I'M Confused On 90 Day And Oa Visa

[giddyup]

I've just been to Immigration at Jomtien (Pattaya) for my 90 day check-in. Because my OA (retirement) visa expires on the 25th of this month I asked if I could now do the renewal at the end of the 90 days, and they told me no. When you do your 12 month renewal for the OA it's the same as doing it for the first time, supplying bank statements etc. So what difference would it make to do the OA at the end of my 90 day period? I hope this all makes sense.

[lopburi3]

When does your current permitted to stay until end? If 25 July do not understand why they would not do now as it should always be done early in case of missing paperwork. Or are you asking if you can do at the end of your next 90 day period? Your post is not too clear as the same paperwork is always required for all yearly extensions of stay (not just the first time).

[billd766]

I am goung to renew my extension in a couple of weeks at my local Immigration office in Nakhon Sawan and they have always reset my 90 check in to coincide with the extension.

[Gary A]

My 90 day visit is never in sync with the extension due date, I usually leave the country for one reason or another every year. The day I get back into Thailand resets the date back to 90 days.

[lopburi3]

I am goung to renew my extension in a couple of weeks at my local Immigration office in Nakhon Sawan and they have always reset my 90 check in to coincide with the extension.

That is not normal. And does not seem to be what OP is asking; but admit it is not clear.

[giddyup]

When does your current permitted to stay until end? If 25 July do not understand why they would not do now as it should always be done early in case of missing paperwork. Or are you asking if you can do at the end of your next 90 day period? Your post is not too clear as the same paperwork is always required for all yearly extensions of stay (not just the first time).

My OA (retirement visa) expires on the 25th July. Because I did my 90 day stay today, I thought that I could renew my OA at the end of the 90 days, which is the 14th October. The guy I spoke to when I did the 90 days said the two are totally separate and I will have to renew the OA visa on or before the 25th of this month. He did say you can renew the OA up to a month before it expires.

[lopburi3]

And that is the correct information - you need to do before your current permitted to stay expires and best to do several weeks early - you could have done at the same time as you just made 90 day report if you had the correct documents. 90 day reporting has nothing to do with extensions of stay and does not allow any stay.

[giddyup]

And that is the correct information - you need to do before your current permitted to stay expires and best to do several weeks early - you could have done at the same time as you just made 90 day report if you had the correct documents. 90 day reporting has nothing to do with extensions of stay and does not allow any stay.

Why best to do several weeks early? I normally renew my OA on the day it expires or the day before. Thanks for confirming what I was told at Immigration.

[Jingthing]

What you call an "O-A renewal" is actually an application for annual extension based on retirement. Yes you can apply for that 30 days before the current permission to stay ending date. The reason to apply early is that if there is something wrong with your application you still have plenty of time to fix it. Many people think it is best to wait until near the last day because they think they LOSE days from the NEW annual permission to stay by applying early. Actually, that is not true. If you apply 30 days early you get the exact same dates for the new annual permission to stay. It BEGINS the day after your current permission to stay ends in either case.

[ubonjoe]

Doing it early is advised as a just in case your supporting documents are not complete.

If you go on the last day and come up short you might have to pay an overstay fine when you come back the next day.

[Mario2008]

Simple: In case you are missing documents, you have time to arrange them. The extension will always start from the day your current permission to stay ends, so you don't lose any days.

Never wait till the last day. The car can break down, etc, etc.

[Lite Beer]

Allways best to do a few weeks early in case of any new requirements or forgotten documents.

You then have time to sort it out.

I always do mine a month early.

[Jingthing]

BTW, I should mention as this is about Jomtien is that the latest information I have is that Jomtien accepts applications for annual extensions based on retirement as early as TWO MONTHS without any excuse needed. I say this only because we haven't gotten any reports here since they changed that from three months to two months saying they are now down to one month. This is only about Jomtien as the national convention is one month early accepted.

[Sateev]

Is your O-A a multiple entry visa? I believe that's all they're issuing now. If so, and if it is within your validity period, you can simply go across any border, and get another year, free and clear. The only difference would be that you need a reentry permit if you want to leave again and come back during the next year.

Otherwise, there is NO 'renewing' of an O-A visa within Thailand - you would simply apply for an extension of stay.

Am I missing something?

The 90-day report has nothing whatsoever to do with your permit to stay. Any time you are here continuously for 90 days, you need to do the report. If you leave, the 90 days starts again at 0 when you return.

If you are here during the validity period of your O-A visa (expiring 25 July), just hop on a visa run service before than, out, in, bingo, another year.

[Sateev]

And that is the correct information - you need to do before your current permitted to stay expires and best to do several weeks early - you could have done at the same time as you just made 90 day report if you had the correct documents. 90 day reporting has nothing to do with extensions of stay and does not allow any stay.

Why best to do several weeks early? I normally renew my OA on the day it expires or the day before. Thanks for confirming what I was told at Immigration.

Missed this post, which indicates that the OP doesn't know the difference between an O-A retirement visa, and an extension of stay.

Please disregard my previous, well-reasoned and insightful post

[Jingthing]

It is true that an O-A MULTIPLE entry visa can be used to get an additional one year stay if you exit Thailand and reenter before the expiration date of the visa. If the OP is in that situation, that would be the smartest option! This does not apply if the O-A is not multiple. This does not apply if the O-A has ALREADY previously been extended with an annual extension. Also, many people think/say they have an O-A and they actually ... don't.

[giddyup]

Is your O-A a multiple entry visa? I believe that's all they're issuing now. If so, and if it is within your validity period, you can simply go across any border, and get another year, free and clear. The only difference would be that you need a reentry permit if you want to leave again and come back during the next year.

Otherwise, there is NO 'renewing' of an O-A visa within Thailand - you would simply apply for an extension of stay.

Am I missing something?

The 90-day report has nothing whatsoever to do with your permit to stay. Any time you are here continuously for 90 days, you need to do the report. If you leave, the 90 days starts again at 0 when you return.

If you are here during the validity period of your O-A visa (expiring 25 July), just hop on a visa run service before than, out, in, bingo, another year.

Not have to renew the OA visa if living in Thailand? That's news to me as I was at Immigration today and they told me it would have to be renewed before it expires. What can be the advantage of doing a visa run when I can just go to Immigration with the correct paperwork and get another year.

[giddyup]

And that is the correct information - you need to do before your current permitted to stay expires and best to do several weeks early - you could have done at the same time as you just made 90 day report if you had the correct documents. 90 day reporting has nothing to do with extensions of stay and does not allow any stay.

Why best to do several weeks early? I normally renew my OA on the day it expires or the day before. Thanks for confirming what I was told at Immigration.

Missed this post, which indicates that the OP doesn't know the difference between an O-A retirement visa, and an extension of stay.

Please disregard my previous, well-reasoned and insightful post

Yes, sorry. I don't know why I was calling the Retirement Visa an OA.