Victory day soon: Suthep

[Lite Beer]

Victory day soon: Suthep
The Sunday Nation

BANGKOK: -- PDRC chief ready to seek royal nod for new PM; Jatuporn warns red shirts won't allow unelected premier

Suthep Thaugsuban, leader of the anti-government movement, announced yesterday that if the movement gained "sovereign" status he would seek royal endorsement for a new prime minister.

His announcement came as thousands of pro-government red-shirt demonstrators gathered for a mass rally on Utthayan (Aksa) Road in Nakhon Pathom, just outside Bangkok.

The red-shirt rally is being held at a time when the caretaker government of Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra is facing a number of legal problems that could lead to its demise.

Suthep yesterday said that as "the people's medium", he would nominate a new prime minister for royal endorsement.

He said following that a "people's assembly" would be set up to reform the country by amending the Constitution and relevant laws, before a new election would be organised.

He said that it was now the "final round" of battle against the caretaker government and that the "victory day" for the anti-government movement was drawing closer.

Suthep, secretary-general of the People's Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC), expects the next battle to last about 15 days in a bid to "seize sovereignty back to the people".

He urged all groups of PDRC's supporters to be ready for declaration of "victory day".

"We will have to fight harder and this time it will be known if we will lose or win," he said before a gathering of PDRC supporters at Lumpini Park.

Suthep said the timing of "victory day" would depend on separate actions by the National Anti-Corruption Commission and the Constitutional Court against Yingluck.

The prime minister faces neglect-of-duty charges linked to the loss-making rice price-pledging scheme and allegations of abuse of power over the transfer of National Security Council secretary-general Thawil Pliensri.

Suthep said the PDRC would prevent the government and its supporters from denying the authority of the court.

"This time we will seize Thailand. The sovereignty belongs to the Thai people and the government has already committed suicide after dissolving the House of Representatives on December 9. We the people have the right to become the sovereign," he said.

Suthep said that yesterday's meeting of PDRC leaders from all over the country at Lumpini Park was attended by representatives from some 1,800 groups.

At the red-shirt rally, Jatuporn Promphan, leader of the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD), said he expected as many as 500,000 people to take part in the rally.

He said the red shirts would not allow an unelected prime minister to rule the country and that after 82 years the country had had enough of a "lack of democracy".

Jatuporn said the red shirts would end their rally tomorrow morning and there would be another mass rally on April 18.

A large number of red-shirt participants, most of whom came in different vehicles, caused traffic congestion in areas around the rally site.

PDRC leader Thaworn Senneam believes the caretaker government will be out of power by the end of the month after the Constitutional Court disqualifies Yingluck for illegally transferring Thawil.

The court on Wednesday agreed to rule on Yingluck's status after a request was made by some senators. It followed a Supreme Administrative Court ruling that Thawil's transfer was illegal.

Thaworn said the Constitutional Court would not need to work much on the case's details given that the Administrative Court had already worked on it.

However, Thaworn said there were legal issues to look into, including how Yingluck's status would change given she was now a caretaker PM.

Another PDRC leader, Suriyasai Katasila, believes the strategic areas of the fight will be in Bangkok, although the capital will need support from the provinces.

However, Suriyasai said the PDRC must expedite drafting of the blueprint for national reform and have it completed by the end of the month.

Caretaker Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Surapong Tovichakchaikul, as chief adviser to the Centre for the Administration of Peace and Order (CAPO), said the red shirts' rally was well organised and he did not expect any violence.

He said he did not understand the movement of 550 PDRC protesters, led by Phra Buddha Issara, which marched around Siam Paragon shopping centre yesterday.

Surapong believes the number of PDRC protesters has dropped to about 30,000 people and he is concerned a third party will instigate violence.

Col Banphot Poonpien, spokesman of the Internal Security Operations Command, said that Army chief General Prayuth Chan-ocha had ordered his men to strictly follow the laws and orders of the CAPO when taking care of peace and order related to the rallies of the PDRC and the UDD.

He said the military would keep a close eye on the two rallies and the situation was not worrisome at the moment while people should not listen to rumours as there had been no signs of violence.

