PM Yingluck to face probe for Nakhon Ratchasima's red-shirt rally

[webfact]

PM to face probe for Nakhon Ratchasima’s red-shirt rally



KORAT: -- The National Anti-Corruption Commission has decided to launch a fact-finding probe against caretaker Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra for allegedly failing to restrain and to take actions against her two cabinet ministers who took part in February 23 red-shirt rally in Nakhon Ratchasima during which some speakers openly incited unrest and advocated violence and separatism.

NACC secretary-general Sansern Polajiak said that the NACC decided to order a fact-finding investigation after it had received complaints accusing the prime minister for allow caretaker Interior Minister and Pheu Thai party leader Charupong Ruangsuwan and caretaker deputy commerce Minister Natthawut Saikua to join the red-shirt mass rally, titled UDD beating the war drum, at the Liptapallop Hall of the provincial stadium on February 23.

During the rally, it was alleged that some firebrand red shirts took to the stage to advocate violence and partitioning of the North and Northeast from the rest of the country.

Sansern said the prime minister was accused of failing to restrain and to take punitive actions against the two ministers for their unbecoming conduct.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/yingluck-18-wpcf_728x413.jpg


-- Thai PBS 2014-03-19

[Chupup]

Just add it to the rest, this person really does stand tooo close to the fire for her own good................................

[NongKhaiKid]

Leave her alone, she's got a bad leg or in other words doesn't have a leg to stand on

[Yunla]

"Please don't probe my ankle, it hurts like anything."

[Fryslan boppe]

Interesting to see all these attempts at a "judicial coup" unfold.

This is what Suthep and his handlers are waiting for, while hunkered down in Lumpini......They have passed the baton to their buddies in the judiciary.

Here, yawn, yawn...is another peel to this unfolding onion.

The electoral majority is on to this Elitist, anti-democratic game, and watching....watching....... preparing.....preparing.

There was a media hiccup in this headline however.....Where was the "caretaker" thing they have inserted at every opportunity....I don't recall ever seeing that in the media of other Electoral democracies, between when a Govt. calls an election and the election itself.........Just PAD-Dem folderol.

Edited March 19, 2014 by Fryslan boppe

[whybother]

Wouldn't it make sense to go after the people that attended or said things, rather than someone who has no control over what anyone does?

[djjamie]

Police officer Daeng who made the speech in question should be terminated from the police force as well, but of course that won't happen with Adul as the police chief. Police officers jobs are to serve and protect the people, not to advocate violence on the people.

Of course it comes as no surprise that yingluck won't say or do anything against her ministers. Is is the very people that cheered the deaths of innocent people that she is hiding behind in the north of Thailand. Those people she turns too when feeling down and needs a warm smile or a friendly face to stem the tide of illegitimacy.

When your political allies are UDD terrorists what does that make you?

Edited March 19, 2014 by djjamie

[CiaranO]

this is becoming ridiculous.....they have no idea what a probe is or how to conduct one - land of hubs and probes now.

[Tatsujin]

Interesting to see all these attempts at a "judicial coup" unfold.

This is what Suthep and his handlers are waiting for, while hunkered down in Lumpini......They have passed the baton to their buddies in the judiciary.

Here, yawn, yawn...is another peel to this unfolding onion.

The electoral majority is on to this Elitist, anti-democratic game, and watching....watching....... preparing.....preparing.

There was a media hiccup in this headline however.....Where was the "caretaker" thing they have inserted at every opportunity....I don't recall ever seeing that in the media of other Electoral democracies, between when a Govt. calls an election and the election itself.........Just PAD-Dem folderol.

Interesting to see that the caretaker Govt and it's supporters see nothing wrong with their support of violence and promotion of secession. If they don't support it, they might perhaps consider the idea of condemning it perhaps, or even (and here's a wild thought) not actually being on stage when it's being promoted.

And yet another slight correction Fryslan boope . . . the caretaker Govt has NO electoral majority any longer, either in fact or in reality, so can we please stop with the incorrect ramblings and attempts at spinning and deflection.

