Saudi Arabia has conducted tests to stand down its air defences to enable Israeli jets to make a bombing raid on Iran’s nuclear facilities, The Times can reveal.

In the week that the UN Security Council imposed a new round of sanctions on Tehran, defence sources in the Gulf say that Riyadh has agreed to allow Israel to use a narrow corridor of its airspace in the north of the country to shorten the distance for a bombing run on Iran.

To ensure the Israeli bombers pass unmolested, Riyadh has carried out tests to make certain its own jets are not scrambled and missile defence systems not activated. Once the Israelis are through, the kingdom’s air defences will return to full alert.

“The Saudis have given their permission for the Israelis to pass over and they will look the other way,” said a US defence source in the area. “They have already done tests to make sure their own jets aren’t scrambled and no one gets shot down. This has all been done with the agreement of the [uS] State Department.”

Sources in Saudi Arabia say it is common knowledge within defence circles in the kingdom that an arrangement is in place if Israel decides to launch the raid. Despite the tension between the two governments, they share a mutual loathing of the regime in Tehran and a common fear of Iran’s nuclear ambitions. “We all know this. We will let them [the Israelis] through and see nothing,” said one.

It really is too bad that the Iranian people will have to suffer because of the Islamic dictatorship that runs the country. However, as usual, Israel has little choice in having to defend itself from its "eternal enemies" and will be forced to hit and hit hard.

It would be nice if that hypocrite Obama would give Israel the support that they deserve since they are doing our work for us - and he knows it - but don't count on it. That would not be PC. What a disappointment he has been.

"Saudi Arabia gives Israel clear skies to attack Iranian nuclear sites - Times Online"

when journàsslists are either completely drunk or ingested too much of an illegal substance they excrete these kind of reports to dupe the average Bill, Buck, Hank or Joe who is dumb enough to accept the rubbish at face value.

Doesn't say anything about letting them come back though.

Therefore behoveth hire a ful long spoon

the schal ete with a feend.

Chaucer: Squire's tale, 594

Having watched some QRA exercises run by the Saudi Air Force, I seriously doubt if they could do anything about an Israeli flyover even if they wanted to.

The Saudi's don't have the proper aircraft or pilots to do much stopping in that part of Saudi Arabia.

"Saudi Arabia gives Israel clear skies to attack Iranian nuclear sites - Times Online"

when journàsslists are either completely drunk or ingested too much of an illegal substance they excrete these kind of reports to dupe the average Bill, Buck, Hank or Joe who is dumb enough to accept the rubbish at face value.

:D

Having watched some QRA exercises run by the Saudi Air Force, I seriously doubt if they could do anything about an Israeli flyover even if they wanted to. The Saudi's don't have the proper aircraft or pilots to do much stopping in that part of Saudi Arabia.

and that they have hundreds of S300 surface-to-air missiles (next to hundreds of other manufacturers) "in that part" deployed is just a fairy tale as the Saudis never expected an attack from the north or north-east. the enemies of Saudi Arabia are all located in opposite directions, e.g. Yemen, Sudan, Somalia, Eritrea, Zimbabwe and to a lesser extent the Christmas Islands.

Saudi pilots are also too dumb to press a button and fire a heat seeking air-to-air missile. the only pilots who are capable doing that are those of the Greatest Nation on Earth™.

Ahh yess modern warfare televised live.

Having watched some QRA exercises run by the Saudi Air Force, I seriously doubt if they could do anything about an Israeli flyover even if they wanted to. The Saudi's don't have the proper aircraft or pilots to do much stopping in that part of Saudi Arabia.

and that they have hundreds of S300 surface-to-air missiles (next to hundreds of other manufacturers) "in that part" deployed is just a fairy tale as the Saudis never expected an attack from the north or north-east. the enemies of Saudi Arabia are all located in opposite directions, e.g. Yemen, Sudan, Somalia, Eritrea, Zimbabwe and to a lesser extent the Christmas Islands.

Saudi pilots are also too dumb to press a button and fire a heat seeking air-to-air missile. the only pilots who are capable doing that are those of the Greatest Nation on Earth™.

Yup, you pretty well nailed it with your pilot statement. I'm pleased to see you think the US is the "Greatest Nation on Earth".

