Hmmm.

I just received this email from the Royal Thai consulate in Hong Kong.

Now, I know she has gone to work in a HK bar, she left about 2 or 3 weeks ago.

Could this be real?

Should I be worried?

When we separated she had a bad ice problem and was very paranoid, she had people trying to kill her all around her and she desparately wanted me dead.

She has no idea where I am, but she knows where I was up until a few days ago. My girlfriend is still in my previous location (not in Thailand).

She had 3 houses from our marriage, and I know she gave the chanotes to the local loan shark so she could buy a new car.

I presume she had racked up a lot of drug debts so that is why she went to HK to try and make the money to pay her debts off.

If you have been following my story with my wife this might not come as a suprise.

But read the email and let me know what you think.

Is she in danger?

Are my kids, still living in Thailand in danger?

Is my girlfriend in Indo, living a house that the wife knows about in danger?

Am I in danger?

Or is this a paranoid delusion? a scream for help?

I have been told that before she left for HK her father beat the crap out of her, what reason I dont know.

Dear Mr. XXXX XXXX XXXX,

At the moment, your wife, Mrs. XXXXX XXXXX, is here at the Royal Thai Consulate-General in Hong Kong and wishes to contact you urgently as she claims you may be in imminent danger which we cannot yet prove as true yet, but if you could please phone me back at the Consulate, it would be most helpful to our investigation procedure as well as letting her talk to you in person.

Regards,

Atthapong Watthammawut

Consul

Royal Thai Consulate-General

Mob. +(852) 9748 5008

Tel. + (852) 2532 5114

Fax + (852) 2521 8629

No problems Tucky.

Q1? She is real.

Q2. Yes, be scared.

I Suggest to buy a lot of ice and go into hibernation.

She has a problem with ice. (guess she is Thai and not from Finland)

PS.

Never scream, she will hear it.

DS.

Tuky, I would suggest that she has made up this story to the Consulate so that you would call her, and then she's going to ask for money or whatever.

The email looks genuine, and you will know if it is the Consulate as soon as you phone.

Note they just say that "she claims..." She has obviously persuaded them to send the email so she can talk to you, and they have obliged her.

I see no reason why you should be in danger. If she was going to do something she would have done it long ago, and if she was involved in any plan to do you harm, why would she call you?

If you are strong enough mentally, I feel you have little to lose by calling her. If she gives you yet another bunch of BS, just hang up.

Use SKYPE or some other VOIP so that the call cannot be traced - not even to the country you are in.

Good luck, and take care.

Mobi

Tuky, you sure you don't wanna move this topic to DeeDee?

Atthapong Watthammawut

Consul

Royal Thai Consulate-General

Mob. +(852) 9748 5008

Tel. + (852) 2532 5114

Fax + (852) 2521 8629

Royal Thai Consulate HK

Atthapong Watthammawut, is on the web site.

I would call that number shown, not the one in your post above.

If it is genuine, you can hear what he has to say, you do not have to speak to her, unless, as Mobi says you are strong enough to do so, if you want to and then it is on your terms.

Are you in danger- No Idea

Is your girl friend in danger-No Idea- But put the necessary measures in place, don't open doors to people you don't know, don't answer the phone to a number you don't recognise ( you have number recognition right? If not, get it as a matter of urgency ) Any relatives near?

Police on speed dial and informed of the situation etc etc

Are your daughters in danger- Their mother and aunt have played the oldest profession in the world without any, it would appear, influence from the mother to stop it, the father, as related in your OP, is a daughter beater, you do the math.

My only recommendation would be to get them outta there and I don't care how.

Good Luck

Moss

Ok, well I think she is just drug fcuked.

She has been hiding out in the consulate because the HK mafia are supposedly chasing her.

The consulate are flying her back to Thailand today.

I cant believe the things this woman does.

How do you get the HK mafia after you?

I have an Australian ex-wife who also frightens the crap out of me.

