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Thailand does have the capacity to be major player in the AEC, after Singapore, Malaysia and Indonesia. But first it needs to avail itself of a government where corruption levels are at least manageable (this is Asia after all) and where appointment to senior positions is based on ability not connections.

Hope springs eternal.

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Perhaps it's the reasons for the coups, rather than the coups themselves which are the problem.

Saving Thailand from itself (the inability of politicians to put Thailand first) seems a more worthy cause than perpetuating corruption

Not all the coups were caused to prevent corruption, as though the armed forces aren't corrupt anyway.

In fact one of the major reasons the Thai army is shopping around so hard for equipment these days is that it's harder and harder for EU and USA firms to throw a bung these days.

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Not a bad article...and this bit hits the proverbial nail on the head clap2.gif

Worse still are the top Cabinet members, especially the two deputy prime ministers Chalerm Yoobamrung and Plodprasop Suraswadi, who have turned Thailand into the No 1 Banana Republic. Their comments and personal nincompoop acts have been the butt of jokes in diplomatic circles at home and abroad.

Another article that is fairly close to the bone for "the Nation".

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Thailand has stagnated since 1997, although you would be hard pressed to see where , except the most important investment, it's people , the people have been left behind , living in substandard conditions , lacking utility services in area's, no buying power, the PTP governments negative two faced policies, it's interpretation of democracy, the continuing friendship with despot regimes , this sends the wrong message to other countries who are active in the region, in other words you ain't got nothing to offerbah.gif

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Perhaps it's the reasons for the coups, rather than the coups themselves which are the problem.

Saving Thailand from itself (the inability of politicians to put Thailand first) seems a more worthy cause than perpetuating corruption

Not all the coups were caused to prevent corruption, as though the armed forces aren't corrupt anyway.

In fact one of the major reasons the Thai army is shopping around so hard for equipment these days is that it's harder and harder for EU and USA firms to throw a bung these days.

Nobody's perfect - I take your point, although your last sentence may be a bit too cynical
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So long as Thailand is politically unstable, corruption at the goverment level is rampant and tollerated, and the national policy decisions are made by a convicted felon in self exile, among other problems, Thailand's international reputation and influence will continue to take a beating. The government that was elected by the people should be acting in the interest of the people, not in the interest of a few, specifically not in the interst of an individual.

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"Worse still are the top Cabinet members, especially the two deputy prime ministers Chalerm Yoobamrung and Plodprasop Suraswadi, who have turned Thailand into the No 1 Banana Republic. Their comments and personal nincompoop acts have been the butt of jokes in diplomatic circles at home and abroad."

I couldn't have put it better myself. Nincompoops. Indeed. Thailand may not be the No 1 Banana Republic as of right now, but it certainly is vying for that illustrious position.

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Thailand has many embassies overseas and presumably they send diplomatic cables back to the Foreign Ministry on matters happening within the country where they are located although Thailand's view of the world is probably rather short sighted compared to other nations.

However knowing what goes on in diplomatic circles will this government be so naive as to think what's happening here isn't been reported around the world and must be making the readers in many Foreign Ministries cringe ?

I suppose we can have a mixture of Thai belief in being " the hub " of everything coupled with the PTP's attitude of " if we say everything is just fine then that's exactly what it is ".

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From Thai visa rules:

Please be informed that ThaiVisa is an apolitical discussion forum,

meaning that we take an unbiased position in regard to political matters

in Thailand. As such, ThaiVisa will not permit itself to become a

sounding platform for members to lobby other members to effect changes

to or suggestions on political issues or Thai government decrees. This

does not mean that members cannot voice a political opinion as ThaiVisa

is first and foremost a discussion forum, but lobbying for any kind of

action is forbidden.

But it sold itself to an Amart owned, Anti PTP newspaper whose biased view of the country is reported constantly on this forum, to the exclusion of others. Very apolitical.

It is not compulsory.

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Thailand has many embassies overseas and presumably they send diplomatic cables back to the Foreign Ministry on matters happening within the country where they are located although Thailand's view of the world is probably rather short sighted compared to other nations.

However knowing what goes on in diplomatic circles will this government be so naive as to think what's happening here isn't been reported around the world and must be making the readers in many Foreign Ministries cringe ?

I suppose we can have a mixture of Thai belief in being " the hub " of everything coupled with the PTP's attitude of " if we say everything is just fine then that's exactly what it is ".

