Thailand awaits crunch court ruling on election

[northernjohn]

And once more history gets rewritten, or is that that we have members who seem to live in a parallel universe with an alternate history, or a history as would have liked to have seen it' ?

This is why I think it will be good for Thailand to have the murder trial of Suthep and see the evidence in full, including all the video footage that was banned.

But you are not interested in who started it and who financed it. Or who said no when the red shirts had come to an agreement with the government. In fact twice he over ruled them.

You just want to get the one who stopped him. A noble aim. Right up there with Hitler's.

[northernjohn]

And once more history gets rewritten, or is that that we have members who seem to live in a parallel universe with an alternate history, or a history as would have liked to have seen it' ?

This is why I think it will be good for Thailand to have the murder trial of Suthep and see the evidence in full, including all the video footage that was banned.

What "footage"?

Are you obsessed with nine inch Nicky or do you have something to add to the debate?

You do, of course, realise that the last thing that Thaksin wants is a televised trial and the second last thing he wants is a trial?

And to add to that, those who are not supporters of the red shirts would love to see the trial on TV. I might invite a few over to watch it.

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I will bring the pop corn. Not being a drinking man I would still be willing to bring some over for those who do.

[Thait Spot]

So, what footage?

I have heard this from you only

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Probably your best starting place is youtube and the bbc documentary on this. I'd like to link to one of the copies, but it mentions in the intro someone who should not be discussed in such contexts. After that go ahead and search for yourself, there's lot of footage, it was 2010, camera-phones where everywhere!

Secret footage on YouTube?

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[BlueNoseCodger]

Well what you say is true as matters stand now. If Suthep gets his way I believe that the council will be composed of more people with out personal political goals. People from Industry, Labor, Academia, the farming communities and yes a mixture of politicians.

I really don't know who would pick the chair or how they would go about selecting the committee. This would be a very hard thing to accomplish. I can think of one person to appoint the chair but I am not sure if the constitution would allow him to do so. I for obvious reasons can not name him here.

It would be an incredible lot of work but the results would be worth it as they would be permanent. As it sits now we are on a long slide down hill. Time to bite the bullet go through what we have to and get the country turned around.

I defiantly have to admire Suthep for sticking to his guns in this but I would defiantly be against him being a part of the council. He is not open minded enough. The council would require people with an open mind not personal agendas.

Yes I don't know who they are but I am sure there are some in the political ranks.

I think it be made up of people like the man from Chumporn myself, the guy in the back with the big gun seen here in the video trying to drag a DSI man out of the elevator. You think they're a bunch of nice men, I don't!

[Thait Spot]

And once more history gets rewritten, or is that that we have members who seem to live in a parallel universe with an alternate history, or a history as would have liked to have seen it' ?

This is why I think it will be good for Thailand to have the murder trial of Suthep and see the evidence in full, including all the video footage that was banned.

What "footage"?

Are you obsessed with nine inch Nicky or do you have something to add to the debate?

You do, of course, realise that the last thing that Thaksin wants is a televised trial and the second last thing he wants is a trial?

And to add to that, those who are not supporters of the red shirts would love to see the trial on TV. I might invite a few over to watch it.

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I will bring the pop corn. Not being a drinking man I would still be willing to bring some over for those who do.

Splendid.

I'll prepare a large pot of burgundy beef and some jacket potatoes

Any other takers?

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[Mosha]

And once more history gets rewritten, or is that that we have members who seem to live in a parallel universe with an alternate history, or a history as would have liked to have seen it' ?

This is why I think it will be good for Thailand to have the murder trial of Suthep and see the evidence in full, including all the video footage that was banned.

After the 2700 + have had their justice I hope.

[Dogmatix]

"He expressed concerns, however, that the postponement will severely impact Pheu Thai candidates who have already been campaigning for the race."

I am nearly in tears.

[northernjohn]

Big deal, Abhisit offered an election in 3 months, Thaksin and the reds wouldn't talk, moved from demands to arson.

