500 Baht fine for Fake Watch Vendor who stabbed a German on Pattaya Beach

[atyclb]

500 baht fine for a violent, armed attack on a 70 year old for an accidental street bump?.

Utter idiocy!

So much for the supposed ingrained Thai respect for elders...

I see this as a disturbing trend; a Thai has a bad day and takes it out on a tourist. Sort of like a badge of honor as in Assult a tourist, pay a small cash fine, and walk away with your head high. This fake watch seller is showing the world that 500 baht means nothing to him, well worth the face he gained among his fellow thugs, not to mention the cop smiling approvingly.

Scary man...

Maybe the Thai respect for elders doesn't include 70 year old foreigners with 20 year old Thai girlfriends??

Wonder why?

Why are you always making snide remarks, regarding older men having younger wives,g/f. Did you loose a g/f to an older guy and now you cannot get over it?. Or could it be that you are either jealouse of the older men or more likely impotent?.

"Maybe the Thai respect for elders doesn't include 70 year old foreigners with 20 year old Thai girlfriends"

Anyone living and especially working in Pattaya near ws and br should not even notice 70 yo farangs with 20 yo girls anymore, that is like "wallpaper". Seems some of the low level locals (and theres lots of them) don't mind criminality. A local lawyer friend told me the penalties for assault are way too light and those for financial crimes are often way too severe. International social media will be much more damning than the fine.

[JulesMad]

How about 3 to 5 for assualt with a deadly weapon and malicous wounding!

....No, no,no, that is if the tourist had stabbed the Thai fake vendor....

Edited November 1, 2013 by JulesMad

[alphaflight]

News like this needs to be posted and shown worldwide so that this government is pressured to do more against people who commit these crimes. The PM goes on and on about the governments dedication to the safety of tourists, and cutting down on corruption; when she's traveling and talking in front of other leaders. But it's all just smoke and mirrors to drag more people over and drain their wallets..

[chrisrazz]

I wonder whether the tourist in question was present at the hearing? It is no wild suggestion that he was not available and that the police will have taken a significant sum to alter his statement.

More of these incidents will certainly deter visitors, thus diminishing the potential take from the administration of illegal activity. The police here love crime, car accidents etc. The reason why they do absolutely nothing about crime prevention or road safety is because it is not in their interest.

[cup-O-coffee]

We are tolerated. We are not wanted, but nevertheless we are tolerated. It is a bad marriage between Thais and foreigners only bonded together by their lust for money. The incidental anecdotes of Thai "niceties" in between are irrelevant to my view on this.

This incident is simply another "slip up" and a "letting off of some steam" of the general build up of ignorant, racist hatred towards foreigners, who are perceived to be the "haves" or the "clowns with the money". The poor, misunderstood Thais make themselves out to be the "have-nots" and this nationalistic indoctrination is groomed and nurtured by the very ones who pull the strings and run the show.

Usually the ones who are the cause of this kind of hatred (government, law enforcement, elite), are clever enough to get the cattle's ignorant and racist hatred funnelled in another direction. That way, when a crime against a foreigner is committed, the truly guilty ones can appear as angels of light and let the ignorant and racist (albeit mislead illiterate) Thai off the hook.

The man who stabbed the foreigner is too stupid to realize that the reason he is selling knock-off watches and looks like a poor, degenerate scumbag is because his own police, government and elite keep him oppressed so that he has to resort to a life of crime, and cannot afford a bar of soap, or some newer clothes, a comb and deoderant - moreover the fact that he has whiskey stains on his shirt and crumpled lottery tickets sticking out of his soiled pockets (inferred but more than likely not far off the point).

The anger he has inside should not be directed at the foriegner, but this is simply one of the many regrettable and deplorable states with which Thailand chooses to mark its destiny. The foreigner is an easy out. Thais are fond of finding the easiest way out, where there is the least amount of resistance out of their very real problems, and the foriegner is a marked target for this.

Edited November 1, 2013 by cup-O-coffee

[DGIE]

The policeman is smiling.

The cost of fine is like just like the cost of fake watch. It's good the vendor didn't sell genuine Rolex. It would have cost him higher fine.

[bander]

500 baht fine for a violent, armed attack on a 70 year old for an accidental street bump?.

Utter idiocy!

What happened to the rest of the watch vendor gang?

Some days ago 6-8 of them attack a Russian tourist cos he didn't want to buy a watch

19 year old thai armed with a knife against a 70 year old German, COWARD is the only explanation, at least he didn't lose his face in the battle.

Too bad the German wasn't able to beat the sh1t out of him

[Lancelot]

Fortunately, l am now in Cambodia. The true country of smiles. Unlike the country which claims that slogan in their advertising. The latter is simply a joke and rapidly going into decline

According to smartraveler.gov.au you made the correct choice.

Their advice for Cambodia: Exercise normal safety precautions.

Their advice for Thailand: Exercise a high degree of caution.

Caution indeed!

[drdoom6996]

500 Baht, that will stop it from happening again. There are so many street vendors selling anything and everything outside Royal Garden Plaza the only way not to bump into one of them is to walk in the street.

[krystian]

I think the fine depends on the natinality of the victim... that is just for attempted murder and if they kill the victim, penalties would ay also depending on the nationality

[Lancelot]

The man who stabbed the foreigner is too stupid to realize that the reason he is selling knock-off watches and looks like a poor, degenerate scumbag is because his own police, government and elite keep him oppressed so that he has to resort to a life of crime, and cannot afford a bar of soap, or some newer clothes, a comb and deoderant

I understand your point but I don't ever see the poor Thais waking up to the obvious. In the mean time, they are easily led and manipulated to serve the interests of the powerful.