I have no contact with her in anyway and ignore all attempts by her to contact me.

I've given up my step children with whom I had a reasonable relationship as she was using them as a pipeline.

Be selfish Tuky, put yourself first last and always.... it's the only way.

I wash my hands of it all.

Perhaps this time she will stop and think about what she is doing. Nah, that expectation is a little high, it will all be my fault as usual.

I must admit, I was concerned when I read the email, I checked the name and numbers and they are genuine so perhaps this time she is not just being paranoid.

SO I wanted to know if anyone else ever received an email like this one, and what came of it.

How the heck do you get yourself into trouble like this?

Drugs and/or prostitution is my best guess.

What a fool, she had everything she ever wanted yet she threw it all away.

Here you go... from the consulate.

Dear XXXXXXXXX,

I am happy to confirm that I personally made sure your wife returned to Thailand on last night's flight and informed her family.

She apparently was depressed with something, and a so-calledfriend of her's by the name of Ms. Sumalee took her here to visit Hong Kong. By her accounts, this friend of hers took her to stay in a place which was less than appropriate, and was full of drug-users, so your wife did her best to get out of there despite some resistance and/or threats to her saftey from these persons. She then reported herself to the local police who then transported her to the Thai Consulate.

She was in a somewhat confused and frightened state, and constantly recounted her ordeal and pleaded us to help her get in touch with you in Indonesia with no sucess, except thru email. She expressed concern over your safety as she sensed you may be lured into coming to Hong Kong by those she got into trouble with to come pay some sort of ransom in exchange for her, this being based on some sms messages she says she saw were being sent and received on her mobile phone while in the company of those shady characters.

Anyhow, I am relieved to hear you have not been dragged into

the events she feared about, and that we were able to convince her to return home to her children with the hopes that you would communicate back to Thailand and learn that she is safely home, thereby confirming to her your safety also.

Regards,

Just another day in the life of .........

Why do we do all this?

Get involved with people we only get to really know after several years of marriage / cohabitation - lacking the nous to understand the local culture in real depth.

I drift from country to country - two or three years on this project - two or three years on that ... finding friends, girl-friends, acquaintances that change with the job - leaving behind a lot of mistakes, as well as some good friends.

And repeating it time-after-time, same mistakes, same shit - different shovel.

Not being unsympathetic - just looking at my life.

Same same.

Going OK for a while now though.

The important thing to remember is that regardless of what happens it is never.... ever.... your fault.

Otherwise madness lies there.

Tuky, I would just keep waiting for them to offer to send the kids to you (which will happen when they begin to look at them as financial liabilities). Until that time- and when it comes it should be done through a trusted go-between with no actual direct contact between you and the crazies- there's not much that it seems you can do without raising risks considerably for you and your children.

I know a lot of you will call me an idiot.

But I can't help but feel compassion for her.

My first thought was som num na, but I realise she is also a person with a heart, feelings and emotions.

I feel sorry for her, nobody should ever have to live like this or go through such an event.

The consulate wouldn't come out and say it, but I can only imagine what she went through.

Anyway, I haven't spoken to her and I wont, but I just hope she is ok.

You aren't an idiot at all. This is someone you love(d) and share two children with. You can't just turn that off because they go off the deep end.

I do think you need to get those kids though. At least until she gets her head on straight.

It has nothing to do with the mother, but the grandmother as well. Is she not directly responsible for her daughter's outcome? Is this really a family that should have anything to do with raising two girls?

She is crazy, and her family equally so. Now is not the time to put yourself first but put your daughters first. Sorry if I offend, you know I love you dearly, but it has to be said.

Here you go... from the consulate.

Dear XXXXXXXXX,

I am happy to confirm that I personally made sure your wife returned to Thailand on last night's flight and informed her family.