No, reds accepted his elections offer, he then demanded they hand their id cards to the army as they left the protest site. They feared the army who had just been shooting at them would kill them in their homes, and broke out of the camp instead.

Thailand was under a censorship law, so the official version was that 'black shirt terrorists of Thaksin were killing the protestors to make the Dem government look bad'. An Udonthani woman was prosecuted for distributing a DVD showing the video footage contradicting this lie.

As expected Abhisit was lying about the elections too.

I must be mistaken in thinking many of the ID cards you refer to were never given back by the Red Leaders in the first place?

You are not mistaken.

But you are dealing with some one who apparently has no knowledge of facts. Just makes them up as they go along.

Not only would they not give the cards back but I heard a rumor that they would not pay them for the last two weeks. Not sure of that one would not surprise me looking at the caliber of men they were working for.

If the true story was ever revealed to the world Dubai would be asking Thaksin to move on. He does have the citizenship in another country that he bought.

[Scamper]

This is a very big day as the Constitution Court will rule on the EC's suggestion to delay the election. It seems likely that the Constitution Court will rule in its favour, as it recently affirmed the EC's authority through another ruling. Also, the election will not produce a quorum, even if all constituencies produce MPs without infractions. As eight provinces in the country will be left out - a total of 28 constituencies without candidates - parliament is already numerically outside the limit. But there is the reality on the ground - unprecedented for an election - where the vote will likely be a raucous affair in the capital and the South. There is the presence of the emergency decree - never before implemented during an election - by a caretaker administration that does not have that power, which is also being challenged in the courts. Speaking of which, there are a number of other cases before the courts like the rice scheme that could very well result in the dissolution of the administration in the coming weeks. A ruling to delay the election, on the other hand, would change the tension on the ground considerably. It wouldn't mean the administration would survive in the long term, but it would allow the process to proceed calmly, as the courts consider these cases. Chalerm would be disappointed, of course. He always wanted to be a news anchor.

[Old Man River]

It is there in every media report in every paper in every country bar 2 or 3 in Thailand.

that is, the Army traditionally side with the Anti Thaksin movement. There's the problem.

Yingluk has even offered another election in one years time. Guess who is not talking? Too busy screaming the Peoples Council policies out loud from the stage. Making up policy on the hoof and promising to pay farmers if they support him.... after he blocked their payments.

So this is buying votes writ large and presumably once the Junta is installed in his dream coup, all his rants from the stage will have to be honored. Very democratic I don't think. Sound more like a dictator?

What a circus is the thai elite and their cronies. No wonder the Govermnet is digging in on this. They have to be got rid of. EC, CC, Army acting as a private business and mafia enforcer.

Stick with it Yingluck most of the world are behind you and the ones that are not with you, really don't deserve mention after this latest outrage.

Pipkins, Jonathan Head was quoted today as saying Caretaker Dep. PM Niwatthramung told the BBC that the PM can't resign or she will be prosecuted.

Why would a current senior member of the Caretaker government say this? I don't understand.

Do you?

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[Dogmatix]

"It is a product of a coup in 2006 and acts mainly as a tribunal not a court of justice per se," he said, noting that the government had been "badly crippled" by its rulings.

What nonsense. The Constitutional Court was in fact a product of the 1997 Constitution. The Thaksinistas always choose to overlook this inconvenient fact because their Big Boss liked to pretend he wanted to revert to the 1997 Constitution which also beefed up and expanded the independent agencies that he would love to scrap or curtail. His plan for the Constitutional Court is to close it down and have constitutional cases referred to the Supreme Court with limited or nil access to individual complainants.

[Nowhereman60]

OK the SET is closed for the weekend now the court will release it's findings.

[gabruce]

Wow you are the first American that I have heard that supports a party that wants to only allow only the educated the right to vote so they may have a chance to get elected. Is that because Obama got elected twice?

Some times we have to sit back and take an honest look at what is going on and this is one of them. It will not stop Democracy it will just give Thailand time to take a look at it and what the type of government they have is doing to the country. Then an election will be held and people will be much more aware of what the governments function are.

