Tea party people twist the constitution for their OWN modern ideological purposes. This is similar to how right wing Christian fundamentalists twist the bible. Surprise! Often the same people. Have I read the constitution? Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze.

Well then; if you've read it you know that it's possible to amend it. Don't you think the amendment process is preferable to things like The Patriot Act, The NDAA, The TSA, Drones over America? Don't you trust the people? That's what a democracy is, right?

The Tea Party as Herr Namm would say is "like a lukewarm fart in a windstorm". They are a symptom of a disease whereby the populace doesn't feel it has any significant input into the formulation of government policy or law or action. They're pretty small potatoes compared to some of the silly and malevolent political alliances America has suffered through in the 237 years since its founding. Yet still laws got made. What is it about this particular president that makes him so unable to overcome the divisions withing our political class. I submit it is because he is an amateur, a dilletante, with no core beliefs or abilities, and only finds himself president because he was electable, not unlike Thailand's Yingluck. NOW WHAT?

spot on

I submit because he is black and so many Americans are racists. Lots of presidents learn on the job. He has long ago graduated from amateur.

I submit because he is black and so many Americans are racists. Lots of presidents learn on the job. He has long ago graduated from amateur.

Well it was just a few months ago you were agreeing he wasn't much but still the Romney devil HAD TO be defeated. Now you're saying he's the second coming of Lincoln but also that he's only president because of affirmative action? Personally I don't believe either of those premises.

I submit because he is black and so many Americans are racists. Lots of presidents learn on the job. He has long ago graduated from amateur.

Well it was just a few months ago you were agreeing he wasn't much but still the Romney devil HAD TO be defeated. Now you're saying he's the second coming of Lincoln but also that he's only president because of affirmative action? Personally I don't believe either of those premises.

He is the Lincoln for gays. That's all I said. He also does represent the fulfillment of part of the DREAM of MLK (and also the prediction of JFK). I NEVER said he is only president because of affirmative action. Never. I can see that was a fun spin for you, but nothing like I have ever said.

I submit because he is black and so many Americans are racists. Lots of presidents learn on the job. He has long ago graduated from amateur.

Well it was just a few months ago you were agreeing he wasn't much but still the Romney devil HAD TO be defeated. Now you're saying he's the second coming of Lincoln but also that he's only president because of affirmative action? Personally I don't believe either of those premises.

He is the Lincoln for gays. That's all I said. He also does represent the fulfillment of part of the DREAM of MLK (and also the prediction of JFK). I NEVER said he is only president because of affirmative action. Never. I can see that was a fun spin for you, but nothing like I have ever said.

You started it. I swapped you one canard for another.

ANYWAY, seriously, could you really see that momma's boy staring down the Soviet Union during the Cuban Missile Crisis? As much as I didn't like Reagan, could you see Obama demanding Gorbachev to "tear down this wall"? Could you see him rallying support for an interstate highway system like Eisenhower or pushing for a New Deal that helped the jobless AND renewed infrastructure like Roosevelt did over huge opposition? No? Me neither.

I submit because he is black and so many Americans are racists. Lots of presidents learn on the job. He has long ago graduated from amateur.

Well it was just a few months ago you were agreeing he wasn't much but still the Romney devil HAD TO be defeated. Now you're saying he's the second coming of Lincoln but also that he's only president because of affirmative action? Personally I don't believe either of those premises.

He is the Lincoln for gays. That's all I said. He also does represent the fulfillment of part of the DREAM of MLK (and also the prediction of JFK). I NEVER said he is only president because of affirmative action. Never. I can see that was a fun spin for you, but nothing like I have ever said.

You started it. I swapped you one canard for another.

ANYWAY, seriously, could you really see that momma's boy staring down the Soviet Union during the Cuban Missile Crisis? As much as I didn't like Reagan, could you see Obama demanding Gorbachev to "tear down this wall"? Could you see him rallying support for an interstate highway system like Eisenhower or pushing for a New Deal that helped the jobless AND renewed infrastructure like Roosevelt did over huge opposition? No? Me neither.

No, but I can see him promising Medvedev that after he is reelected he can be much more flexible in dealing with Putin.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfUmqbtItTE

So you forgot Obamacare, the kind of health reform FDR wanted and a number of presidents since, including NIXON, but it was OBAMA who did it.

