Reds Vow Mass Rally If Court Strips Leaders' Bail

[Lite Beer]

Reds Vow Mass Rally If Court Strips Leaders' Bail

By Khaosod English

BANGKOK: -- The Redshirts have threatened to call a massive rally to express their anger should the court decides to revoke the bail release of their leaders.

The Criminal Court is scheduled to rule on 18 April whether Mr. Jatupon Prompan, the leader of the United Front of Democracy Against Dictatorship (UDD), and his deputy, Mr. Nattawut Saikuea, will have their bail stripped on the grounds of breaking their release conditions by participating in political movements.

Both Mr. Jatupon and Mr. Nattawut are facing terrorism charges related to the unrest in Bangkok in 2010.

Today Mr. Jatupon downplayed the risk of any potential disruption to the UDD chain of command if the court does indeed decree that he must go back to prison with Mr. Nattawut, explaining that the UDD leaders have already arranged plans for all possible "scenarios".

"If our bails are revoked, it certainly wouldn't affect the movements of the Redshirts, because we have fought alongside each other for so long," Mr. Jatupon told reporters, "Each of us understands the fight".

He also claimed that the court decision to strip him of bail would only motivate the Redshirts to take to the streets in great numbers to voice their frustration at the "injustice".

"I have not done anything against the bail conditions," Mr. Jatupon said, "And the people who are charged with terrorism for seizing airports and public buildings have not had their bails revoked", referring to the rival Yellowshirts leaders and their anti-government campaign in 2008.

"I believe this rally will attract an overwhelming number of demonstrators, because the Redshirts will not want to lose face and surrender to Suthep Thaugsuban," Mr. Jatupon added, meaning the sec-gen of the People's Committee for Absolute Democracy With the King As Head of State.

Chief advisor to the UDD, Ms. Thida Thawornseth, echoed the same threat in a press conference at the Imperial Latphrao shopping mall today, stating that the Redshirts are willing to organise a massive rally in support of Mr. Jatupon, and to deter any faction from launching a coup against Ms. Yingluck.

"We will close the doors to coups of all kinds," Ms. Thida said, "Be it a coup by the military or a coup by the judiciary".

Source: http://en.khaosod.co.th/detail.php?newsid=1397647634&section=11

-- Khaosod English 2014-04-16

[bigbamboo]

I didn't realise Jat and Nat had any bails?

[JesseFrank]

Looks like they have their ID card ready, in exchange for the 500 Baht daily

[thesetat2013]

Threatening to deter the courts is supposed to be a criminal act in itself. Maybe Ms Thida is in line for a warrant this week? They can not block a coup! What can they do except start a war. I mean really! Do they think they can just take over the Gov and lock themselves in offices and run the country?

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[Pimay1]

"If our bails are revoked, it certainly wouldn't affect the movements of the Redshirts, because we have fought alongside each other for so long," Mr. Jatupon told reporters.

Right except when he saw the army coming to disperse the reds. Then he ran like a scalded dog leaving the cannon fodder on their own. When the going gets tough, the tough get going Jatuporn gets the hell out of Dodge.

[Scamper]

And the UDD prize for most criminal threat to the judiciary this week goes to -

Thida

" We will close the doors to coups of all kinds," Ms. Thida said, "Be it a coup by the military or a coup by the judiciary. "

Thida and the UDD use the phrase " judicial coup " so often, we forget that it is actually a criminal statement - because it is one that is intended to sow seeds of distrust in the judiciary, particularly the Constitutional Court - the highest court in the land. There can be no greater crime than this narrative that the UDD is actively engaged in. This is the kind of statement that will someday doubtless be read in court if the UDD should be stupid enough to put actions to their words. And it is the kind of statement that Yingluck should admonish publicly ( but doesn't ). Yingluck could put a stop to this dangerous nonsense. Right now. She could go up to a microphone and say that she and her party will unconditionally and unequivocally accept the Constitutional Court verdict - whatever it may be. Any leader of integrity in any part of the world would do that. Why isn't she doing that ? Why isn't she affirming her respect for the judiciary ? By not doing so only implies that she tacitly agrees with Thida. It is shameful and it shouldn't be tolerated.

[Soutpeel]

Tell me again how many redshirts turned up at their last little shin dig ?

One wonders for this proposed mass rally will they supply elevated porta potties again from Mr Happy Toilet ?

[SoilSpoil]

If we are found guilty, we will revolt.