There are and will be those who refuse to change or even look at what is happening but there will be far fewer of them. I of course am presuming the council will be transparent in it's dealings and all sessions open to the public. The only reason I back the one side is because I am more concerned about Thailand than I am a family holding on to power just for the sake of it and the money they can bleed out of it.

Well I am an American and I agree with you on that point. But in two and a half years I have not seen that happening here. That is one of the reasons I back Suthep in his bid to create a council to reform the government and put in some checks and balances. To take steps towards eliminating corruption and election fraud. Then hold an election. It would be one that would not be as attractive to the in it for the money that they can take through corruption. It would make room for more honest candidates. Corruption and fraud can not be wiped out but they can certainly be cut way back.

Is that actually their platform? It's news to me. What is their definition of educated? I'm guessing that it is their platform that it's related to which grade they have graduated rather than a G.P.A. Or are you making this up?

[Dogmatix]

It is there in every media report in every paper in every country bar 2 or 3 in Thailand.

that is, the Army traditionally side with the Anti Thaksin movement. There's the problem.

Yingluk has even offered another election in one years time. Guess who is not talking? Too busy screaming the Peoples Council policies out loud from the stage. Making up policy on the hoof and promising to pay farmers if they support him.... after he blocked their payments.

So this is buying votes writ large and presumably once the Junta is installed in his dream coup, all his rants from the stage will have to be honored. Very democratic I don't think. Sound more like a dictator?

What a circus is the thai elite and their cronies. No wonder the Govermnet is digging in on this. They have to be got rid of. EC, CC, Army acting as a private business and mafia enforcer.

Stick with it Yingluck most of the world are behind you and the ones that are not with you, really don't deserve mention after this latest outrage.

Pipkins, Jonathan Head was quoted today as saying Caretaker Dep. PM Niwatthramung told the BBC that the PM can't resign or she will be prosecuted.

Why would a current senior member of the Caretaker government say this? I don't understand.

Do you?

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This is obviously also nonsense but that doesn't mean Red Jono wouldn't pick it up and run with it. The constitution states that the former government shall continue in a caretaker role after a dissolution of parliament until a new parliament can be convened and a new government formed. But it doesn't say that individual ministers may not resign during that that period. Thaksin has allegedly claimed that Poo could be prosecuted under Section 157 of the Criminal Code for malfeasance, if she resigned. This is clearly not possible. Everyone has the right to say they are unable to continue with their job due to physical, mental illness, stress etc. So if she really went stark raving bonkers or became totally incapacitated in an accident or something, would she be forced to stay on anyway or face criminal prosecution. Ridiculous.

[KimoMax]

THB Currency just weakened sharply and abruptly.

Think some financial playrs already know the verdict.

[Old Man River]

It is there in every media report in every paper in every country bar 2 or 3 in Thailand.

that is, the Army traditionally side with the Anti Thaksin movement. There's the problem.

Yingluk has even offered another election in one years time. Guess who is not talking? Too busy screaming the Peoples Council policies out loud from the stage. Making up policy on the hoof and promising to pay farmers if they support him.... after he blocked their payments.

So this is buying votes writ large and presumably once the Junta is installed in his dream coup, all his rants from the stage will have to be honored. Very democratic I don't think. Sound more like a dictator?

What a circus is the thai elite and their cronies. No wonder the Govermnet is digging in on this. They have to be got rid of. EC, CC, Army acting as a private business and mafia enforcer.

Stick with it Yingluck most of the world are behind you and the ones that are not with you, really don't deserve mention after this latest outrage.

Pipkins, Jonathan Head was quoted today as saying Caretaker Dep. PM Niwatthramung told the BBC that the PM can't resign or she will be prosecuted.

Why would a current senior member of the Caretaker government say this? I don't understand.

Do you?

