Upvc Companies

[expatgaz]

Iam getting quotes and they vary quite a lot,but can anybody give me any experience they've had with

1.ARC Pataya

2.Euro PVC

3.WR VINYL

4.Token - Bangkok ??

5.SKR - I think Rayong or somewhere near there.

6.PSD - I think a forum sponser

Any help or any others you think I should try.Iam building in Pattaya area.

Rgds.

EPG.

[N47HAN]

Iam getting quotes and they vary quite a lot,but can anybody give me any experience they've had with

1.ARC Pataya

2.Euro PVC

3.WR VINYL

4.Token - Bangkok ??

5.SKR - I think Rayong or somewhere near there.

6.PSD - I think a forum sponser

Any help or any others you think I should try.Iam building in Pattaya area.

Rgds.

EPG.

Hi Epg ,

heres a post a placed a while ago

A breif explination of pvc

Pvc / Vinyl window systems are available now all over Thailand .

The actaul pvc is only part of the overall finished product. All fabricators will import this from various extrusion companies ( the "brand" name you may associate pvc with , i.e Veka , Thyssen , Kommerling etc.).

The quality of these extrusions varies dramatically from company and profile . The main agent for giving Pvc its colour is Titanium dioxide and its the content of this within the profile wich will dictate if the pvc will discolour in time or not. When new they will all look exactly the same but i assure you there actual make up is not. This alone will dictate if the product will discolour in time or not. You should check the small print on the suppliers warranty some exclude the colour or give it a limited warranty others give a full 10 year warranty on colour.

It is interesting to note that people refer to the windows either by brand name or by individual fabricator and state their pros and cons to both. When infact the same fabricator may well be supplying two or even three different brand name profiles in the market place.

You really should remeber that when choosing a window supplier the pvc as stated above is only a Component of the finished system . Other questions should be asked also , Is the profile re-inforced ( is it galvanised steel ? what is the thickness of this ) ( a simple test to see if re-inforcemnt is being used is to run a magnet over the profile ) what hardware is used ( is it european , chinese ? , you Will find alot of suppliers offering "German" pvc windows and use chinese hardware and fittings to reduce costs).

This also extends to the locking systems used , are they full multi -point , simple finger locks , self cliping , brass , steel , stainless ?

As with all window systems as I stated before unless it is installed correctly you will reduce its benefits drastically. If you have made you decision as to wich supplier to use I highly recommend you visit previous installations and not just the ones they take you too but others they don't tell you about afterall if there taking you to see an existing customer they wouldn't take you to an unhappy one would they ?

General pricing for pvc per square meter is actually quite difficult as it depends on design , size , glass spec , hardware etc . etc. some companies will give an indication but would generally base this on a "typical design and size" and probably wont be what your after. That said an indication for a "standard" home replacement in single glass will range from around 2,500Thb to 5,000Thb per square meter depending on the quality your after and the options used.

A few advantages of pvc

Pvc during fabrication uses a friction weld on its corners rather than in aluminium where a "mechanical" joint is used so is much less exposed to water leakage

Sea salt air has no affect on Pvc as Aluminium will oxidise / corrode if scratched or exposed

The use of double / triple glazing is a standard option for pvc

It is the "greenest" option for windows for the envoiroment and is 100 % recyclable

Pvc is a very poor conductor of heat , the transmission of heat to the interior is considerably less than aluminium

It can be used for virtually any window design including arch and circular designs

The lifetime of a pvc window based on data from Euope is 40 years

Termites and such creatures do not attack pvc as they will in wooden subframes sometimes used by aluminium window systems

The use of Galvanised steel for structual strength

Full Multipoint lock options give higher spec security over standard aluminium frames

Hope the above makes things a little clearer Any more questions i'll try to answer with an unbiased reply

[stgrhe]

I selected ARC from our house. I had numerous technical discussions with their representative, who by the way also was an engineer, and looked to the details of the various details. ARC claims also that they would not compromise on the standards set by VEGA, Germany. ARC's approach has from the first day been very professional.

I also checked some of the other manufacturers and I assume WR Vinal would be equally good as ARC. Some of the other manufacturers products, although much cheaper, were not to my satisfaction.

[JimmyGreaves]

I selected ARC from our house. I had numerous technical discussions with their representative, who by the way also was an engineer, and looked to the details of the various details. ARC claims also that they would not compromise on the standards set by VEGA, Germany. ARC's approach has from the first day been very professional.

I also checked some of the other manufacturers and I assume WR Vinal would be equally good as ARC. Some of the other manufacturers products, although much cheaper, were not to my satisfaction.

Did you try Windsor they are very good?

[stgrhe]

I selected ARC from our house. I had numerous technical discussions with their representative, who by the way also was an engineer, and looked to the details of the various details. ARC claims also that they would not compromise on the standards set by VEGA, Germany. ARC's approach has from the first day been very professional.

I also checked some of the other manufacturers and I assume WR Vinal would be equally good as ARC. Some of the other manufacturers products, although much cheaper, were not to my satisfaction.

Did you try Windsor they are very good?

If you really study the differences you will find that Windsor use very week profiles. They were the first I eliminated before I decided on which company to buy from, but Windsor are cheap so if the budget is slim they can be an alternative.

[expatgaz]

agree windsor are of poorer quality.

I've selected European profiles rather than the cheaper options.

EPG.

[JimmyGreaves]

How about standard size external doors, has anyone managed to get a good build on a pvc door without it being 80% glass?

[stgrhe]

How about standard size external doors, has anyone managed to get a good build on a pvc door without it being 80% glass?

Do you mean a solid door without glass? I think, not hundred though, I saw one in either ARC or WR Vinal's show rooms last year in Pattaya. Why don't you call any of the companies and ask?

[JimmyGreaves]

Yes, been shopping around and nobody seems to have any examples, they all want to do outside frame with alot of glass.

Company called Finestre that I'm trying to contact now in bkk anyone have any experience of quality?

[stgrhe]

Yes, been shopping around and nobody seems to have any examples, they all want to do outside frame with alot of glass.

Company called Finestre that I'm trying to contact now in bkk anyone have any experience of quality?

They are using Chinese technology, which I was told when one of their staff when she slipped her tongue. I was consider them for a while but when I compared their products' finish and details with the Vega design's I dropped them. Having said that, they looked slightly better than Windsor's products though.

[N47HAN]

The reason that nearly all fabricators offer only glass is due to the door panels themselves...

There are only 2 or 3 companies in Europe that produce these door panels and the pvc used is VERY suseptable to UV light giving discolouration over time.

I would suggest to be very carefull when choosing these panels ( if indeed you can find them ).

However nearly all companies will be able to offer a "shiplap cladding" insert that uses the same make up of pvc as the exterior frames if glass is not wanted.