cbrer Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 At least these new 500's don't get stung too bad.In relation, the 25-30k the Kawa 650's are supposedly hit with would definitely be noticed! Yes the ninja will be over 300k with insurance if those figures are true. The Versys up to just under 320k from one picture of a pricelist on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserlazer Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 So now a good 100 k difference between cbr500 and 650f and 70 k between 650n and ninja 250 will be much more closer to cbr500 maybe 10 k closer. Buying a cbr500 is super reasonable than before in Thailand! Bad days are waiting kawa and good luck for the riders bought their bikes before the increase. I am sure honda was aware of this situation and made their bike less than 500cc:lol: Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect App Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 The government press release had the tax rise coming into effect on 19th December 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 (edited) The government press release had the tax rise coming into effect on 19th December 2012. It is funny I put a deposit on a N250 on 12/18/12 Not that 8k...$240 is a big deterrent but still. Will be interesting to see if they try to stick me for it since delivery is after the deadline. Although my deposit receipt clearly states the total as 158,500 hmm Edited December 26, 2012 by mania Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackpanda Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Just heard from my local Honda dealer Pcx 150 1k up CBR 250 3k up Crf 250 3.5k up CBR 150 is the same!! How much more is the ninja 250? 3k up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Yes, CBR 150 R should be unchanged as it is 149.4 cc (less than 150 cc remains at an excise duty of 3%). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wantan Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Pcx 150 1k up The PCX was way too cheap for such great scooter... CBR150 rules! Hondas new 500cc bikes are getting too expensive in LOS. Such bike "Made in Thailand" should be cheaper in Thailand. Hope the first reports written by the proud owners will fit to the price. There was a time i was hoping we would get a Honda 500cc for not much more than 150k. But bike business in Thailand is greedy. And i am a dreamer it seems 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinchester Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Still a bargain compared to the 300k Ninja. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushi5734 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 The ern6 was down 50k here in Korat a week or two ago as was the 250 ninja. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbrer Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 (edited) ninja 250 will be much more closer to cbr500 maybe 10 k closer. Both will suffer the same tax increase as they're both in the same bracket (150-500cc) If both have the same policy of that that tax being passed onto the customer then the price different will be larger, not smaller. How you work out that the N250 is to jump 16k baht I'm not sure. Edited December 26, 2012 by cbrer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_boo Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Pcx 150 1k up The PCX was way too cheap for such great scooter... CBR150 rules! Hondas new 500cc bikes are getting too expensive in LOS. Such bike "Made in Thailand" should be cheaper in Thailand. Hope the first reports written by the proud owners will fit to the price. There was a time i was hoping we would get a Honda 500cc for not much more than 150k. But bike business in Thailand is greedy. And i am a dreamer it seems Well, the competitors are at 160 and 270K baht. Whereas in the States they are $4500 (135K THB...but that's the carb'd version) and $8100 (243K THB). My understanding is both the Kawi bikes are made in LOS also. While still a markup, at some 25K THB over the retail price (not out the door cost!) it's not as bad as the competitor is doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbrer Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 CBR150 rules! Hondas new 500cc bikes are getting too expensive in LOS. Such bike "Made in Thailand" should be cheaper in Thailand. Hope the first reports written by the proud owners will fit to the price. There was a time i was hoping we would get a Honda 500cc for not much more than 150k. But bike business in Thailand is greedy. And i am a dreamer it seems Yup, you'll have to go to America for that... What's the CBR500 there, 180k baht? A low cost, budget bike where it's sold as such. Thailand's price was questionable at the beginning, now it's a bit of a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbrer Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Anyway, back to the CBR500. Are there no videos of Thai boys topping it out along Viphawadee at 3am with 60psi in their tyres yet? Surely some local guy has put up some vids of him redlining it while cold somewhere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_boo Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 CBR150 rules! Hondas new 500cc bikes are getting too expensive in LOS. Such bike "Made in Thailand" should be cheaper in Thailand. Hope the first reports written by the proud owners will fit to the price. There was a time i was hoping we would get a Honda 500cc for not much more than 150k. But bike business in Thailand is greedy. And i am a dreamer it seems Yup, you'll have to go to America for that... What's the CBR500 there, 180k baht? A low cost, budget bike where it's sold as such. Thailand's price was questionable at the beginning, now it's a bit of a joke. A bit of a joke? All the low cost, budget bikes (CBR 150, CBR 250, Ninja 250, CB*500, ER-6*) are separated fairly well in pricing re their performance. The gap between the two midget CBRs could be used as a baseline. HP wise, there's some 6 HP between them. For that 'upgrade' you're paying some 30K THB.or 5000 THB/HP. Going from the CBR 250 to the Ninja 250 you're paying some 27K THB/HP (10,5K THB/HP coming from the CBR 150). From the Ninja 250 to the CBR 500 you're paying some 3,3K THB/HP (and 5,3 THB/HP from the CBR 250). From the CBR 500 to the ER-6* you're paying some 3,2K THB/HP. Seems to be fairly well situated... