56 year old student.

Backs up the governments assertion all along that these are middle aged hired guns... These thugs have spread terror in Bangkok... Now they must live their lives looking over their shoulders.

With your ridiculous comment, I'm guessing that you've never been anywhere near higher education establishments.

When we were there we studied. we didn't riot, beat up street vendors, extort money at checkpoints, hold peoples arms and legs whilst beating them up in front of TV camera. 9" Nicky getting beaten by No Nob Nok and his idiot mates dressed in black kung <deleted> outfits.

we didn't riot for days on end outside Governemt buildings, drive bulldozers at police lines, set fire to busses or shoot people dead from out Student Dorms (BTW, those 2 studends who shot the red shirt guy at the stadium... were arrested!!!! So clever wern't they). Thie was live on all tv screens in Nov... so don't show your self up asking for proof.

We didn't try to stop election registrations by rioting and trying to invade the registration centres.

We did not arrogantly march in a group of 300 claiming we were 6 million strong and had the right to rule the country.

We did not raid and intimidate TV stations or office workers, teachers or muslim scholars, to name a few.

We did not set up illegal stages and markets and blare loud music out all night as at Asoke.

We did not riot and scream to the army to help us by staging a coup.

We did not support a known shadowy figure with a lifetime of corruption behind him as he embarks on a personal crusade against one who slighted him.

As we did none of these things we did not get shot dead by somebody we had pissed off.

Just what did you study if you can't recognise a fascist organisation such as this? Obviously not European 20th Century history.

To be fair, you probably didn't have a government that took orders from a convicted criminal who was on the lam overseas.

jeeezus, it was only a nameplate

It was more than that. Apparently, he also had threatened to kill people and do some other things.

I haven't seen the documentation of the assault, but it wasn't a case of coming up and twiddling with the item.

In fairness, we don't even know if the person assaulted was involved or if there was another reason for the shooting.

Really he threatened to kill people and 'do some other things'.

First we've heard of it. Post a link would you?

56 year old student.

Backs up the governments assertion all along that these are middle aged hired guns... These thugs have spread terror in Bangkok... Now they must live their lives looking over their shoulders.

With your ridiculous comment, I'm guessing that you've never been anywhere near higher education establishments.

Probably never been near higher education more than likely.

My money's on P6.

Must have hit a sore nerve with that. 6 flames altogether.... that counts the same as a like as we really do not give a hoot what fascists think. The battle i well lost and even Suthep is back tracking tonight. Said he is writing a letter to Obama to tell him the truth...... May as well write to his mummy or santa claus if he thinks a progressive like Obama would entertain another dictator on the Asian Block.

One of you was asking for proof that most of the media in the world were against him.... well here is the proof. His constant bleating and the rubbish Op Ed in the other newspaper today...

You give up your autonomy to Suthep if you like. But make sure you don't bleat about any of his policies if he gets in.

2006 was the same. All the expat Intelegentia posting for suthep, then wailing and whining about visa threats, The foreign Business act, land owner ship and bar opening times.

Anyway, if you loved that post, you'll have really loved the reply... . 10 baht a like, 20 baht I do here with my Yellow shirt posting mate. , so I've enough for a beer just from you three. He can think though and his posts do offer insights.

Is anyone surprised by this ? im certainly not. Tragic as always but you play with fire you will get burned, he messed with the RTP badge and quite possibly was seen as a gross insult to both the police and king, very likely to end up with Thai style response, to the head

Keep defending the indefensible, it's quite clear that Red Shirt / PTP democracy is done through violence, intimidation and murder. It's all there in the history.

Im not defending anything, get off your soapbox m8 this was going on in the 90s and the 80s and the 70s. Seriously need to check your obsession levels, you dont F with the RTP or anything with the word Royal in it if you do bad things happen.... fact

Im not your mate , fact. All your posts are obseesed with defending PTP.

Enjoy your trolling.

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Hmmm is this yet another member of the idiosyncrasy if your not with us you must be PTP .... wrong old bean I care only about the right to vote not the right to rule.... come here and let me give you a cuddle, your deeply in need of one

Any death is a tragedy but TIT,reactions can be violent and misplaced as is your attitude and assessment that all things begin and end with your beloved PTP

For a sign?

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TIT.

People regualarly are killed for much less than this. Always been the same and has nothing to do with Thaksin or Suthep,.. it comes with the territory.

Student on motorbike was shot dead in phuket few years ago middle of road by another biker. The thug who did it said he thought the boy had looked at him.

This is why people need to take more heed of the talk of civil war. There are many people on both sides of this political divide who are more than capable of killing... and for quite small reasons. Coup is a big thing and could easily badly escalate.