Thailand was the "hub" for Western countries to approach to enter into South East Asia for a long time, as long as the neighbouring countries were a screw up. Given time, whilst not delivering true democracy, those countries at least got themselves back on their feet and started to engage politically and economically with the west. Throw in a rather messy 10 years of government in Thailand, and Thailand's status as the "hub" has diminished to a point now, that for example, Thailand trying to offer Daiwei to the world, and basically everyone thumbing their nose at the idea.

Thailand is not as strategically important as it used to be, but, they keep flogging the "hub" to the world.

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Not a bad article...and this bit hits the proverbial nail on the head clap2.gif

Worse still are the top Cabinet members, especially the two deputy prime ministers Chalerm Yoobamrung and Plodprasop Suraswadi, who have turned Thailand into the No 1 Banana Republic. Their comments and personal nincompoop acts have been the butt of jokes in diplomatic circles at home and abroad.

brave nation article and cuts right to the bone - love to hear the comments from the two clowns above as they read it - that would be funny

and yingluc not being invited to the US because there would be nothing to discuss except nails shoes and hair

This article just sums it all up and also is an escalation by critics and press who are starting to see the writing on the wall and feel more confident about saying so in public

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Not a bad article...and this bit hits the proverbial nail on the head clap2.gif

Worse still are the top Cabinet members, especially the two deputy prime ministers Chalerm Yoobamrung and Plodprasop Suraswadi, who have turned Thailand into the No 1 Banana Republic. Their comments and personal nincompoop acts have been the butt of jokes in diplomatic circles at home and abroad.

brave nation article and cuts right to the bone - love to hear the comments from the two clowns above as they read it - that would be funny

and yingluc not being invited to the US because there would be nothing to discuss except nails shoes and hair

This article just sums it all up and also is an escalation by critics and press who are starting to see the writing on the wall and feel more confident about saying so in public

Amazing. And all it apparently took was some gnashing about the value of the baht, and a question from Moody's to bring this all to a head. Where did it all go wrong? Or was it ever right?

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...along with empty comments that appealed to the apathetic Thai public.

Yes, couldn't agree more...an apathetic Thai public easy swayed by empty political comments is a big factor in Thailand remaining in its own little universe.

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Not a bad article...and this bit hits the proverbial nail on the head clap2.gif

Worse still are the top Cabinet members, especially the two deputy prime ministers Chalerm Yoobamrung and Plodprasop Suraswadi, who have turned Thailand into the No 1 Banana Republic. Their comments and personal nincompoop acts have been the butt of jokes in diplomatic circles at home and abroad.

Those two clowns in particular are a hard act to follow. Howvere, due to their narcissism, and fondness for a drop too much of Ear medicine, I doubt that have any idea how they are viewed. As for Yingluck, well she makes Sooty look intelligent.

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It seems that a tycoon is missing.

Anti Thaksin and vocal opponent of YS.

Upon this bad news an excellent editorial by The Nation is added to my fear that the worse is yet to come.

my moody rating for Thailand is pessimistic.

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Thailand has many embassies overseas and presumably they send diplomatic cables back to the Foreign Ministry on matters happening within the country where they are located although Thailand's view of the world is probably rather short sighted compared to other nations.

However knowing what goes on in diplomatic circles will this government be so naive as to think what's happening here isn't been reported around the world and must be making the readers in many Foreign Ministries cringe ?

I suppose we can have a mixture of Thai belief in being " the hub " of everything coupled with the PTP's attitude of " if we say everything is just fine then that's exactly what it is ".

Some of the stuff that came out of Wikileaks showed embassies etc reporting home use less than flattering and definitely not diplomatic language about their host government. Would love to see some of the stuff being said about the Thai government and various personalities

Maybe the word coup does not get used.but I'm sure there must be great fear of major civil disorder brewing.

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Especially worrying (if it is true) is this quote from the article:

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Thousands of community radio channels, especially the unregistered ones, continue to broadcast inciting and hateful speech and information against political opponents, contrary to the state objectives of community building and integration. //

Exactly. Talking out of both sides of one's mouth at the same time is a Thaksin speciality.
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I am waiting for the usual crowd to sashay in with their predictable complaints against The Nation and ThaiVisa bias. and of course our very special friend Lord Snooty On the One Hand and On the Other Hand.

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