[PhilipCook]

avoid eye contact with/purchasing from street vendors of anything and they will disappear

[Shagz]

so basically this is on the same level as not wearing a helmet when riding a motorcycle which is also a 500 baht fine.

[SSSlongtime]

this type of news should get international press ,maybe cut down on crime to tourists and cut down on tourists

[indyuk]

They may as well given the 'Fake Watch Vender' who I note was not arrested for his crime of selling fake products, a medal for courage when faced the foreign enemy.

[Samaaw]

Crime is on the increase and violent crime at that !!

[kannot]

500 baht fine for a violent, armed attack on a 70 year old for an accidental street bump?.

Utter idiocy!

So much for the supposed ingrained Thai respect for elders...

I see this as a disturbing trend; a Thai has a bad day and takes it out on a tourist. Sort of like a badge of honor as in Assult a tourist, pay a small cash fine, and walk away with your head high. This fake watch seller is showing the world that 500 baht means nothing to him, well worth the face he gained among his fellow thugs, not to mention the cop smiling approvingly.

Scary man...

Maybe the Thai respect for elders doesn't include 70 year old foreigners with 20 year old Thai girlfriends??

Wonder why?

There's no evidence that the man has a twenty year old girlfriend, unless you want to sterotype of course!

And even if he did its not a reason to stab him..............does this mean however we can stab a street watch vendor for 1000 baht or maybe 2000 with the double pricing here??? I think one brave member should try this and see what happens!!

[GBK]

"I think one brave member should try this and see what happens!!"

Off you go then...

[fareastguy]

And they wonder why crime keeps rising. Penalties like this are hardly a deterrent.

500 baht fine for armed assault with "intent" to cause injury.. hardly going to stop street crime in it's tracks & send a message to scammers that tourists are best left alone!

But then again.. an amnesty bill for all crimes committed over the last 10 years for politicians (and those who have fled) is hardly going to send the right message to the whole of Thailand!!!

The judicial system (if you can call it that) or even the Thai system as a whole is beyond belief.

[wwex]

did they test him for yaabaa? I was attacked in pattaya tai for no reason last night, and I had a difficult time calming down a couple of boys on yaabaa at the beach who thought I had an opinion about them, the nice thing is that another thai has tendered my wounds, sadly the place is in a state of anarchy and if most Thais werent so good hearted it would be a lot worse.

and i agree with the comments, the fine is a joke, go punch a farang for 500b, I was attacked right in front of some police in walking street a few years back and they told me the guy was mafia and they couldnt touch him.....<deleted>?

Edited November 1, 2013 by wwex

[I knew this would happen]

Hope it was the nasty old German that lives in our Complex. Filthy mouth, always

drinking and putting down the Thais and Russians. If it was this guy, I'll pay the

500B fine for the Thai guy.

This whole discussion is about a rotten morals and shameless crimes yet you support it....how can you approve that someone gets stabbed? Yes some old farts is annoying, so stab him? WTH?

[Popscene]

The law in the UK is if you carry a knife it's 5 years in the monkey house.

You will read in the few week the same man has killed some foreigner as he thinks he can get away with it.

[Brasilouro]

I haven't got time for these fake watch sellers !!!

[tonneke breda]

The German is to blame!!!! 70 year old people should not roam the streets at night, and especially not go to walking street!!!

The German should be fined, not the sweet Thai…..

[yingyo]

500 baht fine for a violent, armed attack on a 70 year old for an accidental street bump?.

Utter idiocy!

Welcome to Thailand where the crime is against one of you farang.

Wonder if the German would have been fined 500b if he stabbed a Thai.

Never forget what this society thinks of you.

[yingyo]

I haven't got time for these fake watch sellers !!!

What happened to the Thai lad who shot up some beach on one of the islands and killed a young Brit?

About 8-12 months ago.

[I knew this would happen]

500 baht fine for a violent, armed attack on a 70 year old for an accidental street bump?.

Utter idiocy!

Welcome to Thailand where the crime is against one of you farang.

Wonder if the German would have been fined 500b if he stabbed a Thai.

Never forget what this society thinks of you.

I hope that Karma will do it´s job on Thailand one day. Whenever i read such a topic i want to bite my in desk. Yes, there are crime against foreigners in our home countries, yes there is some white trash wandering around in Thailand. But to beat, stab, rob and murder them as a daily basis while singing "khon thai ben khon dee" seems unique to this rotten place......

[goatfarmer]

It is almost always a 500 baht fine when a thai assaults a foreigner. The severity of the assault does not seem to matter. This also explains why some thais now seem to assault tourists just for fun, they know there is no risk to them, even if they get caught.

That's true. However, there is an alternative. The miscreant can be sent to court if the victim insists and has a hospital report.

I was mildly assaulted some time ago and reported the incident to the police. The Lt Col in charge insisted that I go to Banglamung Hospital and get a medical report so that the case could be sent to court. I was tired and just wanted to go home. The Lt Col urged me to get the report and asked me to wait while he prepared a form to present to the hospital. Cost of the report was 200 baht. All in all, a long drawn out process but it sends a message to the assailant that he can't pounce on people and get away with it for 500 baht. Of course that only works with a resident who is prepared to see the process through.

If more people were aware of this alternative and prepared to pursue it we might see some impact on the lawlessness in this town.

[I knew this would happen]

Maybe i´ll get a shirt, lowers the risk to get stabbed by 50% (i hope) When i admit what i am then they might be more merciful.....

Edited November 1, 2013 by I knew this would happen

[monkeycountry]

The law in the UK is if you carry a knife it's 5 years in the monkey house.

You will read in the few week the same man has killed some foreigner as he thinks he can get away with it.

It is not something "he thinks he can get away with". numerous news stories over the years has proven that "he can get away with it".