With her clear skin and dark, flowing hair, 18-year-old Aisha would ordinarily have stood out from a crowd because of her beauty.

But now, tragically, the young Afghan woman is eye-catching for a horrifically different reason.

Aisha is a victim of Taliban brutality, her nose and ears barbarically hacked off by her own husband in a warped punishment for attempting to flee her cruel in-laws

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1299799/Mutilated-Taliban-The-girl-18-nose-ears-hacked-trying-flee-cruel-laws.html#ixzz0vUldp2BJ

Thanks, I was looking for that, I had seen it before but thought it was on Newsweek. No matter, some will be along soon, convinced it was the fault of the U.S. military.

Thanks, I was looking for that, I had seen it before but thought it was on Newsweek. No matter, some will be along soon, convinced it was the fault of the U.S. military.

Well, it is in a twisted sort of way. They should have "committed a war crime" on his sorry a** before he could get around to doing it.

I don't doubt that abhorrence for this disgusting act is genuine from all sides of the political divide.

The story was the cover of Time. It was a high impact cover photo designed to shock and draw the reader into the story.

There is no doubt that it is a true story.

I watched an interview with an American woman, in America, who represented an organisation for women's rights (specifically Afghan women's rights, I think).

I found her point to be interesting and poignant. She was actually slightly condemnatory of the article; Although she applauded the exposure of the plight of women in Afghanistan, she resented that that plight was being used to garner support for the invasion and continued occupation.

The reason she felt that it was exploitation of the situation was because it is not only Taleban elements that commit these atrocious acts, but even triblal groups that are "employed" or allied by/with the US and are ostensibly allies. The point being that these acts are committed across the Afghan political spectrum, but the article does not want to mention that, rather to focus on the enemy.

From a women's welfare point of view, I can see why she (the American woman) took exception to it.

If the fact that a Talebani cut off the nose of a woman is a reason to step up pressure militarily, then it is also a reason to take simmilar decisive military/political action against the tribe groups that are Afghan government/US military supporters that also commit these atrocities. But that would be politically inexpedient, wouldn't it?

I can see that the article had the desired effect on some forum members. Perhaps they could spread their anger and outrage to all mysogynists instead of using it as justification for more aggression against just one particular group.

I don't doubt that abhorrence for this disgusting act is genuine from all sides of the political divide.

The story was the cover of Time. It was a high impact cover photo designed to shock and draw the reader into the story.

There is no doubt that it is a true story.

I watched an interview with an American woman, in America, who represented an organisation for women's rights (specifically Afghan women's rights, I think).

I found her point to be interesting and poignant. She was actually slightly condemnatory of the article; Although she applauded the exposure of the plight of women in Afghanistan, she resented that that plight was being used to garner support for the invasion and continued occupation.

The reason she felt that it was exploitation of the situation was because it is not only Taleban elements that commit these atrocious acts, but even triblal groups that are "employed" or allied by/with the US and are ostensibly allies. The point being that these acts are committed across the Afghan political spectrum, but the article does not want to mention that, rather to focus on the enemy.

From a women's welfare point of view, I can see why she (the American woman) took exception to it.

If the fact that a Talebani cut off the nose of a woman is a reason to step up pressure militarily, then it is also a reason to take simmilar decisive military/political action against the tribe groups that are Afghan government/US military supporters that also commit these atrocities. But that would be politically inexpedient, wouldn't it?

I can see that the article had the desired effect on some forum members. Perhaps they could spread their anger and outrage to all mysogynists instead of using it as justification for more aggression against just one particular group.

Yeah. Don't you hate it when someone uses something bad that happened to civilians in Iraq or Afghanistan to further their cause? Like that Wikileaks founder?

I don't doubt that abhorrence for this disgusting act is genuine from all sides of the political divide.

The story was the cover of Time. It was a high impact cover photo designed to shock and draw the reader into the story.

There is no doubt that it is a true story.

I watched an interview with an American woman, in America, who represented an organisation for women's rights (specifically Afghan women's rights, I think).

I found her point to be interesting and poignant. She was actually slightly condemnatory of the article; Although she applauded the exposure of the plight of women in Afghanistan, she resented that that plight was being used to garner support for the invasion and continued occupation.