-- The Nation 2014-04-06

[Thai at Heart]

That reads like Suthep was having an out of body experience.

Was he really talking about the PDRC appointing a leader and returning democracy to the people? Was he having a senior moment when he talked about the people supporting his committee because they were sick of s lack of democracy.

I think he is starting to talk in tongues.

[noitom]

Suthep is out of his mind. He said as the "people's medium," he will nominate a new candidate for prime minister. And a lot of Thais are following this lunatic self absorbed nut job.

[sustento]

Someone ought to take that bong off him and find somewhere quiet and dark for him to lie down.

[Robby nz]

He has got carried away at this point.

However it is interesting that his group are talking about moving on with a reform committee while all Jutaporn and the reds can talk about is civil war and a judicial coup.

Thaksin know realizes the army wont step in and give him the coup he has been pushing for so now the excuse to bring out the armed reds will be a judicial coup.

One side wants to go forward the other back.

[tezzainoz]

That reads like Suthep was having an out of body experience.

Was he really talking about the PDRC appointing a leader and returning democracy to the people? Was he having a senior moment when he talked about the people supporting his committee because they were sick of s lack of democracy.

I think he is starting to talk in tongues.

well I guess it depends which side of the fence you are sitting on

One mans trash is another mans treasure

I also have my opinions but they have no basis, same as you in Thailand

I feel Suthep has no right to chose a caretaker PM, but the People do

But as I have a Thai wife I can give my opinions to her, and she can act on my behalf

The only think we have at the moment is that the courts may decide Yingluck is corrupt and make a start to a new Reform for Thailand

On the other side Thaiskin only chance is blood shed for the Thai people by violence and pray we have a coup so he can blame this on the army

TVF members now have a choice

stand for the law and the courts

Or back violence because of this made up democracy by the ballot box

Just my opinion

Edited April 5, 2014 by tezzainoz

[Somtamnication]

Been waiting for that "victory" day since December 4th.!

[Fryslan boppe]

It is good to see that no-one is hiding the reality of a judicial coup anymore.

This article is evidence of it.

Suthep speaking to the anti-democrats at Lumpini Park, as red shirts massed, declared that it is the National Anti-Corruption Commission and the Constitutional Court that will deliver victory for his supporters.

No smoke there.

His demagogic declaration, meant to incense and provoke pro-electoral and Parliamentary Democratic red shirts, is that once Prime Minister Yingluck met her"legal" demise, an unelected Prime Minister would assume power.

Indicating his confidence in the judicial coup, Suthep indicated it was all but a done deal, as per article above.

No more fuzzy-wuzzying about.

No more creeping coup subterfuge, no more denials of a judicial coup reality, no more attempts to cover up anti-electoral and pro-coup intentions. Which were the anticipated end-game from the beginning, pretending to be issue opposition, tellingly and motivationally revealing, outside Parliament.

So that is good...Everyone knows where they stand, and can act accordingly.

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Edited April 5, 2014 by Fryslan boppe

[Thailand]

"Suthep yesterday said that as "the people's medium", he would nominate a new prime minister for royal endorsement.

He said following that a "people's assembly" would be set up to reform the country by amending the Constitution and relevant laws, before a new election would be organised."

Finally completely flipped. It would be kind just to take him away to a nice little retreat overlooking the coast where he can tell the tides what do.

[Tatsujin]

It is good to see that no-one is hiding the reality of a judicial coup anymore.

This article is evidence of it.

Suthep speaking to the anti-democrats at Lumpini Park, as red shirts massed, declared that it is the National Anti-Corruption Commission and the Constitutional Court that will deliver victory for his supporters.

No smoke there.

His demagogic declaration, meant to incense and provoke pro-electoral and Parliamentary Democratic red shirts, is that once Prime Minister Yingluck met her"legal" demise, an unelected Prime Minister would assume power.

Indicating his confidence in the judicial coup, Suthep indicated it was all but a done deal, as per article above.

No more fuzzy-wuzzying about.