If you find out that we are corrupt and are thiefs, raped and pillaged the country and its taxpayers we will revolt. Just know that we will not accept any responsibility for our crimes.

UDD democracy!

[Costas2008]

From what I see in the picture above, all the bored housewives join the red rallies.

Nothing to do all day lets join the reds.

Husbands are going home........no dinner.

Kids are screaming with the grandmother......mai ben rai.

Let's go and party and also get 500baht for makeup.

These are the red voters.

And then they tell me, "respect my vote".

[Fryslan boppe]

Looks like they have their ID card ready, in exchange for the 500 Baht daily

Perhaps that quote is cynical, but let me reply otherwise.

They were holding up their ID cards when it was declared from the stage that the anti-democrats were making faux accusations that non-Thai people were rallying for the UDD/Red Shirts.

To continually accuse the UDD/RS's of having low politicization, and only for money, is not lost on them either.

Good luck to the PAD-Dem's to expand their electoral base with self-defeating denigration like that. They really do have a death wish with respect to improving their electoral appeal.

[kurtgruen]

Not another mass rally.

Last time, Jattuporn said he would bring 500,000 people, the red side could not even post any pictures afterwards, because the only thing they had a lot of was Toilets, hanging up in the air.

I will be glad, when all this is over, just so all the rhetoric will stop and we can go back to real news

[Skywalker69]

The Redshirts have threatened to call a massive rally to express their anger should the court decides to revoke the bail release of their leaders.

Another Photoshop rally?

[Fryslan boppe]

Threatening to deter the courts is supposed to be a criminal act in itself. Maybe Ms Thida is in line for a warrant this week? They can not block a coup! What can they do except start a war. I mean really! Do they think they can just take over the Gov and lock themselves in offices and run the country?

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"Threatening to deter the courts is supposed to be a criminal act in itself"

Agreed....That would be the case for non-politicized courts for sure.

[JesseFrank]

Looks like they have their ID card ready, in exchange for the 500 Baht daily

Perhaps that quote is cynical, but let me reply otherwise.

They were holding up their ID cards when it was declared from the stage that the anti-democrats were making faux accusations that non-Thai people were rallying for the UDD/Red Shirts.

To continually accuse the UDD/RS's of having low politicization, and only for money, is not lost on them either.

Good luck to the PAD-Dem's to expand their electoral base with self-defeating denigration like that. They really do have a death wish with respect to improving their electoral appeal.

My quote wasn't cynical, it is a know fact that the red protesters had to surrender their ID card in 2010, as prevention that they went home.

[Fryslan boppe]

Tell me again how many redshirts turned up at their last little shin dig ?

One wonders for this proposed mass rally will they supply elevated porta potties again from Mr Happy Toilet ?

"Tell me again how many redshirts turned up at their last little shin dig ?

The UDD/Red Shirts have been very happy with the turn-out at all rallies, recent ones included....Attendance is not a problem for them, as PAD-Dem's try to imply without substance......Reporting wishful thinking as if it was fact is very obvious.

One must understand that whatever the turn-out, they represent the electoral majority....

Subjective innuendo cannot assail measurable electoral objectivity....Ya got that?

[Fryslan boppe]

If we are found guilty, we will revolt.

If you find out that we are corrupt and are thiefs, raped and pillaged the country and its taxpayers we will revolt. Just know that we will not accept any responsibility for our crimes.

UDD democracy!

"If you find out that we are corrupt and are thiefs, raped and pillaged the country and its taxpayers we will revolt"

So will voters.

Tell me again, why PAD-Dem's are so afraid of them.

[scorecard]

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And the UDD prize for most criminal threat to the judiciary this week goes to -

Thida

" We will close the doors to coups of all kinds," Ms. Thida said, "Be it a coup by the military or a coup by the judiciary. "

Thida and the UDD use the phrase " judicial coup " so often, we forget that it is actually a criminal statement - because it is one that is intended to sow seeds of distrust in the judiciary, particularly the Constitutional Court - the highest court in the land. There can be no greater crime than this narrative that the UDD is actively engaged in. This is the kind of statement that will someday doubtless be read in court if the UDD should be stupid enough to put actions to their words. And it is the kind of statement that Yingluck should admonish publicly ( but doesn't ). Yingluck could put a stop to this dangerous nonsense. Right now. She could go up to a microphone and say that she and her party will unconditionally and unequivocally accept the Constitutional Court verdict - whatever it may be. Any leader of integrity in any part of the world would do that. Why isn't she doing that ? Why isn't she affirming her respect for the judiciary ? By not doing so only implies that she tacitly agrees with Thida. It is shameful and it shouldn't be tolerated.