As far as the s300 system is concerned, it is my understanding the RSAF is in the talking stage and is now discussing the s400 system as opposed to the s300. Of course, if you have input from MODA, you might be correct about the hundreds of s300 missiles that have already been installed. But I doubt it.

Maybe the RSAF has even replaced those Tornados in the North with some F-15s since I have been gone.

Give me a few days and I will query some old contacts to see what I can discover about what is really happening. I've been gone from that scene since late 2008. When did you leave KOSA?

I'll post what I find out if it isn't considered confidential.

Saudi pilots are also too dumb to press a button and fire a heat seeking air-to-air missile.

The Saudi rulers would be perfectly happy to burn Iran to a cinder, but it is a lot more convenient to let someone else do it for them. 

Having watched some QRA exercises run by the Saudi Air Force, I seriously doubt if they could do anything about an Israeli flyover even if they wanted to. The Saudi's don't have the proper aircraft or pilots to do much stopping in that part of Saudi Arabia.

and that they have hundreds of S300 surface-to-air missiles (next to hundreds of other manufacturers) "in that part" deployed is just a fairy tale as the Saudis never expected an attack from the north or north-east. the enemies of Saudi Arabia are all located in opposite directions, e.g. Yemen, Sudan, Somalia, Eritrea, Zimbabwe and to a lesser extent the Christmas Islands.

Saudi pilots are also too dumb to press a button and fire a heat seeking air-to-air missile. the only pilots who are capable doing that are those of the Greatest Nation on Earth™.

Yup, you pretty well nailed it with your pilot statement. I'm pleased to see you think the US is the "Greatest Nation on Earth".

As far as the s300 system is concerned, it is my understanding the RSAF is in the talking stage and is now discussing the s400 system as opposed to the s300. Of course, if you have input from MODA, you might be correct about the hundreds of s300 missiles that have already been installed. But I doubt it.

Maybe the RSAF has even replaced those Tornados in the North with some F-15s since I have been gone.

Give me a few days and I will query some old contacts to see what I can discover about what is really happening. I've been gone from that scene since late 2008. When did you leave KOSA?

I'll post what I find out if it isn't considered confidential.

My contact responded with the information that MODA has currently stalled in their talks with the Russians on the s300 or s400 systems. He wasn't certain which system was currently under discussion. He did state that no contract had been awarded to the Russians for an Air Defense System, thus there are no s300 missiles deployed in Saudi Arabia at this time.

He is in the States on vacation now so couldn't check on the deployment of F-15s to the northeast sector.

If you have information to the contrary, let me know and I will query him, but do expect a delay due to his vacation.

Saudi Arabia: We will not give Israel air corridor for Iran strike

Prince Mohammed bin Nawaf refutes Times of London report saying Saudi Arabia practiced standing down its anti-aircraft systems to allow an Israeli bomb run.

By Haaretz Service

Saudi Arabia would not allow Israeli bombers to pass through its airspace en route to a possible strike of Iran's nuclear facilities, a member of the Saudi royal family said Saturday, denying an earlier Times of London report. cont.

to a lesser extent the Christmas Islands.

Crickey Naam you are going potty, like Israel and the Christmas Islands have WMD's

Now the Virgin Islands that is a separate matter, could break no mans land in no time according to my sources.

You might have to wait for an update though, because I am Off for a .........................

As far as the s300 system is concerned, it is my understanding the RSAF is in the talking stage and is now discussing the s400 system as opposed to the s300. Of course, if you have input from MODA, you might be correct about the hundreds of s300 missiles that have already been installed. But I doubt it.

Maybe the RSAF has even replaced those Tornados in the North with some F-15s since I have been gone.

Give me a few days and I will query some old contacts to see what I can discover about what is really happening. I've been gone from that scene since late 2008. When did you leave KOSA? I'll post what I find out if it isn't considered confidential.

My contact responded with the information that MODA has currently stalled in their talks with the Russians on the s300 or s400 systems. He wasn't certain which system was currently under discussion. He did state that no contract had been awarded to the Russians for an Air Defense System, thus there are no s300 missiles deployed in Saudi Arabia at this time.

