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The most I've ever put down for a deposit here is 5k

 

Yes for common garden vehicle's yes. A Subaru XV is special order and so if ordered hard to sell if no one wan't the color ordered.

 

 

why is it a special order at a Subaru dealer...the XV is the common garden Subaru!

 

 

Yes could be common garden but what if you wanted in a green color and it's not in stock wouldn't that be a special order, so if that was the case why would they refund a deposit. 

That's true. But that's not what you wrote. And to be honest if it was a standard colour that they sell in Thailand I would still not class It as a special order. Its only special if it's ummmm special. No!

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I'm reviving this year-old thread because I'd really appreciate an update comment from Bung on his xv and service at the dealer. (Have they changed dealers recently in Chiangmai or just their location? Because the one I went to - near Promenada - was still setting up the premises. As commented on by others my concern is the criticism of torque and how much this handicaps overtaking on country roads. I live in Chiangmai but would travel in the country too. I'm mulling over getting this car (vs a Skoda Yeti) and my request here is for info from XV owners about

- the Chiangmai dealer and his service and implementation of warranty

- whether the torque problem is a big constraint in overtaking? and if tuning/tweaking is possible in Thailand, without voiding the warranty

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Subaru XV has always been on my list. 0-100 kph in about 10.5 whilst not stellar is not snail like either. They seem to like them in the hilly areas of the USA. After all in some markets they have a 1.6 version which by all accounts is underpowered so the 2.0 they have in Thailand should be ok. Guess if you are going to pack to the gunwales it may struggle a bit.

My concern has been the support and service from Motor Image and its affiliates. Their website is pretty ropey and infrequently updated, it is a real struggle to get them to correspond and their show room at Laem Chabang leaves a lot to be desired. Maybe the one at Chang Mai is better, but I would not want to buy a car and then find the support is not there so would be interested if there are any Subaru owners out there if they could recount their experience.

I want a small SUV under 4.5m long and neither the Juke nor the Ecosport interests me. Currently I am keen on the Mercedes GLA. I know another 1m more than the Subaru but price will not be the determining factor. The Subaru though has 4wd and a higher driving position. The Mercedes the creature comforts, more airbags and a turbocharger. I guess I want a car which will turn heads and I think both the Subaru and the Mercedes will, for different reasons of course

Have to decide by September

I'm reviving this year-old thread because I'd really appreciate an update comment from Bung on his xv and service at the dealer. (Have they changed dealers recently in Chiangmai or just their location? Because the one I went to - near Promenada - was still setting up the premises. As commented on by others my concern is the criticism of torque and how much this handicaps overtaking on country roads. I live in Chiangmai but would travel in the country too. I'm mulling over getting this car (vs a Skoda Yeti) and my request here is for info from XV owners about

- the Chiangmai dealer and his service and implementation of warranty

- whether the torque problem is a big constraint in overtaking? and if tuning/tweaking is possible in Thailand, without voiding the warranty

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The two key questions that I am mulling over before making a final decision are:

- How big a deal is the XV's awd vs. a 2wd (or the awd of other suv s where the awd comes in when needed and is not on all the time like the XV's)?

- How much would I appreciate the XV's huge ground clearance and ruggedness vs. a normal car (or estate) priced up to 2 - 2.4m baht?

My current thinking is: Get the XV and replace it a year later with something which is 4wd, almost as rugged and gives a better ride and performance, has ok servicing facilities and looks to my taste - I don't see such a car/suv available today. I'm guessing the Subaru will rapidly become widely known and therefore be ok on selling price. (For example the skoda estate would be such a vehicle but its 4x4 scout version isn't available here now.)

I will decide by the end of the month.

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I read a report about their ambitious plans for expanding and upgrading Subaru's garages network across Thailand.

Can you really call the Mercedes GLA (or the BMW x1) suv s rather than hatchbacks? I want a degree of competence on occasional forays onto slippery and/or rough roads. Otherwise I too think the GLA looks a nice car.

Subaru XV has always been on my list. 0-100 kph in about 10.5 whilst not stellar is not snail like either. They seem to like them in the hilly areas of the USA. After all in some markets they have a 1.6 version which by all accounts is underpowered so the 2.0 they have in Thailand should be ok. Guess if you are going to pack to the gunwales it may struggle a bit.