Now supposing the U.S administration planned to launch a chemical weapon attack in Syria and blame it on Assad - In effect committing a war crime in order to facilitate obtaining permission from congress to go to war - would that be grounds for impeachment, if the Potus had knowledge of such a scheme?

Leaked emails have allegedly proved that the White House gave the green light to a chemical weapons attack in Syria that could be blamed on Assad's regime and in turn, spur international military action in the devastated country.

A report released on Monday contains an email exchange between two senior officials at British-based contractor Britam Defence where a scheme 'approved by Washington' is outlined explaining that Qatar would fund rebel forces in Syria to use chemical weapons.

Barack Obama made it clear to Syrian president Bashar al-Assad last month that the U.S. would not tolerate Syria using chemical weapons against its own people.

Read more: http://www.dailymail...l#ixzz2JRFUg2ny

So you forgot Obamacare, the kind of health reform FDR wanted and a number of presidents since, including NIXON, but it was OBAMA who did it.

Obamacare is a travesty. I pay $20k/yr in after tax income for healthcare insurance for a family of four that includes 2 minors and none having pre-existing conditions, in addition to the taxes I pay for OTHER people's healthcare. Mark my words, the unintended consequences of that half assed piece of legislation will be HUGE. I predict layoffs in the millions created by that particular unfunded mandate. The insurance companies he invited to help him craft that piece of crap are still laughing I'm sure.

So you forgot Obamacare, the kind of health reform FDR wanted and a number of presidents since, including NIXON, but it was OBAMA who did it.

Obamacare is a travesty. I pay $20k/yr in after tax income for healthcare insurance for a family of four that includes 2 minors and none having pre-existing conditions, in addition to the taxes I pay for OTHER people's healthcare. Mark my words, the unintended consequences of that half assed piece of legislation will be HUGE. I predict layoffs in the millions created by that particular unfunded mandate. The insurance companies he invited to help him craft that piece of crap are still laughing I'm sure.

I get it. You're wealthy thanks to the rich bounty of America and more than likely the CLASS you were born into and the better education that was given to you (likely paid by taxpayers) and now you don't want to give back. A minority. No wonder you detest Obama. He fights for improving economic equality. He fights for making access to health care a basic civil right like in all other civilized countries. I'd say deal with it or change citizenship. Maybe childless people shouldn't need to pay taxes to pay for education of others? Silly? Just as much.

So you forgot Obamacare, the kind of health reform FDR wanted and a number of presidents since, including NIXON, but it was OBAMA who did it.

Obamacare is a travesty. I pay $20k/yr in after tax income for healthcare insurance for a family of four that includes 2 minors and none having pre-existing conditions, in addition to the taxes I pay for OTHER people's healthcare. Mark my words, the unintended consequences of that half assed piece of legislation will be HUGE. I predict layoffs in the millions created by that particular unfunded mandate. The insurance companies he invited to help him craft that piece of crap are still laughing I'm sure.

I get it. You're wealthy thanks to America and now you don't want to give back. A minority. No wonder you detest Obama. He fights for improving economic equality. He fights for making access to health care a basic civil right like in all other civilized countries. I'd say deal with it or change citizenship.

What makes you think I'm wealthy? You mean the fact that I can afford to pay, because I have no other choice, for medical insurance? Because I have a home I don't want to lose, just because someone in my family may become ill?

BTW, he didn't make it a civil right he commanded it and then he failed to fund it. That's just horrible governance. Good for his insurance company buddies though. The supreme Court found his arguments for it unconstitutional but said the government did have taxing authority. Would you say I have received equal protection under the law?

The supreme court did NOT find Obamacare unconstitutional!

As far as the structure of it and the windfall for the insurance companies, I am against that too as are most liberals.

However a real solution, universal health care paid by taxation and cutting out the insurance companies was not politically possible.

It still may be one day. Obamacare is a step forward. It does expand access to almost all citizens.

Obama deserves and will historically get massive credit for his leadership in making this step happen.

I know you are too smart not to know this. If Obama had not cut a deal with the insurance companies, their money would have killed ANY attempt at any access reform. History shows that clearly. Obama had no choice. No president has gotten this far. Obama did. No president could have gotten further at this stage.

The supreme court did NOT find Obamacare unconstitutional!

As far as the structure of it and the windfall for the insurance companies, I am against that too as are most liberals.

However a real solution, universal health care paid by taxation and cutting out the insurance companies was not politically possible.

It still may be one day. Obamacare is a step forward. It does expand access to almost all citizens.