Am I right in thinking thida seems to have come back in the last week or so and jatuporn not so prevalent?

Seems odd considering the clarity and transparency and accuracy of voting etc., for the UDD leader position.

[Skywalker69]

From what I see in the picture above, all the bored housewives join the red rallies.

Nothing to do all day lets join the reds.

Husbands are going home........no dinner.

Kids are screaming with the grandmother......mai ben rai.

Let's go and party and also get 500baht for makeup.

These are the red voters.

And then they tell me, "respect my vote".

Eight Thais with ID cards, so the rest is Burmese?

[Robby nz]

It would seem pretty certain that their bail will be revoked, if the court didn't think they had violated their bail they wouldn't have called them in for a hearing.

And we see more threats and intimidation to the court and judges.

But it hasn't worked so far, possibly they should try the pastry boxes again, but that didn't work either did it.

[Fryslan boppe]

From what I see in the picture above, all the bored housewives join the red rallies.

Nothing to do all day lets join the reds.

Husbands are going home........no dinner.

Kids are screaming with the grandmother......mai ben rai.

Let's go and party and also get 500baht for makeup.

These are the red voters.

And then they tell me, "respect my vote".

"From what I see in the picture above, all the bored housewives join the red rallies.

These are the red voters.

And then they tell me, "respect my vote".

The UDD/RS are, generally speaking, 80% women. My guestimate.

However, to malign them, suggesting female votes are not to be respected, as a wee tad sexist, isn't it.

Universal suffrage was resolved many, many years ago.

[Fryslan boppe]

Looks like they have their ID card ready, in exchange for the 500 Baht daily

Perhaps that quote is cynical, but let me reply otherwise.

They were holding up their ID cards when it was declared from the stage that the anti-democrats were making faux accusations that non-Thai people were rallying for the UDD/Red Shirts.

To continually accuse the UDD/RS's of having low politicization, and only for money, is not lost on them either.

Good luck to the PAD-Dem's to expand their electoral base with self-defeating denigration like that. They really do have a death wish with respect to improving their electoral appeal.

My quote wasn't cynical, it is a know fact that the red protesters had to surrender their ID card in 2010, as prevention that they went home.

Huh?

Where did you dream that up.

The only thing associated with ID cards in 2010, was when a close associate of mine buried her ID card when those brave soldiers were attacking them in Wat Pratum (sp?).....We went back and retrieved it later.

Some of us were associated with the Red Shirts throughout their 2010 pro-election battle, so don't try to fictionalize us.

[Thait Spot]

Looks like they have their ID card ready, in exchange for the 500 Baht daily

Perhaps that quote is cynical, but let me reply otherwise.

They were holding up their ID cards when it was declared from the stage that the anti-democrats were making faux accusations that non-Thai people were rallying for the UDD/Red Shirts.

To continually accuse the UDD/RS's of having low politicization, and only for money, is not lost on them either.

Good luck to the PAD-Dem's to expand their electoral base with self-defeating denigration like that. They really do have a death wish with respect to improving their electoral appeal.

So. How many red shirt leaders have you met?

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[djjamie]

At the infamous UDD war drum meeting where a police sergeant incited the audience and garnered cheers and clapping by stating proudly that 15 principle protestors were killed in a terrorist attack is were these bail conditions were violated.

The accused terrorists told there supporters to hold the courts and independent agencies in contempt and encouraged them to form an armed militia to push for this intimidation of the courts and independent agencies.

Now before I go on I will state that it comes as no surprise that people that clap and cheer upon hearing news from the police sergeant would comply with an order to garner the largest armed street gang in history to intimidate the courts.

To continue the bail conditions were clearly stated. The accused terrorists signed this order to comply. They signed it. They said they would comply and they signed that they understood the consequences of not complying.

They quite clearly didn't comply to the request and will now (if guilty of course) suffer the consequences. In other words they will be held accountable. Being held accountable is not in the UDD or PTP ethos however so they will continue to hold the law in contempt by alluring that the people that cheer and clap terrist attacks in Trat will come out and well cry and protest that an accused terrorist broke his bail conditions.