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbrer Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 (edited) No, it's a bit of a joke that it's 183k baht after being shipped half way around the World to America, and it is now 214k baht here in Thailand where it is made. 31,000thb/US$1000 more. So yes, it is a bit of a joke. Edited December 26, 2012 by cbrer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wantan Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 A bit of a joke? All the low cost, budget bikes (CBR 150, CBR 250, Ninja 250, CB*500, ER-6*) are separated fairly well in pricing re their performance. The gap between the two midget CBRs could be used as a baseline. HP wise, there's some 6 HP between them. For that 'upgrade' you're paying some 30K THB.or 5000 THB/HP. Going from the CBR 250 to the Ninja 250 you're paying some 27K THB/HP (10,5K THB/HP coming from the CBR 150). From the Ninja 250 to the CBR 500 you're paying some 3,3K THB/HP (and 5,3 THB/HP from the CBR 250). From the CBR 500 to the ER-6* you're paying some 3,2K THB/HP. Seems to be fairly well situated... As always an interesting statistic. Maybe all is well situated, but not fair, cause all bikes in LOS are too expensive. We are talking about "Made in Thailand - Sold in Thailand". This should be reflected in the price imo. And for me its not the hp/baht value thats important, its the fun/baht value 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_boo Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 No, it's a bit of a joke that it's 183k baht after being shipped half way around the World to America, and it is now 214k baht here in Thailand where it is made. 31,000thb/US$1000 more. So yes, it is a bit of a joke. Keeps going up doesn't it? Latest confirmed price per this thread is 210K. But once again, if you want US prices (and taxes and ...) it's not that hard to live there. Oh, and considering the prices charged in Europe, it's probably going to be much cheaper in LOS than there...just like the other bikes in the same range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackpanda Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 (edited) In America it's 6k US dollars for the non abs version and 6.5k US dollars for the abs model. But that doesn't include tax, insurance, and registration. And who is to say they are not going to produce the bike in America as well. I think they might be producing it in Europe as well. I think Thailand will be producing the bike for Thailand and Maybe other countries in Asia. Edited December 27, 2012 by blackpanda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicbr Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 No, it's a bit of a joke that it's 183k baht after being shipped half way around the World to America, and it is now 214k baht here in Thailand where it is made.31,000thb/US$1000 more. So yes, it is a bit of a joke. But you cannot really use US prices. Every thing is cheaper in the States. Also those US prices you are quoting. Are they on the road prices. My understanding is that can add at least $500 to the price. sent from my Q6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BirdsandBooze Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 No, it's a bit of a joke that it's 183k baht after being shipped half way around the World to America, and it is now 214k baht here in Thailand where it is made.31,000thb/US$1000 more. So yes, it is a bit of a joke. But you cannot really use US prices. Every thing is cheaper in the States. Also those US prices you are quoting. Are they on the road prices. My understanding is that can add at least $500 to the price. sent from my Q6 True about the pricing, manufacturers will charge whatever they think a particular market will stand. Thailand is a small market for big bikes and the manufacturers know their target group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackpanda Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 (edited) You can compare locally made Thai bike to US bike. The CBR 250 for example is cheaper here in Thailand. CRF 250 I'm not sure. And now the CBR 500 will be cheaper If you count the on the road price. I think you will be looking at about 1k US dollar to get the bike on the road in America. Making the price of the US model more expensive. Edited December 27, 2012 by blackpanda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bramds Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 So the first batch of CBR500's has been released, but where are they? I am out and about on the road in Bangkok every day and I haven't spotted one. The only thing I see is more ER-6's than before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sup3r1or Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Here is a video of some lucky git getting his CBR 500R delivered to his house. From what I can see there another one standing just right next to his gate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 So the first batch of CBR500's has been released, but where are they? I am out and about on the road in Bangkok every day and I haven't spotted one. The only thing I see is more ER-6's than before. I have been watching the Internet expecting to see some magazines test it & also you tube to hear some real world riders impressions. But as yet nothing. Surprising as usually by the time a bike officially hits the road there are some tests allowed to magazines etc. But quiet this time. Like you but up here in Chiangmai I have seen new Ninjas out on the road including a few 2013 250's now I am not a buyer but like to read impressions of new bikes by riders/magazines. I guess they will be along shortly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bramds Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Here is a video of some lucky git getting his CBR 500R delivered to his house. From what I can see there another one standing just right next to his gate. The bike next to it is a 150. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Here is a video of some lucky git getting his CBR 500R delivered to his house. For me those turn signals & grab rails would be the first to be re-designed/removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackpanda Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 The turn signals look fine to me. Look pretty good smoked IMO. ^^ I think that's a CBR 250 and its not actually next to it, it's quite far away from the footage. It would be nice to see a comparison of the two bike either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackpanda Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Sorry it is a 150. I had to look closely at the other bike. It's the first FI model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sup3r1or Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 For now I just want one. Anyone knows if it takes long to get a bike after you pay 30k first deposit? Also is there any other alternatives to CBR500 in the same price range? Or is it the best option for this price? p.s I live in Chiang Rai and constantly see Ninja 300 parked next to a shop here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankee99 Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 For now I just want one. Anyone knows if it takes long to get a bike after you pay 30k first deposit? Also is there any other alternatives to CBR500 in the same price range? Or is it the best option for this price? p.s I live in Chiang Rai and constantly see Ninja 300 parked next to a shop here. 30,000 deposit is crazy. Kawasaki only requires 10k on their most expensive bike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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