Obama deserves and will historically get massive credit for his leadership in making this step happen.

I know you are too smart not to know this. If Obama had not cut a deal with the insurance companies, their money would have killed ANY attempt at any access reform. History shows that clearly. Obama had no choice. No president has gotten this far. Obama did. No president could have gotten further at this stage.

I didn't say they found it unconstitutional. I said they found the arguments espoused by the government to be unconstitutional, which they were. Roberts the Chief Justice then found a "loophole" under which it would be constitutional, though in his opinion he made it clear it was a sketchy way to bring legislation into law.

Not new information but your spin is purely subjective opinion.

Look, it's OK. You have every right to detest Obama for every moment he is in office just as I had every right to detest W. Bush. I don't think he is ruining the country. I think he is good for the country. History will tell.

Not new information but your spin is purely subjective opinion.

Look, it's OK. You have every right to detest Obama for every moment he is in office just as I had every right to detest W. Bush. I don't think he is ruining the country. I think he is good for the country. History will tell.

I'd like you more if you exercised your right to detest them both based on the evidence and not knee jerk partisanship.

I happen to like the majority of things that Obama stands for so partisanship has nothing to with it. In some fantasy world if a republican was like Obama, I'd like him too.

I get it. You're wealthy thanks to the rich bounty of America and more than likely the CLASS you were born into and the better education that was given to you (likely paid by taxpayers) and now you don't want to give back.

I never understand this statement and always wonder what it means? Too many of my friends came from middle class working families where both mom and dad worked to pay for their education. most of my friends own businesses because they are risk takers and can earn more working for themselves than a job would pay them. 100% of them find insurance payments a huge drain on their budgets. 100% of them volunteer and do community services and give to their churches or favorite chairties so how is that not giving back? Obama has made the American bounty become a thing of the past and is doing NOTHING to make the economy better even the thousands of gay business people who supported mitt saw this as truth.

High cost of medical insurance predates Obama. If Americans really cared about this they would have been open to universal health care and cutting the insurance and big pharma monopoly. But they didn't demand that so they didn't get it. I don't blame Obama. I blame the American voters for allowing themselves to be brainwashed by medical business lobbyists.

BTW, Obama's popularity is now quite solid. No surprise. He is showing more cajones now resisting the shamefully irresponsible and obstructionist republicans. This second term does give him a real chance to be the great president so many American people think he might be.

http://www.washingto...hree-year-high/

Fully 60 percent of Americans have a favorable impression of Obama in the new poll, up slightly from October but a clear shift in opinion from an election year in which his ratings hovered in the mid-to-low 50s. And by 39 percent to 26 percent, the president now has more “strongly” positive ratings than strongly negative reviews, breaking a two-year stretch in which intense opposition was on par with (or higher than) intense support.

High cost of medical insurance predates Obama. If Americans really cared about this they would have been open to universal health care and cutting the insurance and big pharma monopoly. But they didn't demand that so they didn't get it. I don't blame Obama. I blame the American voters for allowing themselves to be brainwashed by medical business lobbyists.

BTW, Obama's popularity is now quite solid. No surprise. He is showing more cajones now resisting the shamefully irresponsible and obstructionist republicans. This second term does give him a real chance to be the great president so many American people think he might be.

http://www.washingto...hree-year-high/

Fully 60 percent of Americans have a favorable impression of Obama in the new poll, up slightly from October but a clear shift in opinion from an election year in which his ratings hovered in the mid-to-low 50s. And by 39 percent to 26 percent, the president now has more “strongly” positive ratings than strongly negative reviews, breaking a two-year stretch in which intense opposition was on par with (or higher than) intense support.

this was polled in minority churches and people on food stamps his popularity among people making more than 50k a yr is closer to half that.

this was polled in minority churches and people on food stamps his popularity among people making more than 50k a yr is closer to half that.

Do you realize how that comes across?

High cost of medical insurance predates Obama. If Americans really cared about this they would have been open to universal health care and cutting the insurance and big pharma monopoly. But they didn't demand that so they didn't get it. I don't blame Obama. I blame the American voters for allowing themselves to be brainwashed by medical business lobbyists.

BTW, Obama's popularity is now quite solid. No surprise. He is showing more cajones now resisting the shamefully irresponsible and obstructionist republicans. This second term does give him a real chance to be the great president so many American people think he might be.