In summary. Terrorists kill innocent people. UDD response is cheering and clapping. An accused terrorist breaks bail conditions. UDD response is "Redshirts will take to the streets in great numbers to voice their frustration at the "injustice"

Now I don't know about you esteemed forum members, but I would have thought that denouncing terrorist attacks and promoting justice for accused terrorists is how we do things in modern societies. The UDD have got this ethos the wrong way around.

​And people wonder why they don't hold the majority anymore.

The majority know that terrorism is bad and that the rule of law is good.

To think otherwise is more at home in the the books written by people that thought 9/11 was a good thing.

Edited April 16, 2014 by djjamie

[WoopyDoo]

So what happened to Suthep's murder indictment court date? The one he got delayed with a letter from someone important? The one he hasn't attended. What happened to that?

And who wrote that letter to the court, if Suthep is making such a mochery of the court, perhaps the court should release the letter so we can see who wrote it and what it said.

First off... Sutheop doesn't have an appointment with the court, he has an appointment with the DSI.

The DSI is not a court, it is just a department of the police and judiciary completely controlled by Thaksin, the biggest criminal to ever walk on Thai land.

Just goes to show that once again you are talking out of your hat.

[BlueNoseCodger]

Looks like they have their ID card ready, in exchange for the 500 Baht daily

They're holding out their id cards to prove their Thai nationality, because your professional liars told people they were Burmese.

[geriatrickid]

And the UDD prize for most criminal threat to the judiciary this week goes to -

Thida

" We will close the doors to coups of all kinds," Ms. Thida said, "Be it a coup by the military or a coup by the judiciary. "

Thida and the UDD use the phrase " judicial coup " so often, we forget that it is actually a criminal statement - because it is one that is intended to sow seeds of distrust in the judiciary, particularly the Constitutional Court - the highest court in the land. There can be no greater crime than this narrative that the UDD is actively engaged in. This is the kind of statement that will someday doubtless be read in court if the UDD should be stupid enough to put actions to their words. And it is the kind of statement that Yingluck should admonish publicly ( but doesn't ). Yingluck could put a stop to this dangerous nonsense. Right now. She could go up to a microphone and say that she and her party will unconditionally and unequivocally accept the Constitutional Court verdict - whatever it may be. Any leader of integrity in any part of the world would do that. Why isn't she doing that ? Why isn't she affirming her respect for the judiciary ? By not doing so only implies that she tacitly agrees with Thida. It is shameful and it shouldn't be tolerated.

LOL, you put so much effort into these attacks. The judiciary seeking to remove the elected government, are for the appointees of the former military dictatorship and its successor administration led by Abhisit. They are biased against the current government and have not hidden it.

[ginjag]

And the UDD prize for most criminal threat to the judiciary this week goes to -

Thida

" We will close the doors to coups of all kinds," Ms. Thida said, "Be it a coup by the military or a coup by the judiciary. "

Thida and the UDD use the phrase " judicial coup " so often, we forget that it is actually a criminal statement - because it is one that is intended to sow seeds of distrust in the judiciary, particularly the Constitutional Court - the highest court in the land. There can be no greater crime than this narrative that the UDD is actively engaged in. This is the kind of statement that will someday doubtless be read in court if the UDD should be stupid enough to put actions to their words. And it is the kind of statement that Yingluck should admonish publicly ( but doesn't ). Yingluck could put a stop to this dangerous nonsense. Right now. She could go up to a microphone and say that she and her party will unconditionally and unequivocally accept the Constitutional Court verdict - whatever it may be. Any leader of integrity in any part of the world would do that. Why isn't she doing that ? Why isn't she affirming her respect for the judiciary ? By not doing so only implies that she tacitly agrees with Thida. It is shameful and it shouldn't be tolerated.

LOL, you put so much effort into these attacks. The judiciary seeking to remove the elected government, are for the appointees of the former military dictatorship and its successor administration led by Abhisit. They are biased against the current government and have not hidden it.

The government would not be in this predicament had it ruled democratically and well you know it. LOL you put so much effort into your denial.

Listening to the evidence any ordinary man in the street would get the gist of the wrongs --but you will not recognize it.

Would you be worried if the government ran your company, sure if you had any business sense.

It doesn't matter if the government were elected or not, it has to answer to it's disgusting governance. SHAME for anyone that wants to overlook it.

The red army are there to reinstate Yingluck ??? nutters, but just following Thaksins orders to have the army in----Thaksins way to cause turmoil.