Not normally assassinated in a hit though.

Spur of the moment, but retribution for a sign?

Is anyone surprised by this ? im certainly not. Tragic as always but you play with fire you will get burned, he messed with the RTP badge and quite possibly was seen as a gross insult to both the police and king, very likely to end up with Thai style response, to the head

Keep defending the indefensible, it's quite clear that Red Shirt / PTP democracy is done through violence, intimidation and murder. It's all there in the history.

Im not defending anything, get off your soapbox m8 this was going on in the 90s and the 80s and the 70s. Seriously need to check your obsession levels, you dont F with the RTP or anything with the word Royal in it if you do bad things happen.... fact

Your post was disgusting, don't bother trying to back out of it.

.....a member of the Network of Students and People for Thailands Reform. Not necessarily a student.

Shhhh.... Your pointing out to others to read accurately what is written really puts the brakes on their free-flowing rants.

As with the red shirt leader who was recently shot and hurt at his home, it is nearly impossible to guess the real motive for this deplorable act.

the police will undoubtedly conclude it was suicide same same all the farang deaths from jumping out of hotels and condos

And now starts the police blame game from the yellow brown shirts.

Do you never stop? Who would you suggest was involved...?!

56 year old student.

Backs up the governments assertion all along that these are middle aged hired guns... These thugs have spread terror in Bangkok... Now they must live their lives looking over their shoulders.

What makes you think he's a student? It doesn't say that in the article.

The battle i well lost

Indeed you have, but insight is improving.

Just posted in the news thread:

RT@Thai_Talk: Relatives of PDRC protester shot dead in Ratchburi today, said he was not in BKK at time of Police HQ signage destruction. via @joe_black317

Amazing if this guy was marked and executed for something he didn't even participate in.

Or - could have been an entirely different set of circumstances that led to his demise.

Sometimes I am just gobsmacked by ThaiVisa - two pages of crap and speculation within 39 minutes of this news being posted.

The protestor got what he deserved??? <deleted>?

Ralatives said he was not even in Bangkok at the time.......................

Maybe, just maybe the family is lying??

Whereas we can put our pensions on what the RTP tell us, right...?!

For a sign?

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Naw, for something really serious.

Lost Face.

Exactly.

56 year old student.

Backs up the governments assertion all along that these are middle aged hired guns... These thugs have spread terror in Bangkok... Now they must live their lives looking over their shoulders.

What makes you think he's a student? It doesn't say that in the article.

I was been derisive... Sorry it went over your head. I was expressing disbelief and pointing out... ah never mind.

Better luck with the next coup attempt guys. Maybe some of you will have learnt to post with insight or information.

As I know the jaded tactic is to ask for proof and references ... here you go. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/derisive

Talk about nonsense post, I have read the first page and no need to read any more.

jeeezus, it was only a nameplate

technically speaking it was a royal seal

Is anyone surprised by this ? im certainly not. Tragic as always but you play with fire you will get burned, he messed with the RTP badge and quite possibly was seen as a gross insult to both the police and king, very likely to end up with Thai style response, to the head

Keep defending the indefensible, it's quite clear that Red Shirt / PTP democracy is done through violence, intimidation and murder. It's all there in the history.

Im not defending anything, get off your soapbox m8 this was going on in the 90s and the 80s and the 70s. Seriously need to check your obsession levels, you dont F with the RTP or anything with the word Royal in it if you do bad things happen.... fact

Your post was disgusting, don't bother trying to back out of it.

Back out of what, for simply telling the truth of the way things are here ? hardly disgusting other than the reality of the way things have always been in LOS before or since PTP it does not matter, really you need to educate yourself on the history of this place before The T not just since. High time people stopped pretending this place was non violent before because it was and always has been, its a misconception of people that have no historic knowledge of this country and seeing as they teach none of it in school here or put it in the travel brochures im not surprised some are ignorant of the past but it makes it no less true.

Don't shoot the messenger ladies

I know the coup-mongers will be all up in the air about this and play the holier-than-thou card, plus who the perps were is anybody's guess....However, even in well policed societies it is generally known by the criminal element, that messing with the police personally, is risky......Not that this is anywhere close, but someone who kills or injures a policeman better make tracks, and fast. Revenge may be slow in coming, but come it will....The Police are a fraternity of brothers in the end. You mess with one, you mess with them all.

Right right! Well, revenge is certainly slow coming to Chalerm's son and the Red Bull heir.

Most of your post doesn't apply to Thailand when there are influential people involved.

56 year old student.

Backs up the governments assertion all along that these are middle aged hired guns... These thugs have spread terror in Bangkok... Now they must live their lives looking over their shoulders.

What makes you think he's a student? It doesn't say that in the article.

