3 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

Trump has a mandate. He was elected.

Congress has not blocked him and they too have a mandate because they were elected.

Polling results are not a valid mandate.

Read what Trump said. He is pointing out that if the countries who need the middle east LNG and oil want to more quickly access it again, they can come and get it by securing its safe passage.

China is in good shape. It has a 6 month reserve.

North America does not need it because it is energy self sufficient.

Africa has local energy sources.

The world's oil and gas producers outside the region are laughing all the way to the bank. Russia is making windfall profits.

It is Europe and the UK along with North Asia who are in trouble. The UK is in panic mode.

Trump is a madman he thinks this war is funny!! you Yanks have a lot to answer for, unleashing a war monger onto the world

20 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

It is estimated that Afghanistan has as much as 1,000×10⁶ m³ (36×10⁹ cu ft) of natural gas, 570×10⁶ m³ (3.6 Gbbl) of oil and condensate reserves.

Sounds great. Who is going to extract it and sell it? During my last deployment the "talk" was A-stan had unlimited deposits of rare earth minerals. This sounds great as well.

12 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

Trump has a mandate. He was elected.

Congress has not blocked him and they too have a mandate because they were elected.

Polling results are not a valid mandate.

Read what Trump said. He is pointing out that if the countries who need the middle east LNG and oil want to more quickly access it again, they can come and get it by securing its safe passage.

China is in good shape. It has a 6 month reserve.

North America does not need it because it is energy self sufficient.

Africa has local energy sources.

The world's oil and gas producers outside the region are laughing all the way to the bank. Russia is making windfall profits.

It is Europe and the UK along with North Asia who are in trouble. The UK is in panic mode.

Inflation in the US, especially gas, and pressure will force trump's hand.

1 minute ago, sqwakvfr said:

Sounds great. Who is going to extract it and sell it? During my last deployment the "talk" was A-stan had unlimited deposits of rare earth minerals. This sounds great as well.

Just pointing out that "There is no oil in Afghanistan" is incorrect !!!

5 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Inflation in the US, especially gas, and pressure will force trump's hand.

Most likely. In the meantime, the oil and gas companies are making nice profits and the taxes on those profits will help. The munitions makers and other related sectors are going to do well too. The profits will be taxed too. Some will get wealthier, and the poor will get poorer.

11 minutes ago, sqwakvfr said:

Sounds great. Who is going to extract it and sell it? During my last deployment the "talk" was A-stan had unlimited deposits of rare earth minerals. This sounds great as well.

It is why India and Pakistan have been squabbling over influence in Afghanistan.

1 hour ago, Patong2021 said:

It is why India and Pakistan have been squabbling over influence in Afghanistan.

Geography. Pakistan is not that broad and Afghanistan is Pakistan's hinterland in case of war with India.

3 hours ago, sqwakvfr said:

There is no oil in Afghanistan. Did two deployments there.

Afghanistan was not a war of choice, but a war of necessity

8 minutes ago, K2938 said:

Afghanistan was not a war of choice, but a war of necessity

And America got its arse kicked by the Taliban

18 hours ago, stevenl said:

Not falling for your baiting.

Yeah you have no defense for your position

51 minutes ago, K2938 said:

Afghanistan was not a war of choice, but a war of necessity

Yes but we continued even after the killing of Osama Bin Laden. This is because by then "nation building" was in full effect. When were you in A-stan? I was there in 2005-2006 and 2010-2011.

42 minutes ago, sqwakvfr said:

Yes but we continued even after the killing of Osama Bin Laden. This is because by then "nation building" was in full effect. When were you in A-stan? I was there in 2005-2006 and 2010-2011.

yes you continued and got your arse kick by the Taliban all those Americans killed for WHAT !! another Failed war by the yanks !! what you did there and now is nothing to be proud of the yanks Failed !!

2 hours ago, EastBayRay said:

Yeah you have no defense for your position

LOL. What is my position according to you?

1 hour ago, MikeandDow said:

yes you continued and got your arse kick by the Taliban all those Americans killed for WHAT !! another Failed war by the yanks !! what you did there and now is nothing to be proud of the yanks Failed !!

"you"? What do you know about the service of myself and fellow servicemembers. The answer is NOTHING. I am proud of my service in both deployments. I will maintain some level of diginity and not stoop to your level.

6 minutes ago, sqwakvfr said:

"you"? What do you know about the service of myself and fellow servicemembers. The answer is NOTHING. I am proud of my service in both deployments. I will maintain some level of diginity and not stoop to your level.

Good !! brain washed yank beliving he fought for freedom !! well look what you fought for in Afganistan the represesion of woman and children, Sharia Law bet thses people are thanking you for your service

23 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

But Trump was voted in.

