The News of the World closes next Sunday...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2012326/James-Murdoch-announces-NOTW-close-Sunday.html

Just being re-opened as the Sunday Sun by all accounts.

Murdoch is just re-grouping while making out he is doing it on moral grounds, the man is utterly remorseless.

There's a lot of people that are very, very unhappy about this. And there's no doubt rather a lot of other tabloid's looking over their shoulders right now.

It will probably enable Murdoch to avoid any proper enquiry into the events leading to the closure.

'News of the Screws' morphs into the 'Sinday Sun' and everyone gets a pay-rise.

Best to seize all Murdoch assets in UK and use them to compensate the victims.

No trial, no pause - just do it today.

Nothing from Boater yet?

Thought this'd be right up his alley.

I thought the heading was "nowt down the toilet"....

But I suppose that fits as well.

Nothing from Boater yet?

Thought this'd be right up his alley.

i have been in shock to much, what will i read on sunday !

but what he done was disgrassful

Nothing from Boater yet?

Thought this'd be right up his alley.

i have been in shock to much, what will i read on sunday !

but what he done was disgrassful

Don't think it was Rupert so much, but that woman with the flyaway hair and his son (James??).

She should be sentenced to having a hairstyle, at the very least.

But they'll all get away with it - too many secrets about too many powerful people filed away.

Nothing from Boater yet?

Thought this'd be right up his alley.

i have been in shock to much, what will i read on sunday !

but what he done was disgrassful

Don't think it was Rupert so much, but that woman with the flyaway hair and his son (James??).

She should be sentenced to having a hairstyle, at the very least.

But they'll all get away with it - too many secrets about too many powerful people filed away.

It seems that having private information from important people has, from it's inherant power, less of an inducement to repugnance than having private information from ordinary citizens.

I thought the heading was "nowt down the toilet"....

But I suppose that fits as well.

WB.

Nothing from Boater yet?

Thought this'd be right up his alley.

i have been in shock to much, what will i read on sunday !

but what he done was disgrassful

Don't think it was Rupert so much, but that woman with the flyaway hair and his son (James??).

She should be sentenced to having a hairstyle, at the very least.

But they'll all get away with it - too many secrets about too many powerful people filed away.

It seems that having private information from important people has, from it's inherant power, less of an inducement to repugnance than having private information from ordinary citizens.

The thing that really kicked it off was that they deleted texts which could have helped in a murder enquiry from the phone of a murder victim in order to free up room for more texts because the mailbox on the phone was full.

[i tend to agree with Dennis Potter's view of Rupert Murdoch and his style of journalism.

"There is no one person more responsible for the pollution of what was already a fairly polluted press. And the pollution of the press is an important part of the pollution of British political life, and it's an important part of the cynicism and misperception of our own realities that is destroying so much of our political discourse. "

The thing that really kicked it off was that they deleted texts which could have helped in a murder enquiry from the phone of a murder victim in order to free up room for more texts because the mailbox on the phone was full.

I just saw that article and frankly, thats heinous. Simply heinous.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/jul/04/milly-dowler-voicemail-hacked-news-of-world

But the journalists at the News of the World then encountered a problem. Milly's voicemail box filled up and would accept no more messages. Apparently thirsty for more information from more voicemails, the paper intervened – and deleted the messages that had been left in the first few days after her disappearance. According to one source, this had a devastating effect: when her friends and family called again and discovered that her voicemail had been cleared, they concluded that this must have been done by Milly herself and, therefore, that she must still be alive. But she was not. The interference created false hope and extra agony for those who were misled by it.

Fry & Laurie on Rupert :-

The vast majority of the people at the NofW are innocent of any charges, but have been targeted by Murdock to try and salvage his other media concerns, unfortunately they are tainted by association by some.

If you are in the limelight and court the fame and fortune then so be it, you have to take the slings and arrows, but dead soldiers famillies, Millie Dowler, Soham, inexcusable, I hope the diversion does not succeed and they are trialled, brought to justice and sentenced to the maximum that they possibly can be.

On a separate issue, I have found it nauseating to see all the boycotting by the readers and the sponsors et al, they have been feeding off the very material that made this Rag so successful, how do they think the propriators got the material in the first place?

Or do people just want to live in an oblivious twilight zone for the sake of their sensibilities.

I really hope they don't look into how their drinking water has been worked on that comes out of their taps, or that wonderful spring water that has been recycled from the cess pits and sewers of the world.

The vast majority of the people at the NofW are innocent of any charges, but have been targeted by Murdock to try and salvage his other media concerns, unfortunately they are tainted by association by some.

If you are in the limelight and court the fame and fortune then so be it, you have to take the slings and arrows, but dead soldiers famillies, Millie Dowler, Soham, inexcusable, I hope the diversion does not succeed and they are trialled, brought to justice and sentenced to the maximum that they possibly can be.