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This is obviously also nonsense but that doesn't mean Red Jono wouldn't pick it up and run with it. The constitution states that the former government shall continue in a caretaker role after a dissolution of parliament until a new parliament can be convened and a new government formed. But it doesn't say that individual ministers may not resign during that that period. Thaksin has allegedly claimed that Poo could be prosecuted under Section 157 of the Criminal Code for malfeasance, if she resigned. This is clearly not possible. Everyone has the right to say they are unable to continue with their job due to physical, mental illness, stress etc. So if she really went stark raving bonkers or became totally incapacitated in an accident or something, would she be forced to stay on anyway or face criminal prosecution. Ridiculous.

Thanks. I had just come to the same conclusion and went back here to say so, but you beat me to it.

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[gabruce]

If the CC verdict is that the EC has constitutional authority will the government allow the media to publish the verdict? Or maybe more simply, if they don't like the court verdict will we ever hear about it? Or maybe the court is just slow.

[Nowhereman60]

Time to close this topic the ruling has been made, well maybe yes and then again maybe no.

[kikoman]

The outrage occurred when she stepped in as inept puppet for her brother, after they bought up votes on the backs of the uneducated. Everything they touched failed and is an outrage. The worst outrage is foreign posters who are thicker than a plank not to see this little oligarchy of ineptitude crumbling as a result of ill deeds; with even farmers taking a stand.

Pipkins, great post, you are right on and correct,

Gemini81

Who's outrage The Rich Elite,, they are the ones yelling fot Thaskin head.

I live among those you refer to uneducated, you know nothing about what is going on in Thailand today,

Also I for one as a Farang's posters on TV, dispute your Fascist rant, Could you kindly point out what programs they touched that failed, as you state "Everything they touched failed" and it is an outrage"

What are these outrages failures you rant about,

* The political machine that has won every election, since 2001.

* Providing affordable and quality health care for its citizens,-Very popular!

* Raising the minimum wage by 25%.- very popular

* Village managed Micro credit development funds.

* government sponsored One-tambon, One product program.

* paid rice farmers a decent price for their rice..

Why are you as a Farang, that has no right to vote in Thailand so outraged!

Could it be the poll that is a thread on this forum that stated 79.6 % of Thai's polled stated they would vote on February 2, 2014, showing that Suthep does not represent the vast majorities of Thai's that will not boycott the election,

I believe in a democratic election, where everyone vote is equal, if Suthep was the winner, I would certainly be disappointed, but I would live with the results until the next election,

Sonny, that is how a Democracy works, The Majority Rules!

Cheers

Edited January 24, 2014 by kikoman

[BlueNoseCodger]

I will bring the pop corn. Not being a drinking man I would still be willing to bring some over for those who do.

Pull up the internet and go search for it, [bbc documentary 2010 thailand live fire], and similar searches should pull up some videos.

Submit, And of course the whole Blindly shooting from Thai Army #1, Blindly shooting from Thai Army #2 etc.

Edited January 24, 2014 by BlueNoseCodger

[kikoman]

They are so terrified of elections!

If the Constitutional Court gives the EC power to delay elections, it's really giving them the power to cancel elections. Once we're outside the Constitution 60 day limit, we're outside any legal boundary.

So when EC doesn't hold election for a year, two years, three years, what then?

It gives the council Suthep wants to set up to reform the government time to do a good job. One that will represent all of the people.

I have no problem with that it is better than what we have now.

Think about it for a minute take the rice growers for example. Once the largest rice exporting country in the world in two short years down to third and in two and a half year's it has the rice growers screaming for the money they were told they would get for their rice. That never happened before. Well done PTP some thing to be proud of.

Medical care that was free now cost 30 baht. Not a lot you say and you are right. But it cost 50 baht to process the paper work 1,000,000 patients net loss on each 20 baht . That is 20,000,000 baht that could be going into the hands on medical care. instead it is just floating around in burrocracy and corruption Now we have the medical profession up in arms.

These type of things that will be worked out and a government reformed that will not allow them to happen.

Suthep didn't do any reforms when he was in power, he can't even specify any reforms now or who or when or anything else.

The rice pledging scheme followed in the wake of Philippines and Indian rice shortages, it is a rice reserve, and a farm subsidy. It needs tweaking but then so did the 30 baht scheme when it was introduced.

