Something I can across in my Japan-related research are these pics of a "Dutch Wife" factory. Really creepy and probably NSFW:

http://m.mippin.com/mip/m/comments.jsp?sid...260771124867562

Hope the link works!

you were searching for waaaaaaaaaaaaat when you came up with that link......??

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edit: <deleted>!!! There is a Japanese sex doll in there that is a child!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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The whole thing is pretty unsettling actually.

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edit2: OH! for clarification i was joking with that first comment I made camerata. I didnt see the japanese child doll until after i typed that. I wasnt making any kind of link between a japan-related search and that doll. I just realise that it could be misconstrued as some kind of query like that. Er..hope you get what i mean.

edit2: OH! for clarification i was joking with that first comment I made camerata. I didnt see the japanese child doll until after i typed that. I wasnt making any kind of link between a japan-related search and that doll. I just realise that it could be misconstrued as some kind of query like that. Er..hope you get what i mean.

Yes. I had never seen or heard anything about a kiddie sex doll before (if that's what it is). However I suspect these photos are not all from the same source - just a collection to show how creepy the manufacture of the dolls is. All those headless latex corpses and heads with open mouths...

If you hunt around Japanese manga and anime sites you come across links to some pretty weird stuff.

I thought the child was a doll too, after being primed to think of latex models with the first set of pics. But I was distirbed enough to look at it again......I think it is an actual child but the quality of her eyes (which I can't quite describe), lends her that molded latex look.

Whether real or a doll....I have no idea why that child/doll is in this set of pictures.

Come to that, why is the strawberry girl there too? Don't try and tell me she's a doll!

That's what I find creepy.

The first pics I found amusing.

Hang on.....is that strawberry girl that costume girl in the other thread?

Look again Hardcourt.

Definitely a doll.

If you are not convinced, check out the hands.

Can see why you would think she is real.

Very creepy indeed.

Thailand ISPs don't want to know about it.

Look again Hardcourt.

Definitely a doll.

If you are not convinced, check out the hands.

Can see why you would think she is real.

Very creepy indeed.

She IS very doll-like.

Perhaps because I don't want to believe that people would make it, but perhaps because of the way the light highlights the dimple on her knee...the way the tone of her skin changes with the shadow....every square cm of a doll's "skin" is identical, but a person has tone and colour differences.

I maintain she's real. I think it was an innocent and random shot that some sleazball saw potential in.

Thailand ISPs don't want to know about it.

It's not worth sourcing a proxy to watch it. Photos of a mannequin factory producing life-sized long-legged white dummies/dolls of the blow-up Sexy Susan type, obviously more substantial than a blow-up toy, and a variety of faces and wigs to be applied to the frauleins.

Then comes a photo of a doll-like Japanese child, sitting, with her hands near her crotch having brushed her skirt up slightly.

Then some photos of a Jap model in a costume holding strawberries.

Link works for me Scea.

Your not going to like this Hardcourt: http://www.makepure.com/

Thailand ISPs don't want to know about it.

It's not worth sourcing a proxy to watch it. Photos of a mannequin factory producing life-sized long-legged white dummies/dolls of the blow-up Sexy Susan type, obviously more substantial than a blow-up toy, and a variety of faces and wigs to be applied to the frauleins.

Then comes a photo of a doll-like Japanese child, sitting, with her hands near her crotch having brushed her skirt up slightly.

Then some photos of a Jap model in a costume holding strawberries.

I went mad f***ing around with proxies when Youtube was banned here.

They were always a step ahead of me, what would work one day wouldn't work the next.

I maintain she's real. I think it was an innocent and random shot that some sleazball saw potential in.

Latex will give that skin appearance. If you look closely at her face, at the angle of the pinky finger and other fingers, as well as the angle of her right leg, you will see that its not natural. Sorry..im not meaning to bang on about it. If it helps you to forgive my persistence, its just that i studied then taught life drawing for many years, so im a bit of a stickler for details.