She apparently was depressed with something, and a so-calledfriend of her's by the name of Ms. Sumalee took her here to visit Hong Kong. By her accounts, this friend of hers took her to stay in a place which was less than appropriate, and was full of drug-users, so your wife did her best to get out of there despite some resistance and/or threats to her saftey from these persons. She then reported herself to the local police who then transported her to the Thai Consulate.

She was in a somewhat confused and frightened state, and constantly recounted her ordeal and pleaded us to help her get in touch with you in Indonesia with no sucess, except thru email. She expressed concern over your safety as she sensed you may be lured into coming to Hong Kong by those she got into trouble with to come pay some sort of ransom in exchange for her, this being based on some sms messages she says she saw were being sent and received on her mobile phone while in the company of those shady characters.

Anyhow, I am relieved to hear you have not been dragged into

the events she feared about, and that we were able to convince her to return home to her children with the hopes that you would communicate back to Thailand and learn that she is safely home, thereby confirming to her your safety also.

Regards,

I know a lot of you will call me an idiot.

But I can't help but feel compassion for her.

My first thought was som num na, but I realise she is also a person with a heart, feelings and emotions.

I feel sorry for her, nobody should ever have to live like this or go through such an event.

The consulate wouldn't come out and say it, but I can only imagine what she went through.

Anyway, I haven't spoken to her and I wont, but I just hope she is ok.

Good on you Tuky. And glad it's turned out ok and the Thai Consulate sorted it. COnsulates should be useful for something after all.

One question though:

Why did you XXXX out your name.

We all know it's Mr. Tuky, Honourable Member.

I just spoke to her...

And she says...'Can you help me?' here we go I thought, now she wants money.

'Can you take the kids, it is not safe for them here in Thailand'

You beauty, I am in Aust. at the moment, I was returning to Indo on Saturday but I am trying to get out of here tomorrow and pick them before she changes her mind.

Wish me luck guys, this might be my best chance to get the kids.

YipPpEeEeEeEE

Tuky, I would just keep waiting for them to offer to send the kids to you (which will happen when they begin to look at them as financial liabilities).

An overly optimistic view in my opinion, they may well be seen as an initial burden, but a longer term 'Cash Cow', investment.

Wish me luck guys, this might be my best chance to get the kids.

I do wish you luck Tuky and it may be your best chance, as she may well have come to her senses, but have you thought how you are going to achieve it?

Are you going to meet her?

Is it another scam?

Or am I just being cynical about the whole game plan?

I really hope I am wrong and all ends well.

Good Luck

Moss

Good luck, Tuky.

I hope you get your little darlings to a safe place, where they belong.

Don't leave us, worried about you, people in limbo!! Let us know soon the outcome!!

Bonne Chance!!

I wish you well, Tuky but have you considered NOT meeting her alone???

T.I.T. and all that!

Dave

Agree with Dave. Might be worth seeing if Lance or somebody is available to go with?

Tuky

good luck mate. i hope it all works out for the best.

make sure she gives you a letter saying you have permission to take the kids. cover your a in case she changes her mind in a few days. The last thing you need is bogus run in with the immigration of cops.

Good luck

Take care

CP

Tuky, I'm in Pattaya. I would be happy to go with you if you need someone. I have transport and could meet you somewhere.

Be good to see you again.

Let me know, and take care.

Mobi

P.S. It's not beyond the bounds that we could get some TVP's to go with us. I have a line of communication with Howard, as he has invited me to go out with him on his "beat " one night and observe.

Mobi,

We wouldn't want you to get into a tussle with some drunken chav!!! Think long and hard about going out with Howard!!

Ditto with everybody else Tuky, best not doing this alone.

Do we need to say it'll be a massive mistake to be emotionally involved with this woman again (unless it's to get custody of your kids)?

The offer is still on the table.

If you decide to come let me know the dates etc and I will meet up with you.

She has obviously come down off the drugs. And is no longer paranoid.

To paraphrase...

Be fuc_ked if your getting the kids you asshol_e.

The following is an email from the brother in law...