The 30 baht scheme is two parts, the person pays 30 baht, the government pays about 1800 baht for that visit. It's socialized medicine. When the coup took over in 2006, they tweaked it by dropping the 30 baht part to zero and increasing the government part from about 1500 to 1800.

I think that was a mistake to drop the 30 baht, it was to deter a poor person using the scheme unless they are actually ill, so it was re-introduced. It's not a net loss of 20 million baht, it's a substantial amount of money into hospitals.

That is not 1800 baht a visit. It is per year. per person on the tabian bahn in the hospital's district.

You are right, the 1800 baht, is what the government funds for each person per year.

Thaskin provided the program, when the Democact where placed into power, they dropped the 30 baht charge, the health care program was aready in place, Abhist also stated if he won the election he would raise the minimum wage by 25% the Elite complained and he dropped the idea, and when PTP came into office they raised the minimum wage by 25%.

Cheers!

Edited January 24, 2014 by kikoman

[rubl]

I will bring the pop corn. Not being a drinking man I would still be willing to bring some over for those who do.

Pull up the internet and go search for it, [bbc documentary 2010 thailand live fire], and similar searches should pull up some videos.

'should' ?

Anyway, we no longer await the court ruling.

BTW after having seen videos of real, fake, fixed MiB, soldiers and other 'nice' people I only remember what the renegade general Seh Daeng said about April 10th, 2010: "no one saw me".

[mrtoad]

@pipkins Whatever you're taking it has disastrous effects on your brain

He is certainly living in the land of the deluded

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[BlueNoseCodger]

I will bring the pop corn. Not being a drinking man I would still be willing to bring some over for those who do.

Pull up the internet and go search for it, [bbc documentary 2010 thailand live fire], and similar searches should pull up some videos.

And of course the whole

etc.

'should' ?

Anyway, we no longer await the court ruling.

BTW after having seen videos of real, fake, fixed MiB, soldiers and other 'nice' people I only remember what the renegade general Seh Daeng said about April 10th, 2010: "no one saw me".

Documentaries should be in those search results. The other videos I linked to. The CNN one gives you an idea of how Abhisit & Suthep are viewed abroad, why their soft coup attempt is so badly viewed abroad and went so badly wrong.

The Court Ruling is good I think. It means the EC can't delay the election on its own, and so it can proceed. Perhaps they think if they delay, Abhisit can go back to the democratic way, but I don't think that will happen, or that it would be a good thing for Thailand if it did. (Heaven forbid they won, all those 2010 documentaries and footage would be re-shown around the world as background info to the new leaders.... yikes! Thailand would be a laughing stock)

So the best thing now, is for the elections to go ahead, and democracy to takes its usual awkward steps forward.

[edit, you guys focussed so much on Suthep, but leaders like Korn would have been a far better choice with broader appeal and no baggage that would damaged Thailand abroad. It's a pity.]

Edited January 24, 2014 by BlueNoseCodger

[Thai at Heart]

It is there in every media report in every paper in every country bar 2 or 3 in Thailand.

that is, the Army traditionally side with the Anti Thaksin movement. There's the problem.

Yingluk has even offered another election in one years time. Guess who is not talking? Too busy screaming the Peoples Council policies out loud from the stage. Making up policy on the hoof and promising to pay farmers if they support him.... after he blocked their payments.

So this is buying votes writ large and presumably once the Junta is installed in his dream coup, all his rants from the stage will have to be honored. Very democratic I don't think. Sound more like a dictator?

What a circus is the thai elite and their cronies. No wonder the Govermnet is digging in on this. They have to be got rid of. EC, CC, Army acting as a private business and mafia enforcer.

Stick with it Yingluck most of the world are behind you and the ones that are not with you, really don't deserve mention after this latest outrage.

Suthep is sure to be the winner in this go round if all Yingluck's supporters are as ill informed as you are.

Even the rice farmers are turning against her. She no longer has the backing of all the red shirts. The ones she does have are resorting to their usual form of support. Genades and drive by shootings. She is discovering as Abhist did that calling an emergency decree is not going to be enforced by the police. Fortunately for her it is unarmed peaceful protestors not the armed and fortified ones Abhist had to face.