I found this a bit disturbing, I don't think I'll look any closer...

Me neither, rather disturbing - Even if they are dolls they are too lifelike for me and odd. OK the adult ones, but not the kiddies.

Can i get a brad pitt or Keanu one? See, only female ones.... Or Jack from Eastenders?

Link works for me Scea.

Your not going to like this Hardcourt: http://www.makepure.com/

I concede to your artists eye.

I didn't want to believe it but have to now from that link.

Here I am, 45 years old, been there done that, but I'm still finding that some things show me to be naive.

dam_n it... I'm going to give those proxies another try.

Link works for me Scea.

Your not going to like this Hardcourt: http://www.makepure.com/

I concede to your artists eye.

I didn't want to believe it but have to now from that link.

Here I am, 45 years old, been there done that, but I'm still finding that some things show me to be naive.

Sorry, i think i came across as really obnoxious! I didnt mean it like that...and yes, im shocked too. Even the title "Make Pure"..

What i wonder is..would dolls like this (both adult and child dolls) be good or bad psychologically for the person who buys them? What i mean is, say a man doesnt want to be involved with women or has problems with women (be that intimacy fear or distrust or whatever) then would an adult doll like that give him some kind of comfort. Or, would it add to problems of being able to view women normally, where they are objectified more. Could these dolls be a pre-lude to rape? As the doll can be any fantasy he wants, be sexual whenever he wants, could he project that onto real women? (I guess it depends on the man?).

In turn, regarding the child dolls, the same concern is there. If a man (or woman!) is projecting a fantasy onto the child doll, could this be a stepping stone to acting that out on a real child. Is a doll like this helpful in preventing pedophiles from violating children, or a pre-lude to violating children?

I guess would be down to the individual..right? Ie: a gun in the wrong hands etc. But, i my main thought are would they be helpful in preventing rape and abuse, or add to rape and abuse?

I'm involved in an argument on another thread concerning this subject.

My case here is that anything involving children in this regard should be given no legality or allowed any pretence of being a normal sexual activity. What are the dolls but only another form of kiddy porn allowing gratification?

What i wonder is..would dolls like this (both adult and child dolls) be good or bad psychologically for the person who buys them?

There was a case in the Japanese news this year where someone reported a body wrapped in plastic sheets with a foot sticking out off the beaten track somewhere. The police came and cordoned the area off and eventually the forensic people turned up. On pulling off the sheets it turned out to be an extremely lifelike full-sized sex doll.

Somehow they discovered that it had belonged to an elderly man who had bought it because he was lonely after his wife died. After many more years he became too old to look after himself so he had to move in with his son's family and get rid of the doll. You can't just put a 5-foot sex doll in your dustbin and to chop it up would have broken his heart, having so many fond memories with it, so he decided to hide it in some woodland... Anyway, the police charged him with illegal garbage dumping.

Kind of reminds me of how humans can become attached to animals, or (at least in fiction) to machines that seem human (Blade Runner, Sarah Connor Chronicles, etc).

You didn't come across as obnoxious in the slightest, Eek. No probs. I'm always glad to have my eyes opened by those better qualified than me.

As my naivete is apparent, I'm probably not the best one to offer an opinion here.....but I always got the impression that Sexy Suzy was for men with inadequate social skills and prefer their private fantasy world....I never thought about it leading to objectifying or abusing women as the men that are rapists have power issues, not sex issues.

Child sex dolls, though....it's an issue I had never thought about and I can relate to your concern/question....the purchasers of those abominations may very well have sex issues that lead to social crimes.

Yes, there is something definitely not right about all that.

I expect it won't be long before they develop soft robots that people can have a go on either.

A lot of Japanese porn sites are very near the mark with schoolgirl stuff. The adverts are saying "All over 18" and so on, but I very much doubt it. And the girls act out schoolgirl roles.

Much less control of such things than Western governments.