It sounds like you are saying that Hugh Grant is ok to be targetted, but a family member of a dead soldier is not. I can understand the "courting the fame" aspect and agree somewhat....but surely anybody who does not court the fame is as off-limits as a dead soldier's family?

Dead soldiers are emotive. Your latter post alludes to the exposure of the crimes of NOTW being a media circus stitch-up. Indeed, the focusing on dead soldiers and murder victims, making the story emotive, makes the story a tad tawdry.

On a separate issue, I have found it nauseating to see all the boycotting by the readers and the sponsors et al, they have been feeding off the very material that made this Rag so successful, how do they think the propriators got the material in the first place?

Or do people just want to live in an oblivious twilight zone for the sake of their sensibilities.

I really hope they don't look into how their drinking water has been worked on that comes out of their taps, or that wonderful spring water that has been recycled from the cess pits and sewers of the world.

It's like the outcry against the paparazzi after the death of Princess Diana, they were just feeding the ever hungry maw of the women's magazines who had made her a major industry.

I can't recall any of them being shut down.

I thought the heading was "nowt down the toilet"....

But I suppose that fits as well.

I did a double take at first too.

First thought was Endure was having problems with constipation.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2013133/Rebekah-Brooks-News-World-staff-parting-shot-crossword.html

The vast majority of the people at the NofW are innocent of any charges, but have been targeted by Murdock to try and salvage his other media concerns, unfortunately they are tainted by association by some.

If you are in the limelight and court the fame and fortune then so be it, you have to take the slings and arrows, but dead soldiers famillies, Millie Dowler, Soham, inexcusable, I hope the diversion does not succeed and they are trialled, brought to justice and sentenced to the maximum that they possibly can be.

It sounds like you are saying that Hugh Grant is ok to be targetted, but a family member of a dead soldier is not. I can understand the "courting the fame" aspect and agree somewhat....but surely anybody who does not court the fame is as off-limits as a dead soldier's family?

Dead soldiers are emotive. Your latter post alludes to the exposure of the crimes of NOTW being a media circus stitch-up. Indeed, the focusing on dead soldiers and murder victims, making the story emotive, makes the story a tad tawdry.

At the weekend there was an interview on ABC News with an ex-editor of the NotW - McMullin?? - and he was saying that the phones never stopped ringing, with publicists for all these 'celebrities' trying to get their names in the paper, to keep their profile level as high as possible. I see no really dark and dirty deeds being done to such people - if they get good puffs in the paper, then why not bad ones as well. The thing with the soldiers' families, the families of disappeared kids, the families of murder victims and so on, is that all they want is their kids back, or being left alone to grieve and get over the tragedy. They do not want the attention, they do nt realise how intrusive such newspaperas are, they do not want to get out of the rut of their normal, boring, lives. But without being asked, you get all this intrusive doorstep journalism, paparazzi, phone-hacking and all the other antics of the Murdoch press.

(Yes, I know others do it as well, but News Corp. is the leader of the pack)

‘woman stares wildly at calamity’

I've personally noted that expression a few times...

‘woman stares wildly at calamity’

I've personally noted that expression a few times...

Red sock in the laundry?

the daily mail is next, and hopefully the sun. the information commissioner's office report showed that the mail had far, far more occasions where they had used private investigators to secure information than the NOTW ever did.

it's now just a question of who else they have hacked. 9/11 victims, MPs, government ministers, senior police, more members of the royal family. . . .it's all up for grabs.

the daily mail is next, and hopefully the sun. the information commissioner's office report showed that the mail had far, far more occasions where they had used private investigators to secure information than the NOTW ever did.

it's now just a question of who else they have hacked. 9/11 victims, MPs, government ministers, senior police, more members of the royal family. . . .it's all up for grabs.

That depends on the instructions the PIs were given, and the methods they used to get the results.

The PIs for the NotW have surely exceeded any professional ethics laid down, and probably broken several laws as well, plus impeding the police in an investigation (or several).

Plus the NotW seems to have paid off a considerable number of coppers. This goes far beyond buying a sergeant a few pints in the local, which I used to do fairly frequently. (We had rubbish skips on many roads in Hammersmith and K&C).

But the enquiry(ies) will drag on for years and I doubt you'll find that anything exists now that can prove wrongdoing by other papers. The shredders must have been glowing red over the past couple of weeks, all over London.

The authorities will be nervous too.

Murdoch has rightly boasted that in an election, the next PM will be the one that his papers endorses.

The vast majority of the people at the NofW are innocent of any charges, but have been targeted by Murdock to try and salvage his other media concerns, unfortunately they are tainted by association by some.

If you are in the limelight and court the fame and fortune then so be it, you have to take the slings and arrows, but dead soldiers famillies, Millie Dowler, Soham, inexcusable, I hope the diversion does not succeed and they are trialled, brought to justice and sentenced to the maximum that they possibly can be.