He is in the States on vacation now so couldn't check on the deployment of F-15s to the northeast sector.

If you have information to the contrary, let me know and I will query him, but do expect a delay due to his vacation.

S300s are stationed in Saudi Arabia since november 2003. they were supposed to be delivered befor Gulf War II. mentally i never left Saudi Arabia. it is quite often on my mind and i am (we are) spending each and every year a month in the Kingdom. two weeks in Dhahran/Al Khobar and two weeks in my "home town" Jeddah. my wife often goes a third time to Jeddah without me.

let your contact tell you what all is stationed in Tabuk and a place with no name located near the jordanian/iraqi border.

As far as the s300 system is concerned, it is my understanding the RSAF is in the talking stage and is now discussing the s400 system as opposed to the s300. Of course, if you have input from MODA, you might be correct about the hundreds of s300 missiles that have already been installed. But I doubt it.

Maybe the RSAF has even replaced those Tornados in the North with some F-15s since I have been gone.

Give me a few days and I will query some old contacts to see what I can discover about what is really happening. I've been gone from that scene since late 2008. When did you leave KOSA? I'll post what I find out if it isn't considered confidential.

My contact responded with the information that MODA has currently stalled in their talks with the Russians on the s300 or s400 systems. He wasn't certain which system was currently under discussion. He did state that no contract had been awarded to the Russians for an Air Defense System, thus there are no s300 missiles deployed in Saudi Arabia at this time.

He is in the States on vacation now so couldn't check on the deployment of F-15s to the northeast sector.

If you have information to the contrary, let me know and I will query him, but do expect a delay due to his vacation.

S300s are stationed in Saudi Arabia since november 2003. they were supposed to be delivered befor Gulf War II. mentally i never left Saudi Arabia. it is quite often on my mind and i am (we are) spending each and every year a month in the Kingdom. two weeks in Dhahran/Al Khobar and two weeks in my "home town" Jeddah. my wife often goes a third time to Jeddah without me.

let your contact tell you what all is stationed in Tabuk and a place with no name located near the jordanian/iraqi border.

You may be correct, although I never heard of any s300 missiles deployed there. Maybe in a few weeks, when he is back, I can find out more information to either substantiate your claim or mine.

I only have one question about your vacation trips. Why Saudi Arabia??

Saudis Eye Russian Air Defense System: Analysts

By AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE

Published: 1 Oct 2009 05:50

RIYADH - Saudi Arabia is weighing buying an advanced Russian missile system to shore up its defenses against a potentially nuclear Iran, Gulf analysts and diplomats said.

They said Moscow and Riyadh are close to sealing a deal on a multi-billion-dollar weapons package that could include Russia's advanced S-400 missile defense system.

It is the newest version of the S-300 long-range surface to air missile system that Moscow has reportedly been in discussion for several years to sell to Iran, which denies Western charges of aiming to become a nuclear power.

But heavy Western and Israeli pressure and a possibly more lucrative deal with Riyadh have persuaded Moscow not to make that sale to Tehran, diplomats in the Gulf said on condition of anonymity.

"The Saudis would rather this weapon system not be sold to Iran or Syria," another possible buyer, said Theodore Karasik, director of research at the Dubai-based Institute for Near East and Gulf Military Analysis.

The S-400 missile defense system could be a part of a much larger deal with Russia that would signify an important diversification of Saudi arms purchasing from its main suppliers: the United States, Britain and France.

On August 29, Russia's Interfax news agency said a two-billion-dollar arms package for the Saudis could include up to 150 helicopters - 30 Mi-35 attack helicopters and up to 120 Mi-17 transport helicopters - more than 150 T-90S tanks, 250 BMP-3 infantry fighting vehicles and "several dozen" air defense systems.

Contracts for the sale of the tanks and the helicopters "could be signed as soon as this year," an unnamed source told Interfax.

Armed Forces Journal is the leading joint service monthly magazine for officers and leaders in the United States military community.

Edit in to add link: http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=4303935

...and this:

Possible future operators

Venezuela Venezuelan government has recently confirmed a contract with the Russian government to buy one S-300 missile system.[40]

Libya - 4 S-300PMU-2 systems on order

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Algeria - 8 S-300PMU2 was ordered in 2006.