Don't know what the rates for rape or child molestation are, compared with other countries, but I doubt that they are lower. Maybe prosecutions are less, maybe reports are less, don't know - but I have found that the photo and video world over there is very much geared to the youngest girls being the sellers, not the busty or boty styles.

I never thought about it leading to objectifying or abusing women as the men that are rapists have power issues, not sex issues.

Can see your point there about the power issues thing. I imagine a doll wouldnt fulfill that at all. But yes, I agree the child doll is a lot more worrying.

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Humphrey, with the school girl fantasy thing, i can sort of understand it..IF the schoolgirl fantasy is based on say a 16-17-18 year old girl. I think many guys like the fantasy of being with a schoolgirl but without ANY real desire of being with one and all that entails. Sure, im gonna think " " at old dudes drolling over school girl type images though! Some women have rape fantasies (which personally i dont get, but i can understand that "safe" desire to be ravaged), but would never want to be raped. The problem (imo) is when the school girl imagery has the school girl looking very young, and/or very vulnerable. Also, if a man was focusing a lot, or solely, on those types of images, it would raise red flags for me.

Rape per 100,000.

1. United States 34.20

2. England and Wales 14.69

3. France 13.38

Taiwan 8.82

South Korea 4.38

Spain 3.23

Japan 1.48

I didn't compile these statistics nor neccesarily stand by them. Think of them as a guide only.

Always a bit iffy on these type of stats.

Would a Japanese rape victim be less likely to report it?

Would the police be more likely to put her off laying a complaint?

Spain with all those liquored up tourists? What's going on there?

Sorry, i think i came across as really obnoxious! I didnt mean it like that...and yes, im shocked too. Even the title "Make Pure"..

What i wonder is..would dolls like this (both adult and child dolls) be good or bad psychologically for the person who buys them?

They might be useful for driving in the IUV lane in Canadian traffic. The IUV lane is reserved for busses and vehicles having more than one occupant in the car, and is supposed to force more people to share vehicles in heavy traffic. Of course that wouldn't help if you got caught by the cops.

I never thought about it leading to objectifying or abusing women as the men that are rapists have power issues, not sex issues.

Can see your point there about the power issues thing. I imagine a doll wouldnt fulfill that at all. But yes, I agree the child doll is a lot more worrying.

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Humphrey, with the school girl fantasy thing, i can sort of understand it..IF the schoolgirl fantasy is based on say a 16-17-18 year old girl. I think many guys like the fantasy of being with a schoolgirl but without ANY real desire of being with one and all that entails. Sure, im gonna think " " at old dudes drolling over school girl type images though! Some women have rape fantasies (which personally i dont get, but i can understand that "safe" desire to be ravaged), but would never want to be raped. The problem (imo) is when the school girl imagery has the school girl looking very young, and/or very vulnerable. Also, if a man was focusing a lot, or solely, on those types of images, it would raise red flags for me.

There's a lot of free download sites for videos nowadays and an awful lot of porn among it.

The Japanese seem to have far more young stuff (high-school, say) than any other nation. Don't know if this is a guide to national taste or not.

Old Croc - rape statistics are notoriously unreliable in countries where the victim is not given every support. I worked for many years in the Middle East and know of many East European and Filipina girls who were raped (some on a continuing basis by their employer or his family) and got no satisfaction whatsoever from the local authorities.

At one time there were over 200 girls in the Philippine Consulate in Jeddah, who had run away from abusive employers, leaving passports, everything behind. The Consul, a lovely guy, eventually got them escorted to the airport and back to PI. I and a girl-friend or two had assisted in the escapes of many of those girls.

Yeah....those stats are very iffy. Not least of all by what Humphrey says.

If even a third of what my Filipina girlfriends told me is true then it sure doesn't put a lot of men in a very good light. Maybe that is why so many of them used to hang out in my room. It got so I had no privacy at all and I had to escape during the day. The stuff I saw going on, on a regular basis is why I stopped visiting the Philippines. Everything was a scam of one fashion or another.