I was been derisive... Sorry it went over your head. I was expressing disbelief and pointing out... ah never mind.

Better luck with the next coup attempt guys. Maybe some of you will have learnt to post with insight or information.

As I know the jaded tactic is to ask for proof and references ... here you go. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/derisive

Truly a pompous prathom graduate

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Talk about nonsense post, I have read the first page and no need to read any more.

Thank God I didn't stop reading after the first page, or else I would have missed your valuable

contribution!!

Why does a country that ascribes to Buddhism put such a low cost on the sanctity of life? I have never had that question answered by anyone, not even my Thai wife. There are not that many Thais in the world. Proportionally, when one Thai dies it is like 22 Americans died, like an equal number of British citizens died, like over two hundred Chinese died...even the worst misfit of Thailand is a small person in a very large universe that has a finite numbers of inhabitants. This one didn't die. This one was murdered.

This is horrible. I could understand an arrest, but an execution? Bad form, and very bad form at that. Actually, the worst form even the Mad Hatter could have ever conceived in his wildest mercury-tainted dreams.

How does this end? Where does this become humane? When does this become civilized?

How? Where? When?

Sadly, never. Never today, anyway...

Welcome to Asia, newcomers. I feel sick, literally ill.

Thai people deserve better than this, much better than this.

I object to this. I strenuously object to this. I object to this with every iota of humanity in my heart, and every part of whatever is left, and even the smaller parts of them, in entirety.

Damn it!

I have to stop reading the news. It only makes me worry about my Thai daughter, and the weird and horrible world both sides are offering her.

Goodbye.

For a sign?

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TIT.

People regualarly are killed for much less than this. Always been the same and has nothing to do with Thaksin or Suthep,.. it comes with the territory.

Student on motorbike was shot dead in phuket few years ago middle of road by another biker. The thug who did it said he thought the boy had looked at him.

This is why people need to take more heed of the talk of civil war. There are many people on both sides of this political divide who are more than capable of killing... and for quite small reasons. Coup is a big thing and could easily badly escalate.

Not normally assassinated in a hit though.

Spur of the moment, but retribution for a sign?

Apparently he wasn't even in BKK at the time of that incident. Anyway, he wouldn't have been killed over the sign.

You people sits safe behind your computers and making fun off people getting killed. Lets hope next time it´s not one from your families getting shot! Shame on you!!!

I'm after liberalism and liberty of choice... if someone is stupid enough to do stupid things and he will get killed in this process... well... one dumb person less on the planet which is actually very good for the rest of population...

Are you 100% sure he was involved?

This place has tried every kind of politics there is in the last 70yrs. Absolute Monarchy, constitutional monarchy, dictatorship, subjugation and many military autocracies/junta's. You'd kinda hope they'd worked out which system to back by now!

RIP. My condolences to his family, I hope they are able to cope with their loss somehow.

It is possible he had old enemies, and this happened now unrelated to the current situation. I didn't know him, but a man with enough free time to hang round the streets vandalising things, probably has a colourful history including confrontations with people. The actions at the PHQ were not the actions of refined gentlemen or high-strata thinkers, and I would consider that he had probably crossed swords with people before all this started. Maybe it just caught up with him now. One thing is for sure - we will never know who did it.

I strenuously object to this. I object to this with every iota of humanity in my heart, and every part of whatever is left, and even the smaller parts of them, in entirety.

A perfect summary. Red or yellow, it really wont matter soon enough. A terrifying escalation into state terrorism.

the penalty for making the police lose face.

This is very disturbing and reflects the new lows to which Thailand has descended. That descent has been gradual over the past 30 or 40 years, it ebbs and flows, but violence seems to be more accepted today than in the past. I don't believe this is a red/yellow issue so much a reflective of poor education, endemic corruption, ridiculous ease of access to weapons, a national psyche that can't deal with the issues confronting it with its " big girl panties" on. We are going into a crisis here but it's not going to be solved by military intervention. That would just reset the ticking clock.

I had a laugh today reading an article in The Nation about the Venezuelan govts crackdown on soap operas on TV...gratuitous violence, weapons used rather than problem solving, shrieking and screaming, substance abuse, misogyny.....ring a bell?

Interesting on this thread that so many of those expressing outrage over this tragic death , showed ZERO concern about earlier , equally hideous events on the other side of the fence. In the valley of the blind, the one-eyed man rules ( a slight variation on the actual quotation)!

jeeezus, it was only a nameplate

Its a lot more than a nameplate...its a warning

.....a member of the Network of Students and People for Thailand’s Reform. Not necessarily a student.

At his age it maybe that he was an organiser....SAD but the message has been sent, from Chalerm...I dont know