This one has a leader right up on the stage and leading parades she can just arrest. Not like the one Abhist had to face with a leader out of country calling in long distance to urge his minions on.

To top it all off. With out opposition she still would not have a clue as to how to run the country. She has two and a half years of experience at flying around the world on shopping trips at the governments expense. the occasional speeches she gave were jokes. But she is good at Photo Op's got to give credit where credit is due.

They might be wavering, but they won't necessarily vote for the dems or support Suthep.

I think they will likely still vote for yingluck

[tingtongteesood]

It is there in every media report in every paper in every country bar 2 or 3 in Thailand.

that is, the Army traditionally side with the Anti Thaksin movement. There's the problem.

Yingluk has even offered another election in one years time. Guess who is not talking? Too busy screaming the Peoples Council policies out loud from the stage. Making up policy on the hoof and promising to pay farmers if they support him.... after he blocked their payments.

So this is buying votes writ large and presumably once the Junta is installed in his dream coup, all his rants from the stage will have to be honored. Very democratic I don't think. Sound more like a dictator?

What a circus is the thai elite and their cronies. No wonder the Govermnet is digging in on this. They have to be got rid of. EC, CC, Army acting as a private business and mafia enforcer.

Stick with it Yingluck most of the world are behind you and the ones that are not with you, really don't deserve mention after this latest outrage.

''Wah wah Taksin didn't get his way so everybody must be bad, why do they hate him ?! It's all aa conspiracy I tell you ! wah wah''

[northernjohn]

Wow you are the first American that I have heard that supports a party that wants to only allow only the educated the right to vote so they may have a chance to get elected. Is that because Obama got elected twice?

Some times we have to sit back and take an honest look at what is going on and this is one of them. It will not stop Democracy it will just give Thailand time to take a look at it and what the type of government they have is doing to the country. Then an election will be held and people will be much more aware of what the governments function are.

There are and will be those who refuse to change or even look at what is happening but there will be far fewer of them. I of course am presuming the council will be transparent in it's dealings and all sessions open to the public. The only reason I back the one side is because I am more concerned about Thailand than I am a family holding on to power just for the sake of it and the money they can bleed out of it.

Well I am an American and I agree with you on that point. But in two and a half years I have not seen that happening here. That is one of the reasons I back Suthep in his bid to create a council to reform the government and put in some checks and balances. To take steps towards eliminating corruption and election fraud. Then hold an election. It would be one that would not be as attractive to the in it for the money that they can take through corruption. It would make room for more honest candidates. Corruption and fraud can not be wiped out but they can certainly be cut way back.

Is that actually their platform? It's news to me. What is their definition of educated? I'm guessing that it is their platform that it's related to which grade they have graduated rather than a G.P.A. Or are you making this up?

It is news to me also. I wrote the original post and had this part added to it by

bkkfaranguy, on 24 Jan 2014 - 12:33, said:

Wow you are the first American that I have heard that supports a party that wants to only allow only the educated the right to vote so they may have a chance to get elected. Is that because Obama got elected twice?

Here is a copy of the original post I made.

Thailand is in dire need of a European style Socialdemocratic Party. And to the Americans here, it doesn't equal communism!

Well I am an American and I agree with you on that point. But in two and a half years I have not seen that happening here. That is one of the reasons I back Suthep in his bid to create a council to reform the government and put in some checks and balances. To take steps towards eliminating corruption and election fraud. Then hold an election. It would be one that would not be as attractive to the in it for the money that they can take through corruption. It would make room for more honest candidates. Corruption and fraud can not be wiped out but they can certainly be cut way back.

Some times we have to sit back and take an honest look at what is going on and this is one of them. It will not stop Democracy it will just give Thailand time to take a look at it and what the type of government they have is doing to the country. Then an election will be held and people will be much more aware of what the governments function are.

There are and will be those who refuse to change or even look at what is happening but there will be far fewer of them. I of course am presuming the council will be transparent in it's dealings and all sessions open to the public. The only reason I back the one side is because I am more concerned about Thailand than I am a family holding on to power just for the sake of it and the money they can bleed out of it.