No more creeping coup subterfuge, no more denials of a judicial coup reality, no more attempts to cover up anti-electoral and pro-coup intentions. Which were the anticipated end-game from the beginning, pretending to be issue opposition, tellingly and motivationally revealing, outside Parliament.

So that is good...Everyone knows where they stand, and can act accordingly.

.

I'll ignore your usual effusive rhetoric for a moment, and ask two simple questions:

Is it still a judicial coup if those charged/indicted actually ARE guilty of the things they are accused of?

Or is it simply the law doing what it is supposed to do?

[Tatsujin]

On another note, I agree Suthep seems to have lost the plot just a bit, however what suggestions do people have to choose an interim PM/Govt when that time comes? Ask HM to choose and appoint an independent body who then choose the rest of the temporary Govt? Or would that not be acceptable also?

[newatthis]

"Suthep yesterday said that as "the people's medium", he would nominate a new prime minister for royal endorsement.

He said following that a "people's assembly" would be set up to reform the country by amending the Constitution and relevant laws, before a new election would be organised."

Well, at least he won't have to use Skype to tell the people's assembly what to do. The new catch phrase will be "As Suthep says, the Assembly acts."

[noitom]

He's a confirmed crackpot. The international community must be impressed with their Thai partners and leaders.

[alfredthegreat]

Thankyou Suthep for all the protesting that has virtually ruined my business.

[Just1Voice]

In his statement published yesterday in the other paper, he stated he would submit the name of the new PM for Royal Endorsement, and then be "countersigned by me".

Say what you want, but that sounds to me as if he has placed himself on the same level as His Majesty.

Lesse Majeste anyone?

[Roadman]

Suthep is sounding delusion...it is not his call on any PM selection. That is for the courts to resolve via the constitution. He needs to go and visit a bar and get laid.

[Roadman]

On another note, I agree Suthep seems to have lost the plot just a bit, however what suggestions do people have to choose an interim PM/Govt when that time comes? Ask HM to choose and appoint an independent body who then choose the rest of the temporary Govt? Or would that not be acceptable also?

Give power to the Army on the back of the courts dealing to the current brothel of a mess. Thai politic parties and most they contain are are mostly morally and politically corrupt - they are a basket case. They need stood down for several years. Only this time around, (and I think the Army are now wise enough to understand the basic principles of democracy), the One who will decide should direct the Army to act as facilitator while thai's from all spectrums and not just politics, select some leaders from their mists, nut out their Constitution, laws for equal meaningful punishment for unlawful activity including corruption, reforms of justice and police divisions, process by which elections will be held when ready...etc.

Thaksin's continued incompetent and corrupt circus's or Sutheps's delusion grandeur. One is as bad as the other no matter how right Suthep is regards the Shinawatra soi dogs.

Edited April 6, 2014 by Roadman

[Bluespunk]

"Suthep yesterday said that as "the people's medium", he would nominate a new prime minister for royal endorsement."

Delusional.

[Bluespunk]

@fryslan boppe

""The Thai people have reached the point of no hope, because we are now aware of the repeated deceptions," Mr Jatuporn told reporters afterward."

Would that be referring to the non payment of the rice farmers by the PT govt?

[noitom]

Sad that this crackpot is the best that Thailand can put up as a "leader."

[likewise]

yellow, red, black, stripes whatever.....this saga is becoming extremely boring !

[jpeg]

But as I have a Thai wife I can give my opinions to her, and she can act on my behalf [unquote]

0_o Well, that's mighty democratic of you. She have a mind of her own? Or is she farang? Whomsoever comes out on top in this power struggle, it is we 'farang' who will bear the brunt end of the stick with both reds and Yellows declaring their intention to rid Thailand of 'foreigners' in their Thai crowd pleasing rhetoric. Of course that won't happen, but gives you a flavour of just how much more difficult we resident 'guests' will find life here.