The reason she felt that it was exploitation of the situation was because it is not only Taleban elements that commit these atrocious acts, but even triblal groups that are "employed" or allied by/with the US and are ostensibly allies. The point being that these acts are committed across the Afghan political spectrum, but the article does not want to mention that, rather to focus on the enemy.

From a women's welfare point of view, I can see why she (the American woman) took exception to it.

If the fact that a Talebani cut off the nose of a woman is a reason to step up pressure militarily, then it is also a reason to take simmilar decisive military/political action against the tribe groups that are Afghan government/US military supporters that also commit these atrocities. But that would be politically inexpedient, wouldn't it?

I can see that the article had the desired effect on some forum members. Perhaps they could spread their anger and outrage to all mysogynists instead of using it as justification for more aggression against just one particular group.

Yeah. Don't you hate it when someone uses something bad that happened to civilians in Iraq or Afghanistan to further their cause? Like that Wikileaks founder?

I don't think Assange has a "cause" except truth and public awareness.

The Time article, without being untruthfull, promotes one side of the story, without balance......thus to the detriment of the women victims of pro-US tribal followers, and whatsmore, is, in light of the whole truth, a simple propaganda venture.

What's so deserving of your sarcastic attitude in my pointing this out?

I don't doubt that abhorrence for this disgusting act is genuine from all sides of the political divide.

The story was the cover of Time. It was a high impact cover photo designed to shock and draw the reader into the story.

There is no doubt that it is a true story.

I watched an interview with an American woman, in America, who represented an organisation for women's rights (specifically Afghan women's rights, I think).

I found her point to be interesting and poignant. She was actually slightly condemnatory of the article; Although she applauded the exposure of the plight of women in Afghanistan, she resented that that plight was being used to garner support for the invasion and continued occupation.

The reason she felt that it was exploitation of the situation was because it is not only Taleban elements that commit these atrocious acts, but even triblal groups that are "employed" or allied by/with the US and are ostensibly allies. The point being that these acts are committed across the Afghan political spectrum, but the article does not want to mention that, rather to focus on the enemy.

From a women's welfare point of view, I can see why she (the American woman) took exception to it.

If the fact that a Talebani cut off the nose of a woman is a reason to step up pressure militarily, then it is also a reason to take simmilar decisive military/political action against the tribe groups that are Afghan government/US military supporters that also commit these atrocities. But that would be politically inexpedient, wouldn't it?

I can see that the article had the desired effect on some forum members. Perhaps they could spread their anger and outrage to all mysogynists instead of using it as justification for more aggression against just one particular group.

Yeah. Don't you hate it when someone uses something bad that happened to civilians in Iraq or Afghanistan to further their cause? Like that Wikileaks founder?

I don't think Assange has a "cause" except truth and public awareness.

The Time article, without being untruthfull, promotes one side of the story, without balance......thus to the detriment of the women victims of pro-US tribal followers, and whatsmore, is, in light of the whole truth, a simple propaganda venture.

What's so deserving of your sarcastic attitude in my pointing this out?

The article about carving up the woman's face was one-sided and without balance? Hmmm, I guess you're right about that. I wish they could have gotten to interview her husband so that he could give his side of the story. I'm sure given a fair opportunity he could make many see his point of view and understand why he had to do it. It is simply unfair of others outside his culture to condemn the poor man for mutilating his wife's face. Yes, by western standards is does sound like one helluva repulsive crime, but that's only because of our failure to understand other cultures and appreciate their traditions. We must learn to appreciate others more fully before jumping to conclusions over whether some act is a "crime", or completely justified under their centuries old traditions (therefore superior to ours, despite what our arrogance might lead us to believe).

It surely is a very bad thing, carving up someone for a silly reason. But mutilations like these happen all around the world it is not just a Taliban thing is it? A lady friend of me was shot in the back with a shotgun because her friend had seen her talking with another guy. She might have survived but he shot a few more rounds in her just to make sure to send out a signal he was not to be messed with.

The story is for sure terrible and shows how women are being treated in a 3rd world countries like Afghanistan but there are many other places in the world where this is the case. Remember the story about the police guy here in Thailand that chopped off the arm of a girl just because she did not want to sit next to him while he was at her bar?

The reporter could have done a better job by pointing at the abuse of women all over the world or give at least a few other examples if the intention was to show the abuse of women.