My concern has been the support and service from Motor Image and its affiliates. Their website is pretty ropey and infrequently updated, it is a real struggle to get them to correspond and their show room at Laem Chabang leaves a lot to be desired. Maybe the one at Chang Mai is better, but I would not want to buy a car and then find the support is not there so would be interested if there are any Subaru owners out there if they could recount their experience.

I want a small SUV under 4.5m long and neither the Juke nor the Ecosport interests me. Currently I am keen on the Mercedes GLA. I know another 1m more than the Subaru but price will not be the determining factor. The Subaru though has 4wd and a higher driving position. The Mercedes the creature comforts, more airbags and a turbocharger. I guess I want a car which will turn heads and I think both the Subaru and the Mercedes will, for different reasons of course

Have to decide by September

I'm reviving this year-old thread because I'd really appreciate an update comment from Bung on his xv and service at the dealer. (Have they changed dealers recently in Chiangmai or just their location? Because the one I went to - near Promenada - was still setting up the premises. As commented on by others my concern is the criticism of torque and how much this handicaps overtaking on country roads. I live in Chiangmai but would travel in the country too. I'm mulling over getting this car (vs a Skoda Yeti) and my request here is for info from XV owners about

- the Chiangmai dealer and his service and implementation of warranty

- whether the torque problem is a big constraint in overtaking? and if tuning/tweaking is possible in Thailand, without voiding the warranty

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The two key questions that I am mulling over before making a final decision are:

- How big a deal is the XV's awd vs. a 2wd (or the awd of other suv s where the awd comes in when needed and is not on all the time like the XV's)?

- How much would I appreciate the XV's huge ground clearance and ruggedness vs. a normal car (or estate) priced up to 2 - 2.4m baht?

My current thinking is: Get the XV and replace it a year later with something which is 4wd, almost as rugged and gives a better ride and performance, has ok servicing facilities and looks to my taste - I don't see such a car/suv available today. I'm guessing the Subaru will rapidly become widely known and therefore be ok on selling price. (For example the skoda estate would be such a vehicle but its 4x4 scout version isn't available here now.)

I will decide by the end of the month.

the awd is a big deal and the nice thing about subarus is it's symetrical and with the boxer engine, lower center of gravity. Supposedly handling is better. I am sure the experts will chime in and offer their opinion before starting the arguements lol but subaru has a long history with its boxer and awd systems.

The extra ground clearance is noticable and appreciated. Not sure where you plan to drive but being able to see over the cars in front of you is helpful. Roads here are <deleted> in general.

Subaru is widely known among drivers and has a bit of a cult appeal about it. Thank it's rally pedigree for this I guess. WRX for me please :)

Have you looked at the new subaru forester?

I had a serious look at the XV but I could not afford it at the time.

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Yes I read those reports and after an initial expansion not much has happened.

I am nervous about getting a car which is not that well supported and clearly not catching on hugely. I know people say they are selling but when I was over in Thailand in June for three weeks I saw but 2, one at the airport car park and one on the motorway. I really do look at every car I pass and can spot a Subaru almost every time. We have plenty here in Singapore, but not XVs, more Foresters and Imprezas. I tried to look up Subaru sales in Thailand but cannot find any reliable data. I think it was in the 100s.

GLA and X1 are marketed as SUVs but I agree are in fact hatchbacks, in the Mercedes case a rather classy hatchback. In other countries they have a 4wd version but in Thailand we are only given a 2wd version. Definitely does not have the ground clearance of a Subaru. I thinking wading ability rather than off road ability can be quite helpful in Thailand

If a few Subaru owners respond to allay my fears I could still go for the Subaru, but I do not think there are many out there, or many TV Subaru owners

I read a report about their ambitious plans for expanding and upgrading Subaru's garages network across Thailand.

Can you really call the Mercedes GLA (or the BMW x1) suv s rather than hatchbacks? I want a degree of competence on occasional forays onto slippery and/or rough roads. Otherwise I too think the GLA looks a nice car.

Subaru XV has always been on my list. 0-100 kph in about 10.5 whilst not stellar is not snail like either. They seem to like them in the hilly areas of the USA. After all in some markets they have a 1.6 version which by all accounts is underpowered so the 2.0 they have in Thailand should be ok. Guess if you are going to pack to the gunwales it may struggle a bit.