I know, Courts bad, Yingie good in your minds, but the reality is, when elections are next held, your party won't even be running as it will have been dissolved by then and (probably) all it's MP's impeached and banned also. As for a majority, there is not a snowballs chance in hell that PT (or whatever new incarnation the "I Love Thaksin And Can't See The Woods From The Trees" party becomes) will hold a majority of anything afterwards.

[robblok]

Interesting to see all these attempts at a "judicial coup" unfold.

This is what Suthep and his handlers are waiting for, while hunkered down in Lumpini......They have passed the baton to their buddies in the judiciary.

Here, yawn, yawn...is another peel to this unfolding onion.

The electoral majority is on to this Elitist, anti-democratic game, and watching....watching....... preparing.....preparing.

There was a media hiccup in this headline however.....Where was the "caretaker" thing they have inserted at every opportunity....I don't recall ever seeing that in the media of other Electoral democracies, between when a Govt. calls an election and the election itself.........Just PAD-Dem folderol.

I know people from your part of the Netherlands are not to bright, but there is an easy way to prevent a judicial coop. If she follows the rules then they can't punish her.

So not letting people vote with other peoples cards, not chairing a corrupt scheme that was absolutely not transparant, punishing people in her own party that break the law, not sneaking in laws at crazy times. keeping projects transparant. The list can go on and on.. but the message is that if you follow the rules and not break them the judges can't do a thing.

So maybe even you understands it don't break the law and there is no danger of a judicial coop, however that is real hard for any PTP government because they are mainly incompetent criminals.

[GuestHouse]

Interesting to see all these attempts at a "judicial coup" unfold.

This is what Suthep and his handlers are waiting for, while hunkered down in Lumpini......They have passed the baton to their buddies in the judiciary.

Here, yawn, yawn...is another peel to this unfolding onion.

The electoral majority is on to this Elitist, anti-democratic game, and watching....watching....... preparing.....preparing.

There was a media hiccup in this headline however.....Where was the "caretaker" thing they have inserted at every opportunity....I don't recall ever seeing that in the media of other Electoral democracies, between when a Govt. calls an election and the election itself.........Just PAD-Dem folderol.

This whole trouble started when the PTP Paymaster, the Puppet PM's Puppet Master Thaksin Shinawatra, a man who talks about all the problems of Thailand having their roots in the 'Elite' controlling Thailand refused to submit himself to the law.

Preferring instead to go on the Lam and incite political unrest from overseas while he controls the PTP in their efforts to get him an amnesty.

The PTP is in its inception a mechanism to undermine the rule of law in Thailand.

[kamahele]

another "much ado about nothing" moment for Thai politics

[chainarong]

Is there anything the PTP can do that doesn't need to be investigated, out of the two main groups of political parties , the PTP are the Bad Bad out of a bad lot, don't kid yourself, the others are painted with the same brush , only they seem to keep out of trouble with the law of the land more than the PTP , is this because they have far better advisers and a leader who has lived in a Democratic society , bad advisers , total lack of knowledge and disrespect of basic laws are not the PTP best points.

[commie Joe]

So two people go to a rally & stand on a stage make a speach before or after someone is alledged to of also made a speach so not only the two that didn't say anything wrong being investigated but also the PM for not stopping them from doing nothing wrong . The mind just boggles

[angsta]

But 'shut down Bangkok' is perfectly ok? Gotcha.

I can see why these morons don't want a vote, why would they? Making up this rubbish is so much easier.

Welcome to Burma!

[pattayaorganic]

Interesting to see all these attempts at a "judicial coup" unfold.

This is what Suthep and his handlers are waiting for, while hunkered down in Lumpini......They have passed the baton to their buddies in the judiciary.

Here, yawn, yawn...is another peel to this unfolding onion.

The electoral majority is on to this Elitist, anti-democratic game, and watching....watching....... preparing.....preparing.

There was a media hiccup in this headline however.....Where was the "caretaker" thing they have inserted at every opportunity....I don't recall ever seeing that in the media of other Electoral democracies, between when a Govt. calls an election and the election itself.........Just PAD-Dem folderol.