[VegasVic]

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Been waiting for that "victory" day since December 4th.! alt=whistling.gif width=19 height=18>

Four plus months later and many VICTORY days have we passed? This guy suthep cracks me up

[VegasVic]

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On another note, I agree Suthep seems to have lost the plot just a bit, however what suggestions do people have to choose an interim PM/Govt when that time comes? Ask HM to choose and appoint an independent body who then choose the rest of the temporary Govt? Or would that not be acceptable also?

Give power to the Army on the back of the courts dealing to the current brothel of a mess. Thai politic parties and most they contain are are mostly morally and politically corrupt - they are a basket case. They need stood down for several years. Only this time around, (and I think the Army are now wise enough to understand the basic principles of democracy), the One who will decide should direct the Army to act as facilitator while thai's from all spectrums and not just politics, select some leaders from their mists, nut out their Constitution, laws for equal meaningful punishment for unlawful activity including corruption, reforms of justice and police divisions, process by which elections will be held when ready...etc.

Thaksin's continued incompetent and corrupt circus's or Sutheps's delusion grandeur. One is as bad as the other no matter how right Suthep is regards the Shinawatra soi dogs.

Roadman, Wrong idea at the wrong time! A military coup now would do far more harm to Thailand than this nutcase sutthep could ever do

[Why ask]

"Jatuporn said the red shirts would end their rally tomorrow morning and there would be another mass rally on April 18."

How do you have 'another' mass rally when there hasn't been one in the first place?

[RogueExpat]

Isn't it funny that the people bleating on about a "judicial coup" are the same ones that insist there are no mechanisms for removing a government that is cheating and stealing from the Thai people. You can see where their (one would hope misplaced out of ignorance) loyalties lie.

Call it what ever you want, however, there has to be mechanisms in place for removing corrupt politicians and/or their parties from office.

Otherwise you have what is going on at the moment. A handful of families raping the country and the masses living on credit just to get by.

Those who support this corrupt government should be thrown in the gaol as well.

[WoopyDoo]

I wouldn't go too far in believing everything the media reports.

Thy love to twist things to make them sound more sensational.

Suthep almost certainly meant that he will 'as the people's medium' seek royal endorsement for a PM nominated by the people. Meaning the PDRC movement.

Suthep knows he doesn't have the power to appoint a PM himself and he never will have. He knows the senate will be given the power to appoint the PM by the constitutional court.

There are likely to be several nominees for the senate to debate and vote on.

Any PM who is anti-Thaksin will be good for this country.

However, Thaworn said there were legal issues to look into, including how Yingluck's status would change given she was now a caretaker PM.

Ahhhh right.... so...... When I broke into the house and stole the occupant's jewelry I was officially a 'burglar' ..... now that I got away from the house and sold the jewelry, I am technically no longer a 'burglar'... So you can't touch me.

These are the sort of weak arguments that the PTP is now forced out of desperation to put forward as some form of defense.

I think we can all clearly assume that this time Suthep is 100% correct.... This is a victory situation.

Edited April 6, 2014 by WoopyDoo

[Valentine]

If the statements from Mr Suthep are factually correct, bearing in mind the standard of journalism here, then he has is clearly losing the plot & he is still in dinosaur land like the rest of the Democrat party who had great chance to reform recently but passed it over. PTP are still dinosaurs as well, thriving off the feudal system, but they have or did have a much better PR machine.

National reform of politics, justice, army, police, education are long overdue in this country & one should at least give credit to Mr Suthep for raising the awareness of these issues. Maybe there is method in his madness in that he is going to the extreme in order to have room to compromise, just like a good old haggle at the market.

Edited April 6, 2014 by Valentine

[Mentors]

A Victory? For Who? For shure not for the people.

He would better go back to his Province looking after the poor infrastructure, especially, water and electricity.

[ginjag]

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Been waiting for that "victory" day since December 4th.! alt=whistling.gif width=19 height=18>

Four plus months later and many VICTORY days have we passed? This guy suthep cracks me up

He maybe cracks many people up, but without him Thailand would be well up the swannee more than it is already, or hadn't you noticed.

Your head is concentrated on the wrong thing my friend, You should be wanting the cancerous regime out. Forget Suthep/elections/and all the other side winders.