Many dictators in history initially came to power through legitimate, democratic elections before systematically dismantling democratic institutions, removing term limits, and suppressing opposition to turn their rule into an autocracy

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7 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

Good !! brain washed yank beliving he fought for freedom !! well look what you fought for in Afganistan the represesion of woman and children, Sharia Law bet thses people are thanking you for your service

So saying "I am proud of my service" means I was brainwashed? Very insightful? Do you have another uniimformed "pearls of wisdom". "Sharia law bet thses(?) people are thanking you for your service??? This does not make any sense at all.

10 minutes ago, sqwakvfr said:

So saying "I am proud of my service" means I was brainwashed? Very insightful? Do you have another uniimformed "pearls of wisdom". "Sharia law bet thses(?) people are thanking you for your service??? This does not make any sense at all.

10 minutes ago, sqwakvfr said:

So saying "I am proud of my service" means I was brainwashed? Very insightful? Do you have another uniimformed "pearls of wisdom". "Sharia law bet thses(?) people are thanking you for your service??? This does not make any sense at all.

It means your "nation building" was a failure the american who died was a failure and a waste

On 3/14/2026 at 4:58 PM, fredwiggy said:

I asked a question. if you're going to deride the US, I'd like to know what country you're from and see if it also makes mistakes. Trump is the president, but decisions are still made through Congress, especially if they're going to continue. He's not a war monger. he just decided to do something the previous few didn't.

What planet are you on? Trump has wilfully and unconstitutionally bypassed Congress to start this war. Not a warmonger? after Venezuala, now Iran and next Cuba! I still can’t understand why he didn’t get the Nobel Peace Prize.🤡

2 hours ago, MikeandDow said:

It means your "nation building" was a failure the american who died was a failure and a waste

Then what did you mean by refering to Sharia Law? Actually Americans died in the Afghan Conflict. Approximately 2500 died during the years 2001 and 2021. I do not disagree with your conclusion . But my service and the service of all service members in Afghanistan was not a failure nor a waste. Does service, honor and dignity mean anything to you?

1 minute ago, sqwakvfr said:

Then what did you mean by refering to Sharia Law? Actually Americans died in the Afghan Conflict. Approximately 2500 died during the years 2001 and 2021. I do not disagree with your conclusion . But my service and the service of all service members in Afghanistan was not a failure nor a waste. Does service, honor and dignity mean anything to you?

Your Natinal building was to bring democorcy to afgan NOT Sharia law which represses woman and children, Sharia is the body of Islamic religious law based on scriptures of Islam, particularly the Quran and hadith. In Islamic terminology, sharia refers to immutable and intangible divine law, in contrast to fiqh, which refers to its interpretations by Islamic scholars through madhhab, as enacted by an Islamic court.

Afgan is a closed off country with hatred again the yanks so you failed in your mission to "nation building" I was in the navy so service, honor and dignity i understand but i have been on failed mission for my goverment but i am NOT proud of them !! nor the goverment that i severd in you goverment FAILED in afganistan FAILED in keeping its Promise to the afgans who help the usa and where killed by the taliban for doing so keep telling yourself afgan was not a failure just look it up on google

The 20-year U.S. war in Afghanistan is widely characterized as a

strategic failure, concluding with the rapid collapse of the U.S.-backed government and the return of the Taliban in August 2021. Despite billions spent on training Afghan forces, the mission failed to build a stable, autonomous state

On 3/14/2026 at 11:08 AM, fredwiggy said:

Yanks aren't all gullible, the same as all those from your country aren't all gullible. Many didn't want Trump, along with many who voted for him not wanting him now, but this isn't all about Trump anyway.

Think of how many Iranians still like their leader, along with their new leader, who will likely follow suit with more genocide. Genocide which is a major reason the US gets involved in anything. Thinking these maniacal leaders should stay in power is stupidity, and wanting Americans to die is also stupid.

If it wasn't for Americans, you would likely not be living where you are, and if they lose, which they won't this would bring down hell on earth in all countries. Trump's decisions still have to be agreed to by others, in the long run especially. I'm thinking some here are okay with what these terrorists have done over the years, because it hasn't yet affected them. If it doesn't stop, eliminating all the crazy leaders and their protege is the only way the world will ever have peace, as they are prone to hit most anywhere at any time, as history has proven. America and Israel aren't the only targets of these loons

And for your last post, thinking all Americans are fat arrogant loudmouths you're wrong, guessing you really haven't met many besides the few you might have gotten drunk with or around while serving in the Navy. I lived there 62 years, and most of the people I met were good people, with a scattering of dickheads, much like all over.

As far as the OP, if America is going to join the ground battle, Iran is going to be hurting even more, as that ground battle comes with helicopters and planes to back them, Iran having no air. You have no air, you lose.