The reporter or magazine owner instead focuses on Afghanistan for a reason. A reason could be the recent negative publicity on what is going on there to try and influence public opinion in favor of the troops and coalition partners that are there to capture Bin Laden or is it now fighting for womens rights?

The guy named Hekmatyar who was said to throw acid in the faces of unveiled women is now actively involved in negotiations on how to find a solution for Afghanistan.

As this is outside the box I would like to encourage you all to look at the docu: The century of the self (On YT or Google) and yes it is a 4 hour watch but really worth it, just make sure you watch all episodes, Wikki lists all of them.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6718420906413643126#

It will show you how we all have been fooled and manipulated into believing all the crap that we have been fed through the (controlled) media to influence our perception for the last 80 years.

It is not another lunatic conspiracy theory or communist Italian film, it is all backed up by facts and interviews with people that actually designed and implemented these how I say, policies (Maybe not the right word)and try to justify them.

Take care all!

I don't doubt that abhorrence for this disgusting act is genuine from all sides of the political divide.

The story was the cover of Time. It was a high impact cover photo designed to shock and draw the reader into the story.

There is no doubt that it is a true story.

I watched an interview with an American woman, in America, who represented an organisation for women's rights (specifically Afghan women's rights, I think).

I found her point to be interesting and poignant. She was actually slightly condemnatory of the article; Although she applauded the exposure of the plight of women in Afghanistan, she resented that that plight was being used to garner support for the invasion and continued occupation.

The reason she felt that it was exploitation of the situation was because it is not only Taleban elements that commit these atrocious acts, but even triblal groups that are "employed" or allied by/with the US and are ostensibly allies. The point being that these acts are committed across the Afghan political spectrum, but the article does not want to mention that, rather to focus on the enemy.

From a women's welfare point of view, I can see why she (the American woman) took exception to it.

If the fact that a Talebani cut off the nose of a woman is a reason to step up pressure militarily, then it is also a reason to take simmilar decisive military/political action against the tribe groups that are Afghan government/US military supporters that also commit these atrocities. But that would be politically inexpedient, wouldn't it?

I can see that the article had the desired effect on some forum members. Perhaps they could spread their anger and outrage to all mysogynists instead of using it as justification for more aggression against just one particular group.

Yeah. Don't you hate it when someone uses something bad that happened to civilians in Iraq or Afghanistan to further their cause? Like that Wikileaks founder?

I don't think Assange has a "cause" except truth and public awareness.

The Time article, without being untruthfull, promotes one side of the story, without balance......thus to the detriment of the women victims of pro-US tribal followers, and whatsmore, is, in light of the whole truth, a simple propaganda venture.

What's so deserving of your sarcastic attitude in my pointing this out?

The article about carving up the woman's face was one-sided and without balance? Hmmm, I guess you're right about that. I wish they could have gotten to interview her husband so that he could give his side of the story. I'm sure given a fair opportunity he could make many see his point of view and understand why he had to do it. It is simply unfair of others outside his culture to condemn the poor man for mutilating his wife's face. Yes, by western standards is does sound like one helluva repulsive crime, but that's only because of our failure to understand other cultures and appreciate their traditions. We must learn to appreciate others more fully before jumping to conclusions over whether some act is a "crime", or completely justified under their centuries old traditions (therefore superior to ours, despite what our arrogance might lead us to believe).

now that you mention it, yes, an interview with the husband would have provided another aspect of balance......but that is not the balance I or the American woman I referred to was talking about.....as you well know.

The imbalance I refer to is clear; this article ignores the fact that pro-US Afghanis also commit mutilations....but to report on that would detract away from how bad the Taleban is, wouldn't it? And if the Taleban are just as bad as the rest of the country....what the heck are US soldiers dying for over there?

The Time article is designed to garner support for the aggression and is not actually about women victims.

...........It will show you how we all have been fooled and manipulated into believing all the crap that we have been fed through the (controlled) media to influence our perception for the last 80 years.

............

Hasbara. After the public image debacle of Lebanon in the '80s, Hasbara started an intense campaign, schmoozing the US media. It continues today, resulting in one-sided reporting whenever the subject of Israel is in the news.

Simmilarly, any news item that assist the Zionist cause indirectly will be affected.

Do people want the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, or a sanitised, one-sided version of it?