I hate to go ad hominem but this comment really does illustrate your complete lack of understanding of anything legal/political.

You do understand that a government and a caretaker government are hugely disparate things in terms of what they are legally entitled to do under the constitution. That is if you care about any other aspect of a functional democracy other than the election part....

[TVGerry]

Interesting to see all these attempts at a "judicial coup" unfold.

This is what Suthep and his handlers are waiting for, while hunkered down in Lumpini......They have passed the baton to their buddies in the judiciary.

Here, yawn, yawn...is another peel to this unfolding onion.

The electoral majority is on to this Elitist, anti-democratic game, and watching....watching....... preparing.....preparing.

There was a media hiccup in this headline however.....Where was the "caretaker" thing they have inserted at every opportunity....I don't recall ever seeing that in the media of other Electoral democracies, between when a Govt. calls an election and the election itself.........Just PAD-Dem folderol.

She screwed up so if the courts bring her down, it's not a coup because prime ministers aren't above the law.

Red sympathizers are funny. I mean they really don't see it's wrong for cabinet ministers to attend a rally calling for secession? That's treason. And for the PM to do nothing about it is at best, negligent and at worst just as treasonous. So if the courts strip her of her premiership, she deserves it for this and all the other crap she's done, including the rice scam.

[commie Joe]

 

Interesting to see all these attempts at a "judicial coup" unfold.

This is what Suthep and his handlers are waiting for, while hunkered down in Lumpini......They have passed the baton to their buddies in the judiciary.

Here, yawn, yawn...is another peel to this unfolding onion.

The electoral majority is on to this Elitist, anti-democratic game, and watching....watching....... preparing.....preparing.

There was a media hiccup in this headline however.....Where was the "caretaker" thing they have inserted at every opportunity....I don't recall ever seeing that in the media of other Electoral democracies, between when a Govt. calls an election and the election itself.........Just PAD-Dem folderol.

She screwed up so if the courts bring her down, it's not a coup because prime ministers aren't above the law.

Red sympathizers are funny. I mean they really don't see it's wrong for cabinet ministers to attend a rally calling for secession? That's treason. And for the PM to do nothing about it is at best, negligent and at worst just as treasonous. So if the courts strip her of her premiership, she deserves it for this and all the other crap she's done, including the rice scam.

 

Dear me I feel your pain , life must be really sad if that is the best you can do . Hows things going at kidnap park you know that Lump -em-in-the-river park . If the courts remove her it will be twenty years of pain for Thailand . Sadly

[Baerboxer]

Interesting to see all these attempts at a "judicial coup" unfold.

This is what Suthep and his handlers are waiting for, while hunkered down in Lumpini......They have passed the baton to their buddies in the judiciary.

Here, yawn, yawn...is another peel to this unfolding onion.

The electoral majority is on to this Elitist, anti-democratic game, and watching....watching....... preparing.....preparing.

There was a media hiccup in this headline however.....Where was the "caretaker" thing they have inserted at every opportunity....I don't recall ever seeing that in the media of other Electoral democracies, between when a Govt. calls an election and the election itself.........Just PAD-Dem folderol.

What like your "hiccup" in continually insisting that PTPs large minority vote is an electoral majority.

[webfact]

PM, Ministers To Be Probed For 'Secessionist' Campaign
By Khaosod English


Mr. Nattawut Saikua on the Redshirts rally stage in Nakhon Ratchasima province, 23 February 2014

BANGKOK: -- The National Anti-Corruption Commission has launched an investigation into the claims that top governmental officials, including Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra, are advocating a secessionist agenda.

Citing power under the 1999 Prevention and Suppression of Corruption Act, Mr. Sansern Polchiak, secretary-general of the NACC, announced the inquiry yesterday.

According to Mr. Sansern, the NACC has received complaints that several Cabinet members such as Minister of Interior Affairs Jarupong Ruengsuwan and Deputy Minister of Commerce Nattawut Saikua have appeared on a rally stage alongside other Redshirts core activists in Nakhon Ratchasima province last month, where they allegedly called for "secessionist violence".

