Where did the peace convoy told they were sending goods to Hamas?

Quote: The civilian Turkish boat announced that it intended to and was on its way to enter Gaza and supply a belligerent, terrorist organization, Hamas

Please show proof of this claim.

And then try again (after reading my post where I point out several issues that show Israel acted in a illegal way).

But this is not good enough for some die-hard fanatics and there are still bombings, shootings, other attacks in the province.

Some people will never be satisfied until they see their 'enemies' totally destroyed. There is no negotiating with them. No reasoning. Nothing you give them is enough.

This sums it up.

Thank you for answering.

However, it is pretty much lacking in any coherant thought or logic, which I will answer more fully in response to H.B.

Well it is nice to know that you will enlighten us sometime in the unspecified future, as your retort contains no "coherent thought or logic" at all. We are waiting for your brilliant response with great anticipation.

Where did the peace convoy told they were sending goods to Hamas?

Quote: The civilian Turkish boat announced that it intended to and was on its way to enter Gaza and supply a belligerent, terrorist organization, Hamas

Please show proof of this claim.

And then try again (after reading my post where I point out several issues that show Israel acted in a illegal way).

It is a well known fact. Do your own research before making such asinine claims.

I have already pointed out that Israel did not act illegally and provided proof. Now, why don't you just keep asking the same questions over and over again despite the evidence you are wrong. Dishonest filibustering seems to be all you are capable of on this issue.

No child deserves to be beaten for any reason.

They do not deserve to be used as human shields or forced to become suicide bombers by the "Palestinians" either, but you do not seem to be posting or commenting on that.

Despite the fact that you admit that the Arabs are equally responsible for the strife, your main point seems to be that everyone hates the Jews, so they deserve all the blame.

No child deserves to be beaten for any reason.

They do not deserve to be used as human shields or forced to become suicide bombers by the "Palestinians" either, but you do not seem to be posting or commenting on that.

Despite the fact that you admit that the Arabs are equally responsible for the strife, your main point seems to be that everyone hates the Jews, so they deserve all the blame.

Absolutely typical and exactly what I said in past posts when you cant excuse Israels behaviour you throw out an Arab atrocitie to try to take away from what we were talking about which is Israels actions we all know and expect nothing better of Hamas

Now I expect nothing better out of Israel they are terrorirsts just the same as Hamas in fact probably worse as they have killed way more people.

also i beleive it was JingTing that said everyone in the world hates Jews but without backing up the statement other than a whacked out rant on anti semitism which is all you can expect from someone like him when you dont have an answer to the question or someone does not agree with your views its best attack someone.

Its clear my view is not going to change neither is yours so we can all contineue to symnpathise with our Terrorists groups and see where it goes.

Just watched Panorama documentary and find it interesting that most was put together using footage released by Israel, Israel confiscasted all cameras CCTV footage and released back the best portions to make themselves look like the victims.

It very easy to confiscate everyones cameras cctv tapes etc sift throught them and release only the footage that will back up your cause.

I particularly like the blantantly fake radio replies that Israel said they received after warning the ship to turn back it was so false it was laughable.

What i saw was Israel attacking a ship in the dead of night and people defending themselves in International waters the best way they can hel_l BBC even said they were throwing stun grenades at the Isralei boats LOL but it was Israels stun bombs which were being thrown back at them LOL

Anyone could do a remake of that documentary with a Pro Palestinian viewpoint and I can see why people are a bit taken a back as it is a pro isralei piece backed up 90% with pro israeli footage to try to counter act dome of the massive international damage it did to Israel.

People are getting too smart to keep falling for propaganda

On an ending not I dont hate Jews I dont like extremist arabs or extremist muslims but I also dont like Israels behaviour where palestinians are concerned but I would support them if they had to attack Iran to protect there land

Weird huh

Sounds like you are just making things up again, but at least we now know that you know what's going on better than the BBC. It's so good of you to share all your scholarly insights with us.

Does this sound like Israel wants peace USA immediately condemmed the remarks as well they should like I said no better than Hamas terrorists spouting the same message of hate

http://www.bbc.co.uk...e-east-11127409

Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu distanced himself from the comments with a statement saying that his government wanted peace with the Palestinians.

What are you on about? Some nutty ultra-Orthodox rabbi said it in a sermon. It looks like Jingthing might have a point.

Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu distanced himself from the comments with a statement saying that his government wanted peace with the Palestinians.

What are you on about? Some nutty ultra-Orthodox rabbi said it in a sermon. It looks like Jingthing might have a point.

Err its part of his government and I beleive absolutely that Netenjahoo beleives the exact same thing

You are all knowing all seeing UG as onlg as its your point of view we will have to start calling you the oracle

As UG would say they bring it on themselves

Must be a reason if you think most of the world hates Israel and Jews the whole world is not arabs and since I know nothing on the subject pray tell me why

What kind of antisemitic tripe are you selling? That Jews deserved all the persecution over the centuries? That's classic, dude.