Saudi Arabia - Saudi Arabia is in talks to purchase the newest system S-400.[41]

Link: S-300 (missile) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I only have one question about your vacation trips. Why Saudi Arabia??

lived there for quite a number of years, have a bunch of saudi friends, like the country, love the life style (even though pork chops, bavarian weisswurst, pata negra ham, Portwine and Sherry are only available at a premium and with great difficulties). unfortunately even with the best connections it is impossible for me to get a retiree residence permit.

p.s. wikipedia and/or any media are irrelevant concerning information on saudi defence hardware. anybody who has the slightest idea about the country should know that. even people who work for Raytheon or Oerlikon-Bührle don't have an insight except the job they are doing.

I promised a status report on my search for the "hundreds" of S-300 Russian missiles deployed in Saudi Arabia in 2003, as Mr. Naam has stated.

My contacts have been individuals that were highly placed in Raytheon, MD, Peace Shield, Al Yamamah, MODA and both the US and Saudi Military. None of them have ever heard of a contract with the Russian government that was to deploy an Air Defense System. In fact the only Air Defense System known to any of them was the Raytheon system installed under the Peace Shield contract.

I am still awaiting a response from a friend in the Pentagon and will certainly provide the information to all if he acknowledges there was in fact a Russian contract for air defense.

One of the more amusing and telling questions asked of me was.."How could the Russians possibly hide all the technicians that would have been required to install and maintain the S-300 system all those years?" A very good question, indeed.

Lacking any positive confirmation there are any S-300 missiles stationed in Saudi Arabia, I must believe the men I know and trust and have worked with for a number of years. I therefore do not believe there are any S-300 missile systems deployed in Saudi Arabia. Our readers may believe as they wish.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/gulf/rsaf.htm

http://www.janes.com/articles/Janes-Military-Communications/Peace-Shield-Saudi-Arabia.html

Are you sure? Naam's tinfoil hat tells him all.     

I am still awaiting a response from a friend in the Pentagon and will certainly provide the information to all if he acknowledges there was in fact a Russian contract for air defense.

careful,he might end up at the prison at Leavenworth, making big bricks into small ones in the hot sun

I am still awaiting a response from a friend in the Pentagon and will certainly provide the information to all if he acknowledges there was in fact a Russian contract for air defense.

careful,he might end up at the prison at Leavenworth, making big bricks into small ones in the hot sun

I am sure the system itself is still Classified in accordance with Russian security measures. The list of purchasers would hardly be Classified any longer.

I promised a status report on my search for the "hundreds" of S-300 Russian missiles deployed in Saudi Arabia in 2003, as Mr. Naam has stated.

My contacts have been individuals that were highly placed in Raytheon, MD, Peace Shield, Al Yamamah, MODA and both the US and Saudi Military. None of them have ever heard of a contract with the Russian government that was to deploy an Air Defense System. In fact the only Air Defense System known to any of them was the Raytheon system installed under the Peace Shield contract.

I am still awaiting a response from a friend in the Pentagon and will certainly provide the information to all if he acknowledges there was in fact a Russian contract for air defense.

One of the more amusing and telling questions asked of me was.."How could the Russians possibly hide all the technicians that would have been required to install and maintain the S-300 system all those years?" A very good question, indeed.

Lacking any positive confirmation there are any S-300 missiles stationed in Saudi Arabia, I must believe the men I know and trust and have worked with for a number of years. I therefore do not believe there are any S-300 missile systems deployed in Saudi Arabia. Our readers may believe as they wish.

http://www.globalsec...d/gulf/rsaf.htm

http://www.janes.com...udi-Arabia.html

All fine and dandy to know and trust people actually there on the ground with first hand knowledge but until the Huffington Post puts on their website that it's true some here won't believe a word of it.

I promised a status report on my search for the "hundreds" of S-300 Russian missiles deployed in Saudi Arabia in 2003, as Mr. Naam has stated.

My contacts have been individuals that were highly placed in Raytheon, MD, Peace Shield, Al Yamamah, MODA and both the US and Saudi Military. None of them have ever heard of a contract with the Russian government that was to deploy an Air Defense System. In fact the only Air Defense System known to any of them was the Raytheon system installed under the Peace Shield contract.