My concern has been the support and service from Motor Image and its affiliates. Their website is pretty ropey and infrequently updated, it is a real struggle to get them to correspond and their show room at Laem Chabang leaves a lot to be desired. Maybe the one at Chang Mai is better, but I would not want to buy a car and then find the support is not there so would be interested if there are any Subaru owners out there if they could recount their experience.

I want a small SUV under 4.5m long and neither the Juke nor the Ecosport interests me. Currently I am keen on the Mercedes GLA. I know another 1m more than the Subaru but price will not be the determining factor. The Subaru though has 4wd and a higher driving position. The Mercedes the creature comforts, more airbags and a turbocharger. I guess I want a car which will turn heads and I think both the Subaru and the Mercedes will, for different reasons of course

Have to decide by September

I'm reviving this year-old thread because I'd really appreciate an update comment from Bung on his xv and service at the dealer. (Have they changed dealers recently in Chiangmai or just their location? Because the one I went to - near Promenada - was still setting up the premises. As commented on by others my concern is the criticism of torque and how much this handicaps overtaking on country roads. I live in Chiangmai but would travel in the country too. I'm mulling over getting this car (vs a Skoda Yeti) and my request here is for info from XV owners about

- the Chiangmai dealer and his service and implementation of warranty

- whether the torque problem is a big constraint in overtaking? and if tuning/tweaking is possible in Thailand, without voiding the warranty

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Well I have seen 4 in th last 2 days on my commute in Bangkok.

Btw, I noticed a Subaru dealer on Petchburi Road that doesn't appear to be motor image group?

XV has lots of competition, new Mazda and at it's price 1.3 million is it? you can add in CRV, Tunas, Pajeros.

Subarus appear to hold their value pretty well if you go by the ones on talad rod .com

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Well I have seen 4 in th last 2 days on my commute in Bangkok.

Btw, I noticed a Subaru dealer on Petchburi Road that doesn't appear to be motor image group?

XV has lots of competition, new Mazda and at it's price 1.3 million is it? you can add in CRV, Tunas, Pajeros.

Subarus appear to hold their value pretty well if you go by the ones on talad rod .com

Guess there are more in the big city and fewer up country. Subarus are great rural cars and should be more of them on the farm but I doubt they will break the pick up monopoly

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I've had mine for a year and 13000 klm. It's been a great car and it's a real pleasure every time I drive it. It ticked a lot of boxes for me, good audio, cruise etc, ground clearance one of the best AWD systems etc. power is normal for a 2 litre and passing just a double tap on the paddle shifters and you are away. Frankly, the cvt makes the most of the cars power and goes better in that. The paddle shifters are especially good down hills. I drove to Chiang Mai from Chiang rai in the pouring rain and it just felt so secure. I counted three pickups freshly binned into the ditches on that day. The brakes are amazing too.

The dealer in Chiang Mai has been great. When I had a service the workshop manager was hovering around checking everything the mechanics did. They are not overwhelmed with cars lined up to be serviced and can give that bit more personal service. I had a look and all the parts were there even new crush washers for the drain plugs. They did everything right, mineral oil up to 10,000, changed at 1000, 5000 and then onto synthetic at 10000. They also did all the diff sand gearbox.

They did have a fire in their showroom so don't know how that has affected them but looks ok. I heard or read somewhere that they have sold 3 times as many XV's than they thought they would in thailand. I have seen plenty on the road.

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Subaru p attaya all sold out waiting list now 5 months

mazda CX5 is getting a bad reputation for excessive road noise europe but its an excellent machine otherwise

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Google diesel particulate filter mazda cx5. Some interesting reading there.

Also with the raft of new high tech diesels being released I wonder how Thailands high sulphur commercial grade diesel fuel is going to work? Or will everyone have to use shell v power each time? Maybe an mate resting thread to start.

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bkkjames, thanks for the comments. The smaller size of the XV suits my needs much better - also I'm strapped for cash right now and Subaru has a 0% financing offer on the XV just now.

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Bung, I am much encouraged by the positive report about the dealer, and on other driving aspects. Thanks. Maybe the fire explains what appears to be the premises I saw getting a clearing and paint job - about half a mile past Promenada.

