Australian, 93, on trial


A 93-year-old Australian man appeared in court in Thailand today accused of sexually assaulting four sisters while living in South-East Asia.

THAILAND – April 29,2013; Karl Joseph Kraus had to be carried from a prison bus into a wheelchair by other inmates in order to be wheeled into the dock in Chiang Mai province, in the north of the country.

He is alleged to have attacked the girls, aged between seven and 15, in 2010.

After being arrested and bailed on suspicion of rape, Kraus attempted to flee to Burma, from where he was deported for not having a valid visa.

His lawyers are now trying to get the rape case dropped, arguing that he is too ill to stand trial.

Last month he told the Sydney Morning Telegraph, ‘I’ll be dead’ before proceedings conclude, adding ‘I’ve done nothing wrong.’

Kraus, a German-born Australian citizen, is suffering from an array of serious illnesses such as dementia and cancer, according to his lawyers.

However, while free on bail he was apparently seen driving around Chiang Mai and did not seem to be in poor health.

The former railway worker had been living in Thailand for more than a decade when he first met the girls he was alleged to have abused in 2008.

Full story: http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2013/04/30/australian-93-on-asian-child-sex-charges/

-- Pattaya Daily News 2013-04-30

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Its called doing a 'Skasey'

"However, while free on bail he was apparently seen driving around Chiang Mai and did not seem to be in poor health." ....

Alli can say is, let him go home and die at home

Thailand has more other problems to look at in the back garden

"However, while free on bail he was apparently seen driving around Chiang Mai and did not seem to be in poor health." ....

Exactly!! Let the court decide his guilt or innocence, before you start hang them high posts!

One look at him and his prophesy that he will be dead before the court rules seems hardly prophetic.

The guy will spend the end of his days in hell and let's hope the court give the public it's conclusion

even if the guy does expire, so that it is known if he would have been convicted or not.

If he's capable of abusing children he is capable of standing (or sitting) trial. If he's found guilty based on solid evidence I hope he gets the most torturous end to his life possible, as well as a hard message sent to any other elderly abusers of children who think their age or physical state may get them off the hook for their horrific crimes against children.

He would have been 90 when the alleged charges took place. A 90 year old attacking a 15 year old girl. Doubt it somehow. All she would have had to do was walk slowly away.. Look at him for goodness sake

This does all sound a bit iffy.

Although I doubt he is strong enough to stand trial, I am glad that he is and I hope it is all done quickly without delays. His lawyers should ensure now that no delays are forthcoming from them. The reason I am glad he is standing trial is the public need to see the evidence, both in terms of testimony from his accusers and the hundreds of pornographic photo's that police allege were on his computer. Hopefully the truth will now be revealed one way or the other.

Its called doing a 'Skasey'

Bondy did it as well........presented with dementia during his court proceedings, but snapped out of it. But at 93? Still needs to present at court as the charge is very serious.

If he is this old & sick what is he doing in Asia in the 1st place? Atleast the other inmates are helping him but he is probably going to die in Thai prison unless he is released quick back to his home country.

His housemaid discovered that he mailed some child porno overseas...and there you have digital evidences...

How many average Thai housemaids can manage an average foreign mail-box ?

Let her make a full reconstruction how she discovered his mailings. Interesting topic in this case.

Not really a fair trial if you publish facts of evidences before the court trial...

This is terrible. The guy looks like someone who has just been liberated from a concentration camp.

As for the charges against him, I simply don`t believe it.

The only conclusion I see coming out of this, is that the old man will die of stress before he is sentenced.

Why not just deport him back to Australia and let them deal with the problem? Probably place him in an old people`s home where he belongs.

It`s shocking and distressing to watch.

Alli can say is, let him go home and die at home

Thailand has more other problems to look at in the back garden

Maybe you would like to think for just a second how YOU would feel if this nonce abused your children.....

I am just waiting for a TV expert to remember that he saw this guy jogging on Beach Rd. just before this picture was taken.

I am just waiting for a TV expert to remember that he saw this guy jogging on Beach Rd. just before this picture was taken.

I'm not a TV expert, but there's no Beach Road in Chiang Mai.

