stolen by Iran and used in a false flag against the school.

Nobody else has said that, just Trump.

4 minutes ago, Wingate said:

In a recent presser, Trump essentially admitted it was Tomahawk missiles that hit the girls elementary school. When asked by a NYT's reporter, Trump claimed that it was likely a "stolen US Tomahawk" Iran used to hit the school itself. He used these "I've been told...." lie.

Nobody told him that. Plus, it was a double tap, so according to Trump 2 US Tomahawks had been stolen by Iran and used in a false flag against the school.

Nobody else has said that, just Trump.

Daily murders 1250+. Who apologies for that?

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28 minutes ago, khaosokman said:

Iran killed 36,500 in 2 days. Innocent protestors. You Trump haters are so full of hate you can't see the bias.

So, what changed since Trump started his war?

Khamenei was replaced by Khamenei, wow, what a great achievement.

Accountability for the regime in Iran? Trump is not even interested in accountability...

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2 minutes ago, khaosokman said:

You care about dead people in Iran and NK? No you don't. You are a Trump hating troll who is bored with life.

Suze, "bored with life" is a guy who has posted 200,000 times under about ten screen names, and seemingly spends every waking hour churning out one liners with no value or merit.

Some people check out this site once or twice a day, and then hit the gym, hit the office, meet with friends (Google that word "Friends", suze, as that concept is alien to you) and enjoy the wonders that life offers.

Think back to your days as a schoolboy. Did you ever imagine you would be where you are today, friendless, Incel-ish, living what remains of your banal existence posting 200 times a day on a Forum, scrapping up 30 baht for a street food Pad Thai and a 500 baht a night flophouse....or did you still harbor delusions that somehow you would achieve even a minor degree of success in life? Would Mama suze think it was worth her pain and discomfort to tote around your zygote and fetus for nine long months?

2 minutes ago, khaosokman said:

Daily murders 1250+. Who apologies for that?

in countries with corrupt leaderships murders happen. Doesn't matter if 2 or 1250...

3 minutes ago, zappalot said:

So, what changed since Trump started his war?

Khamenei was replaced by Khamenei, wow, what a great achievement.

Accountability for the regime in Iran? Trump is not even interested in accountability...

Navy sunk. Less military bases. It is about making the nation weaker. Trump has achieved a lot in 2 weeks.

Bush and Obama spent years before achieving as much.

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3 minutes ago, khaosokman said:

Navy sunk. Less military bases. It is about making the nation weaker. Trump has achieved a lot in 2 weeks.

Bush and Obama spent years before achieving as much.

They will rebuild it, no problem for them, they have the support of China and Russia.

The war already makes Russia happy as urgently needed money is brought in by Trump allowing other Nations to import Russian oil to much higher prices than a month earlier.

The US does not have an unlimited supply of Patriots, so in the end they have to give in, the Iranians just need to go after the desalination plants along the Gulf coast long enough to get the war turning to their advantage...

Just now, zappalot said:

They will rebuild it, no problem for them, they have the support of China and Russia.

The war already makes Russia happy as urgently needed money is brought in by Trump allowing other Nations to import Russian oil to much higher prices than a month earlier.

The US does not have an unlimited supply of Patriots, so in the end they have to give in, the Iranians just need to go after the desalination plants along the Gulf coast long enough to get the war turning to their advantage...

Russia gets its oil from Siberia mostly.

3 minutes ago, zappalot said:

They will rebuild it, no problem for them, they have the support of China and Russia.

The war already makes Russia happy as urgently needed money is brought in by Trump allowing other Nations to import Russian oil to much higher prices than a month earlier.

The US does not have an unlimited supply of Patriots, so in the end they have to give in, the Iranians just need to go after the desalination plants along the Gulf coast long enough to get the war turning to their advantage...

Top 3 trading partners are China, India and Turkey.

Iran means little to anyone.

You forget who benefits most right now: Saudi Arabia. They replace Iran delivering oil to China.

Now, did you ever look how deep Trump benefited from doing business with Saudi Arabia?

5 minutes ago, khaosokman said:

Iran means little to anyone.

Then why spend billions to attack it? Ridiculous...

41 minutes ago, FlorC said:

Who says that ?

Western media and/or US/israeli mouthpieces ?

It does seem the 30k or so protesters killed is a big overstatement. More accurate numbers are being said to be around 5-7k. 7000 Iranians gunned down by their own government and the loony left on here calls Trump a dictator.

8 minutes ago, zappalot said:

You forget who benefits most right now: Saudi Arabia. They replace Iran delivering oil to China.

Now, did you ever look how deep Trump benefited from doing business with Saudi Arabia?

Iran and SA hate each other. America has been friendly with SA for ages as they picked a side.

3 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

It does seem the 30k or so protesters killed is a big overstatement. More accurate numbers are being said to be around 5-7k. 7000 Iranians gunned down by their own government and the loony left on here calls Trump a dictator.

36500 is nationwide not 1 city

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