It sounds like you are saying that Hugh Grant is ok to be targetted, but a family member of a dead soldier is not. I can understand the "courting the fame" aspect and agree somewhat....but surely anybody who does not court the fame is as off-limits as a dead soldier's family?

Dead soldiers are emotive. Your latter post alludes to the exposure of the crimes of NOTW being a media circus stitch-up. Indeed, the focusing on dead soldiers and murder victims, making the story emotive, makes the story a tad tawdry.

At the weekend there was an interview on ABC News with an ex-editor of the NotW - McMullin?? - and he was saying that the phones never stopped ringing, with publicists for all these 'celebrities' trying to get their names in the paper, to keep their profile level as high as possible. I see no really dark and dirty deeds being done to such people - if they get good puffs in the paper, then why not bad ones as well. The thing with the soldiers' families, the families of disappeared kids, the families of murder victims and so on, is that all they want is their kids back, or being left alone to grieve and get over the tragedy. They do not want the attention, they do nt realise how intrusive such newspaperas are, they do not want to get out of the rut of their normal, boring, lives. But without being asked, you get all this intrusive doorstep journalism, paparazzi, phone-hacking and all the other antics of the Murdoch press.

(Yes, I know others do it as well, but News Corp. is the leader of the pack)

Why were the dead soldiers' families being hacked? I would have thought it would have been to glean information that was of public interest and not public knowledge......eg where and how a soldier had actually died and not what had been officially released. The readership and the families would not have needed to know where the information came from ("sources") and thus would have remained undisturbed, while the public were being informed of a high level cover-up.

But I have never read it, so I would have to say that I am naive as far as knowing what the editors may have been thinking.

the daily mail is next, and hopefully the sun. the information commissioner's office report showed that the mail had far, far more occasions where they had used private investigators to secure information than the NOTW ever did.

it's now just a question of who else they have hacked. 9/11 victims, MPs, government ministers, senior police, more members of the royal family. . . .it's all up for grabs.

That depends on the instructions the PIs were given, and the methods they used to get the results.

The PIs for the NotW have surely exceeded any professional ethics laid down, and probably broken several laws as well, plus impeding the police in an investigation (or several).

Plus the NotW seems to have paid off a considerable number of coppers. This goes far beyond buying a sergeant a few pints in the local, which I used to do fairly frequently. (We had rubbish skips on many roads in Hammersmith and K&C).

But the enquiry(ies) will drag on for years and I doubt you'll find that anything exists now that can prove wrongdoing by other papers. The shredders must have been glowing red over the past couple of weeks, all over London.

aww, shredders. bless you and your outmoded technologies. they just delete emails and destroy hard drives these days mate.

the PIs the NOTW used went way beyond ethics and simply broke the law under instruction from the NOTW. what will be interesting to see now is what copies of what were kept and stored elsewhere. modern technology has made it easier than ever for parties involved in this clusterfuc_k to have blackmail material located all over the place.

Makes me glad I only read notthenation.

You'll all be pleased to hear I was not badly affected by the riots on Saturday, and it was a good excuse not to go into town. I sat in the pub next door and listened to the Wigan Quins game, instead.

The Village was particularly quiet....

SC

The vast majority of the people at the NofW are innocent of any charges, but have been targeted by Murdock to try and salvage his other media concerns, unfortunately they are tainted by association by some.

If you are in the limelight and court the fame and fortune then so be it, you have to take the slings and arrows, but dead soldiers famillies, Millie Dowler, Soham, inexcusable, I hope the diversion does not succeed and they are trialled, brought to justice and sentenced to the maximum that they possibly can be.

It sounds like you are saying that Hugh Grant is ok to be targetted, but a family member of a dead soldier is not. I can understand the "courting the fame" aspect and agree somewhat....but surely anybody who does not court the fame is as off-limits as a dead soldier's family?

Dead soldiers are emotive. Your latter post alludes to the exposure of the crimes of NOTW being a media circus stitch-up. Indeed, the focusing on dead soldiers and murder victims, making the story emotive, makes the story a tad tawdry.

I don't think HG courts publicity, except for promotion of one of his films maybe, but in general, I am not so sure, although I may be wrong here. However, I also hear he stood up well to rather explicit questions on 'Question Time', and came out looking good and those attacking his time on Sunset Boulevard, rather stupid.

And yes, a dead soldiers family is definately off limits, with the proviso that if it is a suspicious death or cover-up then it is open to some of the great investigative Journos, Toolis and Taylor spring to mind.

I do not think my latter post alludes to a stitch up, it is clearly a statement against the hypocrisy of the readers and sponsors who dropped the paper because of the means of its content and yet they bought or paid for its content, without thinking where that content came from.

And now the Sunday Times and the Sun are put into the same bucket of garbage, with reports that they have suborned at least one member of the royal bodyguard.

Will Murdoch survive in UK?

Will the SKY team be forced to withdraw from the Tour de France?

Watch this space.