It looks like the supporters of terror are in their corners licking their wounds on this one?

It looks like the supporters of terror are in their corners licking their wounds on this one?

Is that what you and Harcourt have been up to over there?

No but it would be nice to see some of you guys admit you had a one sided/close minded point of view on this one.

From there we can further discuss and throw some bones up to see what else has been done to manipulate people through propaganda.

Perhaps the new Hollywood blockbuster about the nukulaaaah weapons around the world and their one sided story it tells preparing the Prozacced brains for a war with Iraaaaaan?

No but it would be nice to see some of you guys admit you had a one sided/close minded point of view on this one.

From there we can further discuss and throw some bones up to see what else has been done to manipulate people through propaganda.

Perhaps the new Hollywood blockbuster about the nukulaaaah weapons around the world and their one sided story it tells preparing the Prozacced brains for a war with Iraaaaaan?

Please post some proof that the anti-Taliban Afghan forces are hacking up the faces of their wives or throwing acid at young girls for going to school, or in the guise of a doctor giving medical exams would systematically rape young girls then murder them like the Talban have been proven to do.

Are you serious?

Are you saying that some people working in the (coalition/US) army have never raped and killed Aghans including children for whatever reason?

If I show you they did, would you then call it "An incident"

You are trying to divert from the real question.

It seems somebody living in the Great Satan has stepped up to reconstruct the girl's face and life:

______________________________________________________

Afghan woman mutilated by Taliban to have US surgery

Fri Aug 6, 7:40 pm ET

LOS ANGELES (AFP) – A horrifically mutilated Afghan woman who appeared on a controversial Time magazine cover is to undergo surgery in the United States to rebuild her face, officials said Friday.

The 18-year-old youngster -- identified in media reports only by her first name Aisha -- will meet with surgeons to discuss how to replace her nose, which was sliced off by the Taliban after she fled her abusive in-laws.

The Afghan teenager has become a symbol of a debate amongst commentators over the nature of the US mission in Afghanistan, with Time arguing Aisha's case demonstrates why the Taliban should never be allowed to return to power.

"Aisha posed for the picture and says she wants the world to see the effect a Taliban resurgence would have on the women of Afghanistan, many of whom have flourished in the past few years," Time's Managing Editor Richard Stengel wrote in an editorial accompanying the August 9 edition of the magazine.

Aisha, whose ears were also hacked off in the attack last year in the southern Afghan province of Uruzgan, was taken in by the American Provincial Reconstruction Team for Uruzgan and the Women for Afghan Women (WAW) non-governmental organization after being left for dead.

The Grossman Burn Foundation, a non-profit humanitarian hospital in California which provides surgical procedures to victims of serious injuries worldwide, said Aisha would be treated for free.

"The surgery is being donated by Plastic and Reconstructive surgeon Dr Peter Grossman and the team at The Grossman Burn Center," foundation chairwoman Rebecca Grossman told AFP. "The Grossman Burn Foundation is covering additional cost related to Bibi Aisha."

The foundation cited a United Nations report which estimated nearly 90 percent of Afghan women suffered from domestic violence.

"Bibi Aisha is only one example of thousands of girls and women in Afghanistan and throughout the world who are treated this way," the foundation said.

The foundation did not confirm the date of Aisha's surgery.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/usafghanistanwomannose

Are you serious?

Are you saying that some people working in the (coalition/US) army have never raped and killed Aghans including children for whatever reason?

If I show you they did, would you then call it "An incident"

You are trying to divert from the real question.

Alex, you have been caught out lying - again (remember the riot police photos?). You make accusations, get called out, then try to change the subject. YOU have no proof of mutilation of any kind so go hide in your corner and lick your wounds or whatever it is you do there. I am disappointed because I was sure you had some whacky left-wing Italian communist funded documentary at least making the same claims as you. But you don't even have that.

You are the one that is afraid to find the truth. The Times magazine article is a perfect example of how propaganda is used.

Have you watched the docu I mentioned?

You are the one that is afraid to find the truth. The Times magazine article is a perfect example of how propaganda is used.

Have you watched the docu I mentioned?

Every 4th post of your is about a documentary. If you're talking about the FOUR HOUR one, no, I haven't.