He admitted later he was drunk on wine and was sick of the bullshit that was coming his way.

Tuky,

Why are you in Oz? Your estranged wife is in Sriracha and really needs u now. She cries for you. She made mistakes - as you have - but you both need each other. Or have i read the tea-leaves wrong!

Either you go to Sriracha or you really signal that you don't care for your Thai family. I suspect you are no longer Muslim..but so be it...you cannot carry on stringing people along. You are damaging lots of people, their hopes and lives.

Get your act together with Tuk, or bail out..formally and legally from the Thai family you created! I am getting dragged into this - I payed for Tuk's flight back to HK, come on mate...sort it out!

Yours as you know, always you bro'

My reply...

Hi XXX.

Please look at the attachement to see why I am in Oz.

I will be stuck here too until I can negotiate a settlement with McDermott's as I have been unable to fullfill my completion terms.

That is, I have not been able to return Tuk and the kids residency permits. I have asked and pleaded with Tuk but she does not want to send them. So officially they will not pay me my settlement. I do not have enough money to buy a ticket anywhere.

We spoke yesterday, and all she wanted was money. So please don't tell me that Tuk cries for me and that she needs me. The only thing that Tuk ever needed me for was my bank account. 6 years of being with Tuk has yet to prove any different, so why have things changed now?

I do not need Tuk, infact my life has improved no end without Tuk in it. I have finally found out that I can be happy instead of lonely and miserable.

Yes, she has made mistake, like when I came home from Russia and she had genital warts. My mistake was to not make a deal out of it. Just put it down to lonliness. Do you need anymore examples?

Mate I care for my kids, but I have no feelings for Tuk, if I was able to go to Sriracha it wouldn't be for Tuk. She made her bed she can sleep in it. After all the abuse, threats and wishes for my death there is no way I could ever be in the same room as Tuk without feeling ill. A person that can spew the filth that came out of her mouth is not a person I want in my life mate. It is as simple as that. If you are right and she does need me, then it is up to her to show/tell me. I have to say, the only thing she has shown me so far is that she wants my money and she wants me dead.

I am not a fool, and I most certainly am not a doormat.

How am I stringing people along Pete? Tuk has moved on and so have I. I fail to see how I am stringing her along. and to be damaging peoples hopes and lives? How? Who are these people? Do you mean the parents lives are being damaged? because I am no longer supporting them?

Do you mean I am ruining peoples hopes for a free ride? I am damaging their lives because now they actually have to get off their backsides and do something constructive? As you can see I feel strongly about that comment.

The kids do not enter this equation because they are the two people who i will always look after. The rest can look after themselves, they are adults.

I have been trying for a long time to legally dissolve the marriage. However Tuk will not agree, she will only sign a divorce if I give her 80% of my monthly earning, buy her a new car etc etc. I have been dealing with a law firm in Pattaya, they are nation wide and apparently reputable. I do not want to do this acrimoniously, that is why I haven't aggressively pursued it so far, but Tuk is her own worst enemy. Her demands are outrageous and will only have the result of me giving nothing and she has no way of enforcing anything anyway. The more she pushes, the more I back off.

Mate, i am sorry you got dragged into this, but beiung married to a Thai woman means you are married to the family also. Dont let them drag you into again mate, that is my advice. Let them sort out their own problems themselves, otherwise you will end up like me, they truly believe this is all my fault, I am the bad guy here. Let them think that way, I don't care. As far as I am aware the only thing they regret about me is I took my paycheck with me.

IF I am wrong, then I am only wrong because they never proved otherwise.