I am still awaiting a response from a friend in the Pentagon and will certainly provide the information to all if he acknowledges there was in fact a Russian contract for air defense.

One of the more amusing and telling questions asked of me was.."How could the Russians possibly hide all the technicians that would have been required to install and maintain the S-300 system all those years?" A very good question, indeed.

Lacking any positive confirmation there are any S-300 missiles stationed in Saudi Arabia, I must believe the men I know and trust and have worked with for a number of years. I therefore do not believe there are any S-300 missile systems deployed in Saudi Arabia. Our readers may believe as they wish.

http://www.globalsec...d/gulf/rsaf.htm

http://www.janes.com...udi-Arabia.html

All fine and dandy to know and trust people actually there on the ground with first hand knowledge but until the Huffington Post puts on their website that it's true some here won't believe a word of it.

hhhmm, all fine and dandy? like intel on the WMDs? Like Iraq was behind 911?

The word on the ground with first hand knowledge maybe correct, but when the "spin" comes out from the Pentagon etc, you have to wonder.

More Arabs want Iran stopped:

Wednesday, July 07, 2010

UAE ambassador calls for bombing Iran's nuclear facilities

The United Arab Emirates' ambassador to Washington has called for bombing Iran's nuclear facilities, saying that the benefits would outweigh the short-term costs.

In unusually blunt remarks, Ambassador Yousef al-Otaiba publicly endorsed the use of the military option for countering Iran's nuclear program, if sanctions fail to stop the country's quest for nuclear weapons.

"I think it's a cost-benefit analysis," Mr. al-Otaiba said. "I think despite the large amount of trade we do with Iran, which is close to $12 billion - there will be consequences, there will be a backlash and there will be problems with people protesting and rioting and very unhappy that there is an outside force attacking a Muslim country, that is going to happen no matter what."

"If you are asking me, 'Am I willing to live with that versus living with a nuclear Iran?,' my answer is still the same: 'We cannot live with a nuclear Iran.' I am willing to absorb what takes place at the expense of the security of the UAE."

Mr. al-Otaiba's comments came in response to a question after a public interview session at the Aspen Ideas Festival here.

They echo those of some Arab diplomats who have said similar things in private to their American counterparts but never this bluntly in public.

The remarks surprised many in the audience.

Read it all. He said everything in public that we have been told Arab leaders are saying in private for the last two years. Ouch.

More Arabs want Iran stopped:

Wednesday, July 07, 2010

UAE ambassador calls for bombing Iran's nuclear facilities

The United Arab Emirates' ambassador to Washington has called for bombing Iran's nuclear facilities, saying that the benefits would outweigh the short-term costs.

Read it all. He said everything in public that we have been told Arab leaders are saying in private for the last two years. Ouch.

I've said here before that the Arabs are more worried about Iran having nukes than they are about Israel having them. It's nice to see some proof for those who believe something only if you can provide a link to it on the Internet.

All fine and dandy to know and trust people actually there on the ground with first hand knowledge but until the Huffington Post puts on their website that it's true some here won't believe a word of it.

hhhmm, all fine and dandy? like intel on the WMDs? Like Iraq was behind 911?

The word on the ground with first hand knowledge maybe correct, but when the "spin" comes out from the Pentagon etc, you have to wonder.

The intel on WMDs show that Saddam led a successful disinformation campaign. The fact that the Republican Guard themselves thought Iraq had WMDs is further proofof that.

I know it's a mantra of the Left but I've never read or heard anywhere that Iraq was behind 9/11.

Arab Leaders?

Israel/US tug strings & marionettes move ...Nothing new here & nothing to see...Move Along..Move Along

Arab Leaders?

Israel/US tug strings & marionettes move ...Nothing new here & nothing to see...Move Along..Move Along

Yet you bought into the Turkish "humanitarian" ships hook, line and sinker.

Arab Leaders?

Israel/US tug strings & marionettes move ...Nothing new here & nothing to see...Move Along..Move Along

Yet you bought into the Turkish "humanitarian" ships hook, line and sinker.

So who was pulling the Turkish strings?