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Scotssing, your "wading ability rather than off road ability can be quite helpful" is apt because flooding of some sort somewhere in town happens every other year in Chiangmai, my place of abode.smile.png

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bkkjames, thanks for the comments. The smaller size of the XV suits my needs much better - also I'm strapped for cash right now and Subaru has a 0% financing offer on the XV just now.

nice, same with the forester. When I looked at the XV when it first came out, no such 0% was on offer so with 25% down it worked out to 23,000 per month over 48 which is more than I could afford.

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Subaru p attaya all sold out waiting list now 5 months

mazda CX5 is getting a bad reputation for excessive road noise europe but its an excellent machine otherwise

That interests me, that Pattaya, I presume you mean the Laem Chabang outlet, is sold out.

If they give half as good service as Bung's experience with Chang Mai, they may be worth a punt.

I will go and have another talk with them when I am over in three weeks time

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bkkjames, thanks for the comments. The smaller size of the XV suits my needs much better - also I'm strapped for cash right now and Subaru has a 0% financing offer on the XV just now.

nice, same with the forester. When I looked at the XV when it first came out, no such 0% was on offer so with 25% down it worked out to 23,000 per month over 48 which is more than I could afford.

Curious you say the Forester had the 0% finance. Last I checked here it was just the XV and the Outback. I picked up somewhere on the internet that Subaru may have begun a major re-design of their models to make them appeal to more mainstream customers - as the've done somewhat with the XV design - and that the Forester may be next. But as I said for me the Forester is 1) too big, 2) the petrol 2 litre engine is the same as XV's and too weak for the Forester, and 3) the diesel XT is too expensive for what I want to spend now.

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Google diesel particulate filter mazda cx5. Some interesting reading there.

Also with the raft of new high tech diesels being released I wonder how Thailands high sulphur commercial grade diesel fuel is going to work? Or will everyone have to use shell v power each time? Maybe an mate resting thread to start.

Particle filter issues are not isolated to the CX5. Many other diesel cars have problems if driven in city conditions too much. If you drive at low speed / short trips - buy a petrol.

Thailand changed to low sulphur diesel in 2012.

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^^ the Forester is a 2.5 petrol.

^ any link for that? I would be interested to know what kind do diesel they are selling here.

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^^ the Forester is a 2.5 petrol.

^ any link for that? I would be interested to know what kind do diesel they are selling here.

The Forester sold in Thailand is either the 2.0i petrol engine or the 2.0XT turbocharged petrol engine

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At that price I would go the Volvo V40 Cross Country. The interior is light years ahead of the xv and the T5 engine is sweet.

3 year warranty and 5 years free servicing.

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At that price I would go the Volvo V40 Cross Country. The interior is light years ahead of the xv and the T5 engine is sweet.

3 year warranty and 5 years free servicing.

But the Volvo V40 Cross Country here is only 2WD.. the XV is AWD

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At that price I would go the Volvo V40 Cross Country. The interior is light years ahead of the xv and the T5 engine is sweet.

3 year warranty and 5 years free servicing.

But the Volvo V40 Cross Country here is only 2WD.. the XV is AWD
Not a deal breaker. The xv isn't a real off road vehicle and would opt for a local made car for that purpose.

Having owned a couple of imprezas here I would not go that path again without a proper service division.

Motor images warranty program isn't worth the paper it's printed on and parts are comparable with Mercedes Benz parts in price.

Service is bad, lack of service divisions nationwide and parts availability here is a joke.

Subaru Thailand (Motor Image) never again.

Save yourself the headache and buy something with service and warranty and a good dealer network.

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At that price I would go the Volvo V40 Cross Country. The interior is light years ahead of the xv and the T5 engine is sweet.

3 year warranty and 5 years free servicing.

But the Volvo V40 Cross Country here is only 2WD.. the XV is AWD
Not a deal breaker. The xv isn't a real off road vehicle and would opt for a local made car for that purpose.

Having owned a couple of imprezas here I would not go that path again without a proper service division.

Motor images warranty program isn't worth the paper it's printed on and parts are comparable with Mercedes Benz parts in price.

Service is bad, lack of service divisions nationwide and parts availability here is a joke.

Subaru Thailand (Motor Image) never again.

Save yourself the headache and buy something with service and warranty and a good dealer network.

motor image is the only dealer here?

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Hyundai Tucson soon here without the full Import Tax maybe a good deal ? [understand will start at under 1 million.. present one as a full Import starts at 1.3 -1.8 million]

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