In the lengthy complaints received by the NACC, the activists have been accused of instigating violence, intimidating independent agencies and the court, campaigning for abolition of the 2007 Constitution, and calling for the Kingdom of Thailand to be separated into two entities.

The Thai Constitution bans any attempt of separatism.

As high-ranking officials, Mr. Jarupong and Mr. Nattawut might be guilty of negligence of their official duties which lead to grievous damage to the country due to their appearance on the stage, Mr. Sansern argued.

The investigation will also expand to include Ms. Yingluck, as the sec-gen of the NACC claimed that the Prime Minister deliberately refused to take any action against the Redshirts activists for their alleged separatist remarks.

"As a commander [of the government], Ms. Yingluck has the power to suppress and investigate the facts about these actions, but even when the media had reported about the criminal acts, Ms. Yingluck has not proceeded to launch any fact-finding committee," Mr. Sansern complained.

Furthermore, Mr. Sansern charged that Ms. Yingluck is also serving as the Minister of Defence, responsible for exercising powers to protect the stability and security of the Kingdom from all threats, either internal or external, yet the Prime Minister has refused to take action against the Redshirts activists who are allegedly causing damage to the country and the people.

"Therefore, her inaction amounts to negligence of her duty which would cause damage to the nation, or the people, or the Ministry of Defence," Mr. Sansern concluded.

The NACC's decision is certainly bound to have angered many supporters of Ms. Yingluck, who have already viewed "independent bodies", such as the NACC, collaborators with anti-government protesters in their conspiracy to overthrow the elected government.

Prominent Redshirts activists have also denied the allegation that their leadership is seeking to secede any part of Thailand.

Source: http://en.khaosod.co.th/detail.php?newsid=1395201637&section=11&typecate=06


-- Khaosod English 2014-03-19

[Dogmatix]

Interesting to see all these attempts at a "judicial coup" unfold.

This is what Suthep and his handlers are waiting for, while hunkered down in Lumpini......They have passed the baton to their buddies in the judiciary.

Here, yawn, yawn...is another peel to this unfolding onion.

The electoral majority is on to this Elitist, anti-democratic game, and watching....watching....... preparing.....preparing.

There was a media hiccup in this headline however.....Where was the "caretaker" thing they have inserted at every opportunity....I don't recall ever seeing that in the media of other Electoral democracies, between when a Govt. calls an election and the election itself.........Just PAD-Dem folderol.

The "caretaker" prefix has been used by the media to design governments and ministers whose terms have expired and are in a caretaker role until the next govt takes office, ever since I have been following Thai politics (which is from the mid 80s). All constitutions in force during that period have provided for the caretaker role with limited powers. So it is natural for the media to use term to make clear to the public that the powers are limited. All the Prem administrations, the two Chuan administrations and the Abhisit administration were referred to in the same way. Better to check up on your history before making absurd, ignorant allegations or remain silent.

[Tatsujin]

So two people go to a rally & stand on a stage make a speach before or after someone is alledged to of also made a speach so not only the two that didn't say anything wrong being investigated but also the PM for not stopping them from doing nothing wrong . The mind just boggles

So it's OK for the red/UDD/PT side to go on stage, applaud violence, instigate unrest, threaten war, promote secession etc etc, but when the anti-Govt side take to the stage, you immediately jump down their throats for doing so and charge them with whatever you feel like. The mind just boggles at the hypocrisy.

There was no "alleged" (spelling corrected) . . . it happened . . . and by not denouncing this at any point, the PM and the Govt are complicit in supporting it. It's not hard to understand if you take your head out of your a$$ the sand.

[Dogmatix]

YL was set up by her own team twice in this. First Charupong and Nattawut knew what would happen on the "War Drums" stage and chose to support it. YL much later said she didn't support separatism but that was with reference to the comments made by red shirt groups in Chiang Mai, not remarks made by or support shown by her own ministers. She should have swiftly rebuked Charupong and Nattawut over the separatist and the call to arms issues to protect herself. Another balls up by her advisory team which may cost her dearly.