Alli can say is, let him go home and die at home

Thailand has more other problems to look at in the back garden

Maybe you would like to think for just a second how YOU would feel if this nonce abused your children.....

Good point. I would ask my 15 year old daughter how this man abused her with her friends in the same room, and being a decent man, I would be able to tell if there were truth in it. Then I would visit the fellow myself and save the courts a lot of money.

On the one hand, you are assuming that a Thai parent thinks like you do. Not so as indicative of the headlines we read daily. It's a no-brainer.

On the other hand, were the father a foreigner, then one could refer back to paragraph one of this post. Problem solved. One will notice that half-halfs are not the victims of these sort of crimes in the Kingdom, if ever. The point being that foreign fathers and mothers might possibly be more involved with their child's welfare.

"alleged"

Alli can say is, let him go home and die at home

Thailand has more other problems to look at in the back garden

Maybe you would like to think for just a second how YOU would feel if this nonce abused your children.....

Good point. I would ask my 15 year old daughter how this man abused her with her friends in the same room, and being a decent man, I would be able to tell if there were truth in it. Then I would visit the fellow myself and save the courts a lot of money.

On the one hand, you are assuming that a Thai parent thinks like you do. Not so as indicative of the headlines we read daily. It's a no-brainer.

On the other hand, were the father a foreigner, then one could refer back to paragraph one of this post. Problem solved. One will notice that half-halfs are not the victims of these sort of crimes in the Kingdom, if ever. The point being that foreign fathers and mothers might possibly be more involved with their child's welfare.

I was only giving my opinion on what I feel he deserves for destroying the lives of each and every child he molested.

Dont worry the Thai boys inside will make sure he is 'looked after' as Thai prisons dont have segregation.

Alli can say is, let him go home and die at home

Thailand has more other problems to look at in the back garden

What!...let him rot in that jail.

I see the liberals are out in force, not here! If he gets found guilty I hope he burns in hell for it, as I have said in previous posts on this topic I really can't see the lazy AR#*d BIB chasing someone all the way to Burma for nothing. Its difficult enough to get them do something on real crimes let alone non events. Although I'm sure there will be some lefties with interesting conspiracy theories to follow this post. No doubt it was all just a ploy by BIB to separate poor old whitey from his old age pension and blah, blah blah.

I am just waiting for a TV expert to remember that he saw this guy jogging on Beach Rd. just before this picture was taken.

'apparently'

I see the liberals are out in force, not here! If he gets found guilty I hope he burns in hell for it, as I have said in previous posts on this topic I really can't see the lazy AR#*d BIB chasing someone all the way to Burma for nothing. Its difficult enough to get them do something on real crimes let alone non events. Although I'm sure there will be some lefties with interesting conspiracy theories to follow this post. No doubt it was all just a ploy by BIB to separate poor old whitey from his old age pension and blah, blah blah.

Your balcony wisdom doesn't tell us that he can also be found guilty even if he's innocent...

I see the liberals are out in force, not here! If he gets found guilty I hope he burns in hell for it, as I have said in previous posts on this topic I really can't see the lazy AR#*d BIB chasing someone all the way to Burma for nothing. Its difficult enough to get them do something on real crimes let alone non events. Although I'm sure there will be some lefties with interesting conspiracy theories to follow this post. No doubt it was all just a ploy by BIB to separate poor old whitey from his old age pension and blah, blah blah.

Your balcony wisdom doesn't tell us that he can also be found guilty even if he's innocent...

and that doesn't happen anywhere else in the world does it? Prisons are full of the innocent, just ask any lag. If you don't have faith in a judicial system how would you like to conduct a trail? maybe a ouija board........

Alli can say is, let him go home and die at home

Thailand has more other problems to look at in the back garden

You wouldn't say that if it were your daughters. Make an example of him to all the other sick paedos over here and take the his life.

Smart Alec and Off topic remarks about WW2 removed

Don't believe everything criminal organizations like Greyman say. It is after all all about money. Being it in donations or in bribes depending on what side you are on.

something not right here, but if he IS truly guily then leave him to the prison rats.......

I've said it before on this forum; wait for due process! It may be worthy of mention that sex crimes against children, committed overseas, are also against Australian law.