We've been through all this before. As much as anyone can be blinded by the MSM and their way of spinning things, you have been just as blinded by the other end of the spectum. You just believe a different set of lies - but they are still lies.

http://blogs.alterne...on-afghanistan/

http://www.adeparadi...a-news&Itemid=3

2 minutes search.

http://blogs.alterne...on-afghanistan/

http://www.adeparadi...a-news&Itemid=3

2 minutes search.

Didn't think anyone would actually follow one of your links, eh? Neither of them mentions pro-NATO Afghan forces doing the same. The first blog talks about how lucky the girl is to go to America for free plastic surgery and the second whines that this is being used by the pro-invasion side to support their position just like they use wikileaks and others sources of bad news out of Afghanistan to promote their own anti-invasion views.

Why is this not on the <deleted> frontpage of the Times magazine Mr. Koheesti?

Do you get the point?

I have to correct as it was an Iraqi girl that was brutally raped and then shot in the face by a US soldier.

My sincere apologies, :jap:

I an a bit disappointed Kohee that you did not take the time to watch the docu i mentioned, it will just take four hours to complete all episodes.

What is four hours of your life?

You could finish the thing within a month by just watching one hour a week and let it all sink in.

You say you are looking for the truth but it seems spending four hours of your precious life which would reveal how we all (including you) have been fooled is too much.

What are you afraid of?

Why is this not on the <deleted> frontpage of the Times magazine Mr. Koheesti?

Do you get the point?

Can't watch it here at work - youtube is blocked. Does it have anything to do with the subject at hand? Your videos often don't.

The point I get is that you make false accusations and won't admit you're wrong. Just like some other guy here making false accusations about the Gitmo. When asked for proof you dance and dodge, ignoring requests to back it up.

Off topic - but in today's news it appears that a team of eye doctors and their Afghan helpers were slaughtered in Northern Afghanistan recently, because they are Christians.

They had been in Nuristan healing people, were on their way back to Kabul.

I don't know if they were also proselytising (sp?), but they were certainly doing more good than their Taliban executioners.

How can I make a false accusation if the guy (and some of his mates) that did this, have been trailed and convicted of killing a whole family including a 5 year old girl and gang raped a litlle girl and shot her in the face after after she was gang raped by some distorted person?

As I said the abuse of women happens all around the world, not only in Afghanistan.

Why does the Times not focus on women abuse around the world, including Thailand?

How can I make a false accusation if the guy (and some of his mates) that did this, have been trailed and convicted of killing a whole family including a 5 year old girl and gang raped a litlle girl and shot her in the face after after she was gang raped by some distorted person?

As I said the abuse of women happens all around the world, not only in Afghanistan.

Why does the Times not focus on women abuse around the world, including Thailand?

Funny how you only seem to care about "it happens everywhere" when it's your boys in the black turbans committing the atrocities.

So you deny that this rape and killing happened?

So you deny that this rape and killing happened?

This thread isn't about rape. This thread is about mutilating women by hacking off bits of face. YOU claimed that pro-NATO Afghan forces did the same. When asked several times to back up that claim, you can't. So you try to change the discussion and make it about rape. YOU are no better than a politician.

Off topic - but in today's news it appears that a team of eye doctors and their Afghan helpers were slaughtered in Northern Afghanistan recently, because they are Christians.

They had been in Nuristan healing people, were on their way back to Kabul.

I don't know if they were also proselytising (sp?), but they were certainly doing more good than their Taliban executioners.

Here's the story. There were not proselytizing according to the article.

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KABUL, Afghanistan – Ten members of medical team, including six Americans, were shot and killed by militants as they were returning from providing eye treatment and other health care in remote villages of northern Afghanistan, a spokesman for the team said Saturday.

Dirk Frans, director of the International Assistance Mission, said one German, one Briton and two Afghans also were a part of the team that made the two-week trip to Nuristan province. They drove to the province, left their vehicles and hiked for hours over mountainous terrain to reach the Parun valley in the province's northwest.

Taliban spokesman Zabiullah Mujahid told The Associated Press in Pakistan that they killed the foreigners because they were "spying for the Americans" and "preaching Christianity."

Frans said the International Assistance Mission is registered as a nonprofit Christian organization but it does not proselytize.

Remainder of story here: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100807/ap_on_re_as/as_afghanistan