See post number 10

This is just a sign of how low the PTP supporters can go. Beyond grasping at straws.

Edited January 24, 2014 by northernjohn

[tingtongteesood]

They are so terrified of elections!

If the Constitutional Court gives the EC power to delay elections, it's really giving them the power to cancel elections. Once we're outside the Constitution 60 day limit, we're outside any legal boundary.

So when EC doesn't hold election for a year, two years, three years, what then?

The courts won't act soon enough to delay the vote. The election will result in a parliament with less than 95% of seats filled and thus under the constitution unable to function. Face it on Feb 3 Thailand will be outside the legal boundaries. Who is going to be making decisions then? YS will not be able to claim to be even the Caretaker at that point. The results will have to be scrapped. Who is going to be running the show after groundhog day?

Feb 2 in America is groundhog day, Bill Murray starred in a movie of the same name in which he was stuck in a cycle of reliving the same day over and over and no matter what he did he would wake up and relive groundhog day again. Sounds like Thai politics, a never ending cycle of the same old thing.

How extraordinarily appropriate and by the way what a great movie, I love Bill Murray !

[bigbamboo]

It is there in every media report in every paper in every country bar 2 or 3 in Thailand.

that is, the Army traditionally side with the Anti Thaksin movement. There's the problem.

Yingluk has even offered another election in one years time. Guess who is not talking? Too busy screaming the Peoples Council policies out loud from the stage. Making up policy on the hoof and promising to pay farmers if they support him.... after he blocked their payments.

So this is buying votes writ large and presumably once the Junta is installed in his dream coup, all his rants from the stage will have to be honored. Very democratic I don't think. Sound more like a dictator?

What a circus is the thai elite and their cronies. No wonder the Govermnet is digging in on this. They have to be got rid of. EC, CC, Army acting as a private business and mafia enforcer.

Stick with it Yingluck most of the world are behind you and the ones that are not with you, really don't deserve mention after this latest outrage.

Spot on

Sad to see how the institutions, who officially are unpolitical, clearly siding with the elite, now that the winds have changed! In the interest of the country?? No to keep their "rightful" place at the trough!!

If might take some time, but the existing feudal system have to give way for something more democratic!

Thailand is in dire need of a European style Socialdemocratic Party. And to the Americans here, it doesn't equal communism!

True enough. The Dems and the TRT/PPP/PTP have both proved unworthy of a democracy, even one as flakey as Thailand. A third party serving the people and not themselves is needed along with an inspirational leader.

So is there anybody out there?

[Thai at Heart]

It is there in every media report in every paper in every country bar 2 or 3 in Thailand.

that is, the Army traditionally side with the Anti Thaksin movement. There's the problem.

Yingluk has even offered another election in one years time. Guess who is not talking? Too busy screaming the Peoples Council policies out loud from the stage. Making up policy on the hoof and promising to pay farmers if they support him.... after he blocked their payments.

So this is buying votes writ large and presumably once the Junta is installed in his dream coup, all his rants from the stage will have to be honored. Very democratic I don't think. Sound more like a dictator?

What a circus is the thai elite and their cronies. No wonder the Govermnet is digging in on this. They have to be got rid of. EC, CC, Army acting as a private business and mafia enforcer.

Stick with it Yingluck most of the world are behind you and the ones that are not with you, really don't deserve mention after this latest outrage.

Spot on

Sad to see how the institutions, who officially are unpolitical, clearly siding with the elite, now that the winds have changed! In the interest of the country?? No to keep their "rightful" place at the trough!!

If might take some time, but the existing feudal system have to give way for something more democratic!

Thailand is in dire need of a European style Socialdemocratic Party. And to the Americans here, it doesn't equal communism!

True enough. The Dems and the TRT/PPP/PTP have both proved unworthy of a democracy, even one as flakey as Thailand. A third party serving the people and not themselves is needed along with an inspirational leader.

So is there anybody out there?

I'd vote for them..