No wonder P'Meo said they were all a bunch of duds in Beijing. He must feel that the better quality rats have already left his sinking ship. His offers of "plum jobs" where you can steal taxpayers' money at the risk of going to prison (or into exile) are no longer drawing talent. No one wants to end up carrying his bags around for him in Dubai. He may have to dip his miser's hand into his own pocket. What pain!

[JamesDean3]

Interesting to see all these attempts at a "judicial coup" unfold.

This is what Suthep and his handlers are waiting for, while hunkered down in Lumpini......They have passed the baton to their buddies in the judiciary.

Here, yawn, yawn...is another peel to this unfolding onion.

The electoral majority is on to this Elitist, anti-democratic game, and watching....watching....... preparing.....preparing.

There was a media hiccup in this headline however.....Where was the "caretaker" thing they have inserted at every opportunity....I don't recall ever seeing that in the media of other Electoral democracies, between when a Govt. calls an election and the election itself.........Just PAD-Dem folderol.

Some people just go their daily grind blind to reality, walking on air.

[TVGerry]

 

Interesting to see all these attempts at a "judicial coup" unfold.

This is what Suthep and his handlers are waiting for, while hunkered down in Lumpini......They have passed the baton to their buddies in the judiciary.

Here, yawn, yawn...is another peel to this unfolding onion.

The electoral majority is on to this Elitist, anti-democratic game, and watching....watching....... preparing.....preparing.

There was a media hiccup in this headline however.....Where was the "caretaker" thing they have inserted at every opportunity....I don't recall ever seeing that in the media of other Electoral democracies, between when a Govt. calls an election and the election itself.........Just PAD-Dem folderol.

She screwed up so if the courts bring her down, it's not a coup because prime ministers aren't above the law.

Red sympathizers are funny. I mean they really don't see it's wrong for cabinet ministers to attend a rally calling for secession? That's treason. And for the PM to do nothing about it is at best, negligent and at worst just as treasonous. So if the courts strip her of her premiership, she deserves it for this and all the other crap she's done, including the rice scam.

 

Dear me I feel your pain , life must be really sad if that is the best you can do . Hows things going at kidnap park you know that Lump -em-in-the-river park . If the courts remove her it will be twenty years of pain for Thailand . Sadly

Is that the best YOU can do? Your posts are nothing but troll posts. Move along now. Your betters are trying to have a discussion here.

[Just1Voice]

Thailand = Burma 5 years ago with electricity.

[HonestQuietBob]

The yellow nut-sacks are just about out of all options, all they are left with is the idiotic and the ridiculous to choose from to achieve their coup.

Games over clowns, pack up the tents and go home.

[tomacht8]

This government buried itself ultimately.

Have already been disconcerting to see how ministers clap their hands for joy on stage,
as they have heard of the massacre from Trat.

Disgusting.

I hope that the NACC also this Natthawut guy and his rice transportation companys check.

[Scamper]

" During the rally, it was alleged that some firebrand red shirts took to the stage to advocate violence and partitioning of the North and Northeast from the rest of the country. "

It wasn't " alleged ". It was taped, and was seen all over the world, and reported about in detail in every newspaper in the country.

" Sansern said the prime minister was accused of failing to restrain and to take punitive actions against the two ministers for their unbecoming conduct. "

It's true. She didn't do anything. I can tell you that for any prime minister around the world, if they were confronted with two cabinet ministers that endorsed a platform of secession, she would demand their resignation on the spot - even if they were long-time close associates or friends. She would have no choice. That's her job. She's sworn to uphold the constitution. Not only did that not happen, but she made no public statement - whatsoever - regarding Charupong and Nuttawut. Nothing ! It's unfathomable.

Edited March 19, 2014 by Scamper

[Bocking]

The yellow nut-sacks are just about out of all options, all they are left with is the idiotic and the ridiculous to choose from to achieve their coup.

Games over clowns, pack up the tents and go home.

'Idiotic and Ridiculous' ???

I'm no fan of the PDRC's activities, but I'd love to spend a day in your amazing world.

The PDRC aren't brining down YLS and the PTP Government, they're doing it all by themselves.