Elderly Man With Five Year Overstay

[Tafia]

To the UK expats read it, it may enlighten you or at least awaking you to what to expect should you have to return.

http://www.heathrowt...uk-from-abroad/

Edited March 23, 2013 by Tafia

[cooked]

Please don't take this the wrong way it's just a question.

What would an embassy do if someone was simply left on their premises with no ID, no money, nothing, except a passport of that country?

I think that A Thai security guard would call the police. Not a good option.

Why would a security guard ever call the police if a national of that embassy turned up? You don't have to reveal your entire sorry story to the guard at the gate. If you have a passport matching the brand name of the embassy, of course they'll let you in.

... because by the sound of it, someone was planning on dumping a disabled person in front of the gates at midnight or whatever.

[ableguy]

I find many of the answers disturbing with a lack of knowledge, there are so many scenarioes could be played out. Did he decide screw it I will die here. not unusual man in my Soi did it just got morphine ( liver cancer ) stayed in bed till he died about 4 weeks for the final phase. If he had no money what are his options ??? either way we can all say you reap what you sow but maybe it took balls to go the hospital with no money , or it could be he is just a scrounger however I am sure he will not give a fig what happens to his dead body. could go on but am sure the majority will get my drift.

[ableguy]

I am sorry for this guy. In most European countries provisions are made for the elderly. Here much is based on family support.

Best would be to park him at the local Wat and see if the monks have mercy.

Thy have mercy but at a price.

[Palairacois]

Please don't take this the wrong way it's just a question.

What would an embassy do if someone was simply left on their premises with no ID, no money, nothing, except a passport of that country?

I have been visiting a British national in hospital here in KS who is partially paralysed after an accident--the Embassy doesn't want to know--no insurance- no visa and no help from family!!

[lopburi3]

Several off-topic posts removed - this is not about tax or war but about a human life and visa issues

[lopburi3]

Another flame removed.

[uptheos]

"Does the country that he's from have any newspapers that delight in embarrassing their government? Couldn't you get a story in the news media of the country that he's from?"

With all due respect, I don't think the government should have to bail us out of our personal decisions. Most of us have governments that are spilling red ink trying to take care of everyone. We used to call it socialism, and with disdain. I look at deficits with disdain, even though I see them coming from socialism.

Also with the greatest of respect if my country can find billions of pounds to fight wars across the world I'm more than happy for them to spend a few quid getting an old bloke home to die if that's what he wants.

Bingo!

[connda]

In the U.S. there is an industry selling just burial insurance. For over age 50 there are policies with not medical checkup required. The premium is about one dollar a day. Keep paying and it cannot be canceled. These policies are good up to age 100. The payout ranges widely but often is 10k and up. Younger people can get term life or whole life for much less. Three hundred sixty-five dollars a year will seem like too much to some people... But it is good reassurance that things will get handled in the end. Is there insurance of this nature available in Thailand? Not the optimum solution - but it is a workable partial solution to problems like OP cites.

Why burial insurance?

When I die my family will take me to the local wat, and after 3 days of chanting, music, and hanging out, they'll pop me in the oven and hand what's left back to the family after the fire cools down. You give donations to the wat in the amounts you can afford, or what other people donate. Then the family throws a big party and the next day life goes on.

I'm pretty sure that any wat in Thailand will take care of an indigent farang when his life has finally left. An he'd get a good send off too!

[connda]

NancyL,

Kudos on the efforts to help this guy. Two thumbs up!

Edited March 24, 2013 by connda

[JDGRUEN]

In the U.S. there is an industry selling just burial insurance. For over age 50 there are policies with not medical checkup required. The premium is about one dollar a day. Keep paying and it cannot be canceled. These policies are good up to age 100. The payout ranges widely but often is 10k and up. Younger people can get term life or whole life for much less. Three hundred sixty-five dollars a year will seem like too much to some people... But it is good reassurance that things will get handled in the end. Is there insurance of this nature available in Thailand? Not the optimum solution - but it is a workable partial solution to problems like OP cites.

Why burial insurance?

When I die my family will take me to the local wat, and after 3 days of chanting, music, and hanging out, they'll pop me in the oven and hand what's left back to the family after the fire cools down. You give donations to the wat in the amounts you can afford, or what other people donate. Then the family throws a big party and the next day life goes on.

I'm pretty sure that any wat in Thailand will take care of an indigent farang when his life has finally left. An he'd get a good send off too!

That's a personal choice and will be appealing to many. But for others - they may wish to be shipped home for burial . Actually I quoted the charges wrong .. More accurately 50-year-old could pay (with no health exam) $20 or $30 per $1,000 for a burial policy or $100 to $150 a year for $5,000 in coverage - so 10K coverage would be around $200 to $300 per year. Burial insurance is usually used to pay for immediate expenses related to the funeral, any credit cards debts that may be present when the beneficiary dies or other costs associated with funeral expenses. Also burial insurance accumulates a small amount of cash. But none of this matters if such insurance is not available for coverage while living in Thailand. For U.S. citizens perhaps a policy could be purchased in the USA with no restrictions on place of residence.

[lopburi3]

Another post removed - once again - this is not about the UK or USA.