There are only about 12 million Jews left. Hitler killed 6 million. I recently read a projection that if Jews had not been murdered over the centuries there would now be 200 million Jews, not 12 million. Still not much compared to major religious groups.

I won't even entertain "answering" your disgusting antisemitic question. The only answer is that you need to put down your worn out copy of The Protocols of the Elders of Zion and hang out with some cool Jewboys preferably Texas Jewboys (the best kind) who will set you straight about your pathetic prejudices.

I don't think you read his post properly....or you chose not to. He never stated nor imp[lied that "Jews

deserved all the persecution over the centuries". That was either a deliberate twisting of words, or an indication that you did not read properly.

As ALWAYS, as soon as someone is critical of Israel, the "Anti-Semite" accusation comes out.

Have you ever considered that Israel might well be worthy of some critisism, even with your rose coloured glasses on, you would be pulling a very long bow to say that Israel is perfect.

For my two cents worth, Israel is worthy of PLENTY of criticism. They are racist, they ignore the UN on many levels and fronts; on human rights issues as well as war crimes issues.

He is the Rabbi for one of the least influential of the 5 parties in Israel's coalition Government. In U.S terms, this is like a pageboy in the Senate speaking out against Cuba.

As ALWAYS, as soon as someone is critical of Israel, the "Anti-Semite" accusation comes out.

For someone who has made numerous statements denigrating the holocaust and casting scorn on Jews and Israelis, you sure try to play this card a lot. Unfortunately, the "anti-Semite" accusation is often true,

You are all knowing all seeing UG as onlg as its your point of view

Well we can't all be as academically accomplished and open-minded as you.

As ALWAYS, as soon as someone is critical of Israel, the "Anti-Semite" accusation comes out.

For someone who has made numerous statements denigrating the holocaust and casting scorn on Jews and Israelis, you sure try to play this card a lot. Unfortunately, the "anti-Semite" accusation is often true,

It is certainly a convinient deterrant to keep people silent and not be critical of Israel for the fear of being call an anti semetic

Well it certainly does not seem to keep most of the anti-Semites from running their yaps anyway.

You are all knowing all seeing UG as onlg as its your point of view

Well we can't all be as academically accomplished and open-minded as you.

Well based on all your posts UG you dont have an open mind, you are a hard line Iraeli defender and see nothing wrong with there abuse of the people of palestine you even said the kids they beat deserve it NIIICE

But you think your right so OK

you even said the kids they beat deserve it NIIICE

Why don't you point out this post and quote it - unless you are a LIAR?

you dont have an open mind, you are a hard line Iraeli defender

Huh? Check out a dictionary dude. Having an "open-mind" does not mean that you accept every point of view. I do not agree with Charles Manson or Ted Bundy either and they have a lot in common with Hamas.

you dont have an open mind, you are a hard line Iraeli defender

Huh? Check out a dictionary dude. Having an "open-mind" does not mean that you accept every point of view. I do not agree with Charles Manson or Ted Bundy either and they have a lot in common with Hamas.

And israel

you even said the kids they beat deserve it NIIICE

Why don't you point out this post and quote it - unless you are a LIAR?

Come on UG your too smart for that you would never say it directly but you certainly implied it in your posts that they deserve everything they get and never condemned it even though you had many opportunitues to do so.

You are so intelligent i think you can find you comments yourself without me having to point you in the right direction.

Now this conversation is going knowhere so maybe we can conclude it with this comment

I will continue to beleive that Israelie and HAMAS are Terrorists with no difference between them and I dont particulary like either one of them

You will continue to support Israel not matter what they do and will continue to defend them wholeheartedly.

I think thats a fair statement

nuff said

you even said the kids they beat deserve it NIIICE

Why don't you point out this post and quote it - unless you are a LIAR?

It looks like I stumped you once again. That is two COMPLETE fabrications in 24 hours. I'm sure that Bin Ladin is proud of you.

you even said the kids they beat deserve it NIIICE

Why don't you point out this post and quote it - unless you are a LIAR?

Come on UG your too smart for that

I never posted it (or implied it) and you said that I "said it". You can not support your positions so you just throw out baseless insults and make things up. You are quite the learned and sage debater, I must admit.

Does this sound like Israel wants peace USA immediately condemmed the remarks as well they should like I said no better than Hamas terrorists spouting the same message of hate

http://www.bbc.co.uk...e-east-11127409

Does this sound like Abbas is going to the peace talks with an open mind or is he gearing up for failure?

________________________________________________________

Israel to blame if talks fail over settlements issue: Abbas

Aug 29 03:41 PM US/Eastern

Palestinian president Mahmud Abbas said on television on Sunday Israel would be to blame if resumed direct talks with Israel failed over the Jewish settlements issue.