Tuk told me on the phone that it is my fault she went to HK, because she needs the money. Come on Pete, 6 months ago I even contacted you to help make Tuk understand that my job is finishing and therefore the money is finishing. What does she do to prepare? she buys a <deleted> new car. I gave her every opportunity to plan for the dry spell, I still sent 100k every month, she still had the rental incomes, if she didn't plan then it is her own problem, I am not going to bail her out and she most certainly cannot blame me. She can only blame herself. She needs to ask herself how the rest of Thailand survives? They get a job, sure some of them sell themselves as that is supposedly the easy money (Tuk has hopefully learnt her lesson on that one now, though I doubt it) but the majority live a normal life, get a normal job etc etc. Look at Samran, Wat, and May etc etc, they manage just fine.

Sure Pete, I feel sorry for Tuk. But I honestly think she only has herself to blame. The sooner she realises that the better. Then perhaps she can pick herslef up and move on with life.

I hope this email doesn't come across the worng way mate. If I sounded hard it is not directed at you. I am angry at Tuk for getting herself into this mess, not at you for reporting it.

I have a new life now Pete, I am very happy.

I have a new baby coming in the next week or so.

My new girlfriend has her problems too, but she atleast admits to it and asks for my help.

My problems are shared also and she offers productive advice.

She is studying Business Admin at University and she own two small shops.

With no help from me she has bought her own house.

I would be crazy to get back into bed with the likes of Tuk. And I am taking a guess here but I think she will find it hard to meet any decent man who will stick around unless she changes her own attitude and expectations. If you were in my position would go back to Tuk?

Ok, sorry for being so long winded.

Please feel free to add anything mate, or have a go at me etc etc. I will take any criticism.

Cheers

After I set him straight...

Hey Tuky,

Thanks for this. Sorry if I came across a bit rough..was a bit drunk when I wrote it......so i apologise.

I think Tuk is crazy and of course, I'm getting the sympathy signals from the family. I should have known there is always another side to the story and you have set me straight.

I am really happy for you and your new baby and wife. I will do everything I can to help you extricate yourself from the 'Thais' and ensure K&C are looked after. I will try to help get the residency permits...but i tried before to no success but will try again.

For info, I think the Bank is about to claim back Taraphuna...but u prob know that already.

I cant pretend there wont be future 'crazy old fart emails' from me..but hopefully you'll know its just drink talking!

Send me some more pics of ur new family...dont worry they only stay with me!

Cheers

Anyway, things are back to the way they were before.

i am the bad guy, the families life is shit because I left etc etc.

I am sorry to you all for giving you hope that I might get my kids. I was deluded, i should have known it would never happen.

I give up....

I am going to live my own life.

The kids can fend for themselves. I know that sounds harsh, but what can I do? If I spend one more minute on this I am going to kill myself.

I will always be there for them, if they need me. But I need myself now. IJWT sent me a message saying as much. And he is right.

This life is hel_l, and I refuse to live it anymore.

I am going to pursure my own happiness, and if my kids need me I will be there.

until then, thanks for everything.

Cheers

Tuky

Tuky, IMHO you have made the right decision.

Yes it is very sad and very harsh, but with the best will in the world there nothing you can do for those kids at the moment.

Any attempts you may make to rescue them or extricate them from her will end in failure, and quite likely, your death.

Maybe sometime in the future the situation will change, and it is at least some compensation that you have someone there looking out for them.

Be patient, be happy, enjoy your new life, and maybe one day you will get a surprise - it happens.

take care

Mobi

Anyway, things are back to the way they were before.

i am the bad guy, the families life is shit because I left etc etc.

I am sorry to you all for giving you hope that I might get my kids. I was deluded, i should have known it would never happen.

I give up....

I am going to live my own life.

The kids can fend for themselves. I know that sounds harsh, but what can I do? If I spend one more minute on this I am going to kill myself.

I will always be there for them, if they need me. But I need myself now. IJWT sent me a message saying as much. And he is right.

This life is hel_l, and I refuse to live it anymore.

I am going to pursure my own happiness, and if my kids need me I will be there.

until then, thanks for everything.

Cheers

Tuky

Mobi says it best im(unexperienced)o.

I agree with him.

And you.

long time no chat Reith. Good luck with the ongoing saga.