Why would you even invite Big Pharma and big Insurance to the table? Oh, because you're an instrument of their respective lobbies, that's why.

Anyway, I have to take issue with this:

"He is showing more cajones now resisting the shamefully irresponsible and obstructionist republicans. This second term does give him a real chance to be the great president so many American people think he might be".

How is refusing to do your job showing cojones? Granted we're dealing with lesser minds presently, but if Clinton and Gingrich could bridge the gap, so can these idiots.

http://www.amazon.co...n/dp/0195322789

this was polled in minority churches and people on food stamps his popularity among people making more than 50k a yr is closer to half that.

Do you realize how that comes across?

yes, the groups who believe they are victims and have been victamizedes will support the guy who preaches that they are vicitms and have been cheated. the group that understands that justice is blind and does not cry or complain about things not being fair, goes and works to feed themselves and their family does not want the Govt in their business and does not ask for anything from the govt other than to be left alone does not llike this potus.

I happen to like the majority of things that Obama stands for so partisanship has nothing to with it. In some fantasy world if a republican was like Obama, I'd like him too.

Well you've laid out your bona fides as a diehard civil libertarian, at least where gay people are concerned. How do you feel about other people's civil liberties? Is it your contention that the majority of Americans support these types of policies?

http://www.salon.com/2012/10/22/obamas_kill_list_civil_liberties_abuses_democrats_dont_want_to_know/

At least one state has the right (IMHO) approach to the question...

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67 Percent of Texas Republicans Want Obama Impeached

By Noel Sheppard | January 30, 2013 | 16:49

If Democrats are serious about trying to turn Texas blue, they should get a gander at a just-released poll of Lone Star State voters that found 67 percent of Republican respondents support the impeachment of President Obama.

Of greater concern for liberals: the poll was conducted by the left-leaning Public Policy Polling.

As a whole, Texans opposed impeachment 50 percent to 39 percent.

But in the crosstabs, PPP broke this down by party affiliation with Democrats opposed 83 percent to 12 percent, Republicans in favor 67 percent to 18 percent, and Independents opposed 54 percent to 32 percent.

Amazing that even 12 percent of Democrats support impeachment.

Also interesting was the racial breakdown concerning this issue with Whites supporting impeachment 48 percent to 41 percent, Blacks opposed 80 percent to 15 percent, and Hispanics opposed 58 percent to 30 percent.

Read more: http://newsbusters.o...d#ixzz2JWo2ElBj

Texas republicans? What did you expect? Texas will be a blue state in 10 years anyway.

Everybody can relax. BO has this little problem about jobs under control so he is disbanding his Jobs Council this week.

He said it would be his first priority when he was campaigning last year so it would seem he has taken care of it. Never mind that 12-21 million under/unemployed Americans still on unemployment. They just don't understand the big picture.

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Obama's Jobs Council Shutting Down Thursday

By JOSH LEDERMAN, Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama will let his jobs council expire this week without renewing its charter, winding down one source of input from the business community even as unemployment remains stubbornly high.

[PHOTOS: Jobless Keep Searching for Work]

When Obama in January 2011 formed his Council on Jobs and Competitiveness, unemployment was hovering above 9 percent. Two years president later, more than 12 million people in the U.S. are out of work. The unemployment rate has improved to 7.8 percent, but both parties agree that's still too high.

A provision in Obama's executive order establishing the council says it sunsets on Thursday. A White House official said the president does not plan to extend it.

http://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2013/01/31/obamas-jobs-council-shutting-down-thursday

Not to mention, the office for closing Gitmo is shutting down too. Woops, that didn't get done either did it.

Also I hear now, some of the union folks that supported Obamacare are asking for taxpayer assistance. Apparently, it's going to be too expensive for them to pay their premiums. Wasn't that supposed to be fixed too?

This is rich. Right wingers think government has no role in creating jobs. The government closes down a council about jobs. Then blame the government. Make up your minds, why don't you?

Not to mention, the office for closing Gitmo is shutting down too. Woops, that didn't get done either did it.

Also I hear now, some of the union folks that supported Obamacare are asking for taxpayer assistance. Apparently, it's going to be too expensive for them to pay their premiums. Wasn't that supposed to be fixed too?

What a shock. Obama isn't God. Obama changes over time when faced with political realities. No other president ever did that. Impeach him! Call the media!

This opposition is so "Obama Derangement Syndrome" that it isn't even funny.