The problem is how many US soldiers the Iranians will take down with them? Even if they lose.

None of Trump's offspring will be enlisting, and he really doesn't give a flying <deleted> about anyone else.

On 3/14/2026 at 8:38 PM, K2938 said:

The United States is very lucky. Whenever they fight for freedom, it turns out that there is oil

That's why Cuba is next on the list:

Yes, Cuba has several oil fields, primarily offshore, with three producing oil fields located within 5 km of its north coast. Estimates suggest that Cuba's total oil reserves could be as high as 20 billion barrels, mostly in offshore deposits.

7 minutes ago, phetphet said:

The problem is how many US soldiers the Iranians will take down with them? Even if they lose.

None of Trump's offspring will be enlisting, and he really doesn't give a flying <deleted> about anyone else.

Its terrible to say it but that might be the answer if the american try to take this island and get a real bloody nose ( american dead ) trump might back off and stop as the american public would not want this !!

9 hours ago, MikeandDow said:

Your Natinal building was to bring democorcy to afgan NOT Sharia law which represses woman and children, Sharia is the body of Islamic religious law based on scriptures of Islam, particularly the Quran and hadith. In Islamic terminology, sharia refers to immutable and intangible divine law, in contrast to fiqh, which refers to its interpretations by Islamic scholars through madhhab, as enacted by an Islamic court.

Afgan is a closed off country with hatred again the yanks so you failed in your mission to "nation building" I was in the navy so service, honor and dignity i understand but i have been on failed mission for my goverment but i am NOT proud of them !! nor the goverment that i severd in you goverment FAILED in afganistan FAILED in keeping its Promise to the afgans who help the usa and where killed by the taliban for doing so keep telling yourself afgan was not a failure just look it up on google

The 20-year U.S. war in Afghanistan is widely characterized as a

strategic failure, concluding with the rapid collapse of the U.S.-backed government and the return of the Taliban in August 2021. Despite billions spent on training Afghan forces, the mission failed to build a stable, autonomous state

Do you know the diference between overall strategic mission and invidual service and sacrifice? I knew people who died while serving in Afghanistan. They did not fail. Our leaders did.

17 minutes ago, sqwakvfr said:

Do you know the diference between overall strategic mission and invidual service and sacrifice? I knew people who died while serving in Afghanistan. They did not fail. Our leaders did.

Now you get it !! iam not questioning your service, but i am questioning the leadership !! as i have said all along, and part of my statement was" brainwashed" which means make (someone) adopt radically different beliefs by using systematic and often forcible pressure, and thats what happened !! in other words you and others were fed BS by your leaders, and it is happing again with trump !! the guy is a madman !! thinks bombing is FUN! Mark Kelly is right by advising service members that they are not obligated to follow unlawful orders.  so my question to you would you go to Iran to follow a madman in an illegal war ??

20 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

Now you get it !! iam not questioning your service, but i am questioning the leadership !! as i have said all along, and part of my statement was" brainwashed" which means make (someone) adopt radically different beliefs by using systematic and often forcible pressure, and thats what happened !! in other words you and others were fed BS by your leaders, and it is happing again with trump !! the guy is a madman !! thinks bombing is FUN! Mark Kelly is right by advising service members that they are not obligated to follow unlawful orders.  so my question to you would you go to Iran to follow a madman in an illegal war ??

Ah, since you were in the Navy then you know this: Following orders is mandatory when one is on active duty . So I served and followed orders does not mean I am "brainwashed". If I was on active duty and received deployment orders to Iran or anywhere eles in the world I would have to obey. Did you forget that part when you took your oath of enlistment in the Navy? Military service members do not have the option to obey or disobey certain orders depending on their individual beleifs. Since most countries in the world do not have manadtory military service most of us are volunteers. Military service is not for all. I do not support the current POTUS in anyway but he is the CIC (Commander In Chief) and his orders are lawful until a court of law says otherwise. I would never follow Mark Kelly anwyhere.

19 hours ago, MikeandDow said:

Trump is a madman he thinks this war is funny!! you Yanks have a lot to answer for, unleashing a war monger onto the world

Who would us "yanks" answer to? You? The UN? The Court of Criminal Justice at the Hague? Be specific as to who us "yanks" would answer for the decisions made by POTUS.

1 minute ago, sqwakvfr said:

Who would us "yanks" answer to? You? The UN? The Court of Criminal Justice at the Hague? Be specific as to who us "yanks" would answer for the decisions made by POTUS.

So you answered my question YOU would follow a madman into an illegal war !! SAD !!!

On 3/14/2026 at 9:44 AM, MikeandDow said:

Another Rubbish post FULL of ASSUMPTIONS Typical yank full of hot air !!! believe anything

Well you started it!