"I have to say, and we told all parties including the United States before accepting renewed talks, that the Israeli government will bear sole responsibility of the risk of failure of the talks if settlement activities continue in Palestinian territories occupied in 1967," he said in a speech.

He was speaking on official Palestinian television just four days before direct talks with Israel are due to resume in Washington after they were broken off 20 months ago when Israel launched its deadly offensive on the Gaza Strip.

"In these decisive moments for the history of our region, we hope to find in Israel a partner capable of taking responsible decisions ahead of an end to the occupation, and a true guarantee of security for the Palestinian and Israel peoples," he said.

"We support the need of Israel and our people for security, but this cannot be a pretext to justify settlement activities and taking away other people's land and rights.

"Our position on settlement and its illegality has not changed," Abbas said.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.b00f990c2f50d8d21fd1d8ae7bc75066.381&show_article=1

you even said the kids they beat deserve it NIIICE

Why don't you point out this post and quote it - unless you are a LIAR?

Come on UG your too smart for that

I never posted it (or implied it) and you said that I "said it". You can not support your positions so you just throw out baseless insults and make things up. You are quite the learned and sage debater, I must admit.

You get more hilarious the more you post I called you Smart how is that an insult I guess you dont agree with me

Well based on all your posts UG you dont have an open mind, you are a hard line Iraeli defender and see nothing wrong with there abuse of the people of palestine you even said the kids they beat deserve it NIIICE

That makes 3 gross distortions of the truth and I can find more insults if you like.

UG I am more open minded than yourself

Another untruth and another serious insult.

UG I am more open minded than yourself

Another untruth and another serious insult.

LOL your so sensitive ive been well insulted on here but it just bounces off me sticks and stones and all that

Toughen up there Laddy

Where did the peace convoy told they were sending goods to Hamas?

Quote: The civilian Turkish boat announced that it intended to and was on its way to enter Gaza and supply a belligerent, terrorist organization, Hamas

Please show proof of this claim.

And then try again (after reading my post where I point out several issues that show Israel acted in a illegal way).

It is a well known fact. Do your own research before making such asinine claims.

I have already pointed out that Israel did not act illegally and provided proof. Now, why don't you just keep asking the same questions over and over again despite the evidence you are wrong. Dishonest filibustering seems to be all you are capable of on this issue.

Yes and I pointed out that even the UN says the blockade is illegal and I even showed why it is illegal.

Israel or any other country can set up a blockade when in war yes legally under international law, but it must make sure enough supplies come in into the occupied territory , if not they breach the law and make the blockade illegal.

(The UN said not enough supplies are allowed in as well as many HR watch organizations have reported this and asked for an end to the blockade). http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSLDE66T0KY20100730

You mention the international law that allows a blockade but you do not take into account the conditions that must be respected.

I spend all Saturday to find relevant laws to back up my claims and try to steer this discussion we have away from a shouting game and I believe I have a very solid case to say that the boarding of the ship was illegal as well as the blockade.

You however, only consider a part of the International law and say things like "It is a very well known fact"

Calling me dishonest when I state all laws that are effective in this case including all links to them makes me wonder.

Calling me dishonest (Or a liar), do you actually mean that these laws that I stated do not exist?

Kind regards and waiting for your answer on this.

Alex

Where did the peace convoy told they were sending goods to Hamas?

Quote: The civilian Turkish boat announced that it intended to and was on its way to enter Gaza and supply a belligerent, terrorist organization, Hamas

Please show proof of this claim.

And then try again (after reading my post where I point out several issues that show Israel acted in a illegal way).

It is a well known fact. Do your own research before making such asinine claims.

I have already pointed out that Israel did not act illegally and provided proof. Now, why don't you just keep asking the same questions over and over again despite the evidence you are wrong. Dishonest filibustering seems to be all you are capable of on this issue.

Yes and I pointed out that even the UN says the blockade is illegal and I even showed why it is illegal.

Israel or any other country can set up a blockade when in war yes legally under international law, but it must make sure enough supplies come in into the occupied territory , if not they breach the law and make the blockade illegal.

(The UN said not enough supplies are allowed in as well as many HR watch organizations have reported this and asked for an end to the blockade). http://www.reuters.c...E66T0KY20100730

You mention the international law that allows a blockade but you do not take into account the conditions that must be respected.

I spend all Saturday to find relevant laws to back up my claims and try to steer this discussion we have away from a shouting game and I believe I have a very solid case to say that the boarding of the ship was illegal as well as the blockade.

You however, only consider a part of the International law and say things like "It is a very well known fact"

Calling me dishonest when I state all laws that are effective in this case including all links to them makes me wonder.

Calling me dishonest (Or a liar), do you actually mean that these laws that I stated do not exist?

Kind regards and waiting for your answer on this.

Alex

Alex

Ya wasting ya breath mate UG only see's the position of Israel no matter what clear concise evidence you put under his nose.

But I am sure you will get an indepth reply based on the years of history he has studied OR probably not