^^ seriously Richard.........from a man who claims to own a pretty nice Italian sports bike - I can not call your comments objective.

I can see a connection between Lifan and my motorcycle, can you not see it....?

Lifan may gleen some sound engineering practises from their new conquest but it doesn't make a Lifan an MV....even if it says it on the tank sometime in the future.

You could draw a comparison between the 2 bikes this way. A guy wants a Rolex. But the guy baulks at paying the big dosh for a genuine Rolex and opts instead forr an almost identical replica. At the end of the day he knows what he bought....even if he won't admit it!

The all gear down was a request from a mechanic who worked at Lifan Thailand in the beginning, and has since left the company. I never understood why he wanted all down gear shift pattern.... (by the way he was Thai).

He may have felt the same as GP racers since they all shift 1 up & 5 down.

They feel the up shift is more important & not to be flubbed as they can give

a more positive stab at the gear shift by stepping rather than lifting.

They feel a down shift is a less manic timing wise & they have more time as they are in slowing not

accelerating mode.

But what ever a person prefers it is a simple change to flip the gear lever

on the engine of most bikes. Of course linkage may need changing or adjusting

due to angle difference.

The all gear down was a request from a mechanic who worked at Lifan Thailand in the beginning, and has since left the company. I never understood why he wanted all down gear shift pattern.... (by the way he was Thai).

He may have felt the same as GP racers since they all shift 1 up & 5 down.

They feel the up shift is more important & not to be flubbed as they can give

a more positive stab at the gear shift by stepping rather than lifting.

They feel a down shift is a less manic timing wise & they have more time as they are in slowing not

accelerating mode.

But what ever a person prefers it is a simple change to flip the gear lever

on the engine of most bikes. Of course linkage may need changing or adjusting

due to angle difference.

As I said the Lifan LF 200GY-5 was originally designed to have a gear selection 1 down - 4 up, and as Thailand is the second largest export hub for the Lifan LF200GY-5, Lifan Thailand can provide the parts to change the shift gear to 1 down- 4 up… price is something like 200 THB parts plus 2 hours mechanic work (split the engine correctly*) hours…

To be honest the all gear down is not that bad when you get used to it. Of course like many, I embarrassed myself a few times with shifting down for first and tapping twice up for second ending up revving in natural…

Quality Of Bikes Made In China

I think they're fine.

The CBR250 and 500, Er-6n/f all seem to be okay and their parts are probably 90% Chinese made.

90% Chinese Parts?

So we lost mvagusta what i can see from the photo.

one of my favorite maker.

Sad:(

Not lost, they just introduced the street version of an 800 3-cycls

http://www.mvagusta.it/en/rivale/rivale-800

TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS

Engine in-line three-cylinder, 798 cc

Bore 79.0 mm, stroke 54.3 mm

Maximum power: 125 bhp (92 kW) at 12,000 rpm

Maximum torque: 84 Nm at 8,600 rpm

Rev limiter at 13,000 rpm

Dry weight: 178 kg

Power to weight ratio: 1.42 kg/hp

Tyres: Pirelli Diablo Rosso II 120/70 - ZR 17 (front) and 180/55 ZR 17 (rear)

The supersport version has 148 HP.

Japs take note.

nice bike, who cares who ownes the factory anyway. as long as the products they make are ok. Ducati, mv Agusta, Benelli, Bimota, Triumph, They all have been sold , sometimes more than 1 time.

I can only think of 1 brand that relies on their image and mystique so much that selling it to a foreign company would really hurt it sales.......hardley davidson.

Yesterday I was driving my truck on the freeway

In the rear mirror I saw what looked like a nice

bike, USD forks nice stance etc.

I was doing probably 100-120kph I rolled down the passenger

window to see hear better.

Nice exhaust note

It pulls into the left lane so I slow a bit to let it go by & have a look.

It was a Keeway RKV 200

I was a bit surprised as it was brand new no plate stock exhaust etc.

Sounded good, looked good & was cruising easily past me not sounding strained at all

Impressed as I think it costs close to the same as a Wave 125

So we lost mvagusta what i can see from the photo.

one of my favorite maker.

Sad:(

Not lost, they just introduced the street version of an 800 3-cycls

http://www.mvagusta.it/en/rivale/rivale-800

TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS

Engine in-line three-cylinder, 798 cc

Bore 79.0 mm, stroke 54.3 mm

Maximum power: 125 bhp (92 kW) at 12,000 rpm

Maximum torque: 84 Nm at 8,600 rpm

Rev limiter at 13,000 rpm

Dry weight: 178 kg

Power to weight ratio: 1.42 kg/hp

Tyres: Pirelli Diablo Rosso II 120/70 - ZR 17 (front) and 180/55 ZR 17 (rear)

The supersport version has 148 HP.

Japs take note.

paz, rivale is one my favorite bikes on earth.

By stating the lost of MvAgusta, i just scare after teh agreement with Chinese like what will happen to them when Chinese would like to cut some corners on their beautiful and technically near perfect bikes.