[moe666]

And the UDD prize for most criminal threat to the judiciary this week goes to -

Thida

" We will close the doors to coups of all kinds," Ms. Thida said, "Be it a coup by the military or a coup by the judiciary. "

Thida and the UDD use the phrase " judicial coup " so often, we forget that it is actually a criminal statement - because it is one that is intended to sow seeds of distrust in the judiciary, particularly the Constitutional Court - the highest court in the land. There can be no greater crime than this narrative that the UDD is actively engaged in. This is the kind of statement that will someday doubtless be read in court if the UDD should be stupid enough to put actions to their words. And it is the kind of statement that Yingluck should admonish publicly ( but doesn't ). Yingluck could put a stop to this dangerous nonsense. Right now. She could go up to a microphone and say that she and her party will unconditionally and unequivocally accept the Constitutional Court verdict - whatever it may be. Any leader of integrity in any part of the world would do that. Why isn't she doing that ? Why isn't she affirming her respect for the judiciary ? By not doing so only implies that she tacitly agrees with Thida. It is shameful and it shouldn't be tolerated.

LOL, you put so much effort into these attacks. The judiciary seeking to remove the elected government, are for the appointees of the former military dictatorship and its successor administration led by Abhisit. They are biased against the current government and have not hidden it.

O please GK they made themselves a caretaker government by dissolving the Parliament because of mass rallies opposed to their amnesty push. I believe you have selective memory. By the way tell us about the success of the rice scam which you waxed so eloquently about a few years ago.

[djjamie]

Looks like they have their ID card ready, in exchange for the 500 Baht daily

They're holding out their id cards to prove their Thai nationality, because your professional liars told people they were Burmese.

When the PTP suggest fake farmers then it is imperative that ID be provided.

Good to see that the 9 in front of the photo are Thai though not seeing the photos of their faces one could (I didn't say did ) suggest they stole those ID cards.

So in fact they may all be burmese. (I said may, not are)

I am starting to pick up on the UDD supporters traits on this forum of taking peoples quotes out of context so apologies for the brackets, but I am covering my assets!

Thanks Fab4 and dirtfarmer for helping me to evolve my posts to ensure less condescension and more positive rebuttals are forthcoming that don't take people out of context.

[djjamie]

And the UDD prize for most criminal threat to the judiciary this week goes to -

Thida

" We will close the doors to coups of all kinds," Ms. Thida said, "Be it a coup by the military or a coup by the judiciary. "

Thida and the UDD use the phrase " judicial coup " so often, we forget that it is actually a criminal statement - because it is one that is intended to sow seeds of distrust in the judiciary, particularly the Constitutional Court - the highest court in the land. There can be no greater crime than this narrative that the UDD is actively engaged in. This is the kind of statement that will someday doubtless be read in court if the UDD should be stupid enough to put actions to their words. And it is the kind of statement that Yingluck should admonish publicly ( but doesn't ). Yingluck could put a stop to this dangerous nonsense. Right now. She could go up to a microphone and say that she and her party will unconditionally and unequivocally accept the Constitutional Court verdict - whatever it may be. Any leader of integrity in any part of the world would do that. Why isn't she doing that ? Why isn't she affirming her respect for the judiciary ? By not doing so only implies that she tacitly agrees with Thida. It is shameful and it shouldn't be tolerated.

LOL, you put so much effort into these attacks. The judiciary seeking to remove the elected government, are for the appointees of the former military dictatorship and its successor administration led by Abhisit. They are biased against the current government and have not hidden it.

He puts so much efforts into attacks yet you put so little thought into yours.

If, on the off chance that yingluck is proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that she is guilty of negligence, I for one take no solace in any fact that you nor the PTP that you support will accept the ruling.

The EC removed the DEM governor from office pending any appeal he will lodge, but that is a DEM plot according to the PTP thus on extension a plot according to you as well. Not a non partisan EC, but a DEM plot. When the EC dictate and follow the rule of law against the PTP it is a partisan EC that is attacking the PTP and the poor PTP are victims of a grand conspiracy.

I think yingluck's murder charges are ridiculous because they are politically motivated. I won't blindly follow a narrative by a party because they suggest it.

Don't mirror the party you support, Think for yourself.

Support the rule of law instead of discrediting it. Criminals discredit the law. Very naughty boys and girls hate the rule of law because they can't get away with bad things if they follow it.

If yingluck is truly guilty then will you accept it. That is a rhetorical question. I already know